PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Number7 on November 23, 2018, 07:20:11 AM
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Since nearly every new bloated government scam is the handiwork of progressives needing to purchase votes because their policies are too stupid to get them elected on their merits, I propose a fifty percent progressive tax.
Every self identifying progressive should have their personal income rates increased by fifty percent above the current scale to pay for the stupid shit they demand. That would allow the people demanding increased government welfare have to pay for it.
Abortions should become pay as you go and no tax payer assistance other than that provided by the progressive tax.
The never ending expansion of medicaid to cover every form of laziness known to Americans would be funded solely by forced 'contributions' from the very people demanding it.
Members of congress and the senate that vote for this shit would have their government salaries docked by DOUBLE the rate that everyone else pays, since they voted this stuff into existence.
Welfare and SSI for illegal aliens would come right out of the pockets of the hollyweird freaks who campaign for it. Rich liberal, big-mouthed, hypocrites would be required to open their homes and properties to house as many illegal aliens as would fit since they adore this invasion of America.
MMGW whores would be specifically targeted to absorb EVERY SINGLE regulation they push to promote their political agenda of repression and financial ruin.
Progressive news reporters would get to put their money where their communist mouths and minds only went before.
I would be happy to sit on the panel assigning the cost of all this largess to the people responsible for saddling us with it.
I suspect the number of self-identifying, virtue signaling, holier-than-thou, self-righteous, bigoted, progressives would drop by eighty to eighty-five percent in one year.
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Cue the outraged progressives who will blabber ceaselessly about military spending.
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We already have Medicare and SSI. Are you saying only tax Progressives? OH HELL YEAH!
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We already have Medicare and SSI. Are you saying only tax Progressives? OH HELL YEAH!
Only tax progressives for increased the costs due to illegals and other forms of parasites that take advantage of taxpayers, instead of dealing with their own shit. If progressives are going to give them money, it should come out of their own pockets in the form of a progressive tax.
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Only tax progressives for increased the costs due to illegals and other forms of parasites that take advantage of taxpayers, instead of dealing with their own shit. If progressives are going to give them money, it should come out of their own pockets in the form of a progressive tax.
Yea, they don't see it that way.
Ever notice that progressives like George Clooney, Michael Moore,Barbra Streisand, Taylor Swift, and the sports progressives on the NFL, and of course the ultra rich members of congress (pelosi,feinstein) don't believe THEY should pay more in taxes?
Socialism is for the people, not the socialist.
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The ballot should not be secret. Anyone voting Democrat should have to personally fund all their beloved social programs. Yep, I could go with that.
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The ballot should not be secret. Anyone voting Democrat should have to personally fund all their beloved social programs. Yep, I could go with that.
It should be an added line on every tax form. Once they declare their political agenda, the. They should be taxed to pay for it.
Parasitie liberals would stop spending money that belongs to other people the instant they had to pay for all that free shit.
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Democrat voter tax? I'm in. There should be a surcharge for these idiots. Let their money go to the Big Government SCAMS. Let's start with a Man Made Climate Change/Carbon Tax that only Democrats pay.
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While it appeals to the republican party bases desire for "fairness" such rhetoric is easily flipped and applied back so while an entertaining thought not very much use beyond feeling like you "owned the libs/repubs".
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While it appeals to the republican party bases desire for "fairness" such rhetoric is easily flipped and applied back so while an entertaining thought not very much use beyond feeling like you "owned the libs/repubs".
Is your brain hurting?
It is tongue in cheek.... the world is full of twits.
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While it appeals to the republican party bases desire for "fairness" such rhetoric is easily flipped and applied back so while an entertaining thought not very much use beyond feeling like you "owned the libs/repubs".
Can you translate that to English please?
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While it appeals to the republican party bases desire for "fairness" such rhetoric is easily flipped and applied back so while an entertaining thought not very much use beyond feeling like you "owned the libs/repubs".
It is just an appealing thought. I don't think anyone thinks it will ever happen.
And it would be an appealing thought to the Dems too if the situation were reversed. For instance, they should say if you are a Republican, then you should be taxed more for national defense.
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Can you translate that to English please?
A droll thought when applied to the "other side" but just as easily flipped and applied back so in the grand scheme of things kinda pointless.
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A droll thought when applied to the "other side" but just as easily flipped and applied back so in the grand scheme of things kinda pointless.
So all positions are equally valid. My position is that you're stupid and need to shut up. Good with that?
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A droll thought when applied to the "other side" but just as easily flipped and applied back so in the grand scheme of things kinda pointless.
You know what? I'm good with that. If I vote for a republican I'm good with paying for national defense and subsidizing offshore drilling, and all those who vote Democrat can pay for Medicare, social security, everyone's abortions, studying endangered species, free college education for everyone and government healthcare. Deal!
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You know what? I'm good with that. If I vote for a republican I'm good with paying for national defense and subsidizing offshore drilling, and all those who vote Democrat can pay for Medicare, social security, everyone's abortions, studying endangered species, free college education for everyone and government healthcare. Deal!
They can also pay a Man Made Climate Change, or "Carbon Tax". If they are so certian man, and not nature is causing the climate to change (as it always does naturally) then they can pay twice the price for gasoline, electricity, and all other forms of energy, and PRODUCTS derived from fossil fuels. Check what PLASTIC is made from? How much of that is used in society?
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I like this idea. If implemented, those paying for the unsustainable idiocy would soon stop or go bankrupt, while those paying for sensible programs would tick along nicely.
I just looked at the amount of federal income tax we paid in 2018.
Holy shit. And it’ll mostly be wasted on unsustainable idiocy.
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I like this idea. If implemented, those paying for the unsustainable idiocy would soon stop or go bankrupt, while those paying for sensible programs would tick along nicely.
I just looked at the amount of federal income tax we paid in 2018.
Holy shit. And it’ll mostly be wasted on unsustainable idiocy.
And that's probably less than you paid in 2017.
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And that's probably less than you paid in 2017.
It doesn't matter how much you paid, it wasn't enough to satisfy satisfy the communists (they call themselves democrats now).
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It doesn't matter how much you paid, it wasn't enough to satisfy satisfy the communists (they call themselves democrats now).
That's right, Pelosi et al are openly campaigning on reverting the Trump tax cuts. I have never been able to get a liberal to give me a number of what percent tax is too much. They default to "tax the rich" and I truly believe they'd tax them 99%, or to the point everyone has the same equalized income (except politicians and Hollywood elite of course, and the CEOs they're in bed with.)
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That's right, Pelosi et al are openly campaigning on reverting the Trump tax cuts. I have never been able to get a liberal to give me a number of what percent tax is too much. They default to "tax the rich" and I truly believe they'd tax them 99%, or to the point everyone has the same equalized income (except politicians and Hollywood elite of course, and the CEOs they're in bed with.)
Well Bernie was OK with 90%.
But as you’re all aware, there is no such thing as a free lunch. Every dollar in government benefits given for “free” is a dollar taken from the private sector, and to give you just a preview of how expensive socialism would be, just look at the tax rate that Bernie is proposing. According to the Daily Wire, “the Vermont Democrat backs a top tax rate of 90%. You read that right — 90%.”
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/bernie-sanders-90-percent-tax/
That genius Cortez wants to raise the marginal rate to 70% for starters. So 70% - 90% seems to be the Democrat sweet spot for Income Taxes.
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congress members don't pay federal income tax on their salaries, and most of their ill gotten gains are never reported, so they already know that the tax demands they make will not affect them. After all, they're special and special people don't have to deal with things like the little people.
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congress members don't pay federal income tax on their salaries, and most of their ill gotten gains are never reported, so they already know that the tax demands they make will not affect them. After all, they're special and special people don't have to deal with things like the little people.
They've become Royalty. Term limits would be a good start. We have them for Presidents, and Governors, why not for legislators?
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Well Bernie was OK with 90%.
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/bernie-sanders-90-percent-tax/
That genius Cortez wants to raise the marginal rate to 70% for starters. So 70% - 90% seems to be the Democrat sweet spot for Income Taxes.
I was talking about the liberals here on the boards and about across the board not just top rates and total tax burden not just overt income tax. Today the average person works half the year for the government (at least) and no liberal on these boards has ever stated how much more of the year would be too much to turn the fruits of our labor over to the government.
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I was talking about the liberals here on the boards and about across the board not just top rates and total tax burden not just overt income tax. Today the average person works half the year for the government (at least) and no liberal on these boards has ever stated how much more of the year would be too much to turn the fruits of our labor over to the government.
Yes, Total Tax Burden when you add up:
Fed Income Tax
State Income Tax
Local Income Tax
Real Estate Taxes
Property Taxes
Sales Taxes
Gasoline, and other Energy Taxes
Occupational Privilege Tax
Utility Taxes, and Fees
Tolls, and other government fees that should be covered by taxes, etc.
It is around 50% of my income. Ridiculous.
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In most states, when an Auto is bought new, it is taxed. Then when it’s sold used, it is taxed. Everytime it’s sold, it is taxed again.
Nice racket.
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Yep and when you consider the corporate taxes, fuel taxes on transporting everything you buy, and all that is passed on to you the consumer, it's really much higher than 50%.
And then there is the cost of regulation a lot of which is intangible. Example and I am dead serious about this. Water flow restrictions.
Low flow shower makes me stay in the shower longer to rinse off the soap and shampoo. That eats into my productive time or my unproductive leisure, either way it's my life.
Water saving and energy saving clothes washing machines cause allergies and skin rashes due to incomplete rinsing and failure to kill mites that live in all our bedding.
Low flow sinks take forever to fill my pot, stealing my life's time.
And so on.
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So all positions are equally valid. My position is that you're stupid and need to shut up. Good with that?
If both positions are running the same thought to the same conclusion then they would be equally valid.
Subjective policy applied via whims of the policy creator works both ways so any position taken using the OP's "Tax x group for what they use/want" formula would be valid.
So not all positions are equally valid but all positions derived from the same ruleset would logically have to be.
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If both positions are running the same thought to the same conclusion then they would be equally valid.
Subjective policy applied via whims of the policy creator works both ways so any position taken using the OP's "Tax x group for what they use/want" formula would be valid.
So not all positions are equally valid but all positions derived from the same ruleset would logically have to be.
No, only if the derivation is logical. Say the rule set is math and one position is two plus two equals four and another position is two plus two equals five. One of those positions is wrong because the rule set was not correctly followed. People do this all the time on both sides but I think liberals do it much more. They'll say to your face the sky is purple when you're both standing under a clear blue sky. I see this on MSM all the time.
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Let's not forget my fucking Social Security is taxed.
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Let's not forget my fucking Social Security is taxed.
Yeah what is with that??? Your social security IS a tax you already paid!! You're just getting it back, that was supposed to be the theory, right? Enforced savings for retirement?
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When Far Left Democrat Governor Martin O'Malley was in office as Governor of Maryland he got a "Rain Tax" passed using the reason the runoff into the Chesapeake Bay was polluting it. So you pay the tax in proportion to your property size. More property, more rain, more runoff, more TAX. Creative, huh?
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Keep in mind we keep reelecting these career politicians, over and over. And it's they that keep finding more creative ways to tax everyone, and with no checks on their spending.
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When Far Left Democrat Governor Martin O'Malley was in office as Governor of Maryland he got a "Rain Tax" passed using the reason the runoff into the Chesapeake Bay was polluting it. So you pay the tax in proportion to your property size. More property, more rain, more runoff, more TAX. Creative, huh?
On top of which, Democrat are all over the place with regards to how to tax you for your impact to the planet. The claim that subsidence (sinking of land) is never a factor in coastal flooding yet it is clearly a factor on Tangier Island (Chesapeake Bay) because the associated mainland is not being flooding. Clearly the main land is sucking ground water out from under Tangeoer island and the ground itself is sinking. Yet to the leftists, this is coastal flooding caused by global warming, even when subsidence is clearly indicated.
Their science is so diversely flowed that it is not at all funny.
They seem to just not have the ability to consider alternative causes.
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congress members don't pay federal income tax on their salaries, and most of their ill gotten gains are never reported, so they already know that the tax demands they make will not affect them. After all, they're special and special people don't have to deal with things like the little people.
That’s not true. Trust me, I despise politicians, but they do pay tax on their salaries. They probably scam the fuck out of per firms and tax free perks however.
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That’s not true. Trust me, I despise politicians, but they do pay tax on their salaries. They probably scam the fuck out of per firms and tax free perks however.
They don’t pay SS tax IIRC.
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They don’t pay SS tax IIRC.
And they exempt themselves from things they impose on us.
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And they exempt themselves from things they impose on us.
They have primo healthcare, so when they passed Obamacare it didn't effect them, nor their families.
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If you read the preambles to most bills, they always exempt themselves.
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They don’t pay SS tax IIRC.
They do pay SS &Medicare, since the 1980s under Reagan.