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Title: Wine
Post by: Mase on January 27, 2016, 09:04:11 PM
There seems to be some believable data that a glass or two of wine daily lengthens lifespan and prevents heart disease.  Does this apply to white wine, or only to red wine?
Title: Re: Wine
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on January 27, 2016, 10:30:37 PM
There seems to be some believable data that a glass or two of wine daily lengthens lifespan and prevents heart disease.  Does this apply to white wine, or only to red wine?

The salient use of a glass of wine is probably:

1) being able to stop rushing around and take the time to sit down and enjoy a glass of wine.

2) being able to stop rushing around and enjoy the depressant nature of a glass of wine, that is, taking advantage of the glass wine as a relaxant.

So, I doubt it really matters if it's red wine or white wine.

But that's just my layman's opinion.



Title: Re: Wine
Post by: Mase on January 27, 2016, 10:49:47 PM
The salient use of a glass of wine is probably:

1) being able to stop rushing around and take the time to sit down and enjoy a glass of wine.

2) being able to stop rushing around and enjoy the depressant nature of a glass of wine, that is, taking advantage of the glass wine as a relaxant.

So, I doubt it really matters if it's red wine or white wine.

But that's just my layman's opinion.

If that was true, it would seem to indicate a beer or a shot would be equally effective, but that does not seem to be the case.  There seems to be some property of grapes or wine that is different.  Possibly related to antioxidents.

One Source (http://www.foodandwine.com/articles/8-health-benefits-of-drinking-wine)
Title: Re: Wine
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on January 28, 2016, 05:35:18 AM
If that was true, it would seem to indicate a beer or a shot would be equally effective, but that does not seem to be the case.  There seems to be some property of grapes or wine that is different.  Possibly related to antioxidents.

One Source (http://www.foodandwine.com/articles/8-health-benefits-of-drinking-wine)

I would suspect that a lot more people have 1 glass of wine than have just 1 shot or just 1 beer.
Title: Re: Wine
Post by: Johnh on January 28, 2016, 02:38:41 PM
I would suspect that a lot more people have 1 glass of wine than have just 1 shot or just 1 beer.
I have a lot more than 1 shot of liquor, after I have a lot more than 1 glass of wine.  So I should live forever.

But to answer the original question, it applies only to red wine.
Title: Re: Wine
Post by: PaulS on January 28, 2016, 02:41:21 PM
Red wine,  my doc told me to drink a glass a day, helps raise good cholesterol.  Of course, those studies vary almost monthly, but it was one prescription I like,  although a  glass a day is too much for me, more like two glasses every few weeks. 
Title: Re: Wine
Post by: CharlieTango on January 28, 2016, 02:55:15 PM
There seems to be some believable data that a glass or two of wine daily lengthens lifespan and prevents heart disease.  Does this apply to white wine, or only to red wine?

I say its a matter of 'correlation does not mean causation'.  I see it more of an indicator of lifestyle. Take the french, they tend to drink red wine in moderation true, but look deeper, they are also pretty lean as a society because they are 'fat burners'.  They may have that croissant but probably as a treat not every morning and when they due they get a morning dose of healthy fat from the grass fed butter they use.

Foods are not fat burners yet fat burning is a valid concept.  Certain foods lead to fat burning like coconut due to the MCTs quickly resulting in fat (ketone bodies) in your blood and in this state (ketosis) you become the fat burner.

In current times most people burn glucose for energy and because they respond to the hunger calls they remain glucose burners. We are far better off burning fat but if you blood sugar is always elevated it never happens. Most people today are never in ketosis and they loose the adaptation to burning fat.

Prior to civilization humans were primarily fat burners and when an opportunity arose they would easily switch to burning glucose and when that opportunity ended they would easily go back to burning fat.

2 glasses of red wine won't knock me out of ketosis but anything grain base will like beer of scotch.

Red wine in moderation is more of a lifestyle indicator than the cause for less heart disease, cancer and obesity. Carbs cause the inflammation that leads to these things.