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Title: Why masks?
Post by: Dweyant on March 11, 2021, 11:52:31 AM
Why the hell are we still telling vaccinated people to wear a mask?

94% reduction in asymptomatic transfer after vaccination. 

That should be it.  No more masks once you have been vaccinated!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-pfizer-israel/pfizer-biontech-say-covid-19-vaccine-likely-to-prevent-asymptomatic-infection-idUSKBN2B31IJ

-Dan
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Number7 on March 11, 2021, 11:55:26 AM
Remember, liberals are stupid sheep and love to be told what to think, do and say.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Lucifer on March 11, 2021, 12:02:08 PM
Mask are nothing more than virtue signaling.   They show that the individual is compliant with the wishes of their master.

This has been one of the biggest hoaxes ever perpetuated.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 11, 2021, 12:26:35 PM
Had breakfast this morning with a couple of guys from church. One of them has been in deep isolation during the last year. He told me this morning that his wife would go do the grocery shopping and then come home. He would empty the car, unpack and wipe down everything she bought. Meanwhile she would go, take her clothes off, put them in the washer and then take a bath.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 11, 2021, 12:32:28 PM
Why the hell are we still telling vaccinated people to wear a mask?

94% reduction in asymptomatic transfer after vaccination. 

That should be it.  No more masks once you have been vaccinated!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-pfizer-israel/pfizer-biontech-say-covid-19-vaccine-likely-to-prevent-asymptomatic-infection-idUSKBN2B31IJ

-Dan

first, I hope folks no that I'm no chicken little mask zombie. 

Initial tests of the vaccines were about prevent infection.  Initial tests did not have much investigation into transmission to others.  So, don't know means don't know.

Having said that, it looks like people are learning that vaccinated people are not able to spread the virus.  Note that the CDC now says that groups of vaccinated people don't need to wear masks.  So that is progress.

edit:  but the chicklen littles will not willingly give up.

(tyops tosyo^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Htypos)
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Steingar on March 11, 2021, 12:34:10 PM
Because vaccinated people can still be infected and pass on the virus. It's already happened.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: nddons on March 11, 2021, 12:41:24 PM
Mask are nothing more than virtue signaling.   They show that the individual is compliant with the wishes of their master.

This has been one of the biggest hoaxes ever perpetuated.
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Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: bflynn on March 11, 2021, 12:49:24 PM
94% reduction in asymptomatic transfer after vaccination. 

You're looking at it wrong.  There's a 6% chance of transmission after vaccination. 

You could be one of the tiny number still spreading the virus.  How Dare You?!  Do not resist your Leftist overlords!
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: jb1842 on March 11, 2021, 12:49:35 PM
Because vaccinated people can still be infected and pass on the virus. It's already happened.

Where's your proof?
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Jim Logajan on March 11, 2021, 01:12:58 PM
Because vaccinated people can still be infected and pass on the virus. It's already happened.

At least one person is known to have died from a meteorite strike.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Dweyant on March 11, 2021, 01:36:10 PM
Because vaccinated people can still be infected and pass on the virus. It's already happened.

I take it you didn't read the article?

-Dan
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Little Joe on March 11, 2021, 01:53:40 PM
Because vaccinated people can still be infected and pass on the virus. It's already happened.
How many times has that actually been verified to have happened?  As Jim said, someone has died from a meteorite strike.  How much risk should we actively avoid?  When you answer that, remember that you are a pilot.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 11, 2021, 01:56:03 PM
and how many people die from influenza every single year?

Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Lucifer on March 11, 2021, 01:58:32 PM
and how many people die from influenza every single year?

But...but...This is COVID!!!

 It's so damn deadly you only have a 99.95% chance of survival!!!!!
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Number7 on March 11, 2021, 02:09:21 PM
Because vaccinated people can still be infected and pass on the virus. It's already happened.

Because mikey is a pussy and can't stand living in a world where others are allowed to choose not to be pathetic pussies like him.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Anthony on March 11, 2021, 02:25:00 PM
Mask are nothing more than virtue signaling.   They show that the individual is compliant with the wishes of their master.

This has been one of the biggest hoaxes ever perpetuated.

My thoughts exactly.   Had one woman come up to me at work and proudly show me she was wearing two masks.   Had another woman show me her "I was vaccinated " button.   You'd have thought she just cured cancer.  Why is it always women?
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 11, 2021, 02:29:45 PM
My thoughts exactly.   Had one woman come up to me at work and proudly show me she was wearing two masks.   Had another woman show me her "I was vaccinated " button.   You'd have thought she just cured cancer.  Why is it always women?

It isn’t always women.  A number of (presumably male) people on POA are talking about having been shot
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: nddons on March 11, 2021, 02:31:53 PM
My thoughts exactly.   Had one woman come up to me at work and proudly show me she was wearing two masks.   Had another woman show me her "I was vaccinated " button.   You'd have thought she just cured cancer.  Why is it always women?
We had a beautiful few days in the 60s this week. On Tuesday I took a 20 minute walk in the business park where we have an office. A woman in her 30s in our office was also taking a walk.  Neither of us had masks, but when we were about to pass in opposite directions on the sidewalk, she stepped 3 feet into the grass as we passed. Outdoors. Fresh air. And she has several germ-carrying kids in her home. Madness. Covidiot.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: nddons on March 11, 2021, 02:34:31 PM
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Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: bflynn on March 11, 2021, 02:53:56 PM
My thoughts exactly.   Had one woman come up to me at work and proudly show me she was wearing two masks.   Had another woman show me her "I was vaccinated " button.   You'd have thought she just cured cancer.  Why is it always women?

It isn’t always women.  A number of (presumably male) people on POA are talking about having been shot

Yes, but we can't assume their gender.  Shame on you both.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Number7 on March 11, 2021, 07:16:19 PM
Why is it always women?

Women and pussies....
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Steingar on March 12, 2021, 06:50:30 AM
Normally something on the order of 30 to 40 thousand people died flu yearly.  This year that number went way, way down.  Masks are actually a very good thing.  I'll probably be wearing them in public from now on.  Flu is no joke.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Rush on March 12, 2021, 06:56:00 AM
Normally something on the order of 30 to 40 thousand people died flu yearly.  This year that number went way, way down.  Masks are actually a very good thing.  I'll probably be wearing them in public from now on.  Flu is no joke.

Or we did have that many flu deaths and they also happened to have the covid virus so were counted as covid deaths.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Anthony on March 12, 2021, 07:01:53 AM
Normally something on the order of 30 to 40 thousand people died flu yearly.  This year that number went way, way down.  Masks are actually a very good thing.  I'll probably be wearing them in public from now on.  Flu is no joke.

Then stop flying, riding a motorcycle, driving a car, walking in public.....

Because you are WAY MORE AT RISK than from the Flu or COVID.

 ::)   ::)   ::)
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Number7 on March 12, 2021, 08:09:23 AM
Normally something on the order of 30 to 40 thousand people died flu yearly.  This year that number went way, way down.  Masks are actually a very good thing.  I'll probably be wearing them in public from now on.  Flu is no joke.

And here we have a perfect example of a pussy pretending to be a man.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Jim Logajan on March 12, 2021, 09:13:54 AM
Normally something on the order of 30 to 40 thousand people died flu yearly.  This year that number went way, way down.  Masks are actually a very good thing.  I'll probably be wearing them in public from now on.  Flu is no joke.

There is actually a better theory about why flu is down: when a respiratory virus establishes itself it tends to exclude other viruses from taking hold. The exact reason(s) are not known. Here is a story from December 2019 (pre-Covid-19 study) that discusses why colds and flu rarely strike a person at the same time:

https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20191217/why-colds-and-flu-rarely-strike-at-same-time (https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20191217/why-colds-and-flu-rarely-strike-at-same-time)

Also note that flu was down even in places with no mask mandates, so any theory has to take that into account.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Username on March 12, 2021, 09:18:20 AM
Yay!  COVID prevents the flu!
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Lucifer on March 12, 2021, 04:10:42 PM
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Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 12, 2021, 05:29:19 PM
New normal one more time
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Lucifer on March 12, 2021, 05:30:06 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/cxAAQk3.jpg)
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Anthony on March 13, 2021, 06:38:57 AM
We've become largely a world afraid of our own shadows.   Lucifer is right.   THIS IS NOT A PANDEMIC!
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Rush on March 13, 2021, 06:51:21 AM
We've become largely a world afraid of our own shadows.   Lucifer is right.   THIS IS NOT A PANDEMIC!

With Americans cowering in fear and giving up their freedom because of a virus with a 99.8% survival rate, there is no way in hell they’ll fight for liberty from the illegitimate fascist communist dictatorship that just took over.

We are done.  R.I.P. land of the free.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Anthony on March 13, 2021, 07:03:51 AM
With Americans cowering in fear and giving up their freedom because of a virus with a 99.8% survival rate, there is no way in hell they’ll fight for liberty from the illegitimate fascist communist dictatorship that just took over.

We are done.  R.I.P. land of the free.

Totally agree.  The pussification of America is complete.  That's why they wanted to feminize society.  It worked. 
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Lucifer on March 13, 2021, 07:07:34 AM
With Americans cowering in fear and giving up their freedom because of a virus with a 99.8% survival rate, there is no way in hell they’ll fight for liberty from the illegitimate fascist communist dictatorship that just took over.

We are done.  R.I.P. land of the free.

 Part of the country is done.  Namely the blue shitholes.   They are getting a temporary reprieve (very temporary) from Granny Boxwine's treasury raid, but that will be squandered very quickly.   

 The free states will only go so far with this.   One of two things will happen, either an Article V convention of the States is called, or the free states will begin secession.   I'm still placing my bets on secession.  What's left of the "USA" will be the blue shitholes and will become much like Venezuela.   

 Election fraud has dire consequences.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Rush on March 13, 2021, 07:56:32 AM
Part of the country is done.  Namely the blue shitholes.   They are getting a temporary reprieve (very temporary) from Granny Boxwine's treasury raid, but that will be squandered very quickly.   

 The free states will only go so far with this.   One of two things will happen, either an Article V convention of the States is called, or the free states will begin secession.   I'm still placing my bets on secession.  What's left of the "USA" will be the blue shitholes and will become much like Venezuela.   

 Election fraud has dire consequences.

I sure hope you are right.

I’m trying to convince my family back East to move to Texas. So far two of them are very interested, at least after mom dies. They’re sick of living in a blue city with “Biden” signs in all the yards.  Can you imagine anything more shameful than advertising your support of that demented bastard?
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Lucifer on March 13, 2021, 08:15:53 AM
I sure hope you are right.

I’m trying to convince my family back East to move to Texas. So far two of them are very interested, at least after mom dies. They’re sick of living in a blue city with “Biden” signs in all the yards.  Can you imagine anything more shameful than advertising your support of that demented bastard?

 The breakup is coming, unless something drastic happens in the next year or so.   This is not sustainable, and the free states know it.  This is why secession legislation was began in the Texas legislature and a few other free states are looking into it.   Even out west there are campaigns gathering to break up California and parts of Oregon and Washington.

 The DCP is trying to create the downfall of the economy, and true to their Marxist core, they envision "rebuilding" into their utopia dream.  And these fools are following the Venezuela model.

 Xiden is nothing but a hollow shell of a man, he really doesn't know what's going on.  It's the people in the shadows that should have us worried.  Mark my word, BHO is involved.

 If we had a functioning GOP much of this could be stopped, but they are now the Uniparty inside the beltway.  Hopefully the free states once secession begins will put a permanent stop to groups like the DCP, ANTIFA and BLM.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Anthony on March 13, 2021, 08:41:29 AM
The breakup is coming, unless something drastic happens in the next year or so.   This is not sustainable, and the free states know it.  This is why secession legislation was began in the Texas legislature and a few other free states are looking into it.   Even out west there are campaigns gathering to break up California and parts of Oregon and Washington.

 The DCP is trying to create the downfall of the economy, and true to their Marxist core, they envision "rebuilding" into their utopia dream.  And these fools are following the Venezuela model.

 Xiden is nothing but a hollow shell of a man, he really doesn't know what's going on.  It's the people in the shadows that should have us worried.  Mark my word, BHO is involved.

 If we had a functioning GOP much of this could be stopped, but they are now the Uniparty inside the beltway.  Hopefully the free states once secession begins will put a permanent stop to groups like the DCP, ANTIFA and BLM.

I am pessimistic about any secession and break up because most people don't want their lives disrupted.  They've become used to their affluent lifestyle.  They've become lazy and complacent.  Willing to give up rights, freedoms and liberty for COMFORT.  It may be temporary comfort.  The only thing that causes change is DISCOMFORT.  Until that happens, then nothing changes. 
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: nddons on March 13, 2021, 08:43:22 AM
New normal one more time
Always a troublemaker! 
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Lucifer on March 13, 2021, 09:37:09 AM
I am pessimistic about any secession and break up because most people don't want their lives disrupted.  They've become used to their affluent lifestyle.  They've become lazy and complacent.  Willing to give up rights, freedoms and liberty for COMFORT.  It may be temporary comfort.  The only thing that causes change is DISCOMFORT.  Until that happens, then nothing changes.

That discomfort is coming, even for the affluent.  When huge blocks of their wealth disappear overnight, the attitudes will change.

The next shoe to drop is the dollar to be dropped as the world reserve currency.   China wants their currency to take that role.  And the DCP along with the Xiden regime are accelerating that. 
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 13, 2021, 10:40:19 AM
The breakup is coming, unless something drastic happens in the next year or so.   

Our enemies would love to see the USA break into two (or more) countries...
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Lucifer on March 13, 2021, 10:54:18 AM
Our enemies would love to see the USA break into two (or more) countries...

Absolutely.  China tops that list.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Anthony on March 13, 2021, 10:58:46 AM
Our enemies would love to see the USA break into two (or more) countries...

Our internal enemies, perhaps foreign influenced and/or controlled are far more dangerous.  We could always develop a NATO like alliance with Commie Amerika and Canada.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Username on March 13, 2021, 11:30:28 AM
We are still the "United States".  Where the States should take the lead in providing for their citizens vs. the Federal Government.  Can't the states just say "screw you" to the Federals and do their own thing without leaving the union?  OK, no more federal highway funds, but also no gas taxes going to the federals.  I don't know how this would work in reality, but maybe some middle ground besides submitting to federal rule and going totally on your own?  A state saying that they are OK with the federals doing what the Constitution says (defense, etc.) but we'll do everything else.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Number7 on March 13, 2021, 11:40:21 AM
Liberals can't live in a world where conformity is not mandatory and enforced at the point of a gun,

Free speech is a threat to control, so free speech has been redefined as hate and used to bludgeon people into silence.

Gun ownership is a threat to the pussy left and their masters, so the second amendment has become a greater enemy than personal success.

Now voting for the candidate of your choice has become the new definition of terrorist.

Liberals are the enemy of everything America stands for. Treating them as anything hut the enemy is what got us here.

Fuck all you fucking commie democrats.

Fuck you straight to hell, which is where you're headed anyhow.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Username on March 13, 2021, 12:27:35 PM
Liberals are the enemy of everything America stands for. Treating them as anything hut the enemy is what got us here.

Fuck all you fucking commie democrats.

Fuck you straight to hell, which is where you're headed anyhow.
And in 20 years, after the great USSA Communist collapse the surviving liberals will say, "Sure, socialism / communism didn't work this time, but next time we'll do it right!"
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 13, 2021, 03:33:13 PM
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 13, 2021, 04:38:17 PM
" it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government"

bears repeating

Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: elwood blues on March 13, 2021, 05:32:05 PM
We are still the "United States".  Where the States should take the lead in providing for their citizens vs. the Federal Government.  Can't the states just say "screw you" to the Federals and do their own thing without leaving the union?

A state saying that they are OK with the federals doing what the Constitution says (defense, etc.) but we'll do everything else.

You mean like we used to do?


OK, no more federal highway funds, but also no gas taxes going to the federals.

We'll come out ahead.


I don't know how this would work in reality...,

It will work just fine.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Lucifer on March 17, 2021, 03:23:01 PM
Here's what the elites think about mask

https://twitter.com/NeilWMcCabe2/status/1372259756199571459
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 17, 2021, 04:02:57 PM
Here's what the elites think about mask

https://twitter.com/NeilWMcCabe2/status/1372259756199571459

I'm sure that picture was from before covid-19 hit our country.

I'm sure of it

Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Lucifer on March 17, 2021, 08:43:34 PM
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Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Lucifer on March 18, 2021, 04:34:16 AM
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Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 18, 2021, 06:01:05 AM
Today a local newspaper has that picture of live-shot on the front page.  Of course it wasn't the Boston Globe (where nothing negative about liberals is ever mentioned)

Of course live-shot denies it...

Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 18, 2021, 06:15:41 AM
aaaaaaand, the POA thread about unruly passengers gets locked.

LOL

https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/community/threads/crackdown-on-unruly-or-unmasked-passengers.131241/

Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Number7 on March 18, 2021, 06:24:12 AM
POA

Pussies Obsessively Annoying
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Anthony on March 18, 2021, 06:32:16 AM
God, POA has become a Far Left Progressive Socialist Workers Paradise.  Are those guys really pilots???  Glad I am no longer a participant there.  Embarrassing. 
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Steingar on March 18, 2021, 07:19:50 AM
The amount of vitriol here over masks is amusing.  Naught but a small scrap of cloth, and you guys act like it's a ball and chain.  Surprised you don't raise a stink about having to wear pants.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Anthony on March 18, 2021, 07:24:20 AM
The amount of vitriol here over masks is amusing.  Naught but a small scrap of cloth, and you guys act like it's a ball and chain.  Surprised you don't raise a stink about having to wear pants.

It's not just a mask which is just largely a symbol of Government over reach and oppression, but it is the continued shuttering of small businesses, now for OVER A YEAR that is a major issue.  You are insulated from it, but I have friends and relatives that have lost EVERYTHING they worked their entire lives to build.  Due to ARBITRARY Government shut downs. 

What about those people and their lives?  These people are NOT rich, but now they may be poor all due to government over reach.  ILLEGAL government over reach.

I challenge you to RESPOND, but you won't.   ::)
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Username on March 18, 2021, 07:32:38 AM
The amount of vitriol here over masks is amusing.  Naught but a small scrap of cloth, and you guys act like it's a ball and chain.  Surprised you don't raise a stink about having to wear pants.
It's just a small yellow Star of David.  Just a scrap of cloth.  You guys act like it's a ball and chain.  Now be quiet and get in the cattle car.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Lucifer on March 18, 2021, 07:38:35 AM
The amount of vitriol here over masks is amusing.  Naught but a small scrap of cloth, and you guys act like it's a ball and chain.  Surprised you don't raise a stink about having to wear pants.

 You keep trying to make that inane analogy, but it doesn't work.

 You are welcome to worship Pope Tony and your Branch Covidians, just don't try to force others to do so.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 18, 2021, 08:13:56 AM
The amount of vitriol here over masks is amusing.  Naught but a small scrap of cloth, and you guys act like it's a ball and chain.  Surprised you don't raise a stink about having to wear pants.

The pushback on masks exists on POA as well... except we aren't allowed to discuss it.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on March 18, 2021, 09:00:31 AM
It's just a small yellow Star of David.  Just a scrap of cloth.  You guys act like it's a ball and chain.  Now be quiet and get in the cattle car.

It’s just a red cap that says “Make America Great Again” on it. Harmless enough. So a few people wearing them get attacked and beaten. No biggie.

Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Number7 on March 18, 2021, 09:37:24 AM
The amount of vitriol here over masks is amusing.  Naught but a small scrap of cloth, and you guys act like it's a ball and chain.  Surprised you don't raise a stink about having to wear pants.

Those burkas are nothing but strips of cloth and wearing them makes the repressed and not so repressed homosexual Muslims so much more comfortable I just don't understand why they are not mandatory or all women...

Geee.... those voter ID cards are just piece of paper. Why are you fucking asshole liberals so obsessed with eradicating them?


Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Lucifer on March 18, 2021, 02:28:07 PM
https://dailycaller.com/2021/03/18/sen-rand-paul-dr-fauci-masks-after-vaccination/

‘You Parade Around In Two Masks For Show’: Sen. Rand Paul Questions Dr. Fauci On Wearing Masks After Vaccination

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Republican Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul questioned Dr. Anthony Fauci on the purpose of wearing a face mask after receiving the coronavirus vaccine.

Paul claimed during a Thursday hearing that wearing a mask — or even two masks — after vaccination amounted to little more than “theater,” but Fauci disagreed.

Paul began by asking Fauci about “reinfection, hospitalization and death after either natural infection or the vaccine,” saying that there was no data to suggest there were significant numbers to report.

“In fact, I don’t think we have a hospitalization in the United States after the two-week period after the second vaccination. We don’t have a death in the United States,” Paul continued.

“You’re not hearing what I’m saying about variants,” Fauci protested. “We’re talking about wild type versus variants.”

“What proof is there that there is significant reinfections with hospitalizations and death from the variants? None in our country. Zero,” Paul replied.


Fauci argued that over time, variants could become prevalent enough to cause problems and that the only reason post-vaccination infections had not been higher was the fact that had not happened yet.

“You’re making you’re policy based on conjecture — that we’re going to get variants, so you want people to wear masks for another couple years,” Paul pushed back. “You’ve been vaccinated and you parade around in two masks for show.”

Fauci argued that was not the case, but Paul continued: “You can’t get it again. There is almost — there is virtually zero percent chance you’re gonna get it, yet you are telling people who have had the vaccine, who have immunity, you’re defying everything about immunity by telling people to wear masks who’ve been vaccinated.”

“You want to get rid of vaccine hesitancy?” Paul asked. “Tell them they can quit wearing their mask after they get the vaccine. You want people to get the vaccine? Give them a reward instead of telling them that the nanny state is going to be there for three more years and you gotta wear a mask forever. People don’t want to hear it and there’s no science behind it.”

“Let me state for the record that masks are not theater, masks are protective —” Fauci argued, but Paul cut him off again.

“If you have immunity, they are theater. If you already have immunity, you’re wearing a mask to give comfort to others. You’re not wearing a mask because of any science,” Paul said.

“I totally disagree with you,” Fauci replied, going on to explain that vaccinations might only effectively prevent the spread of one variant, leaving those who had been vaccinated able to contract and spread other variants.

Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Lucifer on March 18, 2021, 02:31:58 PM
https://thefederalist.com/2021/03/18/oregon-health-officials-propose-making-mask-mandates-permanent/

Oregon Health Officials Propose Making Mask Mandates Permanent

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Oregon state health officials unveiled a new proposal in January which seeks to make temporary mask mandates permanent.

The current order, passed in November by the state’s workplace safety department, which requires all employers to implement state-imposed guidelines for social distancing and mask compliance, is set to expire on May 4. Oregon health bureaucrats are now seeking to make the rules permanent.

“Although the rule must be adopted as a permanent rule, its purpose is to address the COVID-19 pandemic,” the proposal reads. “Oregon [Occupational Safety and Health] intends to repeal the rule when it is no longer necessary to address the pandemic.”

No threshold for what constitutes when the mandate is “no longer necessary” however, is offered in the proposal.

New COVID cases in Oregon meanwhile, are averaging less than half what they were when the temporary order came into effect last fall. The state saw 769 new cases with a seven-day average of 603 positive tests the day to order was announced on Nov. 6 as they began to rise going into the Thanksgiving holiday.

On Wednesday however, the state say 264 new cases with a seven-day average of 284.

Oregon Health Authority Director Patrick Allen announced Wednesday all adult residents will be eligible for the vaccine by May 1, three days before the existing mask mandate is set to expire.

“In Oregon, every single adult will be eligible for a vaccine on May 1 – which does not mean they will get a vaccine on May 1, but they will be eligible,” Allen told a local paper.

The state mask mandates however, which are particularly stringent, are becoming a progressively burdensome issue for a COVID-fatigued public one year into the pandemic.

Even outdoor sports teams under state regulations are mandated to wear facial coverings where the arbitrary measure of six-feet distancing cannot be guaranteed.

On Wednesday, the Register-Guard, a local northwestern newspaper reported on several cross-country teams meeting on their own in the absence of large invitationals to keep the season alive and their students engaged. The outdoor mask requirements however, have caused students to struggle despite their happiness to compete.

“It’s tragic to watch,” coach Steve Richards told the paper. “It’s hard as a coach to send your kids out there. There’s been a lot of theorizing about the health risks between wearing a mask and not wearing one, and I can’t speak to those. I just know the looks on their faces. They’re running their guts out.”

Others believe the masks themselves have become a higher safety hazard than the comparatively low risk of viral transmission among high school teenagers outdoors.

The paper reported:

The state has mandated masks be worn during all practices and competitions for high school sports. It’s a rule many coaches and runners are unhappy with, saying it’s difficult to competitively run 5,000 meters while masks. They also worry it could be dangerous.

‘I have two kids with asthma,’ Junction City coach Shannon McAdams said. ‘Running a 5K is hard enough. Running with a mask on could be detrimental.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: nddons on March 18, 2021, 03:44:28 PM
https://dailycaller.com/2021/03/18/sen-rand-paul-dr-fauci-masks-after-vaccination/

‘You Parade Around In Two Masks For Show’: Sen. Rand Paul Questions Dr. Fauci On Wearing Masks After Vaccination
You go DOCTOR Rand Paul!!
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Anthony on March 18, 2021, 03:54:05 PM
You go DOCTOR Rand Paul!!

I trust Rand Paul.   NOT Fauci.  Paul is a practicing eye surgeon.   Fauci is a Democrat hack, almost lifelong bureaucrat.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: nddons on March 18, 2021, 03:56:46 PM
https://thefederalist.com/2021/03/18/oregon-health-officials-propose-making-mask-mandates-permanent/

Oregon Health Officials Propose Making Mask Mandates Permanent
So much for governing with the authority of the governed.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 18, 2021, 04:22:25 PM
So much for governing with the authority of the governed.

but trust them that they don't intend to make these mandates permanent.

the ever popular "trust me"

do I need to repeat my story about the definition of "trust me"?

Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Rush on March 18, 2021, 05:17:20 PM
Fauci sounds almost as demented as Fake president Biden.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Lucifer on March 18, 2021, 05:31:02 PM
Fauci sounds almost as demented as Fake president Biden.

 Difference is Fauci is an outright fraud.   He's another idiot that has a parchment hanging on his wall that he believes makes him superior. 

 Pope Tony has spent his entire career as a mindless bureaucrat, and now is on a power trip.
Title: Re: Why masks?
Post by: Anthony on March 18, 2021, 07:57:47 PM
Difference is Fauci is an outright fraud.   He's another idiot that has a parchment hanging on his wall that he believes makes him superior. 

 Pope Tony has spent his entire career as a mindless bureaucrat, and now is on a power trip.

He went from Residency directly to Government.  Entire career a bureaucrat.