Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 09, 2020, 07:04:48 AM
WTF????
So we did.
It was astonishing. Probably two or three hundred people, Trump flags, American flags, along our busiest street. Lots of answering honks and waves. Then we all grouped up at the nearby stage for speakers, prayers, guidance and what to do. A man spoke who is an elected official but also a forensic accountant and statistical analyst. Two high school students pleaded for schools to reopen.
We are in a coup. It is true that if this isn’t stopped now, there never will be a Republican victory. Sidney Powell has said Dems even fraud themselves for power. In several state primaries, HRC was frauded by the Dems to shoehorn O in.
Get off Twitter and FB. Now.
Write your congresspeople and demand recounts, fraud investigations, election reform. If you saw what happened Tuesday night, say so. I saw it. The sudden stop, the statistically impossible surge of Biden votes.
Send money to Trump’s election defense fund.
Stop being silent about what is going on. This is an information war.
Get involved in local conservative politics.
Pray for the President. He is strong, and loves a challenge, but the next month will be a bitter hell.
Pray that this fraud be revealed so clearly it can’t be ignored.
Don’t give up.
Post by: Dweyant on November 09, 2020, 07:17:05 AM
-Dan
Post by: Lucifer on November 09, 2020, 07:36:17 AM
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The Babylon Bee satirical news site last week had a story headlined: "Hillary Clinton: 'Trump Must Stop Fueling Dangerous Conspiracy Theories About Our Elections Being Unfair.'"
"After escaping from her underground padded room designed to look like the Oval Office, Hillary Clinton called on Trump to concede the race and stop fueling conspiracy theories about the election being unfair," the satirical website wrote. "The woman who has screamed about Russia stealing the election from her in 2016 lashed out at Trump for saying voter fraud stole the election from him in 2020."
While it was all just a joke, it's not far off from what's actually happening with President Trump, who has been claiming that voter fraud and other nefarious activities — with just as much proof so far as Clinton: none — altered the outcome of a presidential election.
The only difference: Social media, along with the mainstream media, are dismissing Trump's claims — even though they went all in for Clinton's equally unsubstantiated claims.
In a 24-hour period between mid-morning Thursday and Friday, Twitter censored six of Trump's posts. Trump's posts weren't visible. Instead, there was this note attached by Twitter: "Some or all of the content shared in this Tweet is disputed and might be misleading about an election or other civic process."
Site visitors could still click "view" on the right side to see the post.
In one post, Trump said: "All of the recent Biden claimed States will be legally challenged by us for Voter Fraud and State Election Fraud. Plenty of proof - just check out the Media. WE WILL WIN! America First!"
A couple of other posts from Trump included, "STOP THE COUNT!" and "ANY VOTE THAT CAME IN AFTER ELECTION DAY WILL NOT BE COUNTED!"
Twitter also provided another link alongside many of the president's tweets that takes visitors to a page titled "civic integrity policy."
"What is in violation of this policy?" the pages states. "This policy addresses 4 categories of misleading behavior and content:
In one category, "misleading information about outcomes," Twitter states: "We will label or remove false or misleading information intended to undermine public confidence in an election or other civic process. This includes but is not limited to:
disputed claims that could undermine faith in the process itself, such as unverified information about election rigging, ballot tampering, vote tallying, or certification of election results; and
misleading claims about the results or outcome of a civic process which calls for or could lead to interference with the implementation of the results of the process, e.g.
claiming victory before election results have been certified, inciting unlawful conduct to prevent the procedural or practical implementation of election results (note that our violent threats policy may also be relevant for threats not covered by this policy).
Meanwhile, Facebook removed a group called "Stop the Steal" that was organizing protests at vote-counting facilities across the nation.
"The group was organized around the delegitimization of the election process, and we saw worrying calls for violence from some members of the group," a Facebook spokesperson said.
So it's worth noting that that's exactly what Clinton did after she lost badly in 2016, getting crushed in the Electoral College in a 304-227 vote.
In the days after that election, Clinton claimed that Russia had sought to infiltrate the U.S. election and had somehow affected the outcome by posting false stories on social media (Team Hillary never explained how those posts prompted millions of voters in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin — all of which she lost — to vote for Trump). And she, like Trump, offered no proof of her allegations.
But Clinton's conspiracy theory grabbed hold in the mainstream media, which breathlessly reported that the election may have been "stolen."
That didn't work out well. Trump was investigated for 675 days by special counsel Robert Mueller and a team of 19 lawyers. Despite 2,800 subpoenas and 500 witness interviews, prosecutors found no evidence "that any U.S. person or Trump campaign official or associate” conspired or "knowingly coordinated" with Russians during the 2016 campaign.
Still, Trump was impeached and both the MSM and social media had no problem propagating the conspiracy theory that Clinton was robbed — for four straight years.
After last week's election, Clinton apparently wasn't open to the idea that some outside force altered the outcome of the election. "The voters have spoken, and they have chosen @JoeBiden and @KamalaHarris to be our next president and vice president," Clinton tweeted Saturday after The Associated Press, CNN, ABC, NBC and other news outlets called the race for Biden.
"It's a history-making ticket, a repudiation of Trump, and a new page for America. Thank you to everyone who helped make this happen. Onward, together," she wrote.
Last week's election was also reminiscent of 2000, when George W. Bush and Al Gore found themselves virtually tied after Election Day.
Television networks changed their calls four times that night. First they called Florida — and the election — for Gore, then they pulled that back. Then they called it for Bush, but later rescinded that, too.
That history is also being rewritten. New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman asserted that Gore "took a bullet for the country" in 2000, in contrast to Trump who, Friedman said, "put a bullet into the country" with the "shameful" speech he gave Thursday night, in which he also alleged voter fraud.
Fox News senior political analyst (and former anchor) Brit Hume ripped that up, tweeting, "In 2000, Al Gore put the country through a 37-day recount process in which he urged the courts to permit recounts only in the places where he thought he'd find additional votes for him."
Social and mainstream media was all in when Clinton made her claims, but not so much now that Trump is making his. It's too early to tell what will happen in Election 2020, but one thing we do know is that Trump's claims that an outside force — voter fraud — altered the outcome of the 2020 election are not at all equal to Clinton's claims that an outside force — Russia — altered the 2016 results.
Post by: nddons on November 09, 2020, 09:07:47 AM
My husband is the most laid back guy ever. Yesterday he suddenly said, “Let’s go to that Stop the Steal” rally.Thanks for the post. My wife signed up for training by the local county GOP for the recount effort.
WTF????
So we did.
It was astonishing. Probably two or three hundred people, Trump flags, American flags, along our busiest street. Lots of answering honks and waves. Then we all grouped up at the nearby stage for speakers, prayers, guidance and what to do. A man spoke who is an elected official but also a forensic accountant and statistical analyst. Two high school students pleaded for schools to reopen.
We are in a coup. It is true that if this isn’t stopped now, there never will be a Republican victory. Sidney Powell has said Dems even fraud themselves for power. In several state primaries, HRC was frauded by the Dems to shoehorn O in.
Get off Twitter and FB. Now.
Write your congresspeople and demand recounts, fraud investigations, election reform. If you saw what happened Tuesday night, say so. I saw it. The sudden stop, the statistically impossible surge of Biden votes.
Send money to Trump’s election defense fund.
Stop being silent about what is going on. This is an information war.
Get involved in local conservative politics.
Pray for the President. He is strong, and loves a challenge, but the next month will be a bitter hell.
Pray that this fraud be revealed so clearly it can’t be ignored.
Don’t give up.
Rush Limbaugh will be dead within the year. He knows it. Yet on a Friday he was more upbeat and optimistic than every Republican I know, combined.
We owe it to Rush Limbaugh, Donald Trump, and people like you to keep the fight up, even if, and ESPECIALLY IF, Trump’s legal fight fails.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 09, 2020, 09:12:32 AM
Keep seeing these posts about more votes in Wisconsin than registered voters. How could one know if election day registration is allowed? How do we know how many registered voters there are?
Post by: Little Joe on November 09, 2020, 09:14:31 AM
Stan,I don't know if it is true, but I saw one convincing article that said the number of voters in 2020 exceeded the number of registered voters in 2016. But I don't remember where I saw it. Of course though, it is easy to sound convincing if you lie and make up numbers.
Keep seeing these posts about more votes in Wisconsin than registered voters. How could one know if election day registration is allowed? How do we know how many registered voters there are?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 09, 2020, 09:24:50 AM
Stan,
Keep seeing these posts about more votes in Wisconsin than registered voters. How could one know if election day registration is allowed? How do we know how many registered voters there are?
It would seem that a robust list of those registered to vote would be easy to obtain, regardless of when they register. It’s not like we’re writing them by hand in a big register book days later.
I’ve seen that when votes exceed registered voters, it means the stealers were sloppy ... they didn’t dump enough red votes to create “legitimate” space for the frauded blue votes.
You’ve seen the pics of bags of ballots dumped ... found in the woods and in dumpsters. These are from heavily Republican areas.
Post by: Lucifer on November 09, 2020, 09:27:21 AM
Asking for a friend. ::)
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 09, 2020, 09:30:41 AM
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/11/facebook-fact-checks-me.php
Post by: Lucifer on November 09, 2020, 09:32:52 AM
Social media censoring. Dump them.
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/11/facebook-fact-checks-me.php
Social media is deploying the exact same techniques the CCP uses. Should tell you all you need to know about them.
Post by: Steingar on November 09, 2020, 11:55:53 AM
Post by: Little Joe on November 09, 2020, 12:06:36 PM
Your Mango Mussilini lost. Get over it. Stop being a bunch of whiny sore losers.Has there been an official announcement yet?
There are lots of charges of improper vote counting. Just as you said hundreds of times when Trump was being charged with all sorts of things, don't you think those charges should be investigated?
Post by: Anthony on November 09, 2020, 12:12:17 PM
Your Mango Mussilini lost. Get over it. Stop being a bunch of whiny sore losers.
Says your Commie Media who is heavily invested in a Biden, Harris Coup. Look up media giant Comcast and see who they openly backed and Financed.
Biden isn't shit yet so STFU and stop your incessant whining.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 09, 2020, 12:31:30 PM
Post by: Mr Pou on November 09, 2020, 12:52:39 PM
Your Mango Mussilini lost. Get over it. Stop being a bunch of whiny sore losers.
The last time I looked, the Electoral College does not vote until December 14.
Post by: nddons on November 09, 2020, 01:36:14 PM
Stan,Same-day registration is allowed in Wisconsin. I hate it, but it’s in the law. At my polling place there was a separate line for same day registration, and I think (but I didn’t ask) a separate machine for same-day registration ballots.
Keep seeing these posts about more votes in Wisconsin than registered voters. How could one know if election day registration is allowed? How do we know how many registered voters there are?
My recollection (I don’t have time to research it right now) is that same day registration ballots are segregated, in the event that the registration is problematic for some reason.
Post by: nddons on November 09, 2020, 01:37:18 PM
I don't know if it is true, but I saw one convincing article that said the number of voters in 2020 exceeded the number of registered voters in 2016. But I don't remember where I saw it. Of course though, it is easy to sound convincing if you lie and make up numbers.There is same day registration in Wisconsin, so it’s easily possible to have more voters than registered voters known prior to Election Day.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 09, 2020, 03:12:29 PM
There is same day registration in Wisconsin, so it’s easily possible to have more voters than registered voters known prior to Election Day.
which I would expect.
What would be surprising is having more votes this year than registered voters in 2018, unless there was a huge growth in population and/or voter apathy in 2018 (measured by many people not even registering to vote)
Post by: Anthony on November 09, 2020, 03:25:59 PM
There is same day registration in Wisconsin, so it’s easily possible to have more voters than registered voters known prior to Election Day.
So, as we know, all the Democrat/Media claims and accusations of "Voter Disenfranchisement" are just a big fucking LIE purely to ENABLE THIS KIND OF FRAUD!!!
>:(
Post by: Username on November 09, 2020, 06:58:41 PM
Your Mango Mussilini lost. Get over it. Stop being a bunch of whiny sore losers.I've noticed a trend that when you're behind in the argument you resort to personal insults. This has been much more apparent in these last few days. Not many facts, lots of thrashing about and screaming insults. Not very nice. Not very nice at all.
Post by: Lucifer on November 09, 2020, 07:13:25 PM
https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2020/11/trumps-plan-to-defeat-cheats.html
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A snarky reader asked what's President Donald John Trump's plan. What is his Sun Tzu plan now, the reader taunted. I thought about it, and I have figured it out.
Democrats are stealing the election in Michigan and Pennsylvania. This bothered the heck out of many people because it seems as if nothing can be done to stop them. In Michigan, people born before the Civil War voted. In Philadelphia, Democrats ignored a court order to let Republicans observe the voting. Those are just two of the many irregularities.
Republican Senator Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania, told NBC his state's Supreme Court "went rogue and decided to violate the U.S. Constitution, ignore Pennsylvania law, and just rewrite the law themselves.
"In Pennsylvania, unfortunately, it's been a little bit complicated by a Pennsylvania Supreme Court that went rogue and decided to violate the U.S. constitution, ignore Pennsylvania law, and just rewrite the law themselves.
"They have no authority to do that. And they extended the period of time over which ballots can arrive beyond the deadline. That's outrageous, frankly."
Some people are banking on state legislatures overturning election. Perhaps they can.
Forget recounts. The same people who counted the votes the first time will count them again.
Biden declared victory on Saturday night.
Big mistake.
Democrats took the bait. Now President Trump can go to the Supreme Court and have the elections in Michigan and Pennsylvania declared invalid. Without those Electoral College votes, Biden fails to reach 270 and the election gets thrown into the House.
Other states also may be invalidated. The Supreme Court will decide, and I believe President Trump has 5 votes and Chief Justice John McCain Roberts has only 4.
Ignoring a federal judge's order is never a good idea when you are stealing an election.
In 1876 when Sam Tilden had a majority of the popular vote and the electors he needed, but because of election irregularities, the elections were invalidated and Rutherford B. Hayes elected.
A commission decided that race. No commission will decide this one.
In 1824, John Quincy Adams lost to Andrew Jackson, who failed to have a majority of the electors needed. The House decided the election.
But the Constitution holds that the state delegations each get one vote in electing a president. Thus California's 53 seats don't matter. It gets one vote. So does Alaska.
By my count, President Trump has the 26 states he needs even if Democrats steal the House race in Alaska.
He also has a legal team that includes Mafia Buster Rudy Giuliani, Nicholas Sandmann's lawyer Lin Wood, and General Flynn's lawyer Sidney Powell. He is in good hands.
Donald Trump, the man, knew Democrats were up to something. Likely fraud. He figured out how to beat them. Now he is Sun Tzu fighting.
Ruth Ginsburg's death helped him. I am not saying The Lord intervened, but Otto von Bismarck said, "There is a providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children, and the United States of America."
(He was the man who pieced together the Republic of Germany using the USA as his model.)
Biden called for national unity on Saturday night. OK. Let us unite behind President Trump.
Never give up. Never compromise with evil.
Oh and Never Bet Against Donald John Trump.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 09, 2020, 07:21:30 PM
I've noticed a trend that when you're behind in the argument you resort to personal insults. This has been much more apparent in these last few days. Not many facts, lots of thrashing about and screaming insults. Not very nice. Not very nice at all.
small correction:
when he notices he's losing
and/or when he drunk-posts
Post by: Lucifer on November 09, 2020, 07:31:40 PM
I've noticed a trend that when you're behind in the argument you resort to personal insults. This has been much more apparent in these last few days. Not many facts, lots of thrashing about and screaming insults. Not very nice. Not very nice at all.
Actually he's a good bellwether for the democrats. His erratic behavior, insult slinging, "Why can't you accept this!" BS is all what he is regurgitating from his beloved CNN.
One would think the dims would be all happy and joyous right now, but for some odd reason they are still angry and highly agitated. Yea, I know it's because many see through the ruse the dims created in a lame attempt to hide their stealing and put their sorry lame candidate in the winner's circle. But to be a winner, one actually has to win something. Biden hasn't won anything except his adoring MSM and droves of mindless progressives who can't wait for him to be inaugurated, so they can kick him to the curb and put Commie-La in the seat.
Post by: Lucifer on November 09, 2020, 07:37:30 PM
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/11/03/2020-election-recount-ballot-machine-technology-law-433871
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If you used a mail-in ballot in Fulton County, Georgia this year, you may have noticed peculiar language at the top of the ballot: “Copyright © 2020 Dominion Voting Inc.” Dominion Voting is a private company that sells election technology. And this ballot design — which was created by Dominion and counted using the company’s proprietary equipment — is technically its intellectual property.
Unusual as it may seem, this isn’t uncommon: Most voting technology used throughout the U.S. is covered by intellectual property law. That means the touch-screen you might have tapped on to vote could be patented. The software used to process your vote could be copyrighted. Before you even got to the voting booth, your ballot was likely designed on copyrighted software.
And all of it could cause a nightmare after Nov. 3, according to election-security experts.
“We’re going to wind up with a thousand court cases that cannot just be resolved by just going into the software and checking to see what happened, because it’s proprietary,” said Ben Ptashnik, the co-founder of the National Election Defense Coalition, a bipartisan advocacy group that pushes Congress to reform election security.
Election Day is here. The results? They might not be finalized for a while. And that has lawyers for Trump and Biden preparing for lawsuits, recounts and some odd scenarios that you might never have thought.
In most elections, the intellectual-property laws that surround the machinery of America’s electoral system prove inconsequential in determining who won or lost a campaign, and software isn’t central to most contested-election scenarios, such as late-arriving ballots or issues with access to polling locations. But in instances where the vote tally itself is in question, analysts could need access to voting machines’ underlying code to determine if potential security flaws, errors or even purposeful tampering are behind the irregularities. And this year, with widespread fears of contested ballots, recounts and the potential for weeks of legal challenges that threaten to undermine public faith in the results, those IP laws could prove decisive.
“You know how Apple fights against law enforcement coming in and going into their iPhone software? Well, you’d be in the same position,” said Ptashnik. “You might have to go all the way to the Supreme Court to get permission to get into proprietary software.”
Three major companies — Election Systems & Software, Dominion Voting Systems and Hart InterCivic — together control about 90 percent of the U.S. market for voting systems, according to election security advocates and researchers consulted by POLITICO. Industry-wide, it is standard practice for those companies to tightly control who has access to their proprietary software — not only to help those companies maintain an edge over their competitors, but to prevent the fraud or hacking of elections equipment. That means that the relevant source code used to design ballots and tabulate votes is copyrighted and private.
The rough outline of those legal battles is further complicated by the contracts some states have entered into with the election-tech companies. For instance, take Michigan — the pivotal battleground state that President Donald Trump won in 2016. Under a 10-year contract signed with Hart InterCivic in 2017, the state agreed not to “attempt to access or derive any source code” used by the company. In a similar agreement with Dominion, Michigan “agree[d] not to reverse engineer or otherwise attempt to derive the source code” of the company’s software, and forfeited its right to transfer its license for Dominion’s software to third parties.
Contracts and licensing agreements are one of a few ways companies prevent outsiders from looking at their proprietary code. The Digital Millennium Copyright Act is another. Section 1201 of that federal law may block anyone besides the source code owner from accessing and viewing copyrighted source code, even if it’s for the purpose of gauging the security of those systems.
For researchers like University of Michigan computer science professor J. Alex Halderman, that presents a real obstacle.
“I’ve studied machines several times that came up on eBay after state governments decommissioned them,” said Halderman. “Once, in 2005, I got to study another voting machine because an anonymous source gave us one and our lawyers were convinced we would be allowed to study it.”
What Halderman and others are trying to prove is that these machines are secure. But some election technology companies say giving researchers access to their software is a security risk in itself.
Voatz, a technology firm that sells mobile voting systems, recently filed an amicus brief to the Supreme Court arguing that opening up its software to well-meaning third parties invites bad actors to exploit the system.
“If a security vulnerability is widely disseminated publicly and prematurely, it can expose software platforms and their users to malicious attacks, as ill-intentioned hackers can take advantage of such vulnerabilities prior to the development of any patch,” the brief said.
There are other ways to ensure security besides opening the door to hackers. One option is certifying technology equipment through the Election Assistance Commission, which also tests systems for functionality and accessibility. But Halderman says its testing program is weak.
“That level of testing is very superficial from a security standpoint,” Halderman said. “There’s now been many, many dozens of studies by academics and other independent researchers of voting machines in the U.S., virtually every one of which passed the EAC testing before it was found to have vulnerabilities by other testers.”
Federal auditors do get to inspect parts of voting-machine software, but the goal is to evaluate functionality, not quality, according to Eddie Perez, a former Hart InterCivic executive who now works with the Open Source Election Technology Institute to advocate for publicly owned voting systems.
“It’s a little bit like a mechanic looking under the hood of a car and saying, ‘The carburetor is indeed driving the piston, and that’s driving the crankshaft that makes the wheels go,’” said Perez. “But that’s not the same thing as the mechanic saying, ‘This is the best-quality car that I’ve ever seen and it’s a Mercedes, not a Yugo.’”
Getting that sort of third-party certification is critical to building public trust in an election’s outcome, said Perez. Without it, the public might have a hard time trusting election officials or election-technology companies — both of which could hypothetically produce an audit that protects their own interests.
Dominion and Hart InterCivic did not respond to repeated requests for comment for this article. ES&S told POLITICO its systems have been inspected by third parties, but it’s unclear if those audits were paid for by the company and if the findings were made public.
“ES&S has been participating in an industry effort to craft a vulnerability disclosure program that works for both security researchers and the elections technology industry,” a company spokesperson said. That program invites findings from researchers about possible vulnerability in its digital products, even though ES&S “does not give authorization to test state and local government election related networks or assets.”
Asked why it frequently places its products under intellectual protection, ES&S had a simple answer: “It’s common practice for businesses to protect their intellectual property.”
Which, to election security experts, is precisely the problem.
“What is so secret about the way these machines are counting our votes?” asked Halderman. “That’s the question that everyone should be asking when we’re told that the software is copyrighted.”
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 09, 2020, 08:39:30 PM
If we don’t get back to in-person voting with ID, the country is screwed.
Let 2020 be a lesson.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 09, 2020, 09:38:04 PM
An impressive lineup of vote fraud cases in my opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAGZOQgrKoc
Post by: nddons on November 10, 2020, 10:42:31 AM
So, as we know, all the Democrat/Media claims and accusations of "Voter Disenfranchisement" are just a big fucking LIE purely to ENABLE THIS KIND OF FRAUD!!!Yes. Remember the good old days where we were told that photo ID laws would “disenfranchise” voters who couldn’t find their way to the DMV to get a free voter ID, and every lawsuit with a “show plaintiff” ultimately demonstrated that every plaintiff actually had an acceptable ID, but didn’t want to use it?
>:(
Good times, good times.
Now people can vote for 30-60 days in advance, need to reason for an absentee ballot, are sent absentee ballots or solicitations for absentee ballots without needing to request them (that happened in Wisconsin), can vote in person 2-6 weeks in advance, and in some states you don’t even have to get the ballot in on or before Election Day.
Next person who tells me voters are getting disenfranchised is going to get throat punched.
Post by: nddons on November 10, 2020, 11:36:06 AM
An actual press conference. At the White House. Where Kayleigh asks the questions the reporters should be asking, and tells them so.And Neil Cavuto on Fox News broke away when she mentioned illegal votes.
An impressive lineup of vote fraud cases in my opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAGZOQgrKoc
https://youtu.be/p8gHVA4D7IQ
The fix is in.
Post by: Lucifer on November 10, 2020, 11:41:39 AM
OANN is on the rise.
Post by: Steingar on November 10, 2020, 11:58:54 AM
Post by: Username on November 10, 2020, 12:03:35 PM
Funny how when Trump won none of you were worried about election fraud or anything else...Free and fair elections are ALWAYS a concern. Right now elections are neither free nor fair. But it's up to the loser to prove fraud. It's up to the winner to prove fair.
Post by: Lucifer on November 10, 2020, 12:48:27 PM
Funny how when Trump won none of you were worried about election fraud or anything else...
After 4 years of allegations and accusations, plus investigations from the House, the Senate and the DoJ including a Special Counsel, spending $50 million, the only thing found was some Russians putting some ads on FaceBook.
And not one of those Russians have seen the inside of a courtroom.
So yes, the Republicans allowed the cases to go forward, and the investigations to conclude. And once again, the dims came up empty handed.
Now, we have evidence of fraud, and the republicans want to investigate, yet you and your fellow communist want it stopped.
One more time: If there is nothing to this, why not let it run its course?
What are you so afraid of?
Post by: Steingar on November 10, 2020, 01:09:41 PM
Now, we have evidence of fraud, and the republicans want to investigate, yet you and your fellow communist want it stopped.
What is your evidence of fraud? Some cockeyed statistical analysis? Or does Trump saying something automatically make it true?
Post by: Mr Pou on November 10, 2020, 01:15:27 PM
What is your evidence of fraud? Some cockeyed statistical analysis? Or does Trump saying something automatically make it true?
What was the democratic evidence of Russian meddling? Some cockeyed statistical analysis? Or does Pelosi saying something automatically make it true?
Post by: Steingar on November 10, 2020, 02:06:42 PM
What was the democratic evidence of Russian meddling? Some cockeyed statistical analysis? Or does Pelosi saying something automatically make it true?No, disinformation spread all over the web, some of it posted right here. Got traced back to Russia.
Post by: Rush on November 10, 2020, 02:09:35 PM
What is your evidence of fraud? Some cockeyed statistical analysis? Or does Trump saying something automatically make it true?
Signed affidavits, dead people's ballots returned, videos of lawful observers being blocked from entering, etc. The lawyers are collecting all this evidence of unlawful, illegal ballots. But keep deluding yourself.
There's nothing like this for Russian meddling, other than what you call "disinformation" ie: facebook posts, which actually pretty much is freedom of speech. The whole Steele dossier was unproved.
Post by: Lucifer on November 10, 2020, 03:20:24 PM
What is your evidence of fraud? Some cockeyed statistical analysis? Or does Trump saying something automatically make it true?
Several articles have already been posted on the subject, and each day more revelations are coming out. And I could waste my time cutting and pasting, but you, acting like a petulant 10 year old who's been told they can't have a new toy, will just throw another temper tantrum, hurl expletives, and claim none of it's true.
Here's my solution. Let's let the lawsuits run their course, and let the courts decide.
Unlike you, I'm not here shaking in fear of the unknown.
Post by: Lucifer on November 10, 2020, 03:21:43 PM
No, disinformation spread all over the web, some of it posted right here. Got traced back to Russia.
(https://media.tenor.com/images/f7354b8c66dcf774a0cd75d1806e0d56/tenor.gif)
Post by: Anthony on November 10, 2020, 03:44:28 PM
My FIL voted for his 50 yr old retarded (they call her autistic now) daughter. He filled it out, she signed it, he mailed it.
His wife (my Step Mother in Law) voted for her hispanic maid. Again, MIL filled it out, she signed it and MIL mailed it.
None of that ever happened before.
I guess secret ballots are just a memory now.
We are now the USSR. There was a reason we had in person, secure, standardized voting when we were America. Now the forces of Evil have changed the underpinnings of our society.
Post by: Palmpilot on November 10, 2020, 08:20:00 PM
What was the democratic evidence of Russian meddling? Some cockeyed statistical analysis? Or does Pelosi saying something automatically make it true?
Would you settle for republican evidence?
https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf
Post by: Lucifer on November 10, 2020, 08:23:07 PM
Would you settle for republican evidence?
https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf
And did you see when the indicted Russians came into a US court to stand trial?
Naw, neither did anyone else.....................
Fifty Million taxpayer dollars to indict some Russians over a few Facebook ads.
Post by: Lucifer on November 10, 2020, 08:36:05 PM
Post by: Lucifer on November 10, 2020, 08:36:32 PM
Post by: Lucifer on November 11, 2020, 06:50:05 AM
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/11/three-things-do-next-katie-hopkins/
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“When I am not crying, I feel frozen and numb.”
The text above, like so many others I have received from the great Americans I was fortunate to campaign alongside this summer in America, threatens to break my heart all over again.
And I understand it. I can feel it — viscerally. As a respectful outsider to your great country, I use "we" when I think of you and me, because I feel it just as keenly too.
We feel disbelief at what just happened and near paralysis at the thought of it. It is as if someone changed the speed setting on life and forced everything into slow motion, where you get to watch a horrible moment of impact play out in excruciating detail, wincing hard for the moment of impact that hasn’t truly made itself felt just yet.
And there IS a lot of tough stuff to swallow:
1) World leaders like Boris Johnson congratulating Joe Biden, scrambling to be the first to deposit an odious message on Twitter: "looking forward to working together on our shared priorities of climate change, trade and security." In truth, Biden’s policies (were he to be formally elected as President) would actually be a version of AOC’s Green New Deal and a disaster for America and the UK.
2) The media and their relentless push for Biden, pumping a win they have no right to declare, and reveling in the perceived humiliation of Trump.
The self-aggrandizer-in-chief from CNN, Don Lemon with his $4 million annual salary, believes he has had it toughest of all: "I don’t dare speak for my colleagues, but I can’t tell you how difficult its been as a journalist to cover this dark part of our history. Let’s hope the attacks on journalists, journalism and EVERYONE ends."
Then again, he owns poodles…Has it really been that difficult for you, Little Don, you poor little tortured puppet, sitting in your comfy studio with your make-up artist and production team?
3) And then there’s the Biden-Harris supporters themselves (although admittedly many of these appear to be people who died a decade ago). I watch them celebrating the alleged Biden win and realized they aren’t actually celebrating a Biden win at all — but a perceived Trump loss.
For them, Trump losing is much more meaningful than a Biden win. And that tells you a lot about Democrat supporters and the media who are backing them. It is never about the hard work of building something great, but rather the temporary thrill of destroying something already in play.
Regardless of all this tough stuff we are being force-fed, there is a way for us to take back control and to feel a whole lot better:
[1] We can reject the narrative.
The media does NOT call an election. Fraud is NOT acceptable and until the courts have ruled on any outstanding matters, Biden is NOT the President. It does not matter how many world leaders want to congratulate him, or how many times you hear "President-Elect Biden" repeated in the press.
We have to reject the narrative we are being force-fed. Look what happens to people inside the media when they try to speak for themselves or articulate the alleged fraud. Yet again, Judge Jeanine was sacrificed by Fox News when she tried to speak her truths. I wish the boys on the team had the moral courage to stand by her side.
[2] We can remember our truths.
They are powerful and authentic. Our truths are built on four years of supporting the President, of working hard at grass roots to build momentum and support, and understanding the difference he has made to the lives of ordinary Americans. Our faith is strong because of time invested in attending his rallies or helping with his re-election. And the truths of the Republican Party are strong too.
Right now, the Republican Party is doing better with Hispanics and blacks that at any other time in its history. And this success has been demonstrated in the House and Senate. Republican incumbents held their Senate seats, creating a Republican majority of 53 to 47 pre-runoffs.
Republicans flipped eight House seats, six by female candidates. At least 13 GOP women are headed to the House. And these newly-elected women are fierce conservatives who echo Trump on a range of issues, including building a wall, defending gun rights, and scrapping the Affordable Care Act.
Our truths matter.
[3] We stand strong.
Now is the time to hold the line behind President Trump.
We have observed the silence of those keeping their heads below the parapet, and heard from the treacherous list of cretins who could not wait to stick the boot in and display their RINO credentials for the world to see; like Mitt Romney calling Trump a 900-lb. gorilla. Better to be a 900-lb. gorilla than a snake.
None of us wants to be like Mitt Romney. In fact, I’d argue Mitt Romney doesn’t even want to be Mitt Romney as a failed Presidential candidate and someone that voted to impeach the President of his own party. How on earth can he call himself a Republican?
We do not concede. We put our heads up and follow the leaders pushing us forward like Gaetz, Marjorie Taylor-Greene, and young influencers like Scott Pressler and Brandon Straka who are national treasures (or at least should be) and have been relentless in their efforts to support the President.
Millions more Americans voted for Trump in 2020 than in 2016. He remains the most important and powerful man in the Republican Party, and arguably the Party is stronger than at any time before.
My message back to your texts is that you don’t have to sit and watch this car crash, election steal play out in slow-mo any more. You have work to do.
You resist the narrative. You know your truths. And you stand strong.
Post by: Lucifer on November 11, 2020, 08:01:46 AM
Post by: Number7 on November 11, 2020, 08:08:17 AM
No, disinformation spread all over the web, some of it posted right here. Got traced back to Russia.
Disinformation equals anyth8ng that doesn't adhere to the communist Democratic Party agenda....
Post by: nddons on November 11, 2020, 01:08:21 PM
My FIL voted for his 50 yr old retarded (they call her autistic now) daughter. He filled it out, she signed it, he mailed it.Evil.
His wife (my Step Mother in Law) voted for her hispanic maid. Again, MIL filled it out, she signed it and MIL mailed it.
None of that ever happened before.
I guess secret ballots are just a memory now.
. I would have a difficult time sharing a Thanksgiving table with those people. The fact that they admitted it to you (or your wife) is another sign that lawlessness seems to be morally acceptable to the far left.
Post by: Username on November 11, 2020, 01:14:32 PM
Evil. I would have a difficult time sharing a Thanksgiving table with those people.Double voting is a felony. They confessed to you. Hefty fines and jail time.
The fact that they admitted it to you (or your wife) is another sign that lawlessness seems to be morally acceptable to the far left.
https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/double-voting.aspx
Edit: reread your post and it doesn't quite fit double voting. Still EVIL though.
Post by: Little Joe on November 11, 2020, 01:24:12 PM
Evil.That is difficult every year. That is why we fly away on a vacation most holidays. But with the pandemic, and the very probably fact that this will probably be my FILs last Christmas, I will probably suck it up and be
Post by: Lucifer on November 11, 2020, 04:00:47 PM
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on November 11, 2020, 06:03:17 PM