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Title: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 22, 2019, 03:59:18 PM
Gonna be a lot of pissed of Democrats
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Lucifer on March 22, 2019, 04:05:48 PM
Gonna be a lot of pissed of Democrats

The new narrative: "Trump is guilty, but he didn't cooperate, so he's guilty anyway".
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Username on March 22, 2019, 04:11:11 PM
"Mueller clearly didn't dig deep enough so we'll have to keep digging until we find something."
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Lucifer on March 22, 2019, 04:20:50 PM
"Mueller clearly didn't dig deep enough so we'll have to keep digging until we find something."

This is Adam Schitt's premise.

On the other hand "Fat Bastard" Naddler is searching for a crime or anything that can remotely resemble a crime.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Lucifer on March 22, 2019, 04:23:13 PM
And next week the MSM will be crying Trump was uncooperative, but they won't tell you his administration was fully cooperative, answered all interrogatories, staff answered hearings and the WH provided over a million copies of documents.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Number7 on March 22, 2019, 05:42:42 PM
The Mueller scam is every bit as dishonest and a totaly fraudulent as the scam mmgw lies.

Everything about it is contrived, lies, bullshit.

Mueller lies almost as well as algore and hilary.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: NippleBoy on March 22, 2019, 06:12:39 PM
It seems any time you get a special counsel appointed, it goes WAY over it's intended purpose. It's almost like they're milking a contract.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on March 22, 2019, 08:27:11 PM
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Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Anthony on March 23, 2019, 05:20:34 AM
I love it.  This is like election night for Trump when all the Hillary supporters were crying in stunned disbelief.  The Democrats, and the Media are guilty of Sedition for staging a COUP to overthrow a legitimate President.  What would have happened of the Republicans did that?  There would be an uproar like never heard before.

They should bring back firing squads, and stand up all the Democrats and Media people that were crying Russia, Russia, Russia for two, and a half years as if it were proven FACT.  Stand them up against the wall.  What consequences will there now be for these criminals?
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Lucifer on March 23, 2019, 06:10:30 AM
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/byron-york-five-things-that-didnt-happen-in-the-mueller-investigation
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Lucifer on March 23, 2019, 06:11:25 AM
https://nypost.com/2019/03/22/mueller-wraps-up-but-dont-expect-the-hysteria-to-end/
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Lucifer on March 23, 2019, 06:13:18 AM
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/curtis-houck/2019/03/22/must-read-chris-matthews-suffers-epic-meltdown-over-mueller-report
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Lucifer on March 23, 2019, 06:19:15 AM
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Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Anthony on March 23, 2019, 06:25:37 AM
Chris Matthews is a DEMOCRAT hack.  My uncle went to high school with him, and knew him well.  His whole family are life long, far left Democrat stooges, and pure party HACKS.  He has no credibility and no better than that crazy lesbian Rachel Maddow. 
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Number7 on March 23, 2019, 06:34:56 AM
Chris Matthews is a DEMOCRAT hack.  My uncle went to high school with him, and knew him well.  His whole family are life long, far left Democrat stooges, and purely party HACKS.  He has no credibility and no better than that crazy lesbian Rachel Maddow.

Isn't rachel maddow the guy that used to be on Wonder Years?
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Anthony on March 23, 2019, 06:37:15 AM
Isn't rachel maddow the guy that used to be on Wonder Years?

Fred Savage is not only better looking, he's more feminine than Maddow.  :)
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: jb1842 on March 23, 2019, 07:17:57 AM
Isn't rachel maddow the guy that used to be on Wonder Years?

No. Screech from Saved by the Bell.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Anthony on March 23, 2019, 07:31:56 AM
The Liberal/Progressives all over the U.S. are in total meltdown mode.  They believed the Democrat and Media lies and thought this was their way to get rid of the guy that beat their savior HILLARY.  Never mind it was an illegal coup attempt no better than a South or Central American banana republic would stage.  That doesn't matter to Progressives as they are always morally right so the end justifies the means. 

The Democrats and Media people behind this coup attempt should be prosecuted for Sedition and held accountable.  If not, they will do this again, and only the DEMOCRATS can do it as they own 95% or more of the MEDIA, TECH, Social Media, and much of corporate America.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: bflynn on March 24, 2019, 08:20:09 AM
Sedition means to incite people into rebellion. I assume that you mean the FBI people, but if you call that sedition, then you have to also identify and prosecute a rebellion.

It’s rather extreme.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Anthony on March 24, 2019, 08:22:38 AM
Sedition means to incite people into rebellion. I assume that you mean the FBI people, but if you call that sedition, then you have to also identify and prosecute a rebellion.

It’s rather extreme.

What would you call an attempt to use disinformation, and false accusations to unseat a legally elected, legitimate President?
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Lucifer on March 24, 2019, 01:02:49 PM
A big dud.

Here’s the findings summary by AG Barr

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5779683-AG-March-24-2019-Letter-to-House-and-Senate.html#document/p3
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Lucifer on March 24, 2019, 01:12:39 PM
Let’s see..... the senate committee has found no collusion or crimes, the house committee under the republicans found no collusion or crime.  And now, after 2 years, the Special Counsel has determined no collusion or crimes have been committed. 

And yet Adam Schitt and Fat Bastard Naddler want more investigations, more hearings.

What a clown show.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Mase on March 24, 2019, 03:56:14 PM
Let’s see.....

What a clown show.

Indeed.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Number7 on March 24, 2019, 04:22:35 PM
I'm wondering if President Trump will allow the Mueller scam report to be released and then pardon everyone that scum sucking, sleaze ball went after. It would be the sweetest revenge, to see everyone that lying, scum-bag persecuted, pardoned while the ink is still wet on mueller's pack of lies.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on March 24, 2019, 04:26:37 PM
Nothing changes materially for Trump haters. The “I just hate him” haters will keep on doing so, and the “I don’t care what’s in the report, I just know he’s guilty” haters will keep hating him too.

They don’t hate him for any valid reason, so they won't stop hating him for any valid reason.



Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Lucifer on March 24, 2019, 05:49:33 PM
Nothing changes materially for Trump haters. The “I just hate him” haters will keep on doing so, and the “I don’t care what’s in the report, I just know he’s guilty” haters will keep hating him too.

They don’t hate him for any valid reason, so they won't stop hating him for any valid reason.

 Exactly.

 Listening to the democrats this afternoon as they melt down only confirms this.

 Congress is no longer a legislative branch, but has, under Pelosi, moved into the prosecutor branch of government.   No evidence of crimes, but they will continue to harass the Trump Administration and anyone who dares associate with it.

 A Special Counsel was appointed, 2 years of investigation that included 19 lawyers, 40 FBI special agents, intelligence analyst, forensic accountants, and professional staff.  Also, 2,800 subpoenas, 500 search warrants, 230 orders for communication records, 500 witnesses, etc, etc.  And now we are hearing the investigation wasn't "thorough".

 Oh, and this little gem on the obstruction of justice part. "Fat Bastard" Nadler says the AG can't make the determination there was no obstruction of justice.

 WTF?   But Fat Bastard misses one important point...DAG Rosenstein agrees with the AG that there is insufficient evidence for obstruction of justice.

 Let the meltdown continue.......
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 24, 2019, 05:57:39 PM
I expect there to be a new narrative. "The Muller investigation has shown that the President is a poor judgement of character and thus should not be allowed to continue as our President because he can't be trusted."
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 24, 2019, 05:59:24 PM
The push will be on by Pelosi, Schitt and Nager to make Trump produce his tax returns. Don't be surprised if we see a deep stater at the IRS leak those.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Lucifer on March 24, 2019, 06:03:26 PM
The push will be on by Pelosi, Schitt and Nager to make Trump produce his tax returns. Don't be surprised if we see a deep stater at the IRS leak those.

 If someone does, then that's a legitimate investigation as it breaks several laws.

 The whole "produce your tax returns" narrative will go nowhere.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Lucifer on March 24, 2019, 06:14:15 PM
So where is Felonious Von Pantsuits?   Why is she not commenting??
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Lucifer on March 24, 2019, 06:20:16 PM
https://www.independentsentinel.com/chris-wallace-blames-trump-for-starting-the-russia-collusion-probe/

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The evidence shows that the President was likely framed and the Russia collusion probe was intended to damage or destroy him. That isn’t a narrative Chris Wallace will accept. In fact, he is gaslighting viewers by blaming Trump for the investigation into his alleged collusion with Russia.

Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday battled with former Rep. Jason Chaffetz, claiming the President is responsible for the probe in the first place.

When Jason Chaffetz said today that Democrats have to accept Mueller’s conclusions since he’s credible and there are no new indictments, Wallace jumped in, his temper flashing.
‘NO, NO, NO!”

“No, no, no!” he declared in anger, interrupting Chaffetz.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Lucifer on March 24, 2019, 06:43:36 PM
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Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Lucifer on March 24, 2019, 06:49:38 PM
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Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: bflynn on March 24, 2019, 06:56:11 PM
The push will be on by Pelosi, Schitt and Nager to make Trump produce his tax returns. Don't be surprised if we see a deep stater at the IRS leak those.

There are just a few people who can access the president's returns.  If anyone releases them, it's a felony violation and there's a very short list of suspects.

I suspect that if Democrats somehow force release, it will be controlled access/no copies due to the tax filings being evidence in an ongoing legal action.  I'm not sure that even Democrats could spring that loose.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Lucifer on March 25, 2019, 07:20:54 AM
https://www.newswars.com/collusion-delusion-dems-best-mueller-meltdown-memes/
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 25, 2019, 11:30:54 AM




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Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Little Joe on March 25, 2019, 11:33:09 AM
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Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: nddons on March 25, 2019, 12:12:34 PM
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Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Lucifer on March 25, 2019, 02:17:14 PM
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Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Lucifer on March 25, 2019, 02:23:58 PM
So where is Comey?  McCabe?  Brennan?

Seems awful quiet.

Maybe the perfesser would like to come tell us just what a big lie the Russian hoax really was.

Perfesser?  Azure?
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: nddons on March 25, 2019, 03:55:00 PM
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Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Number7 on March 25, 2019, 06:10:01 PM
So where is Comey?  McCabe?  Brennan?

Seems awful quiet.

Maybe the perfesser would like to come tell us just what a big lie the Russian hoax really was.

Perfesser?  Azure?

I'd imagine our esteemed (deluded) academics will try and weasel out of admitting anything but the NEXT big lie the communsit party tells them to believe.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 25, 2019, 06:48:05 PM

http://captiongenerator.com/1337712/Hitler-Reacts-to-the-Mueller-Report (http://captiongenerator.com/1337712/Hitler-Reacts-to-the-Mueller-Report)

Title: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Ron22 on March 25, 2019, 07:07:59 PM
I did not write this or agree with it. Just want to share their newest wet dream.
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Mueller is playing a much smarter game than Trumpy boo boo will ever know. Saw this posted earlier. "According to a new report from the New York Times Mueller has farmed out federal indictments to 1) the SDNY, in Manhattan, 2) the EDNY, in Brooklyn, 3) the EDVA in Virginia, 4) the U.S. Attorney’s office in Los Angeles, 5) the U.S. Attorney’s office in Washington DC, 6) the DOJ National Security Division, and 7) the DOJ Criminal Division. So is the take away from all this? Those who are familiar with Mueller’s investigation understand that “no more indictments from Mueller” doesn’t mean “no more indictments.” It means every single one of Mueller’s existing indictments resides in a “presidential pardon proof” prosecutorial district. Recall how Mueller handed off the Cohen case to the U.S. Attorneys’ office for the SDNY, who sent Cohen to prison. As his own investigation ends, it becomes clear Mueller plans to handle all indictments/prosecutions resulting from his investigation through these seven federal prosecutorial entities. In other words, the people on Team Trump who are celebrating right now are merely suffering from a lack of understanding about the rule of law and how federal and state prosecutions work."
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: nddons on March 25, 2019, 07:24:10 PM
I'd imagine our esteemed (deluded) academics will try and weasel out of admitting anything but the NEXT big lie the communsit party tells them to believe.
Can you imagine the weeping, screaming, angry, hate-filled angst in every faculty lounge and professor’s closet going on in academia today?
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Anthony on March 26, 2019, 03:00:02 AM
It is election night all over again for these people.  You know what I say?  GOOD!
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Number7 on March 26, 2019, 05:59:09 AM
Can you imagine the weeping, screaming, angry, hate-filled angst in every faculty lounge and professor’s closet going on in academia today?

The level of outright insanity where President Trump is concerned is so far beyond imaginable that I wouldn’t put it past the left to start claiming that the President has the entire country under some kind of spell.

Mad Maxie will most likely be leading the charge on that one.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 26, 2019, 07:06:47 AM
I have never seen such hatred for a President in my lifetime. I can't begin to understand it. My guess, has always been it is because he is an outsider and the swamp, both sides, do not like that because he won't play the game their way.

You would think folks would be happy that unemployment is at all time lows in all sectors. We have more job openings than people to fill them currently. Wages are on the rise, manufacturing jobs are growing and coming back, something Obama said could not happen.

I just don't get it.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Lucifer on March 26, 2019, 07:20:59 AM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1110101192518950912
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: bflynn on March 26, 2019, 08:09:50 AM
I have never seen such hatred for a President in my lifetime. I can't begin to understand it. My guess, has always been it is because he is an outsider and the swamp, both sides, do not like that because he won't play the game their way.

You would think folks would be happy that unemployment is at all time lows in all sectors. We have more job openings than people to fill them currently. Wages are on the rise, manufacturing jobs are growing and coming back, something Obama said could not happen.

I just don't get it.

I have - 4 years ago.

Republicans don't want to recognize it, but a lot of the extreme craziness was exhibited by them about Obama.  Not anyone here by name, but in general I've seen a lot of the same behaviors on both sides.

Like it or don't, I'm reporting a data point.  If you choose to ignore it because it contradicts what you already know, know that provides me with another datapoint.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on March 26, 2019, 08:43:50 AM
I have - 4 years ago.

Republicans don't want to recognize it, but a lot of the extreme craziness was exhibited by them about Obama.  Not anyone here by name, but in general I've seen a lot of the same behaviors on both sides.

Like it or don't, I'm reporting a data point.  If you choose to ignore it because it contradicts what you already know, know that provides me with another datapoint.

Tell me how the deep state, federal agencies and top Republicans, nay, the entire party, tried to take out Obama. Did O operate under mainstream media defamation blitzes and faked investigations, with a continual cry from Republicans for impeachment? Was his family targeted for investigations, and everyone he did business with in the past?

Other than the fringe “birthers,” O was allowed complete freedom to operate however he chose, protected by the media, which has repeatedly admitted it was and is biased while merrily and unobstructedly continuing to be so.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Anthony on March 26, 2019, 09:23:12 AM
Obama pretty much got a free pass from the entire Media excerpt for a few radio talk shows, and a few people on Fox.  Many did not criticize him as no matter what the Democrats, and Media would call them racist.  He had it very easy, and his treatment was nothing like what Trump gets.  Nothing. 

The horrible treatment of Trump is unprecedented.  Even GWB as vilified as he was got nothing like Trump. 
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Username on March 26, 2019, 09:23:35 AM
Other than the fringe “birthers,” O was allowed complete freedom to operate however he chose, protected by the media, which has repeatedly admitted it was and is biased while merrily and unobstructedly continuing to be so.
Indeed!  The story put out by the MSM was that the few in the extreme right fringe represented all Republicans and so opposition to O was severe and violent and widespread on all of the right.  Far from it.  Republicans may not have liked it, but it was still "My president right or wrong." 

Not so different than one wacko nutcase who says he supports Trump morphs in the MSM that Trump supports all wacko nutcases.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Number7 on March 26, 2019, 09:44:19 AM
I have - 4 years ago.

Republicans don't want to recognize it, but a lot of the extreme craziness was exhibited by them about Obama.  Not anyone here by name, but in general I've seen a lot of the same behaviors on both sides.

Like it or don't, I'm reporting a data point.  If you choose to ignore it because it contradicts what you already know, know that provides me with another datapoint.

Bullshit.
You’re reporting a fantasy pushed by the communist party thru their communications directorate in the media.

Obama was a piece of shit who hated America more than liberals hate President Trump and you are falling for the bullshit mantra that anyone who dared disagree with the muslim messiah was a racist.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: NippleBoy on March 26, 2019, 09:59:52 AM
So where is Comey?  McCabe?  Brennan?

Seems awful quiet.

Maybe the perfesser would like to come tell us just what a big lie the Russian hoax really was.

Perfesser?  Azure?

Well, apparently Comey started to speak up...

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Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Lucifer on March 26, 2019, 10:12:33 AM
Well, apparently Comey started to speak up...

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 Seems Felonious is laying real low.  Also the Mocha Messiah has not been spouting off as well.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Little Joe on March 26, 2019, 11:02:59 AM
I have - 4 years ago.

Republicans don't want to recognize it, but a lot of the extreme craziness was exhibited by them about Obama.  Not anyone here by name, but in general I've seen a lot of the same behaviors on both sides.

Like it or don't, I'm reporting a data point.  If you choose to ignore it because it contradicts what you already know, know that provides me with another datapoint.
We didn't HATE Obama.  We hated his politics.  At least we didn't hate him until he started showing his true colors (and I don't mean black).  He earned our disrespect the old fashioned way. 
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: nddons on March 26, 2019, 11:05:15 AM
Tell me how the deep state, federal agencies and top Republicans, nay, the entire party, tried to take out Obama. Did O operate under mainstream media defamation blitzes and faked investigations, with a continual cry from Republicans for impeachment? Was his family targeted for investigations, and everyone he did business with in the past?

Other than the fringe “birthers,” O was allowed complete freedom to operate however he chose, protected by the media, which has repeatedly admitted it was and is biased while merrily and unobstructedly continuing to be so.
Thank you Becky. Flynn is myopic in his own perceived moderateness. When everything is equal, then nothing really matters.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: asechrest on March 26, 2019, 11:25:02 AM

The vitriol spewed at Obama was ridiculous, including attempts throughout his presidency to prove that he was not a citizen. Many on the right considered him illegitimate from the start (sound familiar?).

However, the difference between then and now is that I found the media in general was "for" Obama, and now the media is generally "against" Trump. And that makes a meaningful difference in the feel and effect of the vitriol.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Little Joe on March 26, 2019, 12:08:17 PM
The vitriol spewed at Obama was ridiculous, including attempts throughout his presidency to prove that he was not a citizen. Many on the right considered him illegitimate from the start (sound familiar?).

However, the difference between then and now is that I found the media in general was "for" Obama, and now the media is generally "against" Trump. And that makes a meaningful difference in the feel and effect of the vitriol.
Exactly.  I would change the word "meaningful" to "huge" though.

And I maintain that most of us that hated Obama, really hated his politics.  It wasn't till later that we came to despise the man and his cronies.  But Libs hated Trump from the second he beat Hillary.  They hated him before that too, but when he won that hatred shot off the chart.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Little Joe on March 26, 2019, 12:19:44 PM
I never thought I would say this, but I give Rahm Emanuel credit for his statement:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/chicago-police-superintendent-eddie-johnson-furious-at-jussie-smollett-charges-being-dropped-report

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Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel stood shoulder-to-shoulder with his city's police force Tuesday afternoon, denouncing prosecutors for dropping charges against "Empire" star Jussie Smollett and slamming the episode as a "whitewash of justice."

Chicago Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson and Emanuel said they were not only furious with the outcome of Tuesday's surprise hearing but also blindsided by the decision itself, with the officials only learning Smollett wouldn't face charges for allegedly faking a hate crime at the same time the public found out.

"Where is the accountability in the system? You cannot have – because of a person's position – one set of rules applies to them and another set of rules apply to everyone else," Emanuel said. "Our officers did hard work day in and day out, countless hours working to unwind what actually happened that night. The city saw its reputation dragged through the mud...It's not just the officers' work, but the work of the grand jury that made a decision based on only a sliver of the evidence [presented]. Because of the judge's decision, none of that evidence will ever be made public."
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Rush on March 26, 2019, 12:23:13 PM
The vitriol spewed at Obama was ridiculous, including attempts throughout his presidency to prove that he was not a citizen. Many on the right considered him illegitimate from the start (sound familiar?).

However, the difference between then and now is that I found the media in general was "for" Obama, and now the media is generally "against" Trump. And that makes a meaningful difference in the feel and effect of the vitriol.

True and also the difference is that to my knowledge there was no widespread organized sustained attack at high levels in multiple agencies going after Obama and multiple associates of Obama’s in an attempt to undo his legitimate election. There may have been a few calls to investigate his birth, but absolutely nothing like the deep and widespread and ongoing coordinated attacks against Trump and anyone in his sphere.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: nddons on March 26, 2019, 12:39:38 PM
The vitriol spewed at Obama was ridiculous, including attempts throughout his presidency to prove that he was not a citizen. Many on the right considered him illegitimate from the start (sound familiar?).

However, the difference between then and now is that I found the media in general was "for" Obama, and now the media is generally "against" Trump. And that makes a meaningful difference in the feel and effect of the vitriol.
Well, that, as well as using the levers of the most powerful law enforcement organization in the country to work to unseat a sitting president or irreparably damage him on what is now known to be an utter and complete lie.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Anthony on March 26, 2019, 12:49:02 PM
Exactly.  I would change the word "meaningful" to "huge" though.

And I maintain that most of us that hated Obama, really hated his politics.  It wasn't till later that we came to despise the man and his cronies.  But Libs hated Trump from the second he beat Hillary.  They hated him before that too, but when he won that hatred shot off the chart.

I hated Obama's policies, politics, and his commie, racist, divisive rhetoric.  I couldn't have cared less about him as a person. 
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on March 26, 2019, 01:55:50 PM
The vitriol spewed at Obama was ridiculous, including attempts throughout his presidency to prove that he was not a citizen. Many on the right considered him illegitimate from the start (sound familiar?).

However, the difference between then and now is that I found the media in general was "for" Obama, and now the media is generally "against" Trump. And that makes a meaningful difference in the feel and effect of the vitriol.
I absolutely disagree. Conservatives were straitjacketed when it came to letting their true feelings about Obama’s policies, rhetoric and performance show. We all know by now that all such expressions were cut off by the cry of racism.

Trump is hated by the left, I think, not as much because of the media but because the left itself is projecting onto him, undeservedly, all the characteristics in themselves that they despise. Leftists have to have someone to hate, while at the same time accusing others wrongly of it. Leftists are obsessed with and consumed by their own racism, while accusing others of it wrongly.

Conservatives were, as clearly can be seen now, rightly alarmed by Obama.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: bflynn on March 26, 2019, 06:48:19 PM
Tell me how the deep state, federal agencies and top Republicans, nay, the entire party, tried to take out Obama. Did O operate under mainstream media defamation blitzes and faked investigations, with a continual cry from Republicans for impeachment? Was his family targeted for investigations, and everyone he did business with in the past?

Other than the fringe “birthers,” O was allowed complete freedom to operate however he chose, protected by the media, which has repeatedly admitted it was and is biased while merrily and unobstructedly continuing to be so.

It hasn’t, but that wasn’t what I said.

Republicans HATED Obama. Go back 4-8 years ago on Facebook and read what was said about him. You might ashamed or you might be proud. Either way, what is said today is much the same, but on the other side.

Convince yourself now that you were above it...after all I didn’t name any names here. But quite a few people self identified themselves.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Number7 on March 26, 2019, 06:59:03 PM
It hasn’t, but that wasn’t what I said.

Republicans HATED Obama. Go back 4-8 years ago on Facebook and read what was said about him. You might ashamed or you might be proud. Either way, what is said today is much the same, but on the other side.

Convince yourself now that you were above it...after all I didn’t name any names here. But quite a few people self identified themselves.

You whine like an 18 year old, coed, just trying on progressive (communist) policies for the first time.

Nothing you claim about the eight years of obama holds a candle to the treason, violence, hatred, racism and lies of the
last two years, and no amount of projection on your part will make it so.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on March 26, 2019, 11:41:59 PM
Ha, I love it ... “Collusion Truther”  ;D

https://mobile.twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1110650193744220167
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Anthony on March 27, 2019, 03:33:46 AM
Again, I hated Obama's POLICIES and POLITICS.  Not the "man.". I am sure some people hated Obama, the man.  However, the big difference is the MEDIA is leading the Trump hate with Democrats, and their FUNDERS.  It is a huge difference when you have the Media, financial backers, (Media Matters, unions, etc) preaching Trump HATRED 24/7.

Trump hate is much larger than Obama hate ever was.  It is acceptable today to HATE old White guys.  Ask Joe Biden. 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-biden-on-anita-hill-she-paid-a-terrible-price-when-she-testified-before-a-bunch-of-white-guys/
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: bflynn on March 28, 2019, 10:38:26 AM
Ha, I love it ... “Collusion Truther”  ;D

This is the Left's "Birther" moment.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on March 29, 2019, 06:43:48 AM
A number of articles lately about the results of the investigation being known far earlier than this week, and the delay in releasing them. Dem candidates used the suggestion of “Trump, collusion, Russia ” when campaigning for the 2018 midterms, to great success.

When it comes to “affecting elections” illegally, one group stands out: Democrats.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/andrew-mccarthy-how-long-has-mueller-known-there-was-no-trump-russia-collusion

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In order to get the FISA warrants, the Justice Department and the FBI had had to allege that there was probable cause to believe former Trump adviser Carter Page was an agent of Russia. Under FISA law, that requires alleging that he was knowingly involved in clandestine activity on behalf of Russia, and that this clandestine activity involved probable violations of American criminal law – offenses such as espionage. Yet, despite the fact that this representation was made four times in sworn “verified” applications, Mueller never charged Page with a crime – not espionage, not false statements, nothing.

When Special Counsel Mueller closed his investigation last week, he almost certainly knew for about a year and a half that there was no collusion case. Indeed, the indictments that he did bring appeared to preclude the possibility that the Trump campaign conspired with the Kremlin.

Yet the investigation continued. The Justice Department and the special counsel made no announcement, no interim finding of no collusion, as Trump detractors continued to claim that a sitting American president might be a tool of the Putin regime. For month after month, the president was forced to govern under a cloud of suspicion.

Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: jb1842 on March 29, 2019, 09:21:16 AM
It's getting better and better....

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/rachel-maddows-suffer-after-mueller-report-determined-no-collusion
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Anthony on March 29, 2019, 09:56:50 AM
CNN, MSNBC, the networks, NYT, Washpo and others hung their collective hats on the Russia hoax.  Now they have even further exposed themselves as the purveyors of LIES.  It should hurt them. 
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Lucifer on March 29, 2019, 10:04:03 AM
CNN, MSNBC, the networks, NYT, Washpo and others hung their collective hats on the Russia hoax.  Now they have even further exposed themselves as the purveyors of LIES.  It should hurt them.

 It should, but it won't.

 The deranged left will still believe any garbage they spew out.  The new developing narrative is that AG Barr is hiding something, that's why he hasn't released the entire report.   Progressives want the entire report because?  Well, because they know the average leftist won't bother to read it, and the MSM can go through and cherry pick sentences and phrases, then twist into a new narrative, aka "soundbite".   Progressives love those tasty soundbites because it requires no knowledge and no reading to find out the truth.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on March 31, 2019, 07:26:38 AM
Good morning!  :)

https://mobile.twitter.com/GOP/status/1110276908401520641 :o
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Anthony on March 31, 2019, 07:42:21 AM
It should, but it won't.

 The deranged left will still believe any garbage they spew out.  The new developing narrative is that AG Barr is hiding something, that's why he hasn't released the entire report.   Progressives want the entire report because?  Well, because they know the average leftist won't bother to read it, and the MSM can go through and cherry pick sentences and phrases, then twist into a new narrative, aka "soundbite".   Progressives love those tasty soundbites because it requires no knowledge and no reading to find out the truth.

Well some of it is classified, and has never been released in past investigations.  Of course the Media won't tell you that fact, and will, as you say, twist that and anything else to fit their narrative. 

I'm waiting for the backlash against the Progressive movement, and the Democrats, but it never seems to come as the Media defends them with outright LIES, and lies by omission.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Rush on March 31, 2019, 09:20:51 AM
Good morning!  :)

https://mobile.twitter.com/GOP/status/1110276908401520641 :o

That made me smile. I needed it.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Lucifer on April 04, 2019, 03:58:11 PM
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Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Lucifer on April 04, 2019, 03:59:36 PM
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Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Lucifer on April 05, 2019, 08:37:09 AM
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Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Lucifer on April 11, 2019, 05:37:24 AM
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Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Anthony on April 11, 2019, 06:06:00 AM
The Democrats are in melt down mode as is the Media over the Russia hoax failure.  They are desperately trying to come up with something (anything) they can use against Trump.  They are failing. 
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Lucifer on April 11, 2019, 06:21:06 AM
They never figured it would come to this.  BHO, Clinton, Clapper, Brennan, Comey and the stooges at the FBI/DoJ all thought they would have Trump gone before they could be discovered.   They all believed they could use the power of their offices and connections to evade their undermining.

 If these people are not prosecuted for their crimes, and if changes aren't made to prevent this again, you can bet anytime someone the leftist disagree with gets elected it will start all over.  And they have learned from their mistakes.

 Watergate was a grade school prank compared to what these people did.  And people went to prison for Watergate.
Title: Re: Mueller Investigation........Put a Fork In It
Post by: Username on April 11, 2019, 07:12:34 AM
The Democrats are in melt down mode as is the Media over the Russia hoax failure.  They are desperately trying to come up with something (anything) they can use against Trump.  They are failing.
I think their biggest problem is that Mueller actually did his job.  If there was anything to find, I'm sure he would have found it.  It's made worse by them heaping praise on him early on, saying how wonderful and honest he is.  And now..... nothing.  They can't turn around and say he was an administration stooge.  Doesn't keep them from trying, though.

I get the image of Wile E Coyote having just run off a cliff pedaling wildly after realizing that there's nothing under him.