PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on June 30, 2017, 10:53:52 AM
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/30/dem-state-officials-refusing-to-cooperate-with-trump-voter-fraud-probe.html
Democratic state officials already are refusing to cooperate with the voter fraud investigation ordered by President Trump, saying they will not hand over the extensive “voter roll data” the commission is seeking.
The response comes after Kris Kobach, the Kansas secretary of state serving as vice chair of the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity, wrote to all 50 states this week asking for their input as well as voter registration data.
“I have no intention of honoring this request. Virginia conducts fair, honest, and democratic elections, and there is no evidence of significant voter fraud in Virginia,” Virginia Democratic Gov. Terry McAuliffe countered in a statement Thursday, claiming the commission is based on the “specious and false notion that there was widespread voter fraud last November.”
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I guess hiding your crimes is better than allowing for the world to see and debunk the democrat cesspool of lies about democrat vote fraud.
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This crap needs to stop.
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I say hand the data over, and let's see who's right about the whole thing.
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I say hand the data over, and let's see who's right about the whole thing.
Wasn't a Democrat operative just convicted of voter fraud?
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Wasn't a Democrat operative just convicted of voter fraud?
But we're told repeatedly that it's just random and so small it doesn't make a difference.
Funny how when the blue states are told "OK,then let's see the records and clear this up", and they run for cover.
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Was it really only democrat officials that rejected Trump's voter probe? I thought a majority of states were under republican rule, or am I mistaken?
Some of the reasons for rejection seemed to revolve around identity protection and possible voter suppression/intimidation.
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Funny how when the blue states are told "OK,then let's see the records and clear this up", and they run for cover.
But that's not how I heard it explained on CNN.
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Was it really only democrat officials that rejected Trump's voter probe? I thought a majority of states were under republican rule, or am I mistaken?
Some of the reasons for rejection seemed to revolve around identity protection and possible voter suppression/intimidation.
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See post 1
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But that's not how I heard it explained on CNN.
Of course not. ::)
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Was it really only democrat officials that rejected Trump's voter probe? I thought a majority of states were under republican rule, or am I mistaken?
Some of the reasons for rejection seemed to revolve around identity protection and possible voter suppression/intimidation.
That is certainly my understanding. Last I heard it was 25 states refusing to comply, in several cases because state statutes forbade it. It is not just democratic officials either; Mississippi's Republican secretary of state had some choice words about the request.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/07/01/at_least_half_the_states_refuse_to_hand_over_data_to_trump_s_voter_fraud.html (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/07/01/at_least_half_the_states_refuse_to_hand_over_data_to_trump_s_voter_fraud.html)
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Voting is private in our Constitution.
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They are not asking how you voted, just whether you are eligible to vote. Voter rolls are public information, I don't understand the problem here.
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Elections are state by state affairs. I'm not sure the Federal government has an involvement.
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Elections are state by state affairs. I'm not sure the Federal government has an involvement.
This is true as there is no such thing as voting in a federal election. All votes are at the state level, and this is why we have the electoral college.
But if a state is letting their voting be compromised, should we let them participate in the electoral college?
Furthermore, what's the problem here? We have long heard there is no widespread voter fraud. Here is an opportunity to settle this. One would think both sides of the aisle would be for this.
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This is true as there is no such thing as voting in a federal election. All votes are at the state level, and this is why we have the electoral college.
But if a state is letting their voting be compromised, should we let them participate in the electoral college?
Furthermore, what's the problem here? We have long heard there is no widespread voter fraud. Here is an opportunity to settle this. One would think both sides of the aisle would be for this.
Fraud across state lines? There were many stories of busloads of voters from Mass showing up in NH, registering and voting during the 2008 elections.
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Fraud across state lines? There were many stories of busloads of voters from Mass showing up in NH, registering and voting during the 2008 elections.
Yep, and this would help clear up if this actually happened or not.
Again, I can't see the reason either side would be opposed to this investigation.
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Again, I can't see the reason either side would be opposed to this investigation.
Complicity?
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Complicity?
Ya think?
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Elections are state by state affairs. I'm not sure the Federal government has an involvement.
I agree that elections are state affairs. But if the results of those elections are going to be used to elect the President of the United States, then the people of the United States (should) have the right to know that those elections are fair and legal. Verifying that all voters are eligible to vote (according to their states rules) should be a partisan, or states rights issue.
edit: I meant to say "shouldn't be partisan..."
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The lefties refusing to disclose voter ID info already know their states cover up fraud and have no recourse except to lie and evade.
Kind of like Hilary Clinton, Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, CNN, the hags on the view, NBC, Susan Rice...
They all have the sane things in common, the truth is their bitter enemy.
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I agree that elections are state affairs. But if the results of those elections are going to be used to elect the President of the United States, then the people of the United States (should) have the right to know that those elections are fair and legal. Verifying that all voters are eligible to vote (according to their states rules) should be a partisan, or states rights issue.
edit: I meant to say "shouldn't be partisan..."
Fair enough. I do support the investigation. As mentioned, elections are state affairs. If a state has it's own rules on what information is public knowledge, they should release that information in accordance with their own laws.
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I see that insane Maxine Waters who fights against voter ID laws, requires those attending her events to show their ID to prove they are in her district and by looking at their voter ID data base they screen out potential Trump supporters who ask uncomfortable questions and demand answers.