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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Anthony on February 05, 2019, 08:51:05 AM

Title: Colorado latest to join the elimination of the Electoral Colleg pact
Post by: Anthony on February 05, 2019, 08:51:05 AM
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The Democratic-majority Colorado state Senate passed a bill this week that would give the state’s electoral votes in presidential elections to the candidate who wins the popular vote instead of the Electoral College.
Colorado’s Senate passed the bill in a 19-16 vote Tuesday along party lines.
The bill would mandate that the state’s members of the Electoral College vote for the presidential candidate who wins the popular vote.


So Colorado, my former home, has now proven itself to be full retard.  I saw it going Blue when I lived there.  The progressives on the Front Range, most transplants from Commie states like CA now control the entire state like many states today controlled by their large population center metro areas (city butbs, ex burbs)


They've joined eleven other states that have passed this unconstitutonal law. 

Signatories

 Maryland
 New Jersey
 Illinois
 Hawaii
 Washington
 Massachusetts
 District of Columbia
 Vermont
 California
 Rhode Island
 New York
 Connecticut
 Maine

The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (NPVIC) is an agreement among a group of U.S. states and the District of Columbia to award all their electoral votes to whichever presidential candidate wins the overall popular vote in the 50 states and the District of Columbia. The compact is designed to ensure that the candidate who wins the most popular votes is elected president, and it would come into effect only when it would guarantee that outcome.[2][3] As of January 2019, it has been adopted by eleven states and the District of Columbia. Together, they have 172 electoral votes, which is 32.0% of the Electoral College and 63.7% of the votes needed to give the compact legal force.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/02/02/colorado-senate-passes-bill-nixing-electoral-college-in-favor-of-popular-vote/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact
Title: Re: Colorado latest to join the elimination of the Electoral Colleg pact
Post by: Little Joe on February 05, 2019, 08:55:34 AM
I think it would be hilarious if the Dems were able to eliminate the EC, then Trump beats them in the popular vote in 2020.
Title: Re: Colorado latest to join the elimination of the Electoral Colleg pact
Post by: Lucifer on February 05, 2019, 08:56:53 AM
One would have to think, it would be hilarious if the first election decided after this was implemented was a democrat with what should be the winning number of electoral votes, but a republican gets more popular votes.
Title: Re: Colorado latest to join the elimination of the Electoral Colleg pact
Post by: Anthony on February 05, 2019, 09:03:35 AM
This is an obvious end run around the Constitution.  I would think it will eventually get to the Supreme Court, and be struck down. 
Title: Re: Colorado latest to join the elimination of the Electoral Colleg pact
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on February 05, 2019, 09:31:26 AM
All Deep Blue.  If we hadn't seen enough evidence of the left's raw, drooling, power-grubbing lashouts, this would be shocking.  They must be confident they can import enough illegals and immigrants to replace their own dead babies.  I have no confidence the current SCOTUS will act against this.

Another sleepless night ahead for me.
Title: Re: Colorado latest to join the elimination of the Electoral Colleg pact
Post by: nddons on February 05, 2019, 09:37:06 AM
I never understand suicide pacts, whether personal or in this case electoral. They are handing their EVs to California. It will mean nothing to vote in any of these states. Maine is the latest I think.

This idiocy will continue until this scenario happens:  Dems nominate a batshit crazy for president. Normal, middle of the road people (or classic liberals) will realize socialism isn’t the way to go.  They will conclude that better to vote for the devil you know (Trump) vs the devil you don’t know.  Trump will win the popular vote, and all these states’ electoral votes, including California, will go to Trump. This interstate compact will end in a nanosecond after that happens.

Don’t think that’s possible?  In 1982-1984 Ronald Reagan was so vilified by the democrats, marginalized by the press, and ridiculed by the public that a win by Mondale was a slam dunk. But the real people, the voters, had a different idea. Reagan won 59% of the popular vote with a 16,900,000 PV margin, and 525-13 electoral votes. The people spoke.
Title: Re: Colorado latest to join the elimination of the Electoral Colleg pact
Post by: Anthony on February 05, 2019, 10:16:53 AM
Yes, thanks Stan.  I added Maine to the list I posted.  Why would the citizens of these states be OK with this?  What are they thinking?  Yes, all these states that did this are majority Democrat, but still. 
Title: Re: Colorado latest to join the elimination of the Electoral Colleg pact
Post by: Rush on February 05, 2019, 10:19:45 AM
All Deep Blue.  If we hadn't seen enough evidence of the left's raw, drooling, power-grubbing lashouts, this would be shocking.  They must be confident they can import enough illegals and immigrants to replace their own dead babies.  I have no confidence the current SCOTUS will act against this.

Another sleepless night ahead for me.

I wonder if looser abortion laws result in more Democrats aborting babies or not?  I did read somewhere that abortions don't actually result in less children, they result in women having later children.  So the welfare moms that push out a bunch for extra checks (and voting Democrat, if they vote at all) aren't the ones having abortions.

So if I don't want my 2.5 kids in my early 20s and get an abortion, then have my 2.5 kids in my early 30s, I am not having the same individual children. Each child is unique. I don't understand a woman ending the life of their unique child before it's even born.  I get the idea people mistakenly think they're putting THAT child on hold til a later date, but they aren't. They'll never get that particular child back. Each baby is a random unique recombination of genes.
Title: Re: Colorado latest to join the elimination of the Electoral Colleg pact
Post by: Anthony on February 05, 2019, 10:59:26 AM
With all the low cost birth control alternatives available including the Morning After Pill, why is abortion even relevant today unless there are health issues with either the Mother, or the Fetus?  Is it just pure human stupidity, laziness, irresponsibility? 
Title: Re: Colorado latest to join the elimination of the Electoral Colleg pact
Post by: bflynn on February 05, 2019, 11:16:47 AM
It isn’t like a Republican will ever win those states.

But if they did and the state gave the EVs away, seems like a great way to trigger a Constituinal crisis.
Title: Re: Colorado latest to join the elimination of the Electoral Colleg pact
Post by: Rush on February 05, 2019, 11:44:24 AM
With all the low cost birth control alternatives available including the Morning After Pill, why is abortion even relevant today unless there are health issues with either the Mother, or the Fetus?  Is it just pure human stupidity, laziness, irresponsibility?

Birth control has a high failure rate, relatively speaking.  My first pregnancy resulted despite us using two forms of birth control. But we were going to quit the BC and start trying for a baby the very next month anyway.
Title: Re: Colorado latest to join the elimination of the Electoral Colleg pact
Post by: Anthony on February 05, 2019, 12:04:26 PM
Birth control has a high failure rate, relatively speaking.  My first pregnancy resulted despite us using two forms of birth control. But we were going to quit the BC and start trying for a baby the very next month anyway.

Really?  I thought "the pill" was very reliable as are condoms.  I don't know much about the other forms. 
Title: Re: Colorado latest to join the elimination of the Electoral Colleg pact
Post by: Username on February 05, 2019, 12:44:31 PM
Really?  I thought "the pill" was very reliable as are condoms.  I don't know much about the other forms.
The pill is 91% reliable.  Condoms are 82% reliable.  What's amazing is when you examine success over time.  Using the pill, 20 events at 91% reliable gets you down to 15% reliable.  20 events at 82% gets you to 2% overall.  On the other hand, abstinence is 100% reliable.
Title: Re: Colorado latest to join the elimination of the Electoral Colleg pact
Post by: Anthony on February 05, 2019, 12:46:03 PM
The pill is 91% reliable.  Condoms are 82% reliable.  What's amazing is when you examine success over time.  Using the pill, 20 events at 91% reliable gets you down to 15% reliable.  20 events at 82% gets you to 2% overall.  On the other hand, abstinence is 100% reliable.

How about pulling out?  :)

Those number are scary.  Guess I've been lucky.  lol!
Title: Re: Colorado latest to join the elimination of the Electoral Colleg pact
Post by: Lucifer on February 05, 2019, 12:49:35 PM
How about pulling out?  :)

Those number are scary.  Guess I've been lucky.  lol!

 Know what you call people who use the withdrawal method?


 Parents.    ;D
Title: Re: Colorado latest to join the elimination of the Electoral Colleg pact
Post by: Username on February 05, 2019, 12:53:02 PM
How about pulling out?  :)

Those number are scary.  Guess I've been lucky.  lol!
78%
No kidding about scary.  That's why once my wife and I were sure, we went for the permanent solution.
Title: Re: Colorado latest to join the elimination of the Electoral Colleg pact
Post by: Little Joe on February 05, 2019, 01:12:19 PM
How about pulling out?  :)

Those number are scary.  Guess I've been lucky.  lol!
Lucky?  Or sterile?  A friend of mine lamented that after years of being careful they finally determined it was time.   They tried and tried.  They finally found out that BOTH of them were sterile.  So they adopted.  But they are still trying.  They have come to the conclusion that trying to make a baby is actually more fun than having one.
Title: Re: Colorado latest to join the elimination of the Electoral Colleg pact
Post by: Anthony on February 05, 2019, 01:23:56 PM
Lucky?  Or sterile?  A friend of mine lamented that after years of being careful they finally determined it was time.   They tried and tried.  They finally found out that BOTH of them were sterile.  So they adopted.  But they are still trying.  They have come to the conclusion that trying to make a baby is actually more fun than having one.

Good question.  I've never tried to have children, nor have had children by accident, or any other way, so I really don't know.  And because of that never needed to get tested. 

Funny story.  I had friends who for years tried to have kids, and couldn't so they adopted.  Right after they adopted, she got pregnant.  Go figure!



Title: Re: Colorado latest to join the elimination of the Electoral Colleg pact
Post by: jb1842 on February 05, 2019, 03:07:32 PM
Multiple miscarriages and failed fertility treatments. One month after we said we were done trying, pregnant.
Title: Re: Colorado latest to join the elimination of the Electoral Colleg pact
Post by: Number7 on February 05, 2019, 06:11:20 PM
Multiple miscarriages and failed fertility treatments. One month after we said we were done trying, pregnant.

The best way for sterile women to become pregnant is to give up and stop worrying about it, or adopt and see how fast the discover they're expecting.