PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Jaybird180 on October 28, 2021, 06:18:53 AM
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I just recently learned the word, transagression. Apparently, one can put two words together and make a new word that requires cultural context to really know what it means. Whodathunkit.
Wondering what the in-crowd over at Pilotspin is saying about Chappelle's latest Netflix special, The Closer- I ran a search and to my aghast there wasn't anything.
I'm a Chappelle fan, but have to admit it wasn't until controversy was enflamed, did I actually watch the thing. I was busy binge watching Better Call Saul, the spin-off from Breaking Bad, but that's another post, maybe.
Here's an article about The Closer. I warn you that it reveals a lot about the show and the jokes, and it provides some context. I'm in agreement- there should not have been any controversy, except for those that purposely wanted to skew Dave's jokes to make the proverbial "mountain out of a molehill". IMO, they got more people to see it than otherwise might have. I wonder what form of mental derangement is that in the DSM?
Here's the article (https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/10/the-dave-chappelle-problem-is-worse-than-you-think/?fb_news_token=BEfZ%2BnRncQOAEWcTeOnMIg%3D%3D.9SXD6xbmrBisjhbfgKCXHxBjMlMbPNB7ryyezB3SEshakSqSSA9deRhCnWNhIkgsqGVYu%2FOfA5vZ9PtJG%2FHT8kcUU9J2GbjEkNEQIRaPJnLhrlMMOF%2BjoArB1LZEr%2B2%2FXnqBEkO10HFO3%2BvANHz3EPPyx5HmYIxqYuFALpB5%2F6GZO4P%2F5gjVmvvRu40e86xpqV3P3iyns77Iit9o2pT%2B2lQn9pP2f7VQ1h7tdIX8jcU2m6fIxVjHm%2BVW9M7j4kWiBZ4q0Ft78AL9jp5LXe0WGSG6au%2BxytnlP8H3BtBRTNjS%2FrsDpy0YO5YGxQNJUV9M15tWzf02h0sNHzgiGTl4fQ%3D%3D)
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Here's an article about The Closer. I warn you that it reveals a lot about the show and the jokes,
Are you saying it has spoilers? Maybe I should watch the show first.
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Yes, watch the show first. it's only 72 mins which includes opening and closing credits.
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The tendency of the hollyweird crowd to make stuff up to get attention is quite well developed.
My reaction is: who cares?
If people are butt hurt because they don't like a joke, the real problem is between their ears.
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Wow! I laughed almost all the way through. He doesn’t like new gays, he likes Stonewall and glory hole gays, SO TRUE THAT IS ME! ROTFLMAO! I won’t spoil the end for those who haven’t watched it but I related totally to that last story because I had a similar friend. I like him a lot, tells it like it is no holds barred. Love it.
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I just recently learned the word, transagression. Apparently, one can put two words together and make a new word that requires cultural context to really know what it means. Whodathunkit.
Wondering what the in-crowd over at Pilotspin is saying about Chappelle's latest Netflix special, The Closer- I ran a search and to my aghast there wasn't anything.
I'm a Chappelle fan, but have to admit it wasn't until controversy was enflamed, did I actually watch the thing. I was busy binge watching Better Call Saul, the spin-off from Breaking Bad, but that's another post, maybe.
Here's an article about The Closer. I warn you that it reveals a lot about the show and the jokes, and it provides some context. I'm in agreement- there should not have been any controversy, except for those that purposely wanted to skew Dave's jokes to make the proverbial "mountain out of a molehill". IMO, they got more people to see it than otherwise might have. I wonder what form of mental derangement is that in the DSM?
Here's the article (https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/10/the-dave-chappelle-problem-is-worse-than-you-think/?fb_news_token=BEfZ%2BnRncQOAEWcTeOnMIg%3D%3D.9SXD6xbmrBisjhbfgKCXHxBjMlMbPNB7ryyezB3SEshakSqSSA9deRhCnWNhIkgsqGVYu%2FOfA5vZ9PtJG%2FHT8kcUU9J2GbjEkNEQIRaPJnLhrlMMOF%2BjoArB1LZEr%2B2%2FXnqBEkO10HFO3%2BvANHz3EPPyx5HmYIxqYuFALpB5%2F6GZO4P%2F5gjVmvvRu40e86xpqV3P3iyns77Iit9o2pT%2B2lQn9pP2f7VQ1h7tdIX8jcU2m6fIxVjHm%2BVW9M7j4kWiBZ4q0Ft78AL9jp5LXe0WGSG6au%2BxytnlP8H3BtBRTNjS%2FrsDpy0YO5YGxQNJUV9M15tWzf02h0sNHzgiGTl4fQ%3D%3D)
I agree with you and the article.
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Wow! I laughed almost all the way through. He doesn’t like new gays, he likes Stonewall and glory hole gays, SO TRUE THAT IS ME! ROTFLMAO! I won’t spoil the end for those who haven’t watched it but I related totally to that last story because I had a similar friend. I like him a lot, tells it like it is no holds barred. Love it.
Maybe I need to give him another try. Live I wasn't impressed.
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https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2021/11/09/exclusive-amanda-milius-russia-hoax-was-the-blueprint-for-how-they-lie-to-us/ (https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2021/11/09/exclusive-amanda-milius-russia-hoax-was-the-blueprint-for-how-they-lie-to-us/)
Milius warned conservatives against embracing left-wing comedian Dave Chappelle on a political level. Political desperation among conservatives for celebrities to resist “woke” ideology leads them to clutch at figures like Chappelle, she said.
“[When I saw] conservatives flocking to [Dave Chapelle], I had a weird feeling,” she recalled. “I had a funny feeling about it. I didn’t really like it after having seen [his] special, and I’m a big fan of his. I say this as somebody who is a big fan of his comedy. I actually love all his stuff; however, conservatives are so excited to have any celebrity on their side that they’re like, ‘I believe in this entire thing wholeheartedly, and he needs my support.'”
She concluded, “The entire special is about how he hates white people. It’s literally him pleading with the woke audience not to cancel him. The whole special is about his fixation on being careful for the LGBT stuff, so it’s not exactly the savior of conservative values. … We just get so excited over somebody who’s doing something kind of sane. …He’s not on our side. He hates Trump voters. He hates Republicans, [and] pretty much says he hates white people.”
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https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2021/11/09/exclusive-amanda-milius-russia-hoax-was-the-blueprint-for-how-they-lie-to-us/ (https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2021/11/09/exclusive-amanda-milius-russia-hoax-was-the-blueprint-for-how-they-lie-to-us/)
For me the bottom line is: do you or do you not believe in economic freedom? Do you believe individuals have a right to work for a wage or have a business and keep what they earn? Or do you believe in redistribution of wealth through taxes, reparations, socialism or any other means? (All of which require forcible confiscation of your private property.)
No matter your politics on any other issue, that’s the dividing line for me. And I did glean from Chappell that he is the latter, but he didn’t come out and say so at least in the Closer. Doesn’t make me less happy with his resistance to woke. But I’m not going to assume he is “on my side”.
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Chappelle said that he voted for Hillary "with a lump in his throat" (I believe is the exact words he used) and "it didn't feel as good as it should have", but also said that he understood that poor Whites didn't understand that Trump's economic policies benefitted him as a rich man, which he celebrated, to the detriment of those same poor Whites who voted for him.
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Chappelle said that he voted for Hillary "with a lump in his throat" (I believe is the exact words he used) and "it didn't feel as good as it should have", but also said that he understood that poor Whites didn't understand that Trump's economic policies benefitted him as a rich man, which he celebrated, to the detriment of those same poor Whites who voted for him.
Which is TOTALLY FALSE. Trump's Economic policies helped to enable the LOWEST BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT in HISTORY and lowest overall unemployment rate for all. His Energy Policy crated lower Energy Costs for everyone including the POOR which gave them more money to spend on other essentials. His Economic Policy also enabled LOW INFLATION which gives the POOR more to spend on everything.
I could go on and on, but Trump benefited ALL AMERICANS, not just the rich. Obama on the other hand......benefited his WALL STREET and CORPORATE CRONIES.
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I didn't say if it was accurate or not, that's the subject of debate all over this entire website. All I intended to provide is what Dave said. Nothing more.
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With respect to the above, I do not accept the notion that we really see a needle move in certain markets based on a sitting President. I believe that these market indicators lag Executive action, possibly taking several years to materialize. I believe employment is one of them.
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With respect to the above, I do not accept the notion that we really see a needle move in certain markets based on a sitting President. I believe that these market indicators lag Executive action, possibly taking several years to materialize. I believe employment is one of them.
In some ways you are right. I used this exact argument on my brother when he argued some sitting president was doing something and I argued it was the lag effect of the previous administration.
You are right, there is a lot of lag but there are many different influences, some lag but there are other ways effect is immediate. For example, Biden canceling Keystone had an immediate impact on jobs and on oil prices. It wasn’t the only thing influencing them but what influence it was, was immediate. Likewise Trump’s support for U.S. oil had an impact during his administration as did his tax cuts. Other things have a long term slow building effect, such as Medicare, a long term cause of massive healthcare cost increases. The economy is very complex.
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In some ways you are right. I used this exact argument on my brother when he argued some sitting president was doing something and I argued it was the lag effect of the previous administration.
You are right, there is a lot of lag but there are many different influences, some lag but there are other ways effect is immediate. For example, Biden canceling Keystone had an immediate impact on jobs and on oil prices. It wasn’t the only thing influencing them but what influence it was, was immediate. Likewise Trump’s support for U.S. oil had an impact during his administration as did his tax cuts. Other things have a long term slow building effect, such as Medicare, a long term cause of massive healthcare cost increases. The economy is very complex.
My tax advisor has for several years lamented in a way that I will summarize from what a mentor often said "What the big print giveth, the small print taketh away."
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In some ways you are right. I used this exact argument on my brother when he argued some sitting president was doing something and I argued it was the lag effect of the previous administration.
You are right, there is a lot of lag but there are many different influences, some lag but there are other ways effect is immediate. For example, Biden canceling Keystone had an immediate impact on jobs and on oil prices. It wasn’t the only thing influencing them but what influence it was, was immediate. Likewise Trump’s support for U.S. oil had an impact during his administration as did his tax cuts. Other things have a long term slow building effect, such as Medicare, a long term cause of massive healthcare cost increases. The economy is very complex.
The Biden Administration green lighted companies to start sending manufacturing back over to China and abroad. Increasing business regulation also impacts jobs and the economy. Increasing tax rates on corporations also adds to a decreased economy.
The constant attacks on the working class sent helping either.
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My tax advisor has for several years lamented in a way that I will summarize from what a mentor often said "What the big print giveth, the small print taketh away."
Good saying. Speaking of small print, how about that huge build back better bill that the Congress critters won’t read before signing? There’s a lot of fine print in there.
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The Biden Administration green lighted companies to start sending manufacturing back over to China and abroad. Increasing business regulation also impacts jobs and the economy. Increasing tax rates on corporations also adds to a decreased economy.
The constant attacks on the working class sent helping either.
What makes a company desire to move their company overseas? It isn't for convenience. It's the word: Profit.
How did Trump (presumably) make these same companies operate here? Penalties.
No patriotic American would send their manufacturing to China unless Profit was at issue. You want to address anything, POTUS cannot control those economics when labor and other costs exceed the import tax and fees. Look at what's happening off the coast of Los Angeles. You think those prices are going up? Supply and Demand.
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What makes a company desire to move their company overseas? It isn't for convenience. It's the word: Profit.
How did Trump (presumably) make these same companies operate here? Penalties.
No patriotic American would send their manufacturing to China unless Profit was at issue. You want to address anything, POTUS cannot control those economics when labor and other costs exceed the import tax and fees. Look at what's happening off the coast of Los Angeles. You think those prices are going up? Supply and Demand.
Our supply chain is at the mercy of a communist country. A communist country who charges tariffs on our goods going to them but cries foul if we charge tariffs on their goods.
If you even the playing field on trade, our dependence on China drops considerably. Our former President realized that. The CCP hated it.
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Our supply chain is at the mercy of a communist country. A communist country who charges tariffs on our goods going to them but cries foul if we charge tariffs on their goods.
If you even the playing field on trade, our dependence on China drops considerably. Our former President realized that. The CCP hated it.
We could not execute WW-II again today because 1) we do not have the industrial capacity to produce a 7000 ship navy and 2) we do not have the manufacturing capacity to produce everything our military needs. As a matter of national security, the military needs to do a deep supply chain analysis and make sure every component needed is made onshore. Otherwise, we will have the biggest broken military in the world.
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We could not execute WW-II again today because 1) we do not have the industrial capacity to produce a 7000 ship navy and 2) we do not have the manufacturing capacity to produce everything our military needs. As a matter of national security, the military needs to do a deep supply chain analysis and make sure every component needed is made onshore. Otherwise, we will have the biggest broken military in the world.
Are you sure that's not just propaganda? I have some contacts in acquisition. I'll get back to you on that.
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The short of our conversation: while your claim employs sensationalism, it drives a truth home that there are American supply chain issues that could impact national security.
https://www.gao.gov/products/105519
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Our supply chain is at the mercy of a communist country. A communist country who charges tariffs on our goods going to them but cries foul if we charge tariffs on their goods.
If you even the playing field on trade, our dependence on China drops considerably. Our former President realized that. The CCP hated it.
Funny, when Trump imposed tariffs on Chinese goods, there were no empty shelves and 6% inflation.
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The short of our conversation: while your claim employs sensationalism, it drives a truth home that there are American supply chain issues that could impact national security.
https://www.gao.gov/products/105519
This is surface level. You can claim all your suppliers are in the US, but if their suppliers use a factory overseas to produce even a single part, then your product can be stopped by a supply chain issue. With most products, it isn’t a single part.
This is the “deep” part of deep supply chain. People are clueing into this right now because of the bottlenecks at ports. Manufacturing lines have shut down because car makers cannot get computer chips, which are made almost exclusively overseas. That single statement should terrify everyone, but the military especially.
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This is surface level. You can claim all your suppliers are in the US, but if their suppliers use a factory overseas to produce even a single part, then your product can be stopped by a supply chain issue. With most products, it isn’t a single part.
This is the “deep” part of deep supply chain. People are clueing into this right now because of the bottlenecks at ports. Manufacturing lines have shut down because car makers cannot get computer chips, which are made almost exclusively overseas. That single statement should terrify everyone, but the military especially.
It is astounding that the government allowed things to come to this point.
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It is astounding that the government allowed things to come to this point.
Because their focus is on making everything including the Military, industry, contractors, etc. Woke, LGBT, Feminized, Diverse and LESS EFFECTIVE. Perhaps Inneffective against actual threats we face today. Unreal, and Criminally Irresponsible/Negligent.
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Because their focus is on making everything including the Military, industry, contractors, etc. Woke, LGBT, Feminized, Diverse and LESS EFFECTIVE. Perhaps Inneffective against actual threats we face today. Unreal, and Criminally Irresponsible/Negligent.
True but I was talking about the reckless course that brought us to the point of not being materially and energy self sufficient. Beginning with exporting manufacturing, many causes including unions, pollution controls, over regulation of industry and opening up trade with China, bad climate change policy (which really just exported pollution to other nations) all the way to covid lockdowns, and Biden undoing Trump’s energy policies.
Can you imagine trying to prosecute a war? “Uh, China, uh, could we please have chips and gadgets and stuff so we can support our military that’s supporting Taiwan against your invasion? No? Uh, well could we please have some in case you land troops on our west coast?”
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It is astounding that the government allowed things to come to this point.
Not a surprise to me, part of the plan.
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True but I was talking about the reckless course that brought us to the point of not being materially and energy self sufficient. Beginning with exporting manufacturing, many causes including unions, pollution controls, over regulation of industry and opening up trade with China, bad climate change policy (which really just exported pollution to other nations) all the way to covid lockdowns, and Biden undoing Trump’s energy policies.
Can you imagine trying to prosecute a war? “Uh, China, uh, could we please have chips and gadgets and stuff so we can support our military that’s supporting Taiwan against your invasion? No? Uh, well could we please have some in case you land troops on our west coast?”
It's all related. Energy Dependency, Manufacturing Dependency and self destructive focus on the UNIMPORTANT that make the Useful Idiots FEEL GOOD.
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Not a surprise to me, part of the plan.
It’s the perfect plan if you want to bring down an empire. They consider the United States of America an evil empire. On the other hand, never assume malicious intent when sheer stupidity will suffice.
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When you connect the dots between the fake civil rights whores, the pathetic lgbtqrstuvwxyz whores, the crt whores, the tranny admiral, the guy who calls himself michelle obama, insane printing of money, punishing strategies to make success nearly criminal, unless you are fucking walmart who buy their shit from the fucking chinese, who gave us the ficking wuhan virus, and open borders, you see a very carefully strategized coup to end America and create a global corporate governance.
the fucking democrats are behind it all, and those of you who constantly apologize, rationalize, and pretend it isn't so, for those fuckers are the worst of the worst of the lot.
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It’s the perfect plan if you want to bring down an empire. They consider the United States of America an evil empire. On the other hand, never assume malicious intent when sheer stupidity will suffice.
Oh sure, there's lots of stupidity to go around especially at the lower tier, operational level, mostly populated by the aforementioned Useful Idiots.
Those at or near the top are calculated, cunning, intelligent and EVIL.
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True but I was talking about the reckless course that brought us to the point of not being materially and energy self sufficient. Beginning with exporting manufacturing, many causes including unions, pollution controls, over regulation of industry and opening up trade with China, bad climate change policy (which really just exported pollution to other nations) all the way to covid lockdowns, and Biden undoing Trump’s energy policies.
What you say is exactly correct, but I would prefer to say we "chased the manufacturers out of our country" rather than we "exported manufacturing".
Can you imagine trying to prosecute a war? “Uh, China, uh, could we please have chips and gadgets and stuff so we can support our military that’s supporting Taiwan against your invasion? No? Uh, well could we please have some in case you land troops on our west coast?”
Isn't that crazy? It is similar to shutting down our pipelines and our oil exploration and and production, then begging terrorst-financing enemies in OPEC to produce and sell more.
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Oh sure, there's lots of stupidity to go around especially at the lower tier, operational level, mostly populated by the aforementioned Useful Idiots.
Those at or near the top are calculated, cunning, intelligent and EVIL.
Some are. Others, like Joe Biden, are calculating, cunning, evil, and stupid. Well right now he’s just vapid stupid.
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It is astounding that the government allowed things to come to this point.
This is not a bug, it’s a feature of the Government’s scheme. How else do you make people dependent?
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Some are. Others, like Joe Biden, are calculating, cunning, evil, and stupid. Well right now he’s just vapid stupid.
I wasn't talking about Biden. He's irrelevant. Those giving the Democrats and MEDIA their marching orders. It ain't Biden nor any of the Democrat leadership.
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What you say is exactly correct, but I would prefer to say we "chased the manufacturers out of our country" rather than we "exported manufacturing".
This is exactly correct. There are ads in Wisconsin with a manufacturing employee who lost her job due to the manufacturing plant moving to Mexico.
She repeats the lie “Ron Johnson pushed through a tax law that rewards outsourcing.”
I’m so fucking sick of political lies. I’ve been a tax CPA for 38 years. If such a law exists, I would know it. No such law exists. Fucking lying fuckers.
Hufcor was a private company that sold to a PE firm in 2017. It suffered through an EEOC fine in 2015, Covid shutdowns in 2020, and other moves that made doing business in the US difficult. They closed shop in 2021 under Biden, not Trump.