PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Rush on March 05, 2023, 06:44:30 PM
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Wow! Fantastic discussion WELL worth the time. This interview alone is making me take Tulsi seriously. I’m kind of thinking she’d make a good running mate for Trump, but can she do that if she’s not a Republican?
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Wow! Fantastic discussion WELL worth the time. This interview alone is making me take Tulsi seriously. I’m kind of thinking she’d make a good running mate for Trump, but can she do that if she’s not a Republican?
Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat and he ran for Democratic nomination for President.
I have been saying I liked Tulsi since she ran against Bernie et al, and I was very much derided for it.
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Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat and he ran for Democratic nomination for President.
I have been saying I liked Tulsi since she ran against Bernie et al, and I was very much derided for it.
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Well shame on me, I always thought he was a Democrat.
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Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat and he ran for Democratic nomination for President.
I have been saying I liked Tulsi since she ran against Bernie et al, and I was very much derided for it.
You poor thing.............
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Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat and he ran for Democratic nomination for President.
I have been saying I liked Tulsi since she ran against Bernie et al, and I was very much derided for it.
Tulsi is persona non grata because she DESTROYED Kamala Harris.
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You poor thing.............
Thank you.
I feel better now.
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Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat and he ran for Democratic nomination for President.
I have been saying I liked Tulsi since she ran against Bernie et al, and I was very much derided for it.
Until recently she was vehemently anti Second Amendment, so you deserved it. That's one of the issues I'll die on a hill for.
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Until recently she was vehemently anti Second Amendment, so you deserved it. That's one of the issues I'll die on a hill for.
She seems to be experiencing an awakening that a lot of lefties who grew up steeped in leftism experience if and when they start thinking for themselves. Of course she still has to walk the walk before we can trust her. But if you listen to the interview all the way through, she is hyper aware of the psyops put on congressmen once they get to DC and it seems she resists them. It starts around 53.
It’s worse than I thought. The congressmen of both parties are told to put the party first. It’s all about raising money and voting in the way that will keep that party winning elections. It is NOT about what your constituents (whom you represent) at home want and it is NOT what is best for the country and it is NOT what is morally right. It is all about keeping your party in power.
(1:10) Intro
(3:45) Starting out as a Democrat
(7:16) The Socialist tradition of Canada
(9:10) 911, enlisting, and the National Guard
(13:10) Fighting terrorism in Iraq
(15:20) Corporate government collusion
(18:00) Women in the armed forces
(24:11) Equity is not equality
(24:45) The issue of women as POWs
(27:55) On the edge of global conflict
(32:20) Following Russia’s war
(35:43) What does western victory look like?
(40:26) The Treaty of Versailles, learning from history
(44:07) We are fighting a proxy war
(45:50) Biden blocking diplomacy?
(48:04) The military-industrial complex
(49:44) Republicans and crony capitalism
(53:02) The freshman class, pressure to corrupt
(56:46) Funding and frustration
(1:03:37) The DNC: checking boxes and walking away
(1:10:01) Hillary Clinton: a record of war
(1:16:46) Positives in the Republican Party
(1:18:35) There is still promise in the system
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I plan on listening to it.
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Until recently she was vehemently anti Second Amendment, so you deserved it. That's one of the issues I'll die on a hill for.
I don't cling to any SINGLE issue that I am willing to die for. Such a notion is sure to open up a "Sophie's Choice" in which you will be lost.
I liked her logical approach to issues and her willingness to see the other side rather than robotically doing what the party tells her to. I liked what I saw as honesty in her approach and I liked her ability to communicate. I liked the fact that she was a combat veteran that put aside a promising political career to server her country.
And I liked that she was hot!
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I plan on listening to it.
I vacuumed the entire house while I listened to it. I’m incapable of sitting still and watching these things.
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I don't cling to any SINGLE issue that I am willing to die for. Such a notion is sure to open up a "Sophie's Choice" in which you will be lost.
I liked her logical approach to issues and her willingness to see the other side rather than robotically doing what the party tells her to. I liked what I saw as honesty in her approach and I liked her ability to communicate. I liked the fact that she was a combat veteran that put aside a promising political career to server her country.
And I liked that she was hot!
I liked that she is a military vet too. Her trajectory about America’s military ventures after 9/11 is identical to mine: All in to go get the terrorists at first, but then as it dragged on seeing the corruption and money flow and finally realizing that the actual objective had turned into something other than what we were sold: It was no longer about protecting America from terrorists if it ever was. It was now about keeping the war and profits going at the expense of lives and limbs of people the elites don’t give a shit about. She saw it first hand from the inside as opposed to civilians here bitching about evil capitalist Halliburton. Hopefully she is also coming around to see that capitalism isn’t the problem: it’s when the government mates with it (like prosecuting a war) that’s the problem. I would like to see Gabbard state that she has read Sowell’s “Economics 101” before I completely trust her.
Incidentally that’s the dilemma we have in 2016 (if we’re a Democrat) between Hillary and Bernie Sanders. Bernie is anti-capitalism but Hillary is pro-fascist (warmonger). Gabbard also outlined exactly how the DNC pushed Bernie out and got Hillary on the ticket in 2016.
Also like what she said about women (and other diversities) in the military: That job assignment needs to be based on merit; she understands that your life and the mission depend on that.
Compare if she were VP to Kamala Harris and what would happen if the president died and they were president as CIC. Gabbard is a thousand times better. They express exactly why Harris would be so dangerous which I won’t spoil.
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I don't cling to any SINGLE issue that I am willing to die for. Such a notion is sure to open up a "Sophie's Choice" in which you will be lost.
I liked her logical approach to issues and her willingness to see the other side rather than robotically doing what the party tells her to. I liked what I saw as honesty in her approach and I liked her ability to communicate. I liked the fact that she was a combat veteran that put aside a promising political career to server her country.
And I liked that she was hot!
Self defense against people that want to harm you including criminals, your government mob or foreign governments is the single most important issue as it's the one in which all others depend upon.
You're being short sighted and you're just plain wrong.
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Self defense against people that want to harm you including criminals, your government mob or foreign governments is the single most important issue as it's the one in which all others depend upon.
You're being short sighted and you're just plain wrong.
I’m sort of like you in the sense of the 2nd is the hill I’ll die on but it’s not absolute. I agree with Joe in the sense of I wouldn’t vote on that single issue without considering all the others. Let’s say there is a candidate who is pro 2nd Amendment, in fact, would mandate all households have firearms but this candidate is otherwise authoritarian on every other issue. Mandates jabs, masks, lockdowns, heavy regulations, electric cars, 15 minute cities, bans gas stoves, stops all oil drilling, shuts down coal mines, mandates CRT in schools, and implements high taxes and universal basic income triggering hyperinflation and mass exodus from jobs resulting in total crash of the economy because no one will maintain the roads, drive the trucks and trains to get food around the country or build and maintain homes for people.
That’s an extreme example but you get the idea. So in this case are we supposed to use the guns to overthrow this government and regain freedom? That’s the theory but I wouldn’t vote for the guy and count on being able to do that.
Conversely a candidate that is pro free market, pro energy, libertarian (no masks, keep your gas stove) and fiscally conservative (low taxes, balances the budget, doesn’t send money to Ukraine, doesn’t warmonger and also defends the border (OUR border)) but supports some gun control such as mag limits or bans assault weapons. Given these two candidates I’d have to go with this one. But if he banned ALL firearms and started confiscation that would be a tough choice and I might sit out the election rather than vote for either of these guys.
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Self defense against people that want to harm you including criminals, your government mob or foreign governments is the single most important issue as it's the one in which all others depend upon.
You're being short sighted and you're just plain wrong.
Except that she’s hot. Joe is spot on there.
I’m not a single issue voter, EXCEPT for the God-given right to self defense, including self-defense in the face of tyranny.
I’m very anxious to hear Tulsi talk about the Second Amendment, and existing and proposed gun laws.
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Except that she’s hot. Joe is spot on there.
I’m not a single issue voter, EXCEPT for the God-given right to self defense, including self-defense in the face of tyranny.
I’m very anxious to hear Tulsi talk about the Second Amendment, and existing and proposed gun laws.
Hot shmot. I don’t understand how you guys can think a woman is hot if you disagree with her politics. The fact that I think Dan Crenshaw is hot despite his traitorous politics is completely different. Apples and oranges.
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Only Alpha male Patriots who are unflinching in their resolve to end corruption and defend goodness, truth and beauty are hot.
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Only Alpha male Patriots who are unflinching in their resolve to end corruption and defend goodness, truth and beauty are hot.
I’m compartmentalizing. ;D But I admit he is way less hot than he used to be, before he succumbed (cucked) to the Uniparty. Broke my heart. :'( Still not exactly ugly.
AOC on the other hand? Repulsive! Poor Dom Lucre has a crush on her and is totally conflicted. (He’s a conservative and can’t stand her politics.)
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Hot shmot. I don’t understand how you guys can think a woman is hot if you disagree with her politics. The fact that I think Dan Crenshaw is hot despite his traitorous politics is completely different. Apples and oranges.
I’ve been listening to her very closely over the past two years. What she says - primarily being America First, stopping foreign military involvement, and the First Amendment - are main stream conservative ideals. Contrast that to the Lindsey Graham Warhawk talk, and I’ll take Tulsi any day.
She is on Tucker’s show at least weekly. I follow her on Instagram. Literally nothing I’m hearing directly from her in the last two years that I’ve disagreed with her.
That doesn’t mean I’m pushing her for a Republican nomination. She hasn’t been recently vetted on a who host of issues, #1 being 2A. I’m on the lookout for that, and will report back.
So regarding hotness, she is completely unqualified to be a leftist BECAUSE she is hot. There isn’t a democrat woman I find attractive. Not one.
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The vast majority, if not all, the Democrat female politicians and their female activist supporters are hideously ugly.
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The vast majority, if not all, the Democrat female politicians and their female activist supporters are hideously ugly.
This is literally true, not just figuratively. Democrat women all seem bitter and angry, even when they are in charge. Conservative women smile and are happy, and that makes all the difference.
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Finished listening. Her tale of her rise in the Democrat party was interesting. Also interesting was how as incoming representatives they are told what their schedule will be and how much fundraising they have to do each day. The whole process is so out of whack at this point, it seems onsalvageable. Her heart seems to be in the right place.
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BTW, AOC, I would, one time.
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The vast majority, if not all, the Democrat female politicians and their female activist supporters are hideously ugly.
It seems to be a progressive disease. Example below.
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Only Alpha male Patriots who are unflinching in their resolve to end corruption and defend goodness, truth and beauty are hot.
Imagine Bill Murray’s voice in the movie Groundhog Day:
ME.
ME.
ME!!!!
Hot and dedicated to conservative principles…
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Conservative vs liberal
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Conservative vs liberal
Sure wish I had the optimism of the one on the right.
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Sure wish I had the optimism of the one on the right.
Nobody would want to. That's for sure.
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Sure wish I had the optimism of the one on the right.
Be careful.
That’s the next ex Mrs. Anthony you’re criticizing.
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Be careful.
That’s the next ex Mrs. Anthony you’re criticizing.
My aesthetic and physical standards are slightly higher.
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Be careful.
That’s the next ex Mrs. Anthony you’re criticizing.
Post of the day, sir!
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Oh, all right, yes, that's my current girlfriend. You got me.....
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Manchurian Candidate.
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Manchurian Candidate.
Uh, ok.
Wag the Dog.
(What did I miss?)
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Manchurian Candidate.
Based on…?
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Manchurian Candidate.
Slight Possibility, but Obama definitely.
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Manchurian Candidate.
Who? Tulsi?
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Who? Tulsi?
Good guess. That's what I was wondering. Just throwing up a couple of words unrelated to any recent posting probably refers to the OP or the title of the thread. But if that's what he meant, I 'd love to hear the logic that got him there.
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Tulsi: Anti-2A. "Switched" sides. Saying all the "right" things. Not trustworthy. Does that explain it?
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Tulsi: Anti-2A. "Switched" sides. Saying all the "right" things. Not trustworthy. Does that explain it?
That’s what I thought at first but after this interview I’m moving more away from untrustworthy. Mind you that doesn’t mean I’m all in for “trustworthy” yet. And won’t be until she proves herself with actual votes or policy.
People do change. Dave Rubin for example was a lefty as recently as 2015 I believe? Of course there’s a difference between a commentator and an elected official.
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Brandon Straka
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Tulsi: Anti-2A. "Switched" sides. Saying all the "right" things. Not trustworthy. Does that explain it?
Yeah, that explains it, even though I disagree. I was wrong once before, but I don't think that once a politician takes a side on an issue that they should never be allowed to change their mind. She went so far as to leave the Dem party. To me, that says a lot.
And you have to admit, your original post on this was a bit cryptic.
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Brandon Straka
Oh no. Here we go again.
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Ronald Reagan
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(I can play this game too. Ronald Reagan is a prime example of this)
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Jesse Helms. Well there’s a big difference between switching parties because the parties changed, and changing your ideology. Tulsi is a bit of both.
Amala Ekpunobi is the latter, was a rabid leftie and totally flipped. There are many like her.
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Leo Terrell
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George Wallace
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Tulsi: Anti-2A. "Switched" sides. Saying all the "right" things. Not trustworthy. Does that explain it?
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Hell, back in the day I voted for Carter.
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I'm leaning towards believing her.
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That’s what I thought at first but after this interview I’m moving more away from untrustworthy. Mind you that doesn’t mean I’m all in for “trustworthy” yet. And won’t be until she proves herself with actual votes or policy.
People do change. Dave Rubin for example was a lefty as recently as 2015 I believe? Of course there’s a difference between a commentator and an elected official.
This is where I am. While she hasn’t been fully vetted, there wasn’t a thing in that interview that I disagreed with. Not one. As a member of Daily Wire, I even sought out this interview and listened to the last 30 minutes of it. 1:52 interview and I agreed with all of it. Further, her reasons and rationale were something I could embrace.
She is one thoughtful, and I hope decent, person.
And Jordan Peterson is not a bomb thrower. He is very academic but with a great bedside manner.
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Kristi Noem is hotter. Nothing wrong with Tulsi though. ;D