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Title: State of journalism today
Post by: Rush on August 23, 2019, 08:39:51 AM
I quote the news announcer verbatim:

"The suspect who set a homeless man on fire has been charged with murder after he died yesterday. He is now in jail."

SMH

Title: Re: State of journalism today
Post by: Number7 on August 23, 2019, 08:42:20 AM
Public education and the university system have become the worlds least efficient bureaucracies.

They turn out morons, liars and attention whores like Keebler’s turns out cookies.
Title: Re: State of journalism today
Post by: Anthony on August 23, 2019, 09:07:06 AM
Journalism School = Indoctrination Center

They don't care about writing skills, grammar, credible sources, etc. Just fitting a story to their Far Left Progressive Narrative.  Our Public Schools are a great precursor to them.
Title: Re: State of journalism today
Post by: bflynn on August 23, 2019, 01:13:02 PM
“Journalism”
Title: Re: State of journalism today
Post by: Anthony on August 23, 2019, 01:20:09 PM
"JournalSCHISM"
Title: Re: State of journalism today
Post by: Little Joe on August 24, 2019, 04:46:04 AM
“Journalism”
I don't understand your point, unless you were correcting someone's spelling, but I couldn't find the misspelling.  Maybe I need more coffee this morning.
Title: Re: State of journalism today
Post by: jb1842 on August 24, 2019, 05:27:46 AM
You are all spelling it wrong, it's P-R-O-P-A-G-A-N-D-A.
Title: Re: State of journalism today
Post by: Anthony on August 24, 2019, 05:29:03 AM
You are all spelling it wrong, it's P-R-O-P-A-G-A-N-D-A.

Yes it is.  If it doesn't fit the Far Left Progressive narrative they either OMIT the story, or change it to have a leftist bias.  Pure propaganda. 
Title: Re: State of journalism today
Post by: Rush on August 24, 2019, 08:08:09 AM
All true but my point was how badly educated these people are. Whether practicing journalism or propaganda, either way no excuse for such horrible grammar. Are kids not being taught how to diagram sentences anymore?
Title: Re: State of journalism today
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 24, 2019, 09:30:34 AM
There is no journalism anymore. They decide what the outcome of the story needs to be (orange man bad) and g9 about writing a story to fit that.  Just look at the leaked meeting transcript where they decided it was time to shift from collusion, it didn't work, now to proving that America got where it is today on the backs of slaves. They are now attempting to rewrite history to prove this.
Title: Re: State of journalism today
Post by: azure on August 24, 2019, 10:10:27 AM
All true but my point was how badly educated these people are. Whether practicing journalism or propaganda, either way no excuse for such horrible grammar. Are kids not being taught how to diagram sentences anymore?

My guess is, they are not even being taught how to write these days. You should see some of the emails I receive from my students... run on sentences, no capitalization or punctuation. Admittedly these are not the majority, but they are all too frequent... and these are high school graduates. :(
Title: Re: State of journalism today
Post by: Lucifer on August 24, 2019, 10:15:44 AM
We have a PhD on this forum that writes like a elementary kid.   ::)
Title: Re: State of journalism today
Post by: Number7 on August 24, 2019, 11:02:43 AM
We have a PhD on this forum that writes like a elementary kid.   ::)

You mean professor zero, zero, zero?
Title: Re: State of journalism today
Post by: nddons on August 25, 2019, 05:42:14 AM
We have a PhD on this forum that writes like a elementary kid.   ::)
PhD:  Piled higher and Deeper
Title: Re: State of journalism today
Post by: Anthony on August 26, 2019, 05:55:12 AM
We have freedom of speech, at least until the Leftists pass "Hate Speech" laws and they get to define that hate speech is anything in which they disagree.  However, that being said, who holds the Media accountable?  They now accept outright lying as acceptable. 

The "Russia" Coup Attempt was a Media/Democrat failure, yet nobody has paid the price for this crime of Sedition.  The Media is out of control, and our only recourse is to turn them off, or not read their crap on line.  Yes, I know this has existed for a long time, Hearst, etc. 
Title: Re: State of journalism today
Post by: Lucifer on August 26, 2019, 06:03:49 AM
We have freedom of speech, at least until the Leftists pass "Hate Speech" laws and they get to define that hate speech is anything in which they disagree.  However, that being said, who holds the Media accountable?  They now accept outright lying as acceptable. 

The "Russia" Coup Attempt was a Media/Democrat failure, yet nobody has paid the price for this crime of Sedition.  The Media is out of control, and our only recourse is to turn them off, or not read their crap on line.  Yes, I know this has existed for a long time, Hearst, etc.

I cut my cable off, and I don't bother watching network or cable news anymore.   It's all become propaganda.   Even Foxnews has fallen off to the progressive left with the exception of a few shows that are commentary.

 Drudge Report has become nothing more than a conduit to lead readers to progressive internet sites.  The unbiased internet sites are under constant attack by the left.

 Goebbels would have been down right envious of what the MSM has evolved into.
Title: Re: State of journalism today
Post by: Anthony on August 26, 2019, 06:22:51 AM
I cut my cable off, and I don't bother watching network or cable news anymore.   It's all become propaganda.   Even Foxnews has fallen off to the progressive left with the exception of a few shows that are commentary.

 Drudge Report has become nothing more than a conduit to lead readers to progressive internet sites.  The unbiased internet sites are under constant attack by the left.

 Goebbels would have been down right envious of what the MSM has evolved into.

I cut the cable about a year and a half ago also.  I do still get tv programming via antenna, and yes then networks are just all Democrat propaganda outlets.  I can't watch them.  I've noticed Drudge has turned too. 

The only unbiased news is from bloggers, and they are attacked as you say. All I know is the crap that I get from the MSM is far left biased, so if I believe the opposite, I probably have the truth. 
Title: Re: State of journalism today
Post by: Rush on August 26, 2019, 08:00:56 AM
We have freedom of speech, at least until the Leftists pass "Hate Speech" laws and they get to define that hate speech is anything in which they disagree.  However, that being said, who holds the Media accountable?  They now accept outright lying as acceptable. 

The "Russia" Coup Attempt was a Media/Democrat failure, yet nobody has paid the price for this crime of Sedition.  The Media is out of control, and our only recourse is to turn them off, or not read their crap on line.  Yes, I know this has existed for a long time, Hearst, etc.

How to hold the media accountable? When you criticize the media THEY are the ones hiding behind free speech. All while trying to shut down those who don’t agree with their view. I don’t see many ways to hold them accountable to truth.
Title: Re: State of journalism today
Post by: Username on August 26, 2019, 08:41:16 AM
How to hold the media accountable? When you criticize the media THEY are the ones hiding behind free speech. All while trying to shut down those who don’t agree with their view. I don’t see many ways to hold them accountable to truth.
The rot goes very deep.  It may be that the only way to change things is from within.  To expose the hypocrisy that they live in every day.  Like the leaked meeting where the NYT admits that the Russia Hoax didn't work and now they have to pivot to racist, racist, racist!  You can see how that leak struck a nerve by how violent the reaction was from NYT management.

There has to be a few true journalists who treasure what journalism once was who are willing to leak what's going on in upper management and with the workers.  It's happening at Google and Facebook.  It can happen with journalism.  Exposing them for who they really are in their own words is the only way I can think of.
Title: Re: State of journalism today
Post by: jb1842 on August 26, 2019, 09:04:23 AM
PhD:  Piled higher and Deeper

Why does most of society think a PhD makes someone more intelligent?

https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/25/former-duke-psychiatrist-trump-deaths-mao-stalin-hitler/
Title: Re: State of journalism today
Post by: Lucifer on August 26, 2019, 09:11:15 AM
Why does most of society think a PhD makes someone more intelligent?

https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/25/former-duke-psychiatrist-trump-deaths-mao-stalin-hitler/

Question: What do you call a guy who graduates dead last in medical school?

Answer:  "Doctor"
Title: Re: State of journalism today
Post by: Mr Pou on August 26, 2019, 10:48:34 AM
Why does most of society think a PhD makes someone more intelligent?

https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/25/former-duke-psychiatrist-trump-deaths-mao-stalin-hitler/

From the article:

“Trump is as destructive a person in this century as Hitler, Stalin and Mao were in the last century. He may be responsible for many more million deaths than they were,” Frances continued.

Just more leftist sensationalized bullshit. They must think that if the bullshit comes from a PhD is will be more palatable. The above statement is really quite laughable, really.
Title: Re: State of journalism today
Post by: jb1842 on August 26, 2019, 11:01:29 AM
From the article:

“Trump is as destructive a person in this century as Hitler, Stalin and Mao were in the last century. He may be responsible for many more million deaths than they were,” Frances continued.

Just more leftist sensationalized bullshit. They must think that if the bullshit comes from a PhD is will be more palatable. The above statement is really quite laughable, really.

It's only laughable if you aren't retarded. Sadly, there are too many people out there that will believe it.
Title: Re: State of journalism today
Post by: Username on August 26, 2019, 11:02:09 AM
From the article:

“Trump is as destructive a person in this century as Hitler, Stalin and Mao were in the last century. He may be responsible for many more million deaths than they were,” Frances continued.

Just more leftist sensationalized bullshit. They must think that if the bullshit comes from a PhD is will be more palatable. The above statement is really quite laughable, really.
Agree, but he's an MD, not a PhD.  He did very well at a trade school, but I wouldn't trust him with anything beyond a band-aid.  Even worse, he's a psychiatrist so maybe I wouldn't even trust him with a band-aid.
Title: Re: State of journalism today
Post by: Anthony on August 26, 2019, 11:05:39 AM
From the article:

“Trump is as destructive a person in this century as Hitler, Stalin and Mao were in the last century. He may be responsible for many more million deaths than they were,” Frances continued.

Just more leftist sensationalized bullshit. They must think that if the bullshit comes from a PhD is will be more palatable. The above statement is really quite laughable, really.

The media has NO CREDIBILITY.  None.  They print stuff that is caustic, and has no basis in fact.  Stalin killed 20 million.  Hitler 6 million.  Mao possibly 40 - 60 million.  How many has Trump killed?  Where are the death camps?
Title: Re: State of journalism today
Post by: Username on August 26, 2019, 11:10:50 AM
Then again, thinning the heard ain't such a bad thing.