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Title: Useless trivia
Post by: Rush on March 14, 2021, 07:14:12 AM
The word “gorilla” comes from the Greek word “gorillai”, itself a translation of the Punic language spoken by the ancient Carthaginians, one of whom had traveled to the west coast of Africa around 500 BC, and saw what was probably actually a chimpanzee.

The word “guerilla” in English, was acquired from the Spanish language in the early 1800s during the Peninsula war, meaning literally “little war” as a diminutive of “guerra”, the Spanish word for war, which is itself descended from ancient proto-Germanic “werra” meaning to cause chaos, confusion, which was acquired in Latin by the Romans as they dealt with migrating barbarians from the north beginning around 200 BC, who used guerilla tactics successfully against Roman armies.

It’s always driven me nuts that these two words are homophones. I picture hairy non-human primates carrying “assault rifles” hiding behind trees every time the news talks about guerilla warfare.
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: Anthony on March 14, 2021, 07:33:42 AM
The word “gorilla” comes from the Greek word “gorillai”, itself a translation of the Punic language spoken by the ancient Carthaginians, one of whom had traveled to the west coast of Africa around 500 BC, and saw what was probably actually a chimpanzee.

The word “guerilla” in English, was acquired from the Spanish language in the early 1800s during the Peninsula war, meaning literally “little war” as a diminutive of “guerra”, the Spanish word for war, which is itself descended from ancient proto-Germanic “werra” meaning to cause chaos, confusion, which was acquired in Latin by the Romans as they dealt with migrating barbarians from the north beginning around 200 BC, who used guerilla tactics successfully against Roman armies.

It’s always driven me nuts that these two words are homophones. I picture hairy non-human primates carrying “assault rifles” hiding behind trees every time the news talks about guerilla warfare.

There's a great scene in the movie Captain Ron about that between Kurt Russell and that guy from SNL when it was still good.  Oh yeah, Martin Short.
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on March 14, 2021, 07:34:17 AM
It’s not useless if knowing it relieves you from being driven crazy!

Cappuccinos, coffee drinks topped with white foam, got their name from the Capuchin monks, who wear brown robes and white hats.
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: Rush on March 14, 2021, 07:46:11 AM
It’s not useless if knowing it relieves you from being driven crazy!

That was the idea. We’ll see if it works.

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Cappuccinos, coffee drinks topped with white foam, got their name from the Capuchin monks, who wear brown robes and white hats.

So too the Capuchin monkeys, with fur caps colored to make them resemble those monks.
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: Username on March 14, 2021, 08:57:19 AM
Blueberries are red when they're green.
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: bflynn on March 14, 2021, 05:27:56 PM
The little dot above the i and the j is called a diacritic.

Also, Dr Seuss invented the word "nerd", but since it was in the book "If I ran the Zoo", you'll never see it again.
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: Rush on March 14, 2021, 06:54:11 PM
The little dot above the i and the j is called a diacritic.

Also, Dr Seuss invented the word "nerd", but since it was in the book "If I ran the Zoo", you'll never see it again.

This book banning stuff is truly alarming.
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: Lucifer on March 14, 2021, 07:06:40 PM
This book banning stuff is truly alarming.

It’s right in line with a totalitarian takeover. 

Everything you are seeing happening in the US has happened before in other countries that underwent a totalitarian regime takeover. 

The question is if we can stop it. 
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: Jim Logajan on March 14, 2021, 08:19:20 PM
The little dot above the i and the j is called a diacritic.

Also, Dr Seuss invented the word "nerd", but since it was in the book "If I ran the Zoo", you'll never see it again.

It seems Amazon still allows third parties to sell used editions. They are now collectors items and commanding premium asking prices:

https://www.amazon.com/If-Ran-Zoo-Classic-Seuss/dp/0394800818 (https://www.amazon.com/If-Ran-Zoo-Classic-Seuss/dp/0394800818)
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: Rush on March 15, 2021, 01:21:38 AM
It’s right in line with a totalitarian takeover. 

Everything you are seeing happening in the US has happened before in other countries that underwent a totalitarian regime takeover. 

The question is if we can stop it.

Do you know of any case where it has been stopped before?  I can’t think of any.
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: Lucifer on March 15, 2021, 05:38:38 AM
Do you know of any case where it has been stopped before?  I can’t think of any.

On a large scale, no.  Argentina managed a pushback in the 70's I believe,

Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: Anthony on March 15, 2021, 07:18:25 AM
Do you know of any case where it has been stopped before?  I can’t think of any.

No.  It took a World War to stop Germany and Japan.  That just enabled the USSR and China.   People must hate freedom.   Or fear it.
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: Username on March 15, 2021, 07:29:37 AM
No.  It took a World War to stop Germany and Japan.  That just enabled the USSR and China.   People must hate freedom.   Or fear it.
I think you have it exactly right.  People fear freedom.  I think that most people are very happy being told what to do, what to think, how to behave.  They want just enough freedom to be able to make insignificant choices so they believe they have free will.  But they want restrictions on how they and everyone else behaves.  It comes down to uncertainty.  Uncertainty is uncomfortable.  The world will be a better place for them if they all put on their Mao suits in the morning, read the government approved newspapers, march to their jobs, come home and tune their TV to one of three government approved channels.  All on a strict well-regulated timetable.

Look at what's happening... People saying "I feel uncomfortable reading that book so you should not read it."  And down the hell hole we go.
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: Lucifer on March 15, 2021, 07:54:45 AM
I think you have it exactly right.  People fear freedom.  I think that most people are very happy being told what to do, what to think, how to behave.  They want just enough freedom to be able to make insignificant choices so they believe they have free will.  But they want restrictions on how they and everyone else behaves.  It comes down to uncertainty.  Uncertainty is uncomfortable.  The world will be a better place for them if they all put on their Mao suits in the morning, read the government approved newspapers, march to their jobs, come home and tune their TV to one of three government approved channels.  All on a strict well-regulated timetable.

Look at what's happening... People saying "I feel uncomfortable reading that book so you should not read it."  And down the hell hole we go.

 This is where the US has repeatedly screwed the pooch with regards to the Middle East and other regions.

 Our government had the idea we must "spread democracy" around the world.  In reality the spreading of democracy was really about cranking up wars, but that's just the side benefit.

 Take the invasion of Iraq and the topple of Saddam Hussein.   The people living under Hussein were quite content because there was no guesswork, they were told what to do, when to do and how to do it.   Stay in line and obey and the Iraqi government took care of the rest.   Many cultures operate like this, and when the people get liberated eventually over time they resort back to the way it use to be, with an authoritative government in control.
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 15, 2021, 08:04:31 AM
This is where the US has repeatedly screwed the pooch with regards to the Middle East and other regions.

 Our government had the idea we must "spread democracy" around the world.  In reality the spreading of democracy was really about cranking up wars, but that's just the side benefit.

 Take the invasion of Iraq and the topple of Saddam Hussein.   The people living under Hussein were quite content because there was no guesswork, they were told what to do, when to do and how to do it.   Stay in line and obey and the Iraqi government took care of the rest.   Many cultures operate like this, and when the people get liberated eventually over time they resort back to the way it use to be, with an authoritative government in control.

 Content?  What the heck are you smoking?
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: Lucifer on March 15, 2021, 08:14:14 AM
Content?  What the heck are you smoking?

 Go study the past few thousand years of ME history. 

 Spreading democracy and freedom is the desire of a culture not understanding other cultures.   And as previously stated, the reason behind this "spreading democracy" isn't actually rooted in freedom, but as greasing the wheels of the MIC.

 
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: Anthony on March 15, 2021, 09:08:22 AM
Go study the past few thousand years of ME history. 

 Spreading democracy and freedom is the desire of a culture not understanding other cultures.   And as previously stated, the reason behind this "spreading democracy" isn't actually rooted in freedom, but as greasing the wheels of the MIC.

Yes, for the MIC but also to create other markets for our goods.  That's what China is doing.  Nation building creates CONSUMERS.  That was the theory when we actually made stuff here anyway.
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: Rush on March 15, 2021, 09:08:54 AM
Content?  What the heck are you smoking?

I was under the impression there were two groups in Iraq, one loyal to Sadam and the other wanting to kick him out.
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: Lucifer on March 15, 2021, 09:10:38 AM
I was under the impression there were two groups in Iraq, one loyal to Sadam and the other wanting to kick him out.

 Every ME country has that same faction to varying degrees.   It's always a power struggle to be the new totalitarian.
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 15, 2021, 09:36:15 AM
I was under the impression there were two groups in Iraq, one loyal to Sadam and the other wanting to kick him out.

one "loyal" out of fear

the wanting to kick him out

(notice it is perfectly possible for neither group to want democracy)

and pay no attention to the crowds cheering when madass was overthrown.
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: Anthony on March 15, 2021, 09:47:10 AM
one "loyal" out of fear

the wanting to kick him out

(notice it is perfectly possible for neither group to want democracy)

and pay no attention to the crowds cheering when madass was overthrown.

There is a theory that many if not most in the M.E. do NOT WANT Democracy as it is foreign to them.  They prefer the ease of being led, governed and told what to do.  You know like Democrats.  Our efforts to install "Democracy" even though we aren't one ourselves has largely been a failure around the globe.  Maybe an intentional failure to prolong these wars for the MIC.
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: Lucifer on March 15, 2021, 10:00:09 AM
one "loyal" out of fear

the wanting to kick him out

(notice it is perfectly possible for neither group to want democracy)

and pay no attention to the crowds cheering when madass was overthrown.

 Those cheering crowds are typically the ones who eventually usher in yet another totalitarian regime.    The ME has a history of exchanging one tyrant for another.
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: nddons on March 15, 2021, 11:04:22 AM
There is a theory that many if not most in the M.E. do NOT WANT Democracy as it is foreign to them.  They prefer the ease of being led, governed and told what to do.  You know like Democrats.  Our efforts to install "Democracy" even though we aren't one ourselves has largely been a failure around the globe.  Maybe an intentional failure to prolong these wars for the MIC.
This was GWB’s biggest mistake, and most of us freedom-loving people agreeing with him.

It’s inconceivable that people would not crave freedom, but it’s also inconceivable that people actually believe that government grants people their rights, so...
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: Rush on March 15, 2021, 12:15:49 PM
This was GWB’s biggest mistake, and most of us freedom-loving people agreeing with him.

It’s inconceivable that people would not crave freedom, but it’s also inconceivable that people actually believe that government grants people their rights, so...

I’ve come full circle. When I was 14 and watching the nightly American dead soldiers count on the TV, I decided I was against the Vietnam war and war in general, other than to defend the homeland. Then as I grew up and understood communist expansion and the Islamic terrorist threats, I grew to favor our military actions overseas. Especially after 9/11, I was all about going in there and kicking everyone’s ass. Now I’ve come back to my original non-interference position.

It was different in the two world wars. We were right to go in and stop the fascist dictatorships that threatened the entire European continent. But right now our own federal government has become that fascist dictatorship, if we don’t fix the Democrat party’s fraud machine. And I find myself actually fearing our own military is going to point its guns at ME.
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: Little Joe on March 15, 2021, 12:37:12 PM
This was GWB’s biggest mistake, and most of us freedom-loving people agreeing with him.

It's not necessarily that they don't want freedom.  Some do, some don't.

The problem was having a controlling authority suddenly deposed resulting in anarchy, not freedom, (although I sometimes think libertarians don't understand the difference).
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 15, 2021, 12:39:06 PM
.... And I find myself actually fearing our own military is going to point its guns at ME.

if you knew military personnel, you'd have less fear. 

but, the rambo-wannabe LEOs, the barney fifes, those are some scary people...


Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: Rush on March 15, 2021, 01:03:26 PM
if you knew military personnel, you'd have less fear. 

I do know military personnel but, being old myself, they’re old.  But now with young people having been brainwashed in school for two generations I’m not sure what they’d do if they have TDS.  I don’t have much of a feel for young’uns in the military today.

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but, the rambo-wannabe LEOs, the barney fifes, those are some scary people...

Some yes, some no. I’m hoping more wouldn’t enforce federal tyranny than would.
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: bflynn on March 15, 2021, 01:14:03 PM
It's not necessarily that they don't want freedom.  Some do, some don't.

The problem was having a controlling authority suddenly deposed resulting in anarchy, not freedom, (although I sometimes think libertarians don't understand the difference).

Perfect current example - The people of Myanmar want freedom.  The general in charge of the military disagrees, has seized power and is actively trying to put down protests. 

But how can this happen?  Oppressive gun laws have been a major contributor.  The general could not have seized power if the people were widely armed.  His coup would be over by now. 
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: nddons on March 15, 2021, 01:19:49 PM
It's not necessarily that they don't want freedom.  Some do, some don't.

The problem was having a controlling authority suddenly deposed resulting in anarchy, not freedom, (although I sometimes think libertarians don't understand the difference).
Yes, the men and women who stuck their finger in the ink to vote I guess valued their freedom. But they became sheep once we left, didn’t fight for themselves, and allowed the Iranians/Taliban/Isis to do whatever they wanted with them, all while allowing American soldiers to die for them. Fuck em all.
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: Lucifer on March 15, 2021, 06:27:00 PM
A thought to remember, Marx said, "Remove one freedom per generation and soon you will have no freedom and no one would have noticed."


There was a chemistry professor in a large college that had some exchange students in the class.

One day while the class was in the lab, the professor noticed one young man, an exchange student, who kept rubbing his back and stretching as if his back hurt.

The professor asked the young man what was the matter. The student told him he had a bullet lodged in his back. He had been shot while fighting Communists in his native country who were trying to overthrow his country's government and install a new communist regime.

In the midst of his story, he looked at the professor and asked a strange question. He asked: "Do you know how to catch wild pigs?"

The professor thought it was a joke and asked for the punch line.

The young man said that it was no joke. "You catch wild pigs by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs find it and begin to come every day to eat the free food.

When they are used to coming every day, you put a fence down one side of the place where they are used to coming. When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again and you put up another side of the fence

They get used to that and start to eat again. You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with a gate in the last side.

The pigs, which are used to the free corn, start to come through the gate to eat that free corn again. You then slam the gate on them and catch the whole herd.

Suddenly the wild pigs have lost their freedom. They run around and around inside the fence, but they are caught. Soon they go back to eating the free corn. They are so used to it that they have forgotten how to forage in the woods for themselves, so they accept their captivity."

The young man then told the professor that is exactly what he sees happening in America & Canada. The government keeps pushing us toward Communism/Socialism and keeps spreading the free corn out in the form of programs such as supplemental income, tax credit for unearned income, tax exemptions, tobacco subsidies, dairy subsidies, payments not to plant crops (CRP), welfare entitlements, medicine, drugs, etc., while we continually lose our freedoms, just a little at a time.
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: nddons on March 16, 2021, 07:19:38 AM
^^^^^
Frightening and depressing but absolutely true.
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: texasag93 on March 17, 2021, 04:20:38 PM
There is a theory that many if not most in the M.E. do NOT WANT Democracy as it is foreign to them.  They prefer the ease of being led, governed and told what to do.  You know like Democrats.  Our efforts to install "Democracy" even though we aren't one ourselves has largely been a failure around the globe.  Maybe an intentional failure to prolong these wars for the MIC.

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Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on March 17, 2021, 06:11:13 PM
At least they're not spreading Covid.
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: Jim Logajan on March 17, 2021, 06:17:24 PM
At least they're not spreading Covid.

The ones in the burkas are all hot babes.
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 18, 2021, 04:24:29 AM
The ones in the burkas are all hot babes.

or at least sweating like pigs
Title: Re: Useless trivia
Post by: Mr Pou on March 18, 2021, 04:40:41 AM
I'll take before Islam for $100, Alex...