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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: JeffDG on March 21, 2016, 04:08:47 PM

Title: This is a bullshit ad
Post by: JeffDG on March 21, 2016, 04:08:47 PM
Seriously, way beyond the pale.


http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/273790-anti-trump-group-targets-mormons-with-ad-featuring-nude-melania
Title: Re: This is a bullshit ad
Post by: Gary on March 21, 2016, 04:11:59 PM
I'm no Trump fan, but yes, that is too far.

Gary
Title: Re: This is a bullshit ad
Post by: Gary on March 21, 2016, 04:15:04 PM
Be interesting to see who is funding "Make America Awesome"... Need to do some searching..

Gary
Title: Re: This is a bullshit ad
Post by: Little Joe on March 21, 2016, 04:16:04 PM
That ad will probably get him a few hundred thousand more votes!
Title: Re: This is a bullshit ad
Post by: Lucifer on March 21, 2016, 04:16:26 PM
Very sad.

But unfortunately it's only going to get worse.
Title: Re: This is a bullshit ad
Post by: acrogimp on March 21, 2016, 04:19:39 PM
Seriously, way beyond the pale.


http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/273790-anti-trump-group-targets-mormons-with-ad-featuring-nude-melania
How is that any different than your constant seagull droppings about Trump's supposed mafia connections or using convicted felons who have since paid their debt society as consultants?

Both are the lowest form of attempts to dissuade people from voting for/supporting someone.  At least one is attractive to look at.

These kinds of disgusting tricks have been going on in American politics since there was an America - I recall one FL campaign example that others may also have heard:
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The political enemies of Senator Claude Pepper, of Florida, are said to have hit on a remarkable device. Throughout the Florida backwoods, according to a story going the Washington Rounds, the unfortunate senator is being described in the following spine-chilling terms:

“Why, J. Edgar Hoover, the whole FBI, and every member of Congress knows that Claude Pepper is” – breathless pause – “a shameless extrovert. Moreover, there is reason to believe he practices nepotism with his sister-in-law, and that his sister has been a thespian in sinful New York. Finally – and this is hard to believe – it is well known that before Pepper was married he regularly practiced” – a more breathless pause – “celibacy.”

As far as is known, although he is certainly uninhibited, and was certainly once a bachelor, the senator has never employed his sister-in-law, and his sister has never been an actress. Yet denials will do no good. And among Florida voters with limited vocabularies, there is said to be much honest indignation at these horrifying revelations. The Pepper forces are seriously worried.

Besides, Mrs. Trump will be the best damn looking First Lady we've ever had.

'Gimp
Title: Re: This is a bullshit ad
Post by: JeffDG on March 21, 2016, 04:34:35 PM
How is that any different than your constant seagull droppings about Trump's supposed mafia connections or using convicted felons who have since paid their debt society as consultants?
Well, Trump constantly talks about his picking the best people, so the fact that he picks up convicted felons speaks to his judgement.  His wife posing for a photo shoot says nothing about Trump's judgement whatsoever.

Both are the lowest form of attempts to dissuade people from voting for/supporting someone.  At least one is attractive to look at.
No, one speaks to the judgement and the core of his qualifications, the other is a cheap ad hominem.

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These kinds of disgusting tricks have been going on in American politics since there was an America - I recall one FL campaign example that others may also have heard:
Besides, Mrs. Trump will be the best damn looking First Lady we've ever had.

'Gimp
Title: Re: This is a bullshit ad
Post by: acrogimp on March 21, 2016, 05:19:38 PM
Well, Trump constantly talks about his picking the best people, so the fact that he picks up convicted felons speaks to his judgement.  His wife posing for a photo shoot says nothing about Trump's judgement whatsoever.

No, one speaks to the judgement and the core of his qualifications, the other is a cheap ad hominem.

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Does the fact that someone has been convicted of a felony and since paid their debt to society in accordance with the law just totally erase all of their abilities and potential as a human being in your book?  This appears to be a recurring theme with you and Trump's selection of consultants and assistants and associates.

Seems a rather dim view of your fellow man.

And in the case of at least one of these felons you've talked about, the crime, and punishment, both occurred before Trump ever even met the man (by more than decade as I recall).  Similarly, the picture of Mrs. Trump was taken before they were married.  Why is one OK and the other not?

I know, one is a crime the other is bad personal judgement, but but but.

Can people not change?  Can they not take a bad experience and turn it into a positive?  Does not a history like that predispose people to pay more attention to address the concern about possible recidivism?

And if you cannot overcome your bias, what of Ted Cruz's own brush with the same problem?

http://www.breitbartunmasked.com/2015/03/23/will-ted-cruz-continue-to-utilize-convicted-felons-for-his-2016-campaign/

Or this other person, also a felon:

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Cruz-consultant-Jeff-Roe-thrives-in-the-school-of-6236892.php#photo-7917179

I think in all cases that men who have paid their debt to society and demonstrate they have been rehabilitated deserve a second chance.

'Gimp
Title: Re: This is a bullshit ad
Post by: Number7 on March 22, 2016, 08:52:11 AM
I have to say I was totally SHOCKED to discover that Donald Trump is heterosexual, married to a female who has female parts, and that the kind people who hate him all noticed it at the same time.

Now imagine Hilary Clinton dressed like Mrs. Trump was in that ad...
Title: Re: This is a bullshit ad
Post by: acrogimp on March 22, 2016, 08:53:44 AM
I have to say I was totally SHOCKED to discover that Donald Trump is heterosexual, married to a female who has female parts, and that the kind people who hate him all noticed it at the same time.

Now imagine Hilary Clinton dressed like Mrs. Trump was in that ad...
Dear God, now I need a stick to poke out my mind's eye.  You bastard!

'Gimp
Title: Re: This is a bullshit ad
Post by: Mase on March 22, 2016, 11:09:01 AM
Dear God, now I need a stick to poke out my mind's eye.  You bastard!

'Gimp

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Title: Re: This is a bullshit ad
Post by: Little Joe on March 23, 2016, 03:40:40 AM
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I hate you.