PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Rush on April 16, 2022, 02:43:14 AM
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Communist states soon realize that economic collectivism (ownership by “the people”) doesn’t work and they allow a form of capitalism but members of The Party use their government authority to hoard all the wealth to themselves.
A free market economy like ours trends toward monopolies as economies of scale cause small businesses to gobble each other up until they become one large black hole which is allied with the political class.
In both cases, from ideal communism to ideal free market, the money and power gets concentrated in the hands of a few. What am I missing?
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Nothing. Sums it up! 😎😂
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Wow I came up with this thought first thing this morning. Then just now found THIS. Brilliant and so on point.
Also very very very much like Russel Brand's "we need to bring power back to small local communities". That does it: They are both right. But Styx really articulates it perfectly.
https://rumble.com/v116ptl-the-undefeatable-society.html
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He's on first.
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A free market economy like ours trends toward monopolies as economies of scale cause small businesses to gobble each other up until they become one large black hole which is allied with the political class.
Of course we are presently very far from a free market economy. It is quite mixed.
The point about evolution is a good one. I think the only way to prevent such capture is strong limitations on government power. But as the history of the US shows, that may not so much prevent as merely slow down.
I rather like Rothbard’s ideas about competing organizations to provide use of defensive force. Without a geographic monopoly, people can then switch defense providers if one gets out of control.
Of course this raises other potential problems. Personally I don’t think we have enough experience and data at the low end of the violence in society scale to really know if such geographic monopolies are the best way to go or not. Essentially that is the classic minarchism vs anarchy debate.
What I am fairly certain of is that our current Federal government is at least 10X too large and is a creeping monster destructive of our freedoms.
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At this point both parties have brought this about. It's time for political candidates to step forward and tell us which Government departments they would defund and deauthorize, like the DOE for example. The last House Speaker to move us forward with a balanced budget was Newt.
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At this point both parties have brought this about. It's time for political candidates to step forward and tell us which Government departments they would defund and deauthorize, like the DOE for example. The last House Speaker to move us forward with a balanced budget was Newt.
Bloat. How many of these agencies could be dissolved, or handled at the state level? https://www.usa.gov/federal-agencies/
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Nowadays both parties about how much they are reducing the deficit, not that they are working to have a surplus.
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Of course we are presently very far from a free market economy. It is quite mixed.
The point about evolution is a good one. I think the only way to prevent such capture is strong limitations on government power. But as the history of the US shows, that may not so much prevent as merely slow down.
I rather like Rothbard’s ideas about competing organizations to provide use of defensive force. Without a geographic monopoly, people can then switch defense providers if one gets out of control.
Of course this raises other potential problems. Personally I don’t think we have enough experience and data at the low end of the violence in society scale to really know if such geographic monopolies are the best way to go or not. Essentially that is the classic minarchism vs anarchy debate.
What I am fairly certain of is that our current Federal government is at least 10X too large and is a creeping monster destructive of our freedoms.
Agree wholeheartedly with the bold parts. The rest I don't disagree with but need to study more.
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Agree wholeheartedly with the bold parts. The rest I don't disagree with but need to study more.
I will be keen to hear what you think of Rothbard’s ideas on this point, when you have the time.
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I will be keen to hear what you think of Rothbard’s ideas on this point, when you have the time.
Does he cover that in chapter 12 of his book "For a New Liberty" or is there a separate discussion he made somewhere else on the subject? (I admit I only ever got to chapter 5 of that book. I should start again at the beginning and read through it to the end at some point.)
FYI for those unaware, the book is available for free from here:
https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto (https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto)
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Does he cover that in chapter 12 of his book "For a New Liberty" or is there a separate discussion he made somewhere else on the subject?
It has been covered in his other works over the years, but yes, chapter 12 of that book is the pertinent one.
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Bloat. How many of these agencies could be dissolved, or handled at the state level? https://www.usa.gov/federal-agencies/
There's is so much overlap and waste that we're probably paying triple the taxes than what's really needed. Politicians and bureaucrats use government jobs on the federal, state and local levels for political payback. Patronage. These are often unnecessary, make work jobs. People actually do little or no real work. It's sickening.
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There's is so much overlap and waste that we're probably paying triple the taxes than what's really needed. Politicians and bureaucrats use government jobs on the federal, state and local levels for political payback. Patronage. These are often unnecessary, make work jobs. People actually do little or no real work. It's sickening.
This! A thousand times this. And it’s probably far more than three times.
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Does he cover that in chapter 12 of his book "For a New Liberty" or is there a separate discussion he made somewhere else on the subject? (I admit I only ever got to chapter 5 of that book. I should start again at the beginning and read through it to the end at some point.)
FYI for those unaware, the book is available for free from here:
https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto (https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto)
Oh yeah, Murray Rothbard. It’s coming back to me. I don’t think I owned that book but my libertarian friend talked about him a lot. It’s been over forty years ago. For all I know I did read the whole thing and forgot. I can’t remember anything these days. I’m sure I read Ayn Rand though.
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Lol. Tried to delete a post. Didn’t work apparently.
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There's is so much overlap and waste that we're probably paying triple the taxes than what's really needed. Politicians and bureaucrats use government jobs on the federal, state and local levels for political payback. Patronage. These are often unnecessary, make work jobs. People actually do little or no real work. It's sickening.
On point today!!
https://rumble.com/v11j3zb-government-needs-to-pay-its-fair-share-and-make-due-with-less.html
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What am I missing?
Entropy. Most large businesses fall apart, so there is a constant renewal. Very few companies survive more than 100 years.
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Entropy. Most large businesses fall apart, so there is a constant renewal. Very few companies survive more than 100 years.
Funny, I just watched a video where a guy said that same thing about all empires and especially all Marxist and communist ones. I’ll have to find it, it was brilliant. The guy is all of 20 years old and has a massive grasp of history, philosophy, religion and geo politics. Said he dropped out of college if I recall and hiked the Appalachian trail. I gotta find out more about this guy. He might even be smarter than Styxhexenhammer666.