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Spin Zone / Re: Why San Diego? It could have been Texas
« on: December 21, 2018, 09:49:19 AM »
May want to credit the author.

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Spin Zone / Why San Diego? It could have been Texas
« on: December 21, 2018, 09:44:45 AM »


Why San Diego? It could have been Texas 

 
1300 miles vs 2700 miles.....why the long route

 
It is often said that a picture is worth a thousand words. That is certainly true with
respect to the massive migrant caravan from Central America that has arrived in Tijuana.
 
In this case, the picture is the map below. The blue path is the one that the migrants took
to the San Ysidro Port of Entry at Tijuana/San Diego, CA.
 
The red path is the one that they could have taken to the Hidalgo Port of Entry at Reynosa/McAllen, TX:

Notice the difference? The path to McAllen is approximately 1,300 miles long; whereas
the path to San Diego is approximately 2,700 miles long. So the caravan travelled more
than twice as far as it needed to.
 
Why in the world would they do that? They didn’t have their own vehicles, and they
weren’t carrying enough food or resources to justify the longer journey.
There are two reasons. The first reason can be summed up in two words: Ninth Circuit.
The caravan members have been advised by liberal immigration attorneys all along.
Not only were the migrants coached on what to say when claiming asylum, they were
also evidently coached on where to go.
 
Traveling the extra 1,400 miles to Tijuana/San Diego would take the migrants to the
Ninth Circuit of the U.S. Court of Appeals, with its numerous judges willing to minimize
the President’s statutory authority to restrict entry of aliens into the United States. And
the presence of similar federal judges at the district level in California would increase the
probability that the migrants’ attorneys would obtain an initial ruling in their favor.
 
And that’s exactly what happened. When President Trump exercised his authority under
8 U.S.C. 1182(f) to “impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate,” a federal judge in San Francisco issued a temporary restraining order blocking the President’s action. The Ninth Circuit will likely agree with the district judge. Even if the Trump Administration prevails in any appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court, it will take at least a year to reverse the district judge’s ruling.
 
The second reason for traveling twice the distance is that California is a sanctuary state with dozens of sanctuary cities like Los Angeles and San Francisco. Those jurisdictions will actively seek to protect the migrants who enter illegally from deportation.
 
On top of that, the state may interfere more directly with federal immigration enforcement. State Attorney General Xavier Becerra said recently that he might sue the federal government to stop the use of tear gas to defend the border or to stop the federal government from shutting down ports of entry. His argument is full of holes, but with the right judge that might not matter.

In contrast, in Texas, law enforcement agencies like the Texas Department of Public Safety cooperate with federal officials to improve border enforcement. To be sure, there are some sanctuary cities in  Texas too; but it’s nothing like California.
 
In short, the migrants’ attorneys made sure that the caravan went the extra mile—or extra 1,400 miles—to arrive where the rule of law is the weakest in the United States. And their advice appears to be paying off. Federal immigration enforcement personnel can still prevail, but the playing field is tilted against them.

Kris W. Kobach is the elected Secretary of State of Kansas. An expert in immigration law and policy, hecoauthored the Arizona SB-1070 immigration law and represented in federal court the 10 ICE agents who sued to stop Obama’s 2012 DACA executive amnesty. During 2001-03, he served as U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft’s chief adviser on immigration and border security at the U.S. Department of Justice. His website is kriskobach.com.

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Spin Zone / Re: GoFundMe Wall Project
« on: December 21, 2018, 09:38:18 AM »
Oh look, those silly people have now raised over $12 million for their silly project.

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Pilot Zone / Re: Surrender your Sporting Rifles or Face Prosecution
« on: December 21, 2018, 08:46:48 AM »

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Spin Zone / Re: GoFundMe Wall Project
« on: December 21, 2018, 08:42:28 AM »
You can keep on your theme that they're my heroes all you want, but I've never once claimed that they are. I've also already acknowledged that Congress is also to blame for this, but you conveniently skipped over that part. I just don't accept that Trump is completely blameless in this. If you don't agree, just move on. Right?

 You're trying to place blame on something that, in your words, is "silly".   That, or you seriously don't understand how bills are created and passed.

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Spin Zone / Re: GoFundMe Wall Project
« on: December 21, 2018, 08:38:44 AM »
How in the world did you get that out of what I said, especially given what you quoted?

I got the same message.   Your condescending bullshit on how private citizens wish to spend their money, and your fuckin' "silly" remarks.

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Spin Zone / Re: GoFundMe Wall Project
« on: December 21, 2018, 08:36:41 AM »
I'm throwing it in because if the president wanted this over the last two years, when Republicans controlled both chambers of Congress, he could've worked harder on it than he has. It's now the 11th hour, a "shut down" (such as it is) looms, Republicans lose the House in January and along with it any shot at a border wall, and he said earlier this week that he wouldn't sign the budget, then he would, now he won't again. He's meeting with Senate Republicans this morning. This is something he should've done well before now.

 

 Where have you been for the past two years??  And how many times has your hero, your "pure conservative" Paul Ryan kicked the can down the road?  And how many times has McConnell pulled the wall budget back and told us "now is not the time"?

 And Trump has pounded on them to get this done, over and over.

 You can't accept that your icons led by Ryan and McConnell had a golden opportunity and fucked it all up.   Put the fuckin' blame on those who actually own it.

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Spin Zone / Re: GoFundMe Wall Project
« on: December 21, 2018, 08:04:52 AM »
Yep, that's a fair point and legitimate concern. I haven't said otherwise. They could have also repealed Obamacare and didn't. There are reasons why Republicans lost the House. But to completely absolve Trump of this when he's had the House and Senate for the last two years isn't right. There's enough blame to go around.

Who said "completely absolve Trump"??  And why are you throwing this in?   The discussion is the failure of the Republican controlled house and senate, and their failures.  The President doesn't control the legislative branch, so he hasn't had, in your words, the house and senate for the last two years.   He has said, over and over, to put these bills on his desk (immigration, border protection and repeal of ACA) and he would sign them.

 

Private citizens are welcome to spend their money however they see fit. I'm telling you how I view this, and that it's silly because it's something that Congress should be doing.

 A congress full of professional politicians that usurp the will of the people that put them in office.  The GoFundMe is, if nothing else, a protest and a show of unity.

I don't understand where you're going with this. We don't require our service members to purchase their own weapons or ammunition.

 Don't understand sarcasm do you?


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Spin Zone / Re: GoFundMe Wall Project
« on: December 21, 2018, 07:30:29 AM »
No, and I hope this is one thing the liberals can’t ruin.

Bet they’ll say all those little contributions came from Russian bots, just like those several hundred thousand WalkAway testimonials on Facebook.

They just can’t imagine that anyone, or even 53 million anyones, could disagree with them.

It's already started.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6518823/Triple-amputee-veteran-founded-GoFundMe-Trumps-border-wall-comes-scrutiny.html

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump does an about face
« on: December 21, 2018, 07:08:59 AM »
I still think a lot of them are being blackmailed. Every person in the world has dirt on them, if you call making a clumsy pass at a girl when you were a teen "dirt", and we have seen this played out in the worst way. No one wants to be the next Kavanaugh.

Social shaming and career destruction because your mother said the n word thirty years ago. The Dems now use this as normal acceptable business as usual. May they all burn in hell.

 They are being blackmailed by their own, in more ways than one.

 Go against the leadership and they can make life very difficult.  Committee positions as well as being able to get items put in a bill will go away if one goes against the will of leadership.  Also, as we've seen in the senate, go against McConnell and he will actually spend money during the election to defeat those who dare defy him.

 DC is a sewer populated with the worse vermin, and we keep electing them, over and over.   Power corrupts.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump does an about face
« on: December 21, 2018, 07:03:20 AM »

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump does an about face
« on: December 21, 2018, 06:43:32 AM »
Yet those same establishment types got tax cut legislation passed and the Senate got two Supreme Court nominees confirmed (despite Democrat's best efforts, especially on the latter).

I don't discount that the establishment is a roadblock in many instances, but Republicans, as a whole, support stricter border security and enforcement than Democrats.

Really?   And 2 years in a majority they have done?

Sorry, they talk a good game.  When it comes down to action, they can't seem to find their balls and blame someone else.

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Spin Zone / Re: GoFundMe Wall Project
« on: December 21, 2018, 06:39:44 AM »
The campaign promise was that Mexico was going to pay for the wall, which was silly since they aren't going to do that. That aside, Congress is supposed to appropriate the money, which comes from taxpayers. So now taxpayers are donating money to a wall that Congress should be funding? No, sorry, this is silly. The messaging piece is fine in that it's showing American's concern for border security, but Americans shouldn't be giving more of their money to this; we already pay taxes. Congress needs to fund it.

And what happened to all those R's that ran on it, and promised it?   2 years of holding both the house and senate, and they just couldn't seem to do anything about it.  Now that is silly, and pathetic.

 As for how private citizens wish to spend their money?  Why is that any of your concern?  If you don't agree, move on.  But it's condescending to belittle others in how they spend their own money for whatever they want, even if it's something the pathetic politicians won't do.

 Just imagine back in the 1700's if we had people who were saying "Ya know, we shouldn't have to buy our own ammunition, or even use our own guns to serve in this militia, the government needs to pay for it!"

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