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Title: Please Respond: Next Job Be For Outsed UPenn President Liz MaGill??
Post by: Number7 on December 11, 2023, 06:58:51 AM
With UPenn president liz magill rejoining the work force, where should she land????

Now that the board of trustees have kicked her bigoted ass to the curb for her blatant anti-semitism, what is next for the academic idiot?

The Babylon Bee is suggesting lizzy go head up the hamas institute of technology. I'll bet lizzy will look hot in a burka covering her from head to toe, and when she learns to submit to her betters, she can become the radical, psychotic islamic bitch she always wished.

Just because there is no such thing is no reason for lizzy the bigoted idiot to rest of her laurels. She needs to head out and start up the new HIOT - hamas institute of technology and begin offering expert guidance in:

infant rape and beheading
drugging fighters to generate sadistic violence against defenseless women and children
starvation as a political tool
and
cowardice above honor.

I think she's perfect for the task and she'll be among her own kind while she does it.

What say you???
Title: Re: Please Respond: Next Job Be For Outsed UPenn President Liz MaGill??
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on December 11, 2023, 07:04:34 AM
I thought she was just demoted back to being a department head? Did I miss, the rest of the story?
Title: Re: Please Respond: Next Job Be For Outsed UPenn President Liz MaGill??
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on December 11, 2023, 07:07:55 AM
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The university said Magill will remain a tenured faculty member at the university’s Carey Law School. She has agreed to keep serving as Penn’s leader until the university names an interim president.

https://apnews.com/article/new-york-governor-antisemitism-colleges-israel-gaza-ae1294d644b3305cc51e8d9bb7252766
Title: Re: Please Respond: Next Job Be For Outsed UPenn President Liz MaGill??
Post by: Number7 on December 11, 2023, 07:30:35 AM
https://apnews.com/article/new-york-governor-antisemitism-colleges-israel-gaza-ae1294d644b3305cc51e8d9bb7252766

My understanding from family who live near the U say she is gone, but is being allowed to 'save face' for a little while.  Leftists always take care of their bigoted brethren...
Title: Re: Please Respond: Next Job Be For Outsed UPenn President Liz MaGill??
Post by: nddons on December 11, 2023, 08:08:31 AM
I’m sure she will find a less visible place at Penn yet somehow end up to be the second highest compensated employee in the Pennsylvania University system.

Thank God these donors are wising up. That’s the ONLY reason she was fired. I’m sure she was treated like a conquering hero when she returned to campus after doing battle with big bad Elise Stefanik.
Title: Re: Please Respond: Next Job Be For Outsed UPenn President Liz MaGill??
Post by: Username on December 11, 2023, 10:24:42 AM
Fired from her job as president of the university, but there is very little short of murder that will get a tenured professor totally removed.
Title: Re: Please Respond: Next Job Be For Outsed UPenn President Liz MaGill??
Post by: Mase on December 11, 2023, 11:16:05 AM
..., but there is very little short of murder that will get a tenured professor totally removed.

Of her, or by her?
Title: Re: Please Respond: Next Job Be For Outsed UPenn President Liz MaGill??
Post by: Anthony on December 11, 2023, 12:19:37 PM
She's staying in a tenured faculty position at Penn's law school.  Figures.
Title: Re: Please Respond: Next Job Be For Outsed UPenn President Liz MaGill??
Post by: Username on December 11, 2023, 12:46:26 PM
Of her, or by her?
Both :)  Academic misconduct (like faking research data), sexual misconduct, or some felonies like misappropriating funds can get you removed.  Even if you suck at teaching they most they can do is give you an office in the basement and (ironically) overload you with teaching (which you suck at) until you leave.

Tenure should allow faculty to say and do research on things that are currently unpopular.  That's "academic freedom".  Yeah, she should not be in a position that represents her university and say something as stupid and wrong as she did.  She was rightly removed from that position.  However, as tenured faculty she should have the freedom to say it.  Stupid and wrong as it is.
Title: Re: Please Respond: Next Job Be For Outsed UPenn President Liz MaGill??
Post by: jb1842 on December 11, 2023, 01:06:57 PM
Both :)  Academic misconduct (like faking research data), sexual misconduct, or some felonies like misappropriating funds can get you removed.  Even if you suck at teaching they most they can do is give you an office in the basement and (ironically) overload you with teaching (which you suck at) until you leave.

Tenure should allow faculty to say and do research on things that are currently unpopular.  That's "academic freedom".  Yeah, she should not be in a position that represents her university and say something as stupid and wrong as she did.  She was rightly removed from that position.  However, as tenured faculty she should have the freedom to say it.  Stupid and wrong as it is.

Depends on the research and who's footing the bill. Shrimps running on treadmills or condom use of gay people in South America, no. Researching some alternative cure for cancer, yes. I also believe in free speech, but also being held accountable for your speech. Personally, fuck all these leftist "academics". For years they have been attacking conservative speakers who have been trying to speak on campus accusing them of hatred and inciting violence. Now they are trying to hide behind free speech while defending terrorists who murder babies and innocent people. They deserved to be fired.
Title: Re: Please Respond: Next Job Be For Outsed UPenn President Liz MaGill??
Post by: nddons on December 11, 2023, 03:29:36 PM
Both :)  Academic misconduct (like faking research data), sexual misconduct, or some felonies like misappropriating funds can get you removed.  Even if you suck at teaching they most they can do is give you an office in the basement and (ironically) overload you with teaching (which you suck at) until you leave.

Tenure should allow faculty to say and do research on things that are currently unpopular.  That's "academic freedom".  Yeah, she should not be in a position that represents her university and say something as stupid and wrong as she did.  She was rightly removed from that position.  However, as tenured faculty she should have the freedom to say it.  Stupid and wrong as it is.
Tenure is an artificial construct, and shouldn’t be bulletproof.  If you cause discredit to your institution, create or embrace a physically dangerous culture, or damage fundraising or recruiting because you have diarrhea of the mouth, they should be free to can your ass.
Title: Re: Please Respond: Next Job Be For Outsed UPenn President Liz MaGill??
Post by: Username on December 11, 2023, 06:00:46 PM
Tenure is an artificial construct, and shouldn’t be bulletproof.  If you cause discredit to your institution, create or embrace a physically dangerous culture, or damage fundraising or recruiting because you have diarrhea of the mouth, they should be free to can your ass.
In the case of the idiot president (not FJB, the university one) there are four reasons for termination of a tenured professor:

    Incompetence
    Immoral conduct
    Violation of school policies
    Negligence

Penn has a school policy of:
The University of Pennsylvania prohibits unlawful discrimination based on race, color, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, religion, creed, national or ethnic origin, citizenship status, age, disability, veteran status, or any other legally protected class.

It would be easy to show that by her actions she discriminates against Jews and therefore violates school policy.  She should be dismissed from the university.

Tenure should not be a get out of jail free card.  I personally don't believe in tenure and that professors should be periodically reviewed and if found lacking, terminated. 
Title: Re: Please Respond: Next Job Be For Outsed UPenn President Liz MaGill??
Post by: Rush on December 11, 2023, 07:33:14 PM
I gotta think tenure was from the old days when to be a professor you adhered to a higher standard of moral and professional conduct than expected from the general public and tenure was earned and deserved. Most professors were probably male and so had families to support. Professor salaries are lower than other white collar professions so tenure as job security was a trade off for the lower pay. It made sense. Today the quality of many professors is in the toilet and it’s become a lazy person’s easy mode career for the nonproductive.
Title: Re: Please Respond: Next Job Be For Outsed UPenn President Liz MaGill??
Post by: Old Crow on December 17, 2023, 12:17:15 PM
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-15/harvard-college-sees-early-applications-drop-17-from-last-year
Title: Re: Please Respond: Next Job Be For Outsed UPenn President Liz MaGill??
Post by: Bamaflyer on December 18, 2023, 08:45:50 PM
CNN or MSNBC
Title: Re: Please Respond: Next Job Be For Outsed UPenn President Liz MaGill??
Post by: Number7 on December 19, 2023, 05:18:33 AM
CNN or MSNBC

She might end up at cnn, but msnbc would wet their pants to have claudine gay as their mouthpiece.

Imagine a pathological plaugerist AND a public ally proud Jew hater in one package…
Title: Re: Please Respond: Next Job Be For Outsed UPenn President Liz MaGill??
Post by: Little Joe on December 19, 2023, 05:30:07 AM
She might end up at cnn, but msnbc would wet their pants to have claudine gay as their mouthpiece.

Imagine a pathological plaugerist AND a public ally proud Jew hater in one package…
AND a black woman at that.  Now if only she were actually gay (or trans) she would be revered as a deity by the dems.