PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Anthony on December 19, 2018, 09:07:07 AM
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I think this is a good thing! Will liberal/progressives (Democrats) acknowledge Trump is doing the right thing here?
The U.S. military is preparing to withdraw its forces from Syria, people familiar with the matter said Wednesday, a move that marks an abrupt reversal of the American military strategy in the Middle East.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-military-preparing-for-a-full-withdrawal-of-its-forces-from-northeastern-syria-11545225641
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I think this is a good thing! Will liberal/progressives (Democrats) acknowledge Trump is doing the right thing here?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-military-preparing-for-a-full-withdrawal-of-its-forces-from-northeastern-syria-11545225641
The establishment and the military industrial complex will fight this. War zones are big business.
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The establishment and the military industrial complex will fight this. War zones are big business.
And it is CORRUPT as HELL. I've seen it on the inside. The money is HUGE, and Eisenhower was right.
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We need to be out of Afghanistan too.
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We need to be out of Afghanistan too.
Yep. The fact that our people are still getting killed by IEDs is ridiculous.
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Yep. The fact that our people are still getting killed by IEDs is ridiculous.
They are just "the cost of doing business". $800 Billion+ has been spent there of our money, most going to very lucrative civilian contracts and contractors.
50,000+ lives lost in VN for much the same cause, but lots of companies made $millions$ in the process.
War is big business.
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And what are we doing in Somalia and Yemen?
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I'd like to see the Mango Mussolini comment now Mike.
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A thought occurred to me today.
This Syria pull out has a purpose. Trump is goring someone's ox by doing this. Big contracts are gonna fall.
Any bet on the back room negotiating going on right now?
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I don't see why we don't spend that $800 billion on a damn wall.
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A thought occurred to me today.
This Syria pull out has a purpose. Trump is goring someone's ox by doing this. Big contracts are gonna fall.
Any bet on the back room negotiating going on right now?
Take a look at which Rep or Senator he would love to shove it to then who is the big military contractor in their district. Had the same thought myself.
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Right on cue, the MSM is pointing out that this is "Isolationist" and that ISIS isn't really beaten yet, and if we give up now, they will come back and that Trump is a traitor.
Actually, they may have a point (except for the "traitor" part). But the ONLY reason they are right is because they are going to find fault with ANYTHING Trump does, even if it is what they want. Where were they when Obama withdrew troops and the opposition took it as an opportunity to expand. They blamed it on Bush.
Actually, I did hear on one new channel (I forget which, but I don't think it was Fox) that said Trump didn't really say ISIS is defeated. We have taken back all their land and it is not up to others to fight the remaining factions.
Oh, and that land we "took back"? We didn't keep it.
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Apparently, Congress is full of folks who love perpetual war and world policing. Rand Paul is the one bright spot.
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Apparently, Congress is full of folks who love perpetual war and world policing. Rand Paul is the one bright spot.
Guys on both sides of the aisle bought and paid for by the Defense Industry.
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Gotta admit that Congress no longer belongs to the people, for the people. Bought and paid for by business.
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Apparently, Congress is full of folks who love perpetual war and world policing. Rand Paul is the one bright spot.
It's big business. Big lucrative contracts.
Example, Afghanistan. Look at the number of civilian contractors there.
Start with the motor pool. All civilian run. Mess Halls? All civilian run and operated. Plus logistics, again, civilian run. These are huge contracts, this is why we have poured $800 billion plus into this operation.
Last time I checked, diesel fuel delivered to Afghanistan (and we use a lot) is over $20/gallon delivered, again, civilian run.
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It's big business. Big lucrative contracts.
Example, Afghanistan. Look at the number of civilian contractors there.
Start with the motor pool. All civilian run. Mess Halls? All civilian run and operated. Plus logistics, again, civilian run. These are huge contracts, this is why we have poured $800 billion plus into this operation.
Last time I checked, diesel fuel delivered to Afghanistan (and we use a lot) is over $20/gallon delivered, again, civilian run.
In addition the DOD employs armed civilian contractors to do security, transport stuff, fly, etc in these theaters of operation. These are mostly ex military that work for the equivalent of what used to be BlackRock which is now dissolved. These are often paid, private soldiers doing stuff the military doesn't want to do anymore. They are very well paid, and these contracts are HUGE.
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We need to be out of Afghanistan too.
CNN claims Trump is considering that, too. That was one of his election promises I wish he'd have kept. When CNN reports that "officials are concerned" that no doubt means Trump will be under a lot of pressure to keep that forever-war going. Wont be long now till people born after that war started will be old enough to join the military and fight there.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/20/politics/trump-afghanistan-announcement/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/20/politics/trump-afghanistan-announcement/index.html)
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I see no reason not to continue paying those contractors. Just move them all to the southern border.
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An interesting perspective on and “translation” of Mattis’ resignation.
Translation: I'm a sellout, I violated my oath of service, and I never had any intention of actually defending American national interests, much less defending the Constitution against its enemies, foreign and domestic. So, I'm resigning in a hissy fit because you're not on board with unwinnable perma-war in the Middle East.
It's just as well. Notice the Mad Poodle's focus on diplomatic marketing gimmicks, "the common defense", and the solidarity of alliances with countries that have less ability to project military force than the average Mexican drug cartel. This guy wasn't a warrior, he was just another corrupt globalist bureaucrat dressed up in a snappy military uniform, complete with fruit salad and red heels. And notice the telling phrase "defense of our citizens and ideals" rather than "our nation and our Constitution".
What is Mattis's legacy? Women in the special forces, trannies in the military, and losing a hopeless proxy war to the Russian-Iranian-Syrian alliance in the Middle East? How very impressive. It kind of reminds you of Julies Caesar and Alexander the Great, does it not? Jimmy Carter's hapless SecDef could have accomplished as much.
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/12/the-mad-poodle-resigns.html
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And now, Afghanistan.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-administration-is-considering-substantial-afghan-troop-drawdown-11545341452
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https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/21/new-york-times-editorial-syria/
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https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/21/new-york-times-editorial-syria/
God, I hate the New York Times.
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