PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on September 14, 2019, 09:00:32 AM
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So I ask this of our liberal and democrat, as well as democrat leaning participants.
Are you ok with the positions of the DNC? Are you OK with the current front runners for the democrat party presidential hopefuls?
Here is what the democrat party currently stands firmly on:
Abortion up to, and after birth of a child.
Gun confiscation
Increasing taxes on everyone.
Medicare for all
Open borders
Medical benefits for illegal aliens
Free college/ forgive all student debt
There are a few more, but I would really like to hear why the above will benefit us all.
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Do we have any Leftists here except the occasional Michael hit and run?
Free healthcare and Free College for Illegal Aliens
Reparations for LGBT and Blacks
Carbon and fossil fuel taxes
Higher Income Taxes
Banning Internal Combustion Engine Cars
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I would like to hear why any, of all of this, is in our best interest.
Also, I’d like to hear how this is a winning strategy?
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No cows no cars no planes.
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I might be the most left-leaning person still here (which is not saying a lot), and I certainly wouldn't venture to defend this crap.
The DNC is committing political suicide if they truly endorse reparations (even for blacks, and I haven't heard about reparations for LGBT, is that really a thing?), carbon taxes, and banning internal combustion cars. And free college for illegal aliens? Holy moley... simply unbelievable.
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The progressives made a huge breakthrough with the election of election of BHO. They had a radical in the White House, and final realization of the “fundamental transformation” of the US (communism).
Except BHO was a flop as a President. He was inept, and without the constant care of his handlers he was unable to function. The final nail was when he got caught up in celebrity.
Hillary was suppose to take the mantle until they could get another Marxist in the WH. When that failed, the progressives went bizerk.
They had it in their hands, ready for the taking. And lost it in an election that wasn’t suppose to happen.
Now the mask is off, and they have revealed themselves in a suicidal attempt to convince a majority to follow them into full blown Marxism.
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I suspect that all the violence against MAGA hat wearing citizens is a dress rehearsal for the poll violence that will accompany the election next year.
Don’t be surprised when people are threatened, beaten and maybe doused with gasoline and set on fire for failing to vote for the proper candidate and watch mayors in democrat controlled concentration camps, I mean cities, to order police to stand down.
The left can’t win. They have to murder their way back into power.
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I suspect that all the violence against MAGA hat wearing citizens is a dress rehearsal for the poll violence that will accompany the election next year.
Don’t be surprised when people are threatened, beaten and maybe doused with gasoline and set on fire for failing to vote for the proper candidate and watch mayors in democrat controlled concentration camps, I mean cities, to order police to stand down.
The left can’t win. They have to murder their way back into power.
I propose we all wear blue hats with jackasses on them when we vote in 2020.
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The DNC platform is twofold. Giveaways, and Trump Hate. That's it.
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The DNC platform is twofold. Giveaways, and Trump Hate. That's it.
That’s a given.
But in all seriousness, with the absolute craziness we’re witnessing, do they honestly believe they have the winning message?
Here’s another huge liability. With the exception of maybe 3, none of the others have a chance in hell of getting the nomination. They know this. This is why they are proposing all of the crazy stuff, they’ll never have to do it. But, in the mean time, it drives the party to the far left. And it’s destroying the party.
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That’s a given.
But in all seriousness, with the absolute craziness we’re witnessing, do they honestly believe they have the winning message?
Here’s another huge liability. With the exception of maybe 3, none of the others have a chance in hell of getting the nomination. They know this. This is why they are proposing all of the crazy stuff, they’ll never have to do it. But, in the mean time, it drives the party to the far left. And it’s destroying the party.
Even Biden has been forced to be even farther Left than he is. They are all trying to out Commie each other. Biden calls himself the "most progressive" of the bunch.
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Even Biden has been forced to be even farther Left than he is. They are all trying to out Commie each other. Biden calls himself the "most progressive" of the bunch.
That’s what’s so unusual. The progressives (communist) have taken over and have full control of the DNC. They are a minority, but yet they control the party. Yet, everything they are doing (abortion, open borders, free everything, Medicare for all, reparations, gun control, raising taxes) is guaranteeing party destruction come November 2020.
Is that the plan? Or is this the long game, declaring their true intentions and work up from there?
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The DNC platform is twofold. Giveaways, and Trump Hate. That's it.
Actually, they are threefold.
Hate Trump
Free Stuff.
Tax the Productive into non-productivity.
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Actually, they are threefold.
Hate Trump
Free Stuff.
Tax the Productive into non-productivity.
The real agenda is the total destruction of America.
The democrat (communist) party IS the enemy our parents taught us that we would have to defeat to assure the continued existence of our nation.
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The real agenda is the total destruction of America.
The democrat (communist) party IS the enemy our parents taught us that we would have to defeat to assure the continued existence of our nation.
Where does this America hate come from? Why do they want to turn us into the Europe we left? I believe it is the outgrowth of the 60's Vietnam and Civil rights protesters where it became in vouge to overly dislike your country. Patriotism that the WWII generation had was/is now archaic to these people. Yet, they take all the economic and other benefits of being an American.
They want to CHANGE something that works, and has worked for a long time. Yes, it has flaws, but everything does. Yes, it is to consolidate power, and the Globalists behind the Democrats must be stopped.
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Where does this America hate come from? Why do they want to turn us into the Europe we left? I believe it is the outgrowth of the 60's Vietnam and Civil rights protesters where it became in vouge to overly dislike your country. Patriotism that the WWII generation had was/is now archaic to these people. Yet, they take all the economic and other benefits of being an American.
They want to CHANGE something that works, and has worked for a long time. Yes, it has flaws, but everything does. Yes, it is to consolidate power, and the Globalists behind the Democrats must be stopped.
Maybe your question is rhetorical but I’ll try to answer. There have always been socialists and communists in the U.S. but they rose to power as you say, from the 60’s when the young generation had to deal with Vietnam. I’m going from personal feeling and trying to extrapolate. I can remember being age 14 and watching the daily dead American boys count each day on TV. Being a stupid 14 year old, that inclined me to side with the anti-war left, but with caveat: I never demonstrated against the war. In fact the only street demonstration I ever participated in was a pro life rally. (On the side of pro life, of course.)
And of course I would never disrespect soldiers, because my IQ was sufficiently high, even as a stupid 14 year old, to be able to distinguish between a soldier doing his duty (especially if forced by the draft) and the politicians calling the shots. However I did not yet grasp the deeper political machinations, nor the basics of military strategy, and so did not understand that our war effort was hampered and crippled by the very homefront sentiment I myself was feeling. Thank God I wasn’t old enough to vote.
But the most important thing is that I never, ever equated being against the war with being for economic collectivism (i.e. socialism/communism). Unfortunately some of my generation did. They confused being appalled at the endless jungle warfare with being in favor of our very enemy in that war, which to me is an unforgivable leap. By the time I was 14 there were already many in universities who had come under the influence of post modernism (a.k.a. Marxism in thin disguise). It was easy for them to take the crop of stupid youth of my generation and brainwash them into directing their hate for the war into hate for the idea of the United States of America itself.
I went in another direction. By the time I was in college I was firmly libertarian (free market capitalism and socially liberal on some issues, still conservative on at least one - abortion).
But I grew up among that generation and have insight into how it happened. My very friends had to register for the draft: it was not like WWII when we were directly threatened by Pearl Harbor and all of Europe was embroiled in war, including threats to our own shipping and coasts. Then, you enthusiastically signed up because it was personal. For Vietnam, this was a country we barely knew existed with no more threat to us than a vague allusion by politicians about “stopping the spread of communism”, when most of us did not even know what “communism” was (because at that point post modernism had not yet filtered down into locally run primary schools). All we knew was we were being asked to go die on the other side of the planet for unfathomable reasons.
The unforgivable tack of the left, in retrospect, was to tie being against the U.S. getting involved in that conflict with being for the enemy of our purported friend in South Vietnam, and by extension all leftist regimes up to and including the Superpower and our enemy in the Cold War (USSR).
Therefore I think the left, already planting footholds in universities, used Vietnam as an accelerant, ultimately leading to the conflagration we have today, which hopefully will destroy the DNC instead of spreading to the half of us who are still sane.
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When you see the left in the process of self-immolation, I recommend stepping out of the way and letting it happen.
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When you see the left in the process of self-immolation, I recommend stepping out of the way and letting it happen.
Or do what Trump does and add a little gas to the fire.
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Or do what Trump does and add a little gas to the fire.
That works too.
I predict this election season will be 1,000% more entertaining than Trump’s 2016 campaign. Trump’s Twitter Tempo is going to be spot on. “Little Marco” will be child’s play compared to what he will unleash against the dem candidates.