PILOT SPIN

Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: nddons on November 03, 2016, 05:00:59 PM

Title: DRL Drone Racing "Pilots"
Post by: nddons on November 03, 2016, 05:00:59 PM
OMG. Now that my Cubs are World Champions, I'm flipping through the vast TV wasteland and saw a show by this title. It's categorized as "aviation' and the dorks at the controls of their little gaming unit are called "pilots." 

I guess that's all we pilots are now. Little gamers.

Ugh.
Title: Re: DRL Drone Racing "Pilots"
Post by: InTheSoup on November 03, 2016, 11:29:24 PM
And to think people are amazed at how they go so fast and are so skilled at flying. Not much to worry about without your own life on the line like the real deal, but thats the next generation. They will convince themselves they are better than the last.
Title: Re: DRL Drone Racing "Pilots"
Post by: Mr Pou on November 04, 2016, 04:45:38 AM
Perspective.

 I go to my wife's cow-orker party, and most of the guys are golfers. Someone complains about a bad round of golf, and how hard it was to play that day. Big deal, hit a bad ball, and IT goes into the woods. I hose up a corner on the motorcycle when out strafing twisties, and I go into the woods. Or if we muff an approach to minimums, WE'RE the ones in the woods.

Perspective. I've never been interested in gaming, I prefer to do things in real life, with real skills and consequences. But that takes time, skill, commitment, and resources, things that are hard to come by when your butt is planted on the basement couch.
Title: Re: DRL Drone Racing "Pilots"
Post by: DJTorrente on November 04, 2016, 06:41:23 AM
I flipped past something on ESPN2 last night which can only be described as an infomercial for DRL.  Heavy on interviews, light on the actual racing.  In what race footage they did show it was very difficult to follow the action, even though each drone was covered with distinct colored LEDs.  The courses were set up in abandoned shopping malls and parking structures -- it had a very "Mad Max" or "Running Man" post-apocalyptic feel, even though DRL itself didn't seem to be playing into that for kitsch value.

I wouldn't bet on it being on-air next year, regardless of what the players call themselves.
Title: Re: DRL Drone Racing "Pilots"
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 04, 2016, 07:28:27 AM
My EAA Chapter participated in a local Maker Faire.  There was drone racing right next to our location.  It was interesting to watch.  Kind of hard to keep up with the action though.
Title: Re: DRL Drone Racing "Pilots"
Post by: asechrest on November 04, 2016, 08:27:22 AM

Why the animosity toward what seems to be a fun hobby and involves things flying through the air? There is a whole community of folks printing/building these drones and then doing all sorts of things with them. And I bet some of them catch the real flying bug eventually.
Title: Re: DRL Drone Racing "Pilots"
Post by: Little Joe on November 04, 2016, 09:05:25 AM
Why the animosity toward what seems to be a fun hobby and involves things flying through the air? There is a whole community of folks printing/building these drones and then doing all sorts of things with them. And I bet some of them catch the real flying bug eventually.
Because amateurs can be dangerous, and we don't trust the government to set up a good, fair and efficient system to control it.

Also because many fear they will cut into their income stream.  How would you like to have a few hundred thousand dollars tied up in your airplane for your air photography business and lose job after job to a drone that can do the job for a tenth the price, or less.
Title: Re: DRL Drone Racing "Pilots"
Post by: asechrest on November 04, 2016, 09:17:03 AM
Because amateurs can be dangerous, and we don't trust the government to set up a good, fair and efficient system to control it.

Also because many fear they will cut into their income stream.  How would you like to have a few hundred thousand dollars tied up in your airplane for your air photography business and lose job after job to a drone that can do the job for a tenth the price, or less.

The complaint didn't seem to be centered around the airspace clash. I just think that, with all the cane-waving about how kids never do anything these days, it's silly to bash a vibrant community of young people doing cool things. Don't you think it's cool that kids 3D CAD design drone parts, 3D print them in their homes, assemble them including associated electronics, and then fly and race them?
Title: Re: DRL Drone Racing "Pilots"
Post by: Little Joe on November 04, 2016, 09:35:40 AM
The complaint didn't seem to be centered around the airspace clash. I just think that, with all the cane-waving about how kids never do anything these days, it's silly to bash a vibrant community of young people doing cool things. Don't you think it's cool that kids 3D CAD design drone parts, 3D print them in their homes, assemble them including associated electronics, and then fly and race them?
I most certainly do.  And that gives me some hope for the future generation.

But I also see the dangers that lack socializing with real people can cause, and I have no idea if video games contribute at all to the very real obesity problem we have today.  Of course, in "my day" old people complained about all the television we watched, then all the loud music we listened to, then all the drugs we did etc etc etc...

The biggest problem I have with young people today is their parents.  Helicopter parents have ruined a whole generation.
Title: Re: DRL Drone Racing "Pilots"
Post by: Jim Logajan on November 04, 2016, 10:29:11 AM
The biggest problem I have with young people today is their parents.  Helicopter parents have ruined a whole generation.

I don't know if such parenting is responsible or otherwise causal, but something has caused a decline in unintentional fatal injuries of people under 19 as indicated by the following chart:

(http://www.childtrends.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/122_fig1.jpg)
Title: Re: DRL Drone Racing "Pilots"
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 04, 2016, 10:32:51 AM
Hard to get fatally injured playing video games and watching various screens. Real-life activities have probably declined as virtual ones rise, like Wii.

Title: Re: DRL Drone Racing "Pilots"
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 04, 2016, 10:37:02 AM
It would be interesting to see the increase in childhood obesity over the same time period (and don't forget the impact of obesity on overall health)


Title: Re: DRL Drone Racing "Pilots"
Post by: Little Joe on November 04, 2016, 10:38:42 AM
I don't know if such parenting is responsible or otherwise causal, but something has caused a decline in unintentional fatal injuries of people under 19 as indicated by the following chart:

(http://www.childtrends.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/122_fig1.jpg)
Can you find a chart on young people's ability to mentally cope with problems as adults or college students?
Title: Re: DRL Drone Racing "Pilots"
Post by: Jim Logajan on November 04, 2016, 11:48:20 AM
Can you find a chart on young people's ability to mentally cope with problems as adults or college students?

If there were some quantifiable characteristic that exists that directly or indirectly related to such a thing, and someone had been dutifully surveying it over the last few decades, such a chart might actually be constructed. I have no idea whether such a thing exists.

It is interesting to do a google image search using the keywords 'millennials vs baby boomers'. None of the infographics and charts that are found seem terribly helpful regarding mental coping, but some of the charts that include "Millennials" vs "Generation X" vs "Baby Boomers" vs "Greatest Generation" are interesting, though beats me what can be concluded.

Title: Re: DRL Drone Racing "Pilots"
Post by: asechrest on November 04, 2016, 12:14:10 PM
Can you find a chart on young people's ability to mentally cope with problems as adults or college students?

That question offends me. I'm retreating to my safe space.
Title: Re: DRL Drone Racing "Pilots"
Post by: DJTorrente on November 04, 2016, 12:24:03 PM
Can you find a chart on young people's ability to mentally cope with problems as adults or college students?

Or more abrasively, think of all the dim bulbs who would have been culled from the herd but for helicopter parenting? [TIC]
Title: Re: DRL Drone Racing "Pilots"
Post by: asechrest on November 04, 2016, 12:45:40 PM
Or more abrasively, think of all the dim bulbs who would have been culled from the herd but for helicopter parenting? [TIC]

Let it be known that some of us younger folks (though I ain't no Millennial) didn't get the Safe Space™ gene, aren't perpetuating it, and are proud of that.
Title: Re: DRL Drone Racing "Pilots"
Post by: Little Joe on November 04, 2016, 01:14:56 PM
Let it be known that some of us younger folks (though I ain't no Millennial) didn't get the Safe Space™ gene, aren't perpetuating it, and are proud of that.
I have absolutely no doubt of that. Otherwise you would have left here a long time ago.
Title: Re: DRL Drone Racing "Pilots"
Post by: nddons on November 04, 2016, 01:23:11 PM
Why the animosity toward what seems to be a fun hobby and involves things flying through the air? There is a whole community of folks printing/building these drones and then doing all sorts of things with them. And I bet some of them catch the real flying bug eventually.
The animosity (to use your term - I guess I would rather call it irritation) towards calling these people "pilots" is two-fold. First, unless you would call me a 9-year old "pilot" for flying my Cox line-controlled Mustang around in circles until I threw up, then I don't think these guys playing three-dimensional Miss Pacman are "pilots." 

Second, on a more macro basis, I deplore the absconding of the English language so people can feel better about themselves.

Marriage doesn't mean what it used to mean for millennia.

Gender no longer has meaning.

Journalists are anything but.

Conservative is a pejorative.

Being a Patriot is hate speech.

And being a pilot no longer means someone who flies themselves in an aircraft through the air, or in a vessel through hazardous waters.

Title: Re: DRL Drone Racing "Pilots"
Post by: asechrest on November 04, 2016, 01:51:33 PM
Alright. It doesn't seem that serious to me, though. They are typically referred to as "drone pilots". Are you upset at Maritime Pilots (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritime_pilot)?  ;)

[Edit] - Just noticed you included maritime pilots in your response. Be honest: you looked it up, didn't you! (I did!)
Title: Re: DRL Drone Racing "Pilots"
Post by: Jim Logajan on November 04, 2016, 02:16:16 PM
Alright. It doesn't seem that serious to me, though. They are typically referred to as "drone pilots". Are you upset at Maritime Pilots (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritime_pilot)?  ;)

[Edit] - Just noticed you included maritime pilots in your response. Be honest: you looked it up, didn't you! (I did!)

Pilots!? I thought this thread was about pirates! Damn my hard of seeing! Time for some Gilbert and Sullivan "The Pirates of Penzance":

A life not bad for a hardy lad,
Though surely not a high lot,
Though I’m a nurse, you might do worse
Than make your boy a pilot.
...
And I did not catch the word aright,
Through being hard of hearing;
Mistaking my instructions,
Which within my brain did gyrate,
I took and bound this promising boy
Apprentice to a pirate.

("When Frederic was a little lad" lyrics: http://www.gilbertandsullivanarchive.org/pirates/web_op/pirates02.html (http://www.gilbertandsullivanarchive.org/pirates/web_op/pirates02.html))

One performance of G&S's little ditty:
Title: Re: DRL Drone Racing "Pilots"
Post by: Little Joe on November 04, 2016, 02:35:07 PM
Conservative is a pejorative.

Perhaps to some, but not nearly to the extent that I consider "liberal' to be a pejorative.  And I admit to some liberal tendencies.  When I refer to a "Liberal" as a pejorative, I mean they are liberal to their core.  That philosophy has not basis in logic or reason.
Title: Re: DRL Drone Racing "Pilots"
Post by: Anthony on November 05, 2016, 01:27:36 AM
No risk, no reward.