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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Rush on June 24, 2023, 04:10:42 AM

Title: Russia coup attempt
Post by: Rush on June 24, 2023, 04:10:42 AM
No, Prigozhin is not better than Putin. Better hope it fails.

https://twitter.com/ChengWeiLai2/status/1672437113726566400
Title: Re: Russia coup attempt
Post by: Bamaflyer on June 24, 2023, 07:22:36 AM
Probably propaganda. Article I read awhile ago:

So WHAT is going on?

Russian has fooled the media before. The same Prighozin famously published a video claiming his troops were completely out of ammo — right before taking Bahkmut. During the now-failed Ukraine Spring CounterOffensive™, Russian forces repeatedly used a false-retreat strategy to dupe the Ukrainian forces. When attacked, the Russians would fall back in apparent disarray, leading the Ukrainians into a trap.

And the Ukrainians kept falling for it, over and over, till they’d lost.


Could this sudden “internal turmoil” could be a larger version of the same tactic? In other words, the Ukrainians, having all but conceded defeat of their glorious counteroffensive, are now being sorely tempted: should they scrape together a final all-out assault to take advantage of Russia’s apparent internal disarray?²

Before forming any opinions about what is or isn’t happening, just WAIT a few days, because this story appears to be a perfect psyop narrative — two giant personalities facing off against each other in a murky, high-stakes conflict: Putin versus Prigozhin. The whole contretemps could “resolve” with one phone call.

The one thing we know for sure is: we have no idea what’s really going on. Even though all of corporate media’s cherry-picked armchair military experts are completely confident, which is the usual giveaway.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/distracting-beasts-saturday-june?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Title: Re: Russia coup attempt
Post by: Jim Logajan on June 24, 2023, 08:02:05 AM
This is pretty straightforward, IMHO. Prigozhin has been fighting for power for years. His power comes from his business interests which funded his private army. The Russian MoD has set July 1 as the date his private army must sign contracts to the MoD, removing his sole source of power and influence. He allegedly tried to negotiate some compromise but the MoD didn't budge. Prigozhin has been publicly dissing the top MoD generals for much of the war. There is a lot of animosity between both sides. Putin seems to play such competing interests against each other and has assumed this is a safe strategy.

Prigozhin had to either accept the loss of power and influence or go all-in. He obviously chose the latter. His core fighters may be loyal, but beyond that he isn't likely to find much support. He probably has a small window of opportunity since such an act has caught the Kremlin by surprise.

On a local political level I think this turn of events could help Biden and hurts both Trump and RDS. Add in the disconnect between the GOP and the public on abortion and I think we may be looking at another 4 years of Biden (or other Democrat) even if the voting were clean.
Title: Re: Russia coup attempt
Post by: Old Crow on June 24, 2023, 09:23:00 AM
Vietnam taught me that truth is the first causality in any war.
Title: Re: Russia coup attempt
Post by: Anthony on June 24, 2023, 11:07:33 AM
Vietnam taught me that truth is the first causality in any war.

And I guarantee our expensive military equipment and supplies are being sold to the highest Mercernary Army bidder.
Title: Re: Russia coup attempt
Post by: Bamaflyer on June 24, 2023, 12:13:59 PM
Appears to be over before it even began!

BREAKING: Rebelling Wagner Troops Stand Down After Reaching 125 Miles of Moscow, Will Return to Bases in Ukraine - Belarusian Lukashenko Brokered the Negotiations Between Prigozhin and Russian

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/breaking-rebelling-wagner-troops-stand-down-after-reaching/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=breaking-rebelling-wagner-troops-stand-down-after-reaching
Title: Re: Russia coup attempt
Post by: Rush on June 24, 2023, 12:22:22 PM
Well that was anti-climactic.
Title: Re: Russia coup attempt
Post by: Lucifer on June 24, 2023, 01:16:08 PM


On a local political level I think this turn of events could help Biden and hurts both Trump and RDS. Add in the disconnect between the GOP and the public on abortion and I think we may be looking at another 4 years of Biden (or other Democrat) even if the voting were clean.

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