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Title: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: nddons on February 04, 2022, 04:57:34 PM
Ok, I’m not a craft beer snob nor a wine snob nor a bourbon snob. However, I do like moving on from some of the basics like Makers Mark and trying new things.

This one came at the recommendation of a friend, and it’s really good. It’s got a little heat, but very tasty.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220204/5e8b44b5ad488b24ae6f7765cf09c7f5.jpg)


Any other opinions from those of you who occasionally partake in fantastic adult beverages?  Gym rats like Anthony can’t respond as they probably just drink Vitamin Water and green shakes.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: TimRB on February 04, 2022, 06:29:09 PM
I'm the opposite of a Bourbon snob.  I can, and do, drink anything and like it.  It's a gift.  Sometimes friends will gift me a nice bottle of expensive Bourbon and I never have the heart to tell them that for me a twenty dollar Costco bottle of Jim Beam is the cat's meow.  Expensive booze is wasted on me.

Tim
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Dweyant on February 04, 2022, 06:45:34 PM
I’m more of a scotch guy.  Glenmorangie Signet is one of my favorites, but I like almost anything :)
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: nddons on February 04, 2022, 06:52:03 PM
I'm the opposite of a Bourbon snob.  I can, and do, drink anything and like it.  It's a gift.  Sometimes friends will gift me a nice bottle of expensive Bourbon and I never have the heart to tell them that for me a twenty dollar Costco bottle of Jim Beam is the cat's meow.  Expensive booze is wasted on me.

Tim
I’m not either. I was just trying to get people to look at this post.

I have my regulars (Makers Mark, Knob Creek, etc.) but I like to try different things.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: nddons on February 04, 2022, 06:56:13 PM
I’m more of a scotch guy.  Glenmorangie Signet is one of my favorites, but I like almost anything :)
I would love to be a Scotch snob like my brother, but those better Scotches are like taking a bite out of some peat moss. I’d rather have a cheaper Cutty Sark or J&B.

However, I DO like Irish whiskey. It gives me some of that peat flavor without overpowering me. I like Bushmills Black (A/k/a Black Bush), Powers, Tullemore Dew.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on February 04, 2022, 07:23:17 PM
For me, Scotch only exists to play a role in the Rusty Nail. Equal parts Ardbeg (or Lagavulin) and Drambuie.

Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Rush on February 04, 2022, 07:24:33 PM
I say I like bourbon but don’t actually ever drink it. But I love a bourbon ball. That’s because my Vice is chocolate, sugar, carbs. The bourbon flavor is nice.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Ron22 on February 04, 2022, 08:36:31 PM
I like to go to small distilleries and taste before I buy. Support the little guy, some really good one some not so much.


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Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on February 05, 2022, 02:35:48 AM
Well Stan, as you know, I lived in Kentucky for almost 4 years, so I know a tad about Bourbon. Never drank it before that, but the locals didn't like that, so off to the Bourbon distilleries I went.  I settled on Woodford Reserve as my go to Bourbon.  Yes, I do occasionally partake after the gym of course.   :)

All real Bourbon is made in Kentucky.  Sour Mash isn't Bourbon.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Little Joe on February 05, 2022, 07:08:26 AM
Well Stan, as you know, I lived in Kentucky for almost 4 years, so I know a tad about Bourbon. Never drank it before that, but the locals didn't like that, so off to the Bourbon distilleries I went.  I settled on Woodford Reserve as my go to Bourbon.  Yes, I do occasionally partake after the gym of course.   :)

All real Bourbon is made in Kentucky.  Sour Mash isn't Bourbon.
I. Have settled on Woodfords reserve as my everyday choice too.
But I also agree with Ron22 that going to small distillery tastings can find some excellent choices.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: nddons on February 05, 2022, 07:10:14 AM
Well Stan, as you know, I lived in Kentucky for almost 4 years, so I know a tad about Bourbon. Never drank it before that, but the locals didn't like that, so off to the Bourbon distilleries I went.  I settled on Woodford Reserve as my go to Bourbon.  Yes, I do occasionally partake after the gym of course.   :)

All real Bourbon is made in Kentucky.  Sour Mash isn't Bourbon.
Well played sir!
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Little Joe on February 05, 2022, 07:12:11 AM
This is the one I keep hidden under the counter.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Little Joe on February 05, 2022, 07:13:57 AM
Well that didn’t work well.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Rush on February 05, 2022, 07:24:05 AM
This is the one I keep hidden under the counter.

How did you make gravity go sideways like that?
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on February 05, 2022, 07:26:57 AM
Stop tilting the camera

Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on February 05, 2022, 10:03:10 AM
How did you make gravity go sideways like that?

He was drinking the Bourbon while taking the photo.  Right Joe?  Be honest.    ;D
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Ron22 on February 05, 2022, 11:35:36 AM
As long as you are not the type is snob that.
Only drink well known high price brands, even know they can’t taste any difference.   The insult you saying they would never drink that cheap stuff
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Ron22 on February 05, 2022, 11:36:37 AM
He was drinking the Bourbon while taking the photo.  Right Joe?  Be honest.    ;D
Drank to much Bourbon and fell down trying to take picture this was best on his way down.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Little Joe on February 05, 2022, 01:30:35 PM
He was drinking the Bourbon while taking the photo.  Right Joe?  Be honest.    ;D
No, not WHILE taking the photo.  I couldn't.

I broke my foot last month and have been stuck in the house with my foot in a "boot" and couldn't do much besides work play on the internet.  Now, I have carpal tunnel syndrome and my wrist hurts too bad to drink and take pics at the same time.  I gotta do them one at a time.

I could try to fix the pics, but it take too many mouse clicks and it's the damn mouse that fucked up my wrist.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: nddons on February 05, 2022, 02:11:47 PM
No, not WHILE taking the photo.  I couldn't.

I broke my foot last month and have been stuck in the house with my foot in a "boot" and couldn't do much besides work play on the internet.  Now, I have carpal tunnel syndrome and my wrist hurts too bad to drink and take pics at the same time.  I gotta do them one at a time.

I could try to fix the pics, but it take too many mouse clicks and it's the damn mouse that fucked up my wrist.
Get a MacBook Pro. It took me a while to get used to using the pad instead of a mouse, but I like it now.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on February 05, 2022, 02:46:34 PM
Get a MacBook Pro. It took me a while to get used to using the pad instead of a mouse, but I like it now.

just be aware that using a trackpad too much will also cause problems.

Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Mr Pou on February 07, 2022, 06:44:17 AM
For the most part I'm a low brow bourbon drinker. Evan white label is just fine with me, especially with a few drops of water added to open it up. Every once in a while I might splurge and get Elijah Craig small batch.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on May 17, 2022, 03:49:38 PM
I tried Basil Hayden again.  Meh, not interested.   I'll stick with Woodford.   I may try Elijah Craig Small Batch though.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: nddons on May 17, 2022, 07:33:16 PM
I tried Basil Hayden again.  Meh, not interested.   I'll stick with Woodford.   I may try Elijah Craig Small Batch though.
It’s officially gin season in Stan’s world. See you in October!


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Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: jb1842 on May 19, 2022, 12:30:34 PM
It’s officially gin season in Stan’s world. See you in October!


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Bombay Sapphire with tonic used to be my go to drink. Can't remember why I stopped....might have to see if I have any in stock.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: nddons on May 19, 2022, 01:18:02 PM
Bombay Sapphire with tonic used to be my go to drink. Can't remember why I stopped....might have to see if I have any in stock.
Bombay Sapphire has been my go-to. I also like Aviation gin, and Plymouth gin.  https://www.plymouthgin.com/en-EN/our-gins
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on May 19, 2022, 04:14:40 PM
Not a gin drinker at all.  But Cheers!  I make a good Gin or Vodka Martini though.

Got another bottle of Woodford now that the Basil Hayden is almost gone,  thank God.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on June 14, 2022, 04:56:52 AM
The quest for the perfect value Bourbon continues.  Tried Elijah Craig Small Batch and liked it, but not enough to switch.  Also tried Larceny Small Batch which I like a lot especially for the price point.  $27 plus change and sales tax in Commie PA Proletariat Stores.  Bourbon needs to be over 90 proof.  Basil Hayden is 80.  Ugh.  Just awful.  Elijah Craig is 94, Larceny 92 and Woodford 90.4.  All good but Woodford is still the best to me, but a good $10/bottle more than Larceny and maybe $6 - $8 over Elijah Craig per bottle. 

Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Mr Pou on June 22, 2022, 05:10:36 AM
Anthony, try one bottle of Evan Williams white label (aka bottled in bond). Shockinly good for the price, and another one to try for a little more is Four Roses yellow label.

https://evanwilliams.com/bottled-in-bond-bourbon?cta=bottled-in-bond

https://fourrosesbourbon.com/bourbon/four-roses-bourbon/

Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on June 22, 2022, 06:29:29 PM
Anthony, try one bottle of Evan Williams white label (aka bottled in bond). Shockinly good for the price, and another one to try for a little more is Four Roses yellow label.

https://evanwilliams.com/bottled-in-bond-bourbon?cta=bottled-in-bond

https://fourrosesbourbon.com/bourbon/four-roses-bourbon/

Thanks Pou.  I'll try them.  I appreciate the recommendations and will report back.  I've been to Four Rose's distillery when I lived in Kentucky but don't know much about Evan Williams but they also have a good reputation.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on June 30, 2022, 05:55:33 PM
Pou's the man.  Bought a bottle of Evan Williams Small Batch,  90 proof, $17 and Evan Williams Bottled in Bond 100 proof, $15 and they're both excellent for the $$.  Can't decide which I like better.   Maybe the Small Batch, slightly, but both very drinkable as sipping Bourbons.  Very nice.   Not Woodford but that is $39.  Thanks for the recommendation!
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on November 14, 2022, 02:29:14 PM
I've been drinking Elijah Craig Small Batch. It's excellent.  A little more in your face than Woodford but very smooth.

Joe, I think you'd like it since you drink Woodford too. Still liking the Evan Williams 1783 Small Batch.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: nddons on November 14, 2022, 07:53:56 PM
Last night on the premier of season 5 of Yellowstone they had the cowboys all ordering a double Buffalo Trace at the inauguration party.

I called my brother who will be moving to Idaho in a few years and ask him if he’s replacing all his bourbon and beer with Buffalo Trace and Coors Banquet beer. Lol

Sure enough a massive Buffalo Trace ad followed that segment. Yea capitalism!!
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on November 15, 2022, 05:27:47 AM
Last night on the premier of season 5 of Yellowstone they had the cowboys all ordering a double Buffalo Trace at the inauguration party.

I called my brother who will be moving to Idaho in a few years and ask him if he’s replacing all his bourbon and beer with Buffalo Trace and Coors Banquet beer. Lol

Sure enough a massive Buffalo Trace ad followed that segment. Yea capitalism!!

I'd buy Buffalo Trace in a heartbeat. Discovered it when I lived in Kentucky.  However, in PA, with it's archaic, communist State Store system it is rarely available.  They get little in and it sells out immediately.  I've tried and no joy.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: nddons on November 15, 2022, 05:47:44 AM
I'd buy Buffalo Trace in a heartbeat. Discovered it when I lived in Kentucky.  However, in PA, with it's archaic, communist State Store system it is rarely available.  They get little in and it sells out immediately.  I've tried and no joy.
I can rarely find it in Wisconsin either. I have my brother get it at Binny’s Beverage Depot in Illinois when it’s available. Binny’s is a massive logout store chain. It’s heaven.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: jb1842 on November 15, 2022, 05:57:28 AM
I can rarely find it in Wisconsin either. I have my brother get it at Binny’s Beverage Depot in Illinois when it’s available. Binny’s is a massive logout store chain. It’s heaven.

Not even at Woodman's or Otto's? Those were always my go to place when I couldn't find stuff at the local stores. There was a place on National or Lincoln around the 80 blocks if I remember that was pretty well stocked, too.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: nddons on November 15, 2022, 06:07:03 AM
Not even at Woodman's or Otto's? Those were always my go to place when I couldn't find stuff at the local stores. There was a place on National or Lincoln around the 80 blocks if I remember that was pretty well stocked, too.
I’m not near a Woodman’s but a colleague is and you’re right, he finds good stuff there.

I go to Otto’s in Elm Grove and have never seen Buffalo Trace there.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Mr Pou on November 16, 2022, 06:54:33 AM
Another good tasting value bourbon is Benchmark, it's pretty damned good with a few drops of water, and excellent as a mixing bourbon for bourbon manhattans and the like. Benchmark is a product of Buffalo Trace distillery.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Rush on November 16, 2022, 08:00:25 AM
Another good tasting value bourbon is Benchmark, it's pretty damned good with a few drops of water, and excellent as a mixing bourbon for bourbon manhattans and the like. Benchmark is a product of Buffalo Trace distillery.

I know nothing about drinking hard stuff.  What does “a few drops of water” do?  Dilute only?  Why wouldn’t “one teaspoon” of water per ounce be a more exact formula?  Does it matter what kind of water?  Is filtered water better than tap?  How about bottled?  A good brand I mean, distilled and then just the right amount of electrolytes added for flavor.

This is the kind of exactitude I go through for my coffee.  I would think a drink deserves the same.  Only to me the alcohol overwhelms my mouth so much I can’t taste anything else so a good whiskey is wasted on me no matter how you tweak it.  Unless you mix it with butter, sugar, flour, and/or nuts and chocolate, then it’s like heaven.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on November 16, 2022, 08:35:01 AM
I know nothing about drinking hard stuff.  What does “a few drops of water” do?  Dilute only?  Why wouldn’t “one teaspoon” of water per ounce be a more exact formula?  Does it matter what kind of water?  Is filtered water better than tap?  How about bottled?  A good brand I mean, distilled and then just the right amount of electrolytes added for flavor.

This is the kind of exactitude I go through for my coffee.  I would think a drink deserves the same.  Only to me the alcohol overwhelms my mouth so much I can’t taste anything else so a good whiskey is wasted on me no matter how you tweak it.  Unless you mix it with butter, sugar, flour, and/or nuts and chocolate, then it’s like heaven.

When I lived in Kentucky the natives told me the right way to drink Bourbon is with a splash of RAIN Water. So yes, the water helps to open up the flavor of the Bourbon.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on November 16, 2022, 08:36:37 AM
Another good tasting value bourbon is Benchmark, it's pretty damned good with a few drops of water, and excellent as a mixing bourbon for bourbon manhattans and the like. Benchmark is a product of Buffalo Trace distillery.

I'll see if I can find it in PA. If not a lot of people I know go to DE or NJ for their booze as the prices are much better and so is the selection.

However, it is technically illegal to bring in alcohol from outside the Commonwealth of PA.  Ive heard the cops set up check points and will pull people over if they suspect you're bringing in alcohol.  So I'd never do that.

Totally constitutional, right?
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: nddons on November 16, 2022, 08:51:11 AM
I know nothing about drinking hard stuff.  What does “a few drops of water” do?  Dilute only?  Why wouldn’t “one teaspoon” of water per ounce be a more exact formula?  Does it matter what kind of water?  Is filtered water better than tap?  How about bottled?  A good brand I mean, distilled and then just the right amount of electrolytes added for flavor.

This is the kind of exactitude I go through for my coffee.  I would think a drink deserves the same.  Only to me the alcohol overwhelms my mouth so much I can’t taste anything else so a good whiskey is wasted on me no matter how you tweak it.  Unless you mix it with butter, sugar, flour, and/or nuts and chocolate, then it’s like heaven.
I rely on some ice melt to create that dilution. I don’t like refrigerator-made cubes however, which uses tap water. I buy some clear cube ice for my bourbon drinking.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Rush on November 16, 2022, 09:23:22 AM
I rely on some ice melt to create that dilution. I don’t like refrigerator-made cubes however, which uses tap water. I buy some clear cube ice for my bourbon drinking.

You can buy that?  I agree, fridge made ice is the worst.  I insisted on no ice maker last time we bought a fridge and I made my own cubes from whatever water I wanted.  But I lost that battle when we moved and I’ve had to take whatever POS fridge was in the new house.  Ice makers just take up space and are prone to problems (jams, leaks, mechanical failure and nowadays even electronic board failure.)
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Little Joe on November 16, 2022, 10:35:14 AM
You can buy that?  I agree, fridge made ice is the worst.  I insisted on no ice maker last time we bought a fridge and I made my own cubes from whatever water I wanted.  But I lost that battle when we moved and I’ve had to take whatever POS fridge was in the new house.  Ice makers just take up space and are prone to problems (jams, leaks, mechanical failure and nowadays even electronic board failure.)
My ice maker is fed from a reverse osmosis filter under the sink.  I just replaced an older RO system that worked ok, but the pressure was lacking.  There is also some issue with RO systems taking ALL the minerals out, but some certain minerals are supposed to be good for you.  My new RO has plenty of pressure and puts out a more balanced water using some sort of alkaline filter.  I don't know the science or the chemistry behind it, but I do know the water looks and tastes great, and so do the ice cubes.  But they are not crystal clear.  That cloudiness comes from air in the water, not minerals or impurities.

But I don't like any water (or ice) in my Bourbon or Scotch.  I have tried it many times and I like it neat and room temperature better.
To each his own.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Rush on November 16, 2022, 11:42:31 AM
My ice maker is fed from a reverse osmosis filter under the sink.  I just replaced an older RO system that worked ok, but the pressure was lacking.  There is also some issue with RO systems taking ALL the minerals out, but some certain minerals are supposed to be good for you.  My new RO has plenty of pressure and puts out a more balanced water using some sort of alkaline filter.  I don't know the science or the chemistry behind it, but I do know the water looks and tastes great, and so do the ice cubes.  But they are not crystal clear.  That cloudiness comes from air in the water, not minerals or impurities.

But I don't like any water (or ice) in my Bourbon or Scotch.  I have tried it many times and I like it neat and room temperature better.
To each his own.

I’ve looked into those RO systems, not for fridge but whole house, and you are right, no minerals at all is not good.  The systems that leave some in, I think I do remember them being some kind of hybrid with filters or something, making a “balanced” water, are much better than standard water softeners which solve your fixture deposit problem but you can’t drink it.  That is what you’d want for freezer made ice.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: nddons on November 16, 2022, 05:40:15 PM
You can buy that?  I agree, fridge made ice is the worst.  I insisted on no ice maker last time we bought a fridge and I made my own cubes from whatever water I wanted.  But I lost that battle when we moved and I’ve had to take whatever POS fridge was in the new house.  Ice makers just take up space and are prone to problems (jams, leaks, mechanical failure and nowadays even electronic board failure.)
You can. Even standard grocery store or gas station ice is usually clear, but it’s often in chips or tiny cubes.  At higher end grocery stores or liquor stores you can get cocktail-sized ice cubes. If it’s clear in a glass of water, it should be good for your drink imo. The cloudy fridge ice is No me gusta.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: nddons on November 16, 2022, 05:46:41 PM
I’ve looked into those RO systems, not for fridge but whole house, and you are right, no minerals at all is not good.  The systems that leave some in, I think I do remember them being some kind of hybrid with filters or something, making a “balanced” water, are much better than standard water softeners which solve your fixture deposit problem but you can’t drink it.  That is what you’d want for freezer made ice.
In our house we had an iron filter and RO system because our well was only about 55’ deep. The water was excellent. Out water softener was only for laundry, the kitchen sink and dishwasher, and bathrooms. We had a non-softened separate faucet in the kitchen and into the refrigerator for ice. We also bypassed the softener for our outside faucets.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on April 10, 2023, 09:16:06 AM
So, I have some time on my hands.  Thought I'd give a Bourbon update.  My new favorite is Russell's Reserve, 10 year old, made by the guys at Wild Turkey.  Not cheap, but worth it.  Beat out Elijah Craig, Small Batch (although I still buy it as it's cheaper) and Woodford Reserve (in the rear view mirror). 

https://www.breakingbourbon.com/review/russells-reserve-10-year-bourbon#:~:text=Russell%E2%80%99s%20Reserve%2010%20Year%20is%20a%20small%20batch,bourbons%2C%20it%E2%80%99s%20made%20from%20their%20single%20bourbon%20mashbill. (https://www.breakingbourbon.com/review/russells-reserve-10-year-bourbon#:~:text=Russell%E2%80%99s%20Reserve%2010%20Year%20is%20a%20small%20batch,bourbons%2C%20it%E2%80%99s%20made%20from%20their%20single%20bourbon%20mashbill.)
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Steingar on April 10, 2023, 09:58:19 AM
For awhile I was getting discounted booze at a local grocers and drank pretty much whatever they had around.  Some good, some really good.  They shut that down, so I'm back to buying whatever I can get.  On of my wife's friends gave me a bottle of Buffalo Trace for my birthday, boy do I like that!  There's a local distillery that makes a really good bourbon, but expensive.  I've had Russell's Reserve, don't recall being that impressed.  I do like Woodford though.  I'm very much a bourbon snob, I can easily tell the difference between rotgut and the good stuff.  I like the good stuff, but mostly can't afford it.  Maybe once the airplane is gone I'll be able to drink better.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on April 10, 2023, 10:23:02 AM
Had Buffalo Trace when I lived in Kentucky.  Really liked it and it's a good value.  Can't get it in PA due to the state run liquor store system. Can't get Eagle Rare either which I've never had but hear is really, really good.

I wasn't impressed with Russell's at first either. It really grew on me. Love it now.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Little Joe on April 10, 2023, 10:46:23 AM
For awhile I was getting discounted booze at a local grocers and drank pretty much whatever they had around.  Some good, some really good.  They shut that down, so I'm back to buying whatever I can get.  On of my wife's friends gave me a bottle of Buffalo Trace for my birthday, boy do I like that!  There's a local distillery that makes a really good bourbon, but expensive.  I've had Russell's Reserve, don't recall being that impressed.  I do like Woodford though.  I'm very much a bourbon snob, I can easily tell the difference between rotgut and the good stuff.  I like the good stuff, but mostly can't afford it.  Maybe once the airplane is gone I'll be able to drink better.
Perhaps if you'd think more about economics when you vote, you could afford more of the good stuff.  ;)

I've been through all of the ones mentioned here, plus quite a few more.  I have found that my favorite is Weller Special Reserve.  But it is hard to get.  My local liquor store only gets in one case at a time on occasional Mondays.  And you have to be there early on the random Monday that it arrives and they only sell you one bottle a day.  But the woman at the counter the other day said if I go out and come back in wearing a hat and sunglasses she might sell me another bottle.  And at $22/750 ml it is cheaper than my other favorites and much cheaper than my favorite Scotch.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Steingar on April 11, 2023, 07:01:27 AM
Perhaps if you'd think more about economics when you vote, you could afford more of the good stuff.  ;)

I've been through all of the ones mentioned here, plus quite a few more.  I have found that my favorite is Weller Special Reserve.  But it is hard to get.  My local liquor store only gets in one case at a time on occasional Mondays.  And you have to be there early on the random Monday that it arrives and they only sell you one bottle a day.  But the woman at the counter the other day said if I go out and come back in wearing a hat and sunglasses she might sell me another bottle.  And at $22/750 ml it is cheaper than my other favorites and much cheaper than my favorite Scotch.

I love Weller Special Reserve even if it isn't bourbon (they brew it with wheat). I agree it's a really great value, and goodness me is it hard to get here.  You get the liquor store at the specific time when the stuff shows up and you can get it.  Sorry, I have a life.  And even if I didn't it isn't that big a deal to me. I like booze, but not that much.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on April 11, 2023, 07:51:02 AM
Right now, my favorite Bourbon list is as follows:

Woodford Reserve Double Oaked - tastes a bit like Cognac to me, but at $63+tax/750ml it's just an occasional treat.

Russell's Reserve 10 Year - Notch below the above, but due to 10 years aging it gets close. Plus, it's got a nice Bourbony Vanilla going for it.  Tastes more like a traditional Bourbon than hinting Cognac. At $42+tax/750ml still expensive but I can deal with it more on a regular basis.

Elijah Craig Small Batch - Buttery, a bit sweet but with a nice Bourbon/corn flavor.  $34+tax/750 ml.

Woodford Reserve Straight Bourbon - My previous favorite Bourbon in which I acquired a taste for while living in Lexington, KY.  $41+tax/750ml (official Bourbon of the Kentucky Derby)

Evan Williams Small Batch - A good daily Bourbon although short on complexity and some of the flavors above.  Still decent though.  At $20+tac/750ml a real bargain IMHO.

Buffalo Trace - Excellent Bourbon for the $$$.  Bought it a lot when I lived in Kentucky but can't get it in PA except when they either lottery it or you get lucky and arrive just after a VERY small shipment which they won't tell you when that comes in.   ::)  Effing PA, Commie Sate Store System.  PLCB sucks!
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Little Joe on April 11, 2023, 07:51:32 AM
Sorry, I have a life.
I used to have a job.  But since I retired, I now have a life.  And drinking is a big part of that life.  Going to the liquor store is almost as much fun as going to a good hardware store.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Rush on April 11, 2023, 08:46:14 AM
Right now, my favorite Bourbon list is as follows:

Woodford Reserve Double Oaked - tastes a bit like Cognac to me, but at $63+tax/750ml it's just an occasional treat.

Russell's Reserve 10 Year - Notch below the above, but due to 10 years aging it gets close. Plus, it's got a nice Bourbony Vanilla going for it.  Tastes more like a traditional Bourbon than hinting Cognac. At $42+tax/750ml still expensive but I can deal with it more on a regular basis.

Elijah Craig Small Batch - Buttery, a bit sweet but with a nice Bourbon/corn flavor.  $34+tax/750 ml.

Woodford Reserve Straight Bourbon - My previous favorite Bourbon in which I acquired a taste for while living in Lexington, KY.  $41+tax/750ml (official Bourbon of the Kentucky Derby)

Evan Williams Small Batch - A good daily Bourbon although short on complexity and some of the flavors above.  Still decent though.  At $20+tac/750ml a real bargain IMHO.

Buffalo Trace - Excellent Bourbon for the $$$.  Bought it a lot when I lived in Kentucky but can't get it in PA except when they either lottery it or you get lucky and arrive just after a VERY small shipment which they won't tell you when that comes in.   ::)  Effing PA, Commie Sate Store System.  PLCB sucks!

When are you gonna move out of that place?
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on April 11, 2023, 09:05:29 AM
When are you gonna move out of that place?

PA? Yeah, I need to start working on that.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: nddons on April 11, 2023, 10:24:10 AM
PA? Yeah, I need to start working on that.
Perky breasts have magical powers. They have made men do stupid things, or live in stupid places, since the beginning of time.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on April 11, 2023, 11:20:40 AM
Perky breasts have magical powers. They have made men do stupid things, or live in stupid places, since the beginning of time.

All true. You've got me, although I don't dislike living here at all. Except for the urbanites that have invaded and Dem policies and.....
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Little Joe on April 11, 2023, 11:46:34 AM
All true. You've got me, although I don't dislike living here at all. Except for the urbanites that have invaded and Dem policies and.....
How can you like Philly if you don't eat pizza and hoagies?
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on April 11, 2023, 01:01:38 PM
How can you like Philly if you don't eat pizza and hoagies?

I don't live in Philly.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Little Joe on April 11, 2023, 03:28:33 PM
I don't live in Philly.
Ok. Sorry.  I'm not sure how I got that idea, but it does explain how you can like where you live (ie, not Philly).
 
There are a lot of nice places in PA (if THAT is where you live), except that they all have those stupid State Stores.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on April 11, 2023, 03:45:12 PM
Ok. Sorry.  I'm not sure how I got that idea, but it does explain how you can like where you live (ie, not Philly).
 
There are a lot of nice places in PA (if THAT is where you live), except that they all have those stupid State Stores.

I should have been more clear. I live in a far northwestern suburb of Philly. The city is a good 45 minute drive if I'm lucky.  More like an hour with traffic. If I must go there I take regional rail which is 52 minutes from my local station. 

I grew up with cheesesteaks and hoagies, but like classic rock, don't really miss them. Yes, I do partake in crap food now and again although rare.   ;D

Prefer Bourbon to be bad!
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on April 11, 2023, 04:07:33 PM
I don’t see the appeal of straight alcohol. Even Woodford is harsh straight, to me, even with ice or water. But put it in a hot Whiskey Mac or mixed cocktail, and all is well.

Straight, the “cleaning fluid” chemical tastes dominate.

I know, heresy.  ::)

The other day at a new local eatery I had their signature bourbon sour topped with a float of Cabernet. Ambrosial.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on April 11, 2023, 04:11:49 PM
I like Bourbon and spring water. Enough water to dilute it but not enough to take the Bourbon flavor away and leave a little alcohol edge. Not overwhelming alcohol bite.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Little Joe on April 11, 2023, 04:36:21 PM
I don’t see the appeal of straight alcohol. Even Woodford is harsh straight, to me, even with ice or water. But put it in a hot Whiskey Mac or mixed cocktail, and all is well.

Straight, the “cleaning fluid” chemical tastes dominate.

I know, heresy.  ::)

The other day at a new local eatery I had their signature bourbon sour topped with a float of Cabernet. Ambrosial.
And some people try to say that men and women are the same.
I'm personally very happy that isn't true.
(equal maybe, but not the same).
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: nddons on April 11, 2023, 06:02:54 PM
I’ve moved into Gin season now that it’s spring in the upper Midwest. Also for the fantastic health benefits!!

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Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: jb1842 on April 11, 2023, 07:01:51 PM
I’ve moved into Gin season now that it’s spring in the upper Midwest. Also for the fantastic health benefits!!

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I drank 8 gin and tonics Saturday night with the wife bar hopping. It was not good for my health.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Rush on April 12, 2023, 03:25:00 AM
I drank 8 gin and tonics Saturday night with the wife bar hopping. It was not good for my health.

You sat at home drinking alone while the wife went bar hopping?

Or do I need to finish my coffee then read it again?
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on April 12, 2023, 03:33:41 AM
You sat at home drinking alone while the wife went bar hopping?

Or do I need to finish my coffee then read it again?

I wanna say they were together.   ;D

Not a fan of Gin but I will dabble in Scotch, Vodka and a few others on occasion.  Rare, but it happens.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: jb1842 on April 12, 2023, 04:35:27 AM
You sat at home drinking alone while the wife went bar hopping?

Or do I need to finish my coffee then read it again?

Bar hopping together. Then went to see out favorite comedian. Been awhile since I dtank that much, but we only had to walk 3 blocks from our hotel for all the stops we did.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 12, 2023, 04:46:16 AM
I drank 8 gin and tonics Saturday night with the wife bar hopping. It was not good for my health.

bar hopping without your wife might have been worse for your health
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on April 12, 2023, 04:57:18 AM
bar hopping without your wife might have been worse for your health

Not for me. 
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: jb1842 on April 12, 2023, 05:11:18 AM
bar hopping without your wife might have been worse for your health

I rarely bar hop or drink that much regularly anymore.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: nddons on April 12, 2023, 05:31:23 AM
I drank 8 gin and tonics Saturday night with the wife bar hopping. It was not good for my health.
If I need to drink for long periods of time (I.e., OSH) I drink gin and tonics. However, the sugar in the tonic screws with me and seems to make for a rough hangover.

If I want to have just a drink or two, I’ll have gin on the rocks with olives or cocktail onions. No hangover with that.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 12, 2023, 05:42:17 AM
Not for me.

Doesn’t apply to you.  You aren’t married, or are you?
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on April 12, 2023, 05:45:20 AM
If I need to drink for long periods of time (I.e., OSH) I drink gin and tonics. However, the sugar in the tonic screws with me and seems to make for a rough hangover.

If I want to have just a drink or two, I’ll have gin on the rocks with olives or cocktail onions. No hangover with that.

So essentially a very dry Martini.  I probably could do a Vodka Martini.  I actually don't remember if I've ever had one.  My ex wife (the last one) used to drink Dirty Martinis which I think is with olives and some olive juice.  It's been a while, (thankfully), so I forget.  She drank both gin and vodka martinis if memory serves. 

I've gone through beer, wine and bourbon phases over the years.  I've always drank beer but have vacillated from lighter beers to darker beers back to lighter beers.  Never drank "Lite Beer". Yuck!  Always preferred a dry red like a Cab, Malbec or similar over all other wines.  The only time I drink wine now is if having a nice dinner. 
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on April 12, 2023, 05:46:25 AM
Doesn’t apply to you.  You aren’t married, or are you?

Hell no.  Was just trying to inject a little humor.  Sorry. 
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: jb1842 on April 12, 2023, 05:52:58 AM
If I need to drink for long periods of time (I.e., OSH) I drink gin and tonics. However, the sugar in the tonic screws with me and seems to make for a rough hangover.

If I want to have just a drink or two, I’ll have gin on the rocks with olives or cocktail onions. No hangover with that.

We planned to have more than a few drinks that night. Been awhile since we went all out. Casino, bar hopping, comedy show, and no kid! And like I said, we didn't have to walk more than a few blocks the whole evening. I wasn't sure I wanted beer, and the wife ordered a vodka and tonic, so I went with gin and tonic. I'm just glad I had an appetite Sunday morning for Easter brunch. My mistake was not making sure they used top shelf gin on a few of them.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Rush on April 12, 2023, 05:55:14 AM
Doesn’t apply to you.  You aren’t married, or are you?

He has been in the past so it’s a fair comment.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 12, 2023, 06:54:26 AM
Hell no.  Was just trying to inject a little humor.  Sorry.

so was I.

Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Steingar on April 12, 2023, 07:21:18 AM
I still drink plenty, I like bourbon on the rocks.  I prefer liquor as it's the least caloric way to drink.  I prefer bourbon because you can get a really good smooth bourbon without so much coin.  To do that with Scotch takes way more coin.  Cheap Scotch is evil.

Now, if you want the BEST ice cubes you've ever had and can be made out of tap water do the following.  Find a cooler that will fit in the freezer.  Fill said cooler 3/4 of the way full with whatever water you have, it doesn't matter.  Wait overnight, empty cooler the next day.  The slow freeze will result in the purest clearest ice you've ever seen.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 12, 2023, 07:26:10 AM
I don't care who you are, but I think it's hilarioius to select your alcohol beverage of choice based on calories.

I just had to laugh.

This isn't a shot at Steingar.... believe it or not.

Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: jb1842 on April 12, 2023, 07:36:12 AM
Anybody else seen the alcohol/water filter trick? Supposedly if you filter the liquor through a britta filter or such, it removes the impurities making a smoother taste and less hangover effects while keeping the alcohol content. Not sure if true or just youtube bs.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Rush on April 12, 2023, 07:45:13 AM
I still drink plenty, I like bourbon on the rocks.  I prefer liquor as it's the least caloric way to drink.  I prefer bourbon because you can get a really good smooth bourbon without so much coin.  To do that with Scotch takes way more coin.  Cheap Scotch is evil.

Now, if you want the BEST ice cubes you've ever had and can be made out of tap water do the following.  Find a cooler that will fit in the freezer.  Fill said cooler 3/4 of the way full with whatever water you have, it doesn't matter.  Wait overnight, empty cooler the next day.  The slow freeze will result in the purest clearest ice you've ever seen.

I’ve heard a doctor recommend if you’re going to drink alcohol, drink whiskey for that very reason. Fewer calories.  But I think either way alcohol turns to sugar in your blood and raises your BS iirc.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on April 12, 2023, 09:21:47 AM
so was I.

My bad!
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Steingar on April 13, 2023, 05:35:42 AM
I don't care who you are, but I think it's hilarioius to select your alcohol beverage of choice based on calories.

I just had to laugh.

Sorry, it's a big deal to some of us.  Mixed drinks usually bring in sugar calories, beer brings in starches.  Drinking anything is caloric, there's no doubt.  But drinking straight unsweetened liquor the least caloric way to drink. That doesn't inform my choice of drink, just how I drink it.  I drink bourbon for the reasons I outlined.  Had I more money I'd drink expensive Scotch, but i don't.

This isn't a shot at Steingar.... believe it or not.

Truly a first on this site.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 13, 2023, 05:51:01 AM
aaaaaand, he doubles down.

Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Rush on April 13, 2023, 06:08:51 AM
Sorry, it's a big deal to some of us.  Mixed drinks usually bring in sugar calories, beer brings in starches.  Drinking anything is caloric, there's no doubt.  But drinking straight unsweetened liquor the least caloric way to drink. That doesn't inform my choice of drink, just how I drink it.  I drink bourbon for the reasons I outlined.  Had I more money I'd drink expensive Scotch, but i don't.

Truly a first on this site.

That’s correct, those of us with blood sugar problems do well to steer clear of mixed drinks and beer.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on April 13, 2023, 07:06:42 AM
That’s correct, those of us with blood sugar problems do well to steer clear of mixed drinks and beer.

I don't have any blood sugar issues, but I do watch what I eat and drink because I need to focus on what will make my body actually function at a high level.  However, I do drink Beer and Bourbon and water in moderation, which is my guilty pleasure as well as the occasional food craving.  My point is that I don't like sugary cocktails but would avoid them anyway as I want to limit the empty calories.  I want to taste the beverage I'm drinking without anything covering it up.  I also avoid flavored beers.  There is a plethora of them now.  Chocolate, Mango, Pumpkin, etc, etc etc.  Yuck!
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Rush on April 13, 2023, 07:25:41 AM
I don't have any blood sugar issues, but I do watch what I eat and drink because I need to focus on what will make my body actually function at a high level.  However, I do drink Beer and Bourbon and water in moderation, which is my guilty pleasure as well as the occasional food craving.  My point is that I don't like sugary cocktails but would avoid them anyway as I want to limit the empty calories.  I want to taste the beverage I'm drinking without anything covering it up.  I also avoid flavored beers.  There is a plethora of them now.  Chocolate, Mango, Pumpkin, etc, etc etc.  Yuck!

Gross!  On the very rare occasion I do drink beer, I want it to taste like beer, nothing else.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Steingar on April 13, 2023, 10:25:18 AM
I find myself in agreement, if I want beer I don't want  it supplemented with non-beer things, though there are exceptions, like a chocolate stout.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Rush on April 13, 2023, 10:44:29 AM
I find myself in agreement, if I want beer I don't want  it supplemented with non-beer things, though there are exceptions, like a chocolate stout.

Hmmmm I might have to reconsider in that case, I love chocolate.  I did have chocolate and whiskey the other day but they were separate things although I did end up dipping the chocolate into the whisky repeatedly and sucking it off (that sounds bad lol!) and the whisky incorporated some of the chocolate and became cloudy with it, and the two flavors blended together very well.  Not sure about beer though.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on April 13, 2023, 12:38:39 PM
I find myself in agreement, if I want beer I don't want  it supplemented with non-beer things, though there are eexceptions, like a chocolate stout.

Many Stouts have a Coffee and/or Cocoa flavor so that's not a stretch.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Steingar on May 24, 2023, 08:16:40 AM
CNN has a whiskey "expert" describe the 6 best bourbons.  I am in disagreement with all.

https://www.cnn.com/wbd/6-best-bourbons-according-to-a-spirits-expert/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/wbd/6-best-bourbons-according-to-a-spirits-expert/index.html)
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Lucifer on May 24, 2023, 08:20:26 AM
CNN has a whiskey "expert" describe the 6 best bourbons.  I am in disagreement with all.

https://www.cnn.com/wbd/6-best-bourbons-according-to-a-spirits-expert/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/wbd/6-best-bourbons-according-to-a-spirits-expert/index.html)

  Since when has CNN had an expert on anything?
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on May 24, 2023, 09:24:22 AM
CNN has a whiskey "expert" describe the 6 best bourbons.  I am in disagreement with all.

https://www.cnn.com/wbd/6-best-bourbons-according-to-a-spirits-expert/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/wbd/6-best-bourbons-according-to-a-spirits-expert/index.html)

I'll have to look at the list and see. Which are your favorites?
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Steingar on May 24, 2023, 09:28:33 AM
I'll have to look at the list and see. Which are your favorites?

There's a local bourbon made here called Watershed that's really good. Woodford reserve is also very very good, as is Weller special reserve when I can get it. I was just gifted a bottle of Basil Hayden and was most impressed. There's other's whose names I cannot recall, as I rarely drink anything that expensive.  Now that the airplane is gone I might start drinking higher end stuff though.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on May 24, 2023, 01:36:49 PM
There's a local bourbon made here called Watershed that's really good. Woodford reserve is also very very good, as is Weller special reserve when I can get it. I was just gifted a bottle of Basil Hayden and was most impressed. There's other's whose names I cannot recall, as I rarely drink anything that expensive.  Now that the airplane is gone I might start drinking higher end stuff though.

I used to drink Woodford Reserve until I discovered Elijah Craig Small Batch, Four Roses Small Batch and now Russell's Reserve Single Barrel Ten Year Aged.  I also like Woodford Reserve Double Oaked but that's over $60/750ml here in Commie PA and I'm not going to buy that regularly.  I am not familiar with the others on CNN's list.  Bourbon or any drink/food is a very personal taste experience. What I may really, really like may not be what you, nor others like. 

My Beer tastes change over time.  I am NOW into a lighter, more refreshing brew like Peroni Nastro Azzurro.  It's only 5.0% ABV so less than some of the other beers I was drinking like Sierra Nevada Pale Ale although I still like that and have it occasionally. 
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on May 24, 2023, 05:34:21 PM
that's over $60/750ml here in Commie PA . 
Take a ride to Wilmington.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on May 24, 2023, 05:56:01 PM
Take a ride to Wilmington.

I'd never do that. It's against the law.

Green font.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Rush on May 24, 2023, 06:19:39 PM
I'd never do that. It's against the law.

Green font.

My in laws used to do that.  I went along with them one time.  Is it illegal?  I had no frickin idea.  I was young and clueless and they were very proper establishment types.  I never would have dreamed they’d break the law.

(That was decades ago FBI, BATF, NSA, CIA, DHS or whoever the hell is snooping here, so fuck off. I’m sure statute of limitations has run out.)
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Steingar on May 25, 2023, 04:24:52 AM
My Beer tastes change over time.  I am NOW into a lighter, more refreshing brew like Peroni Nastro Azzurro.  It's only 5.0% ABV so less than some of the other beers I was drinking like Sierra Nevada Pale Ale although I still like that and have it occasionally.

You might try Kronenbourg 1664. Its French, very light and really good, one of my favorites.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on May 25, 2023, 04:50:48 AM
My in laws used to do that.  I went along with them one time.  Is it illegal?  I had no frickin idea.  I was young and clueless and they were very proper establishment types.  I never would have dreamed they’d break the law.

(That was decades ago FBI, BATF, NSA, CIA, DHS or whoever the hell is snooping here, so fuck off. I’m sure statute of limitations has run out.)

My state like many (all?) others taxes alcohol.  It's a huge money grab.  They do the same thing with cigarettes, but I don't smoke. So each bottle of booze needs a PA tax stamp, If you bring booze in from DE, NJ or anywhere else they can ticket and fine you for it.  The state cops do the enforcement typically, but some local cops get in on the money grab too, especially the ones near borders known for this stuff. 
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Rush on May 25, 2023, 06:17:50 AM
My state like many (all?) others taxes alcohol.  It's a huge money grab.  They do the same thing with cigarettes, but I don't smoke. So each bottle of booze needs a PA tax stamp, If you bring booze in from DE, NJ or anywhere else they can ticket and fine you for it.  The state cops do the enforcement typically, but some local cops get in on the money grab too, especially the ones near borders known for this stuff.

Haha, they went just over the border, stopped at some little store, loaded the trunk with booze, turned around and went back home.  As far as I know they never were caught.  Or maybe they just never told us about it!

I thought it was like when I rode with a friend to Omaha, loaded the trunk with Coors, and drove back to NC because they didn’t sell Coors in the east back then.  I don’t think that was illegal.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Anthony on May 25, 2023, 06:48:40 AM
Haha, they went just over the border, stopped at some little store, loaded the trunk with booze, turned around and went back home.  As far as I know they never were caught.  Or maybe they just never told us about it!

I thought it was like when I rode with a friend to Omaha, loaded the trunk with Coors, and drove back to NC because they didn’t sell Coors in the east back then.  I don’t think that was illegal.

I just happened to be in Delaware a few months ago and by chance drove by a big box liquor/beer/wine store just over the border from PA.  Most of the license plates in the parking lot were PA, not DE.   ;D
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Lucifer on May 25, 2023, 07:04:24 AM
I just happened to be in Delaware a few months ago and by chance drove by a big box liquor/beer/wine store just over the border from PA.  Most of the license plates in the parking lot were PA, not DE.   ;D

 The Peoples Republic of California is trying to concoct a way to force former residents to continue paying state tax to PRC after they leave. It's not unreasonable to think that PA will follow with border checkpoints and car searches looking for import "contraband".   ::)
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: nddons on June 05, 2023, 12:39:42 PM
My state like many (all?) others taxes alcohol.  It's a huge money grab.  They do the same thing with cigarettes, but I don't smoke. So each bottle of booze needs a PA tax stamp, If you bring booze in from DE, NJ or anywhere else they can ticket and fine you for it.  The state cops do the enforcement typically, but some local cops get in on the money grab too, especially the ones near borders known for this stuff.
So much for the Privileges and Immunities clause of the Constitution.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: Steingar on June 28, 2023, 05:13:57 AM
I hit some toll roads in NY on my way back from Canada.  There was a number I was supposed to call, a little difficult when riding a hi-tone race motorcycle.  Once I stopped I forgot completely.  Might be interesting to see what NY decides to do about it.  I'd call now but I forget the number.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: jb1842 on June 28, 2023, 07:15:35 AM
I hit some toll roads in NY on my way back from Canada.  There was a number I was supposed to call, a little difficult when riding a hi-tone race motorcycle.  Once I stopped I forgot completely.  Might be interesting to see what NY decides to do about it.  I'd call now but I forget the number.

Some states flag your registration with your titling state and don't let you renew tags if you don't pay the fines. New York loves their fees, so it might be worth looking into depending on how long ago it was.
Title: Re: Bourbon Snobs
Post by: nddons on June 28, 2023, 09:13:36 AM
I hit some toll roads in NY on my way back from Canada.  There was a number I was supposed to call, a little difficult when riding a hi-tone race motorcycle.  Once I stopped I forgot completely.  Might be interesting to see what NY decides to do about it.  I'd call now but I forget the number.
Those systems are a pain in the ass, and I think unlawful IMO. Making you write down a number when driving 70 mph to make a credit card payment after the fact is not workable. Either provide a way to pay cash at the time, or give a pass to people using the interstate system as it was designed.