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Title: Obama Admin - Oppressive Regime?
Post by: Anthony on January 10, 2018, 05:41:40 AM
During Obama's eight years in office, I believed Conservative, Libertarians, or anyone that did not tow the Progressive line was under siege.  Agencies within the Administration were actively going after those that weren't Party Apparatchik.  The NSA was listening to our conversations, examining our emails, texts, website posts, etc.  A big reason why I don't do Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc.  The IRA, EPA, DOJ, BATF, and other agencies were actively punishing political opponents that weren't Democrat. 

I believe that as we look back on this, it will be considered a dark age, not unlike Stalinist Russia (Soviet Union), or Nazi Germany.  Possibly, those analogies are too strong as there were no mass murders, or gulags that we know of, but the other characteristics are certainly there.

Opinions?
Title: Re: Obama Admin - Oppressive Regime?
Post by: Mr Pou on January 10, 2018, 05:53:02 AM
In a nutshell? Yes, gov't agencies have become political weapons.
Title: Re: Obama Admin - Oppressive Regime?
Post by: Lucifer on January 10, 2018, 07:15:42 AM
Frank Marshall Davis taught his young protege well.
Title: Re: Obama Admin - Oppressive Regime?
Post by: Anthony on January 10, 2018, 08:18:47 AM
It struck me this morning, that I don't feel nearly as paranoid under Trump as I did under Obama.  Maybe it was due to his Fundamental Transformation rhetoric, and polices, or his "You didn't build that!!!" mentality.  It just felt oppressively Communist to me.  As an American, it was the first time I felt like that in my lifetime.  As a registered Republican, and gun rights advocate, pilot, etc.  I thought the entire government was trying to find ways to take away my rights, and freedoms.  Looking back it was chilling.  I even watched what I said on the phone to friends.  It honestly felt like East Germany to me for a while.  All tinfoil hat stuff previously. 

Maybe I was overreacting. 
Title: Re: Obama Admin - Oppressive Regime?
Post by: Number7 on January 10, 2018, 08:29:56 AM
Anthony,

You mentioning Obama and his infamous, bullshit, "YOU didn't build that," ignorance got me thinking about the people who lined up to nod like lemmings and swear that they always felt the same way. It makes me laugh to remember aunt peggy proclaiming that people only succeeded when the government ALLOWED them to.

The real issue with that ignorance is the people, like Obama and peggy, that haven't actually accomplished much of anything (certainly nothing to get up on stage and brag about) desperate to siphon off the credit - and profits - of the work of other people, who did do big things. That behavior is a singularly liberal behavior and almost as delusional as the MMGW religionists.

If the liberals who are so insanely jealous if what others did, imagined, sweated and risked for, would spend that energy actually doing something instead of indulging their pathetic jealousy, they too could accomplish great things.

Their just too lazy, envious, greedy and petulant to try.
Title: Re: Obama Admin - Oppressive Regime?
Post by: Lucifer on January 10, 2018, 08:45:02 AM
I have to look at Barack and his Wookie and laugh now.

 Remember how he said he would go back to Community Organizing and getting involved with "the people", especially the poor, after leaving the WH?

 Yea, right.  He's too busy jet setting around the world with his billionaire buddies on one vacation after another.  Oh, and he's also involved with building his gaudy library, a library in which none of his documents will be available.

 Barack and the Wookie could give 2 shits less about the poor or minorities, he got what he needed from them, votes.  Now they are the peasants that are somebody else's problem. 
Title: Re: Obama Admin - Oppressive Regime?
Post by: Anthony on January 10, 2018, 08:57:02 AM
I know he has a VERY close relationship with Richard Branson. 

:)
Title: Re: Obama Admin - Oppressive Regime?
Post by: Lucifer on January 10, 2018, 09:04:30 AM
I know he has a VERY close relationship with Richard Branson. 

:)

 Well hey, gotta hang with your billionaire bro's ya know!
Title: Re: Obama Admin - Oppressive Regime?
Post by: nddons on January 10, 2018, 11:34:08 AM
Interestingly, last night Tucker Carlson posited that the threat to your freedom and privacy comes not from the government as much as it does with corporations that accumulate your personal data, determine what you should be exposed to, and limit your ability to speak freely. Includes Google at the top of the list, but also many others.
Title: Re: Obama Admin - Oppressive Regime?
Post by: Jim Logajan on January 10, 2018, 12:29:33 PM
The NSA was listening to our conversations, examining our emails, texts, website posts, etc.  A big reason why I don't do Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc.
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Opinions?

The NSA surveillance bot cannot get through the Pilot Spin defenses - we're good! They'd never think to intercept the non-encrypted access to a low traffic site like pilotspin.com!

(I pretty much assumed that while I was traveling and using public Wifi in airports and other such venues that my access to pilotspin.com and purpleboard.com, neither of which is set up to use https (TLS/SSL), that the passwords for those accounts would be immediately compromised.)
Title: Re: Obama Admin - Oppressive Regime?
Post by: Anthony on January 10, 2018, 01:39:21 PM
Interestingly, last night Tucker Carlson posited that the threat to your freedom and privacy comes not from the government as much as it does with corporations that accumulate your personal data, determine what you should be exposed to, and limit your ability to speak freely. Includes Google at the top of the list, but also many others.

Google, Yahoo, MSN, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc all filter your information, and speech on their media.  Of course being left wing biased it is only conservative and non-Progressive content that gets deleted.  There are no real balanced media alternatives that are near equal to these.  So if you want to use them you have to play by their rules as they are private companies.   
Title: Re: Obama Admin - Oppressive Regime?
Post by: Number7 on January 11, 2018, 08:47:10 AM
The saddest thing about modern America is how blind, stupid, and willing to follow orders our younger generations have become.

The whole low information voter thing has become a goal, instead of a thing to be avoided.

Anything is true as long as your can read it on facebook, and/or see it on what used to be news.

When a president engages in outright subversion and brags about it, because his base is so brutally blind and stupid, they cheer.
Title: Re: Obama Admin - Oppressive Regime?
Post by: Little Joe on January 11, 2018, 09:12:31 AM
The saddest thing about modern America is how blind, stupid, and willing to follow orders our younger generations have become.

The whole low information voter thing has become a goal, instead of a thing to be avoided.

Anything is true as long as your can read it on facebook, and/or see it on what used to be news.

When a president engages in outright subversion and brags about it, because his base is so brutally blind and stupid, they cheer.
The saddest thing about modern America is how fat so many young girls are.   :(
Title: Re: Obama Admin - Oppressive Regime?
Post by: Anthony on January 11, 2018, 10:13:22 AM
The saddest thing about modern America is how blind, stupid, and willing to follow orders our younger generations have become.

The whole low information voter thing has become a goal, instead of a thing to be avoided.

Anything is true as long as your can read it on facebook, and/or see it on what used to be news.

When a president engages in outright subversion and brags about it, because his base is so brutally blind and stupid, they cheer.

Obama's "FUNDAMENTAL TRANSFORMATION" flat out scared me.  I couldn't believe my ears.  Then the "You didn't build that!" speech.  As if government allows us success because of it largess.  Who built, and FUNDED government, and government infrastucture?  WE DID.  The taxpayer.  It is as if Obama, and the Dems think that government generaties its own funding, and actually creates something by itself out of nothing. 

It was just all too creepy. 


Title: Re: Obama Admin - Oppressive Regime?
Post by: bflynn on January 12, 2018, 06:25:09 AM
In general I agree.  The "Progressive" Left is actually very regressive and intolerant of anyone who does not agree with them.  That is an oppressive atmosphere.

Obama is a part of this group and the weaponization of government is the direct consequence of him placing similarly minded folks in government.  They are a danger to democracy and to freedom.
Title: Re: Obama Admin - Oppressive Regime?
Post by: Number7 on January 12, 2018, 08:57:00 AM
You need look no further than the Bureau of Land Management to see how devastatingly corrupt our government became under the traitor, obama. I was thrilled to see the federal judge toss out all charges with prejudice and declare the actions of the federal prosecutors and the BLM so out of bounds as to make a fair trial impossible.
Title: Re: Obama Admin - Oppressive Regime?
Post by: invflatspin on January 12, 2018, 09:50:26 AM
I don't disagree with anything the OP posted. Do we KNOW that most of that stuff has ended, or is much of it still in place? I'm pretty sure no one can or has reigned in the NSA, but of course - how would we know?
Title: Re: Obama Admin - Oppressive Regime?
Post by: invflatspin on January 12, 2018, 10:19:43 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-just-renewed-warrantless-surveillance-184813563.html