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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Number7 on December 06, 2021, 05:38:18 AM

Title: How Dirty Is The CIA???
Post by: Number7 on December 06, 2021, 05:38:18 AM
CIA Covered up Staff Sex Crimes Committed Against Minors

The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) was aware that at least 10 members of its staff committed alleged sex crimes against children, though only one employee was ever prosecuted, according to released documents first reported by BuzzFeed News.

One CIA employee had “inappropriate sexual activity with an unidentified two-year-old girl” and confessed to having sexual relations with a six-year-old, according to internal CIA reports dating from 2004 to 2019 accessed by BuzzFeed through Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests. The employee was fired but never charged.

Another employee allegedly bought pornographic films depicting young girls, while another claimed to have viewed thousands of sexually explicit images of children, according to the documents. These employees also were not charged with any crimes.


Typical of the CIA and FBI, you can be assured they seriously investigated themselves and found no wrongdoing.

When reached for comment, a CIA spokesperson told the Daily Caller News Foundation that the “CIA takes all allegations of possible criminal misconduct committed by personnel seriously,” while the Eastern District of Virginia, which reviewed many of the cases, told BuzzFeed that it “takes seriously its responsibility to hold accountable federal government employees who violate federal law within our jurisdiction.”


https://georgiastarnews.com/2021/12/06/cia-covered-up-staff-sex-crimes-committed-against-minors/
Title: Re: How Dirty Is The CIA???
Post by: Lucifer on December 06, 2021, 05:46:32 AM
Congress has maintained a secret slush fund to pay off accusers of sexual misconduct.  That slush fund is of course, tax payer dollars.

AFAIK congress has never revealed who has been paid off for what.   We, the serfs, are not allowed to know this, obviously.
Title: Re: How Dirty Is The CIA???
Post by: Rush on December 06, 2021, 06:33:11 AM
Not defending pedos here, but the IC routinely uses lie detector tests on its employees. They have to tell the truth. The employees, apparently unaware that lie detector tests are actually bogus, believe they’ll lose their job if they lie, and (I’m just guessing here) are probably assured their secrets won’t be prosecuted, because if they feared prosecution, you wouldn’t be able to recruit agents.

Not saying it’s right.
Title: Re: How Dirty Is The CIA???
Post by: Little Joe on December 06, 2021, 06:47:22 AM
Not defending pedos here, but the IC routinely uses lie detector tests on its employees. They have to tell the truth. The employees, apparently unaware that lie detector tests are actually bogus, believe they’ll lose their job if they lie, and (I’m just guessing here) are probably assured their secrets won’t be prosecuted, because if they feared prosecution, you wouldn’t be able to recruit agents.

Not saying it’s right.
CIA agents are highly trained in the area of defeating lie detectors.
Title: Re: How Dirty Is The CIA???
Post by: Rush on December 06, 2021, 07:04:38 AM
CIA agents are highly trained in the area of defeating lie detectors.

Not when they're first hired.  And not necessarily all of them. The humint maybe but the paper pushers at the office?  Just guessing again...
Title: Re: How Dirty Is The CIA???
Post by: nddons on December 06, 2021, 07:34:56 AM
CIA agents are highly trained in the area of defeating lie detectors.
It’s alleged that Dr. Peter Venkman used to work at the CIA.

https://youtu.be/HW8Ua49dCYk
Title: Re: How Dirty Is The CIA???
Post by: Rush on December 06, 2021, 08:15:07 AM
The stupid thing here is using the office wifi to download porn. In this day and age, there’s no excuse for not knowing your employer has spyware on your machine and knows your every move, and that’s normal companies, much less an organization specializing in spying. When you apply to the CIA they screen you for intelligence, literal intelligence, like they don’t want to hire stupid people. It’s mind boggling these people were doing this, it implies a culture of tolerance and corruption.
Title: Re: How Dirty Is The CIA???
Post by: bflynn on December 06, 2021, 08:24:05 AM
In this day and age, there’s no excuse for not knowing your employer has spyware on your machine and knows your every move, and that’s normal companies, much less an organization specializing in spying.

Yes, especially if your employer is the CIA.

On the original topic, polygraphs are generally not admissible in court, so this isn't legal "evidence".  Even following up based on the polygraph is probably fruit of the poison tree.   I don't know the legal path, but pursuing them related to the polygraph is probably fruitless.
Title: Re: How Dirty Is The CIA???
Post by: Rush on December 06, 2021, 08:48:02 AM
Yes, especially if your employer is the CIA.

On the original topic, polygraphs are generally not admissible in court, so this isn't legal "evidence".  Even following up based on the polygraph is probably fruit of the poison tree.   I don't know the legal path, but pursuing them related to the polygraph is probably fruitless.

Maybe so. They’d have to get evidence through some completely different path. When you go to work for the IC, they want (need) to know absolutely everything about you. Especially anything that could compromise you whether it was a crime you committed or something else you could be blackmailed over. That means they especially need to know your deep dark secrets, and any family skeletons in the closet. So it isn’t surprising they uncovered this stuff. A certain percentage of any workforce will be pedos, statistically, given enough numbers of employees. Private sector employment doesn’t dig that deep so it’s possible every industry has the same share of sickos.

The difference is the CIA found it and didn’t pursue prosecution but then, that’s not its job. It isn’t looking for it to prosecute, but rather to ensure the security of its agents against compromise.
Title: Re: How Dirty Is The CIA???
Post by: bflynn on December 06, 2021, 09:25:35 AM
Read some more - Part of the SF-6 (background investigation) is that you will not be prosecuted for any crimes based on the SF-6 or the polygraph. 

Still not sure of how LEO would get back onto the "white" path after learning about something like this through a tainted path.
Title: Re: How Dirty Is The CIA???
Post by: Rush on December 06, 2021, 09:34:33 AM
Read some more - Part of the SF-6 (background investigation) is that you will not be prosecuted for any crimes based on the SF-6 or the polygraph. 

Still not sure of how LEO would get back onto the "white" path after learning about something like this through a tainted path.

Easy. Just plant evidence to frame them. They do it to innocents all the time. But I guess they sweep it under the rug if it’s one of their own.
Title: Re: How Dirty Is The CIA???
Post by: nddons on December 06, 2021, 09:55:47 AM
Maybe so. They’d have to get evidence through some completely different path. When you go to work for the IC, they want (need) to know absolutely everything about you. Especially anything that could compromise you whether it was a crime you committed or something else you could be blackmailed over. That means they especially need to know your deep dark secrets, and any family skeletons in the closet. So it isn’t surprising they uncovered this stuff. A certain percentage of any workforce will be pedos, statistically, given enough numbers of employees. Private sector employment doesn’t dig that deep so it’s possible every industry has the same share of sickos.

The difference is the CIA found it and didn’t pursue prosecution but then, that’s not its job. It isn’t looking for it to prosecute, but rather to ensure the security of its agents against compromise.
But if an employer knows or suspects that a crime took place, and doesn’t report it to law enforcement, they may be held liable.

Exhibit A:  The Catholic Church
Title: Re: How Dirty Is The CIA???
Post by: Rush on December 06, 2021, 11:09:00 AM
But if an employer knows or suspects that a crime took place, and doesn’t report it to law enforcement, they may be held liable.

Exhibit A:  The Catholic Church

There’s criminal liability and then there’s civil liability. Maybe bflynn’s SF-6 protects against criminal, I’m not sure anything protects against civil.
Title: Re: How Dirty Is The CIA???
Post by: nddons on December 06, 2021, 02:05:25 PM
There’s criminal liability and then there’s civil liability. Maybe bflynn’s SF-6 protects against criminal, I’m not sure anything protects against civil.
I believe there are things called “failure to report” crimes when it comes to such things as crimes against children. I’m not sure how widespread that is.
Title: Re: How Dirty Is The CIA???
Post by: Rush on December 06, 2021, 02:16:41 PM
I believe there are things called “failure to report” crimes when it comes to such things as crimes against children. I’m not sure how widespread that is.

Depends on the state but usually these apply only to certain professions such as counselors, teachers, and clergy. I have no idea whether it applies to employers or government employers, and I would not be surprised if the CIA has some kind of special loophole. I mean these people literally get away with murder.