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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Rush on April 30, 2022, 06:08:43 AM

Title: No free speech in Ukraine
Post by: Rush on April 30, 2022, 06:08:43 AM
The first guy is arrested for apparently doing nothing except stating his opinions on social media.  The next guy, it seems he had actually contacted the enemy and was helping them.  That’s legit, but it says merely posting opinions against the war is enough for a prison sentence.  And Zelensky says he is fighting for freedom?

There should be no censorship of speech anywhere at any time save direct security threats such as posting locations of forces etc.

This doesn’t mean Ukraine are the bad guys.  We unjustly imprisoned innocent Japanese citizens in WW2 just for existing.  Doesn’t mean we were on the wrong side of the war.

But Zelensky doesn’t make me want to support him when he does stuff like this.  However I’m not in his shoes fighting an invader right now so I could be wrong.

Title: Re: No free speech in Ukraine
Post by: Lucifer on April 30, 2022, 06:44:30 AM
This war is majorly fucked up.   And it’s a product of the FJB administration. 

Ukraine is not a democracy as our lunatic liberals will have you believe.  There is so much disinformation from all sides of this mess. 

Yet FJB is willing to pour billions upon billions of our money into this mess while ignoring our problems here. 

Follow. The.  Money. 
Title: Re: No free speech in Ukraine
Post by: Username on April 30, 2022, 07:05:10 AM
This war is majorly fucked up.   And it’s a product of the FJB administration. 

Ukraine is not a democracy as our lunatic liberals will have you believe.  There is so much disinformation from all sides of this mess. 

Yet FJB is willing to pour billions upon billions of our money into this mess while ignoring our problems here. 

Follow. The.  Money.
Don't worry.  Biden's new Ministry of Truth will tell you everything you should know.  Knowing anything else is wrongthink and subject to fines and imprisonment.
Title: Re: No free speech in Ukraine
Post by: Old Crow on April 30, 2022, 07:09:19 AM
Don't worry.  Biden's new Ministry of Truth will tell you everything you should know.  Knowing anything else is wrongthink and subject to fines and imprisonment.
Exactly, Joseph Goebbels reincarnated.
Title: Re: No free speech in Ukraine
Post by: Anthony on April 30, 2022, 07:38:14 AM
Exactly, Joseph Goebbels reincarnated.

I keep saying this but the Fascist Democrats and their controllers have created a new Nazi Germany or Soviet Union without the cattle cars and Gulags......YET.

DHS is their KGB.  FBI is the new STASI.
Title: Re: No free speech in Ukraine
Post by: Number7 on April 30, 2022, 10:26:37 AM
The fbi has become the criminal enterprise they were founded to stop.
Fuck biden and fuck the dhs, fbi and doj.
Title: Re: No free speech in Ukraine
Post by: Anthony on April 30, 2022, 11:24:48 AM
The fbi has become the criminal enterprise they were founded to stop.
Fuck biden and fuck the dhs, fbi and doj.

I'll add EPA, IRS, BATF.......
Title: Re: No free speech in Ukraine
Post by: Lucifer on April 30, 2022, 11:42:20 AM
We have a bloated ineffective federal government.  Our constitution makes no reference to any of them other than the post office.  Fact is most of those agencies are duplicated from the state level.  But voter apathy has let these career politicians massively expand government. 

 A convention of states is desperately needed.  It’s time to push back.
Title: Re: No free speech in Ukraine
Post by: Rush on April 30, 2022, 12:30:15 PM
We have a bloated ineffective federal government.  Our constitution makes no reference to any of them other than the post office.  Fact is most of those agencies are duplicated from the state level.  But voter apathy has let these career politicians massively expand government. 

 A convention of states is desperately needed.  It’s time to push back.

The latest and most egregious is Biden’s ministry of truth.  A direct and illegal attack on the first amendment.
Title: Re: No free speech in Ukraine
Post by: Anthony on April 30, 2022, 01:05:49 PM
We have a bloated ineffective federal government.  Our constitution makes no reference to any of them other than the post office.  Fact is most of those agencies are duplicated from the state level.  But voter apathy has let these career politicians massively expand government. 

 A convention of states is desperately needed.  It’s time to push back.

Totally agree.  However,  many live off the Federal and subsequently,  State Gravy Train so we won't get any push back and the MEDIA will not generate any public outcry for real change.
Title: Re: No free speech in Ukraine
Post by: Anthony on April 30, 2022, 01:06:27 PM
The latest and most egregious is Biden’s ministry of truth.  A direct and illegal attack on the first amendment.

Very telling  isn't it?
Title: Re: No free speech in Ukraine
Post by: Rush on April 30, 2022, 01:38:18 PM
Totally agree.  However,  many live off the Federal and subsequently,  State Gravy Train so we won't get any push back and the MEDIA will not generate any public outcry for real change.

The mainstream media is de facto state run propaganda at this point. Not much different from Russia.  We still have alternative media but it will be attacked by the new “misinformation” agency.  I wonder what they’re going to do about Elon Musk?  The Democrat run government is enraged about him buying Twitter.
Title: Re: No free speech in Ukraine
Post by: Anthony on April 30, 2022, 02:18:07 PM
The mainstream media is de facto state run propaganda at this point. Not much different from Russia.  We still have alternative media but it will be attacked by the new “misinformation” agency.  I wonder what they’re going to do about Elon Musk?  The Democrat run government is enraged about him buying Twitter.

Plus the Left is pushing travel limiting  and expensive EVs and guess who owns the most popular EV car manufacturer?  Heads are exploding.  Lol!
Title: Re: No free speech in Ukraine
Post by: Lucifer on April 30, 2022, 02:22:19 PM
Musk will get the “Trump treatment”.   He will be destroyed in the MSM, look for congressional dims to launch one investigation after another.  Look for the DoJ to go after him.  Look for other agencies to go after him. 

Look for SpaceX to start losing contracts, and their business to be endlessly delayed.   
Title: Re: No free speech in Ukraine
Post by: Rush on April 30, 2022, 02:41:00 PM
Musk will get the “Trump treatment”.   He will be destroyed in the MSM, look for congressional dims to launch one investigation after another.  Look for the DoJ to go after him.  Look for other agencies to go after him. 

Look for SpaceX to start losing contracts, and their business to be endlessly delayed.

Yep, that’s the kind of thing I’m worried about.  He went from being admired for making EVs to all of a sudden he is a far right Nazi because he says he believes in free speech.

Title: Re: No free speech in Ukraine
Post by: Lucifer on April 30, 2022, 02:50:20 PM
Yep, that’s the kind of thing I’m worried about.  He went from being admired for making EVs to all of a sudden he is a far right Nazi because he says he believes in free speech.

 Looking back, Trump was admired by the MSM and even the liberals.  Late night talk shows, daytime shows couldn’t wait to have him as a guest.  News programs would give him time on various topics. 

Liberals would go to him looking for donations.  He was down right popular. 

Then he decided to run for president……..
Title: Re: No free speech in Ukraine
Post by: Rush on April 30, 2022, 06:34:12 PM
Looking back, Trump was admired by the MSM and even the liberals.  Late night talk shows, daytime shows couldn’t wait to have him as a guest.  News programs would give him time on various topics. 

Liberals would go to him looking for donations.  He was down right popular. 

Then he decided to run for president……..

Exactly!