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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: nddons on April 18, 2016, 08:41:17 AM

Title: An Open Letter to Donald Trump
Post by: nddons on April 18, 2016, 08:41:17 AM
A great article about Trump accusing delegates of being "bought":

http://soshable.com/mr-trump-in-accusing-patriotic-delegates-of-being-bought-youve-gone-too-far/

Mr. Trump:

How dare you assign your morale degradation and penchant for buying and selling people to the men and women who are trying to save the nation from the destruction you are attempting to bring on us. Your willingness to “play the system” with bankruptcies and political corruption have hurt so many people throughout your life. Accountability is not your thing, but please refrain from narcissistic projection of your weaknesses onto people who do not deserve it.

Instead of bashing the delegates, you should be applauding their commitment. As a billionaire who was born into a real estate empire, you can never appreciate the effort it takes to save up money in order to pay to go to Cleveland. Many receive limited or no compensation and are willing to make personal sacrifices because the Republic is that important to them.

Instead of accusing them, you should be talking to them, hearing what they want, and telling them what you will do. Not all of them have read your policies on your Twitter feed. In fact, you would do well to learn from many of them who know much more about fixing this country than you do.

Instead of belittling them, you should be heralding their service to this country. Many of them served in the Vietnam War that you were unfit to serve in. Many of them fought in the Middle East wars that you’ve repeatedly bashed. Instead of telling the world how corrupt they are for picking a candidate other than you, show them whatever positive character traits you can muster to convince them that you’re good for America.

Many people can give a speech. Many people can deliver a sales pitch. You are very good at both, but those abilities alone will not be enough to serve this country if you’re elected President. Demonstrate the ability to unify without whining. Prove to us that you’re capable of being a statesman, not just a salesman.

It’s important for you to understand something about the Republican party. There is corruption. There are those who say one thing to get elected only to fail to fulfill their promises. That fact has made a majority in the party upset. You are taking advantage of this need for us to fight against the Establishment, but by going after the grassroots rather than attacking the root of the problem, you are actually helping the Establishment. Instead of attacking delegates, you should be attacking Mitch McConnell, one of the Establishment types that you have helped to keep in power. You should be helping Senators Lee and Sessions (who endorsed you) pass legislation and move up in party leadership.

Chances are slim that you will read this and they’re even slimmer that you would learn anything from it, but if there is one takeaway that you must understand, it’s this: The President of the United States is a servant. We’ve seen Presidents falling away from the understanding that the President makes decisions on our behalf, but to do so properly you must be willing to humble yourself to the role of one who serves us. We do not serve you.

I will fight your nomination until the choice is finalized. Your antics have demonstrated a complete lack of the moral character and leadership that I feel the office requires. Regardless of the outcome of the nomination process and the election, it is my sincere hope that you will not use the goodwill you’ve accumulated with your supporters to further damage the Republican party and the United States of America. You have a responsibility to the nation that enabled your rise to prominence. Do not disregard that responsibility by acting as you have for your entire public life as a man who is most interested in gaining favor and approval from others.

Respectfully,

JD Rucker

Title: Re: An Open Letter to Donald Trump
Post by: Lucifer on April 18, 2016, 08:43:29 AM
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  Your antics have demonstrated a complete lack of the moral character and leadership that I feel the office requires.

Oddly enough that sentence applies to Mr. Cruz as well.
Title: Re: An Open Letter to Donald Trump
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 18, 2016, 09:01:46 AM
Oddly enough that sentence applies to Mr. Cruz as well.

Dang, that Mr Cruz must be the devil himself...... um, wait.....

Title: Re: An Open Letter to Donald Trump
Post by: nddons on April 18, 2016, 09:05:33 AM
Oddly enough that sentence applies to Mr. Cruz as well.
Right.

Pathetic that THAT is your response to the article. As childish as your candidate.
Title: Re: An Open Letter to Donald Trump
Post by: JeffDG on April 18, 2016, 09:09:22 AM
Right.

Pathetic that THAT is your response to the article. As childish as your candidate.
And that's saying something.
Title: Re: An Open Letter to Donald Trump
Post by: Lucifer on April 18, 2016, 09:23:14 AM
Right.

Pathetic that THAT is your response to the article. As childish as your candidate.

 Why the writer of that letter airs his concerns towards one candidate he fails to acknowledge just how flawed the candidate he supports is.  Trying to paint Cruz as a messiah is a bit disingenuous, but so is Cruz.

 
Title: Re: An Open Letter to Donald Trump
Post by: JeffDG on April 18, 2016, 09:24:28 AM
Why the writer of that letter airs his concerns towards one candidate he fails to acknowledge just how flawed the candidate he supports is.  Trying to paint Cruz as a messiah is a bit disingenuous, but so is Cruz.
Nicely done.  Criticize someone for doing exactly what you did in your critique.  Self-awareness failure of nearly Trump levels.
Title: Re: An Open Letter to Donald Trump
Post by: Number7 on April 18, 2016, 09:27:27 AM
Oddly enough that sentence applies to Mr. Cruz as well.

When all the opposition has left is to turn back every rightful criticism on the opponent, you know they've already lost. projection is the last weapon of a loser and the first of any coward, but used constantly by those with nothing much to back up their agenda.
Title: Re: An Open Letter to Donald Trump
Post by: Lucifer on April 18, 2016, 09:41:12 AM
When all the opposition has left is to turn back every rightful criticism on the opponent, you know they've already lost. projection is the last weapon of a loser and the first of any coward, but used constantly by those with nothing much to back up their agenda.

Interesting.

 


I could care less about the criticism of Trump mainly due to the sources, it's politics.  But when you watch those criticizing absolutely deny that their chosen guy has no flaws and painting him as something he is not, then anyone has the right to call bullshit.

Is it no wonder George W. Bush, when asked about his former employee Ted Cruz said "I just don't like that guy".   A fairly astounding remark by a former President who rarely, if ever, says anything negative about other politicians.

 Maybe GWB was a loser in your book as well?
Title: Re: An Open Letter to Donald Trump
Post by: JeffDG on April 18, 2016, 09:46:06 AM
Interesting.
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But when you watch those criticizing absolutely deny that their chosen guy has no flaws and painting him as something he is not, then anyone has the right to call bullshit.
Coming from the guy who can find no fault whatsoever with the man-child?
Title: Re: An Open Letter to Donald Trump
Post by: nddons on April 18, 2016, 09:47:47 AM
Interesting.

 


I could care less about the criticism of Trump mainly due to the sources, it's politics.  But when you watch those criticizing absolutely deny that their chosen guy has no flaws and painting him as something he is not, then anyone has the right to call bullshit.

Is it no wonder George W. Bush, when asked about his former employee Ted Cruz said "I just don't like that guy".   A fairly astounding remark by a former President who rarely, if ever, says anything negative about other politicians.

 Maybe GWB was a loser in your book as well?
Another intellectually dishonest debate strategy is to reach to the extremes to support your point.

A perfect candidate has never existed, and doesn't exist in this race. Yet you cling to some belief that the imperfections of Cruz demonstrate hypocrisy on my part.  That's an argument for losers, not winners.
Title: Re: An Open Letter to Donald Trump
Post by: JeffDG on April 18, 2016, 09:49:12 AM
Another intellectually dishonest debate strategy
If Trumpkins didn't have intellectual dishonest debate strategies, they'd have no strategies at all.
Title: Re: An Open Letter to Donald Trump
Post by: Lucifer on April 18, 2016, 09:51:22 AM
Another intellectually dishonest debate strategy is to reach to the extremes to support your point.

A perfect candidate has never existed, and doesn't exist in this race. Yet you cling to some belief that the imperfections of Cruz demonstrate hypocrisy on my part.  That's an argument for losers, not winners.

 You are the one clinging to and trying to paint your guy Cruz as some sort of perfect conservative messiah and that you and the other Republican purist are the only ones that see his greatness and the unwashed masses are simply wrong for not falling in line.

 As far as your hypocrisy?  Yes, it's constantly evident.
Title: Re: An Open Letter to Donald Trump
Post by: JeffDG on April 18, 2016, 09:58:33 AM
You are the one clinging to and trying to paint your guy Cruz as some sort of perfect conservative messiah and that you and the other Republican purist are the only ones that see his greatness and the unwashed masses are simply wrong for not falling in line.

 As far as your hypocrisy? Yes, it's constantly evident.
Yep, in every post you make your glaring hypocrisy is more and more evident.
Title: Re: An Open Letter to Donald Trump
Post by: nddons on April 18, 2016, 11:44:36 AM
You are the one clinging to and trying to paint your guy Cruz as some sort of perfect conservative messiah and that you and the other Republican purist are the only ones that see his greatness and the unwashed masses are simply wrong for not falling in line.

 As far as your hypocrisy?  Yes, it's constantly evident.
Prove it, smart ass. Or shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: An Open Letter to Donald Trump
Post by: Lucifer on April 18, 2016, 11:58:32 AM
Prove it, smart ass. Or shut the fuck up.

So when you're back up in a corner slander and profanity is your only recourse?

Nice.

Again, thanks for proving my point.
Title: Re: An Open Letter to Donald Trump
Post by: nddons on April 18, 2016, 12:24:45 PM
So when you're back up in a corner slander and profanity is your only recourse?

Nice.

Again, thanks for proving my point.
Just like your hero Trump. Throw every possible accusation and indication up against the wall, and see what sticks. All in the name of being a whiny "winner." 

I see you had no proof of your accusations. Typical.

And here I thought that someone with your screen name wouldn't be such a delicate snowflake when it came to profanity.
Title: Re: An Open Letter to Donald Trump
Post by: Lucifer on April 18, 2016, 12:38:30 PM
Just like your hero Trump. Throw every possible accusation and indication up against the wall, and see what sticks. All in the name of being a whiny "winner." 

I see you had no proof of your accusations. Typical.

And here I thought that someone with your screen name wouldn't be such a delicate snowflake when it came to profanity.

Wow, the anger when you are backed in a corner.  Amazing, but not really surprising. 
Title: Re: An Open Letter to Donald Trump
Post by: JeffDG on April 18, 2016, 12:40:45 PM
Hey, should we start a pool to determine when Lucifer will add some actual content?
Title: Re: An Open Letter to Donald Trump
Post by: nddons on April 18, 2016, 02:43:04 PM
Hey, should we start a pool to determine when Lucifer will add some actual content?
The apple doesn't fall far from the Trump tree. I'm not holding my breath.
Title: Re: An Open Letter to Donald Trump
Post by: Lucifer on April 18, 2016, 02:57:54 PM
The apple doesn't fall far from the Trump tree. I'm not holding my breath.

Ah c'mon Stan, is that the best you can do?   Really?

LOL!  ;D
Title: Re: An Open Letter to Donald Trump
Post by: Anthony on April 19, 2016, 05:59:16 PM
Again.  I will vote for the Republican nominee.  I'd prefer Cruz, but if it is Trump, he'd still be better than Hillary, Sanders, Biden, or Warren. 
Title: Re: An Open Letter to Donald Trump
Post by: Mase on April 19, 2016, 07:26:12 PM
Again.  I will vote for the Republican nominee.  I'd prefer Cruz, but if it is Trump, he'd still be better than Hillary, Sanders, Biden, or Warren.

If Trump wins the nomination, it will be VERY interesting to see how he campaigns against the Hildebeast.   I am sure he will not hold back, in the way McCain and Romney held back against Obama.   Of course, Cruz would probably tear her to shreds in any debate, as well.

We do live in interesting times.