PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: President in Exile YOLT on March 06, 2016, 06:22:07 PM
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/scientists-attempt-clone-ice-age-7497693
(http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article7497661.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/PAY-E3WP3G.jpg)
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Makes you wonder if scientists every actually read or watch any science fiction - between these guys and that moron who kept steeling the Google Terminator's box and kicking the Google Terminator dog, yeah - I got a bad feeling about this.
'Gimp
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What are they trying to prove by doing this?
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Seems pretty cool.
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Makes you wonder if scientists every actually read or watch any science fiction - between these guys and that moron who kept steeling the Google Terminator's box and kicking the Google Terminator dog, yeah - I got a bad feeling about this.
'Gimp
Robots don't get mad. They get even.
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What are they trying to prove by doing this?
That it can be done. That long extinct species can be brought back to life if we want. Yes, Jurassic Park is possible.
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That it can be done. That long extinct species can be brought back to life if we want. Yes, Jurassic Park is possible.
But but but.....don't they remember how that ended?
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When our future robot overlords are exterminating the last vestiges of human kind, we will be able to look back and blame hockey stick guy.
http://bgr.com/2016/02/24/google-boston-dynamics-atlas-robot-video/
And this guy who kept kicking the robot dog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8YjvHYbZ9w
'Gimp
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But but but.....don't they remember how that ended?
Jurassic Park was a private enterprise, and that's why it failed. What they really needed was involvement by FedGov, because there's nothing the government can't do. ;)
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Jurassic Park was a private enterprise, and that's why it failed. What they really needed was involvement by FedGov, because there's nothing the government can't do. ;)
I guess not. They got us to the Moon and created the most awesome weapon the world has ever known. ;)
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They got us to the Moon...
...or so they keep telling us! :o
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I guess not. They got us to the Moon and created the most awesome weapon the world has ever known. ;)
Way to ruin a joke, killjoy. :P
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Way cool if it works, which is improbable to say the least. in order to clone a mammal you need an intact cell nucleus with a viable diploid genome. Such things are rarely found in fossils or frozen remains. Having DNA is a long long way from possessing an intact nucleus. And even with a limitless supply of intact cell cloning mammals is difficult and viable clones rare. I bet this guy is involved, though.
http://stemcellbioethics.wikischolars.columbia.edu/The+Cloning+Scandal+of+Hwang+Woo-Suk (http://stemcellbioethics.wikischolars.columbia.edu/The+Cloning+Scandal+of+Hwang+Woo-Suk)
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Way cool if it works, which is improbable to say the least.
Yeah, but long ago I quit thinking that anything was truly impossible. We just haven't found a way to do it yet.
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Yeah, but long ago I quit thinking that anything was truly impossible. We just haven't found a way to do it yet.
While true, I suspect that the day we can "clone" a sabertooth tiger or holly mammal we'll be able to "clone" dinosaurs, or anything else we care to. I do not worry about these things running amok, they went extinct for a reason.
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Yeah, but long ago I quit thinking that anything was truly impossible. We just haven't found a way to do it yet.
When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.
Clarke's first law
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If they are successful, I wonder how long the animal would survive and would it suffer. The world it is coming into is very different than the one it left. Different atmosphere, different temperature, different barometric pressure and most important, different bacteria and viruses. The animals in this article aren't all that old in relative terms, so they may be OK, but I wonder about the viability of Dinosaurs with today's conditions.
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Like I said, they went extinct for a reason.
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Like I said, they went extinct for a reason.
Is that something also blamed on Man?
;-)
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Some people have said so for the North American gigantic animals, but I doubt it quite a bit. I suspect strongly that it was due to climate change.
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Some people have said so for the North American gigantic animals, but I doubt it quite a bit. I suspect strongly that it was due to climate change.
So there was climate change before man?
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So there was climate change before man?
I've only seen shows on TV, so am no expert. The analysis they described was a comet that blew up and rained debris in North America. They cited some evidence that said comet crash has occurred. Of course, a good-sized comet could dig up lots of dust and debris and cause climate change, which is what is thought to have happened. Certainly enough to do in local megafauna.
I've seen analyses blame early humans for their demise, which I just don't buy. More highly developed Africans were never able to do in their local megafauna, it took us to do that. I can't believe primitive humans armed with little more than bows and arrows could hunt things like mammoths and saber tooth tigers to extinction. Ain't buyin' it.
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Like I said, they went extinct for a reason.
Yeah. An asteroid hit the earth.
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So there was climate change before man?
Not possible... Who would we tax, and how would we "spread the wealth around" if that proved to be true.
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Yeah. An asteroid hit the earth.
Yes, but in the resulting speciation such forms never reoccurred. My guess is they didn't because conditions no longer favored their survival. Moreover, the asteroid theory can not possibly be the whole story. Chelonians, crocodilians, mammals and birds all survived the impact and its aftermath. Moreover, all the dinosauric aquatic megafauna also perished, agains being survived by body fishes, sharks, and all kinds of other sea creatures. I suspect the truth is somewhat more complex.