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Title: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Lucifer on February 01, 2019, 03:10:23 PM
Oh wait!  He's a democrat, so nothing to see here............

https://pilotonline.com/news/government/politics/virginia/article_67fdd682-2662-11e9-a7d1-c7ed70e09b50.html

(https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/pilotonline.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/3/24/324a60d0-2664-11e9-ba18-7bcd59a514fe/5c54b387083d4.image.jpg?crop=1077%2C697%2C88%2C917&resize=750%2C485&order=crop%2Cresize)
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Anthony on February 01, 2019, 03:29:16 PM
Mammy!

No double standard here.  No hypocrisy from the Left, huh?  The "Little Rascals" would be illegal today, especially Buckwheat. 
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Lucifer on February 01, 2019, 03:56:33 PM
Mammy!

No double standard here.  No hypocrisy from the Left, huh?  The "Little Rascals" would be illegal today, especially Buckwheat.

 If this was Gov______________*(R)  the media would be going apeshit, and the dims would be DEMANDING his resignation immediately!

(*insert any republican governor name)
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Lucifer on February 01, 2019, 04:30:07 PM
Everything is OK now, he says he's "deeply sorry".

So let's go back to digging up dirt on republicans and accosting kids wearing red hats.

https://www.wsls.com/news/virginia/gov-northams-medical-school-yearbook-page-features-men-in-blackface-kkk-robe
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Lucifer on February 01, 2019, 05:48:56 PM
And now, this:

(https://thelibertydaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Ralph-Northam-Coonman-819x1024.jpeg)

"Coonman"??   Seriously?

Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on February 01, 2019, 06:03:01 PM
It gets a little old saying “Just think if that were a Republican” all the time. But yes.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/02/breaking-northam-heading-south.php

That tweet from Kamala Harris is a hoot, if it weren’t so maddening how the left won’t let racism die.

Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on February 01, 2019, 06:18:50 PM
Whoa. K. Harris says Northam should step down.

https://mobile.twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1091495852865134592
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Lucifer on February 01, 2019, 06:22:14 PM

LOL!!!

(https://i1.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2019/02/Screen-Shot-2019-02-01-at-3.36.15-PM.png?resize=580%2C307&ssl=1)
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Number7 on February 01, 2019, 07:16:13 PM
So... the bitch Kamala thinks tha the Governor of Virginia should step down so that the ENTIRE state can heal???

Does the entire state have the flu?

What utter liberal bullshit.
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: bflynn on February 01, 2019, 08:29:29 PM
Yes, the media would be going more crazy, but there are calls for him to retire.

I don't personally get too worked up over things that happened decades ago.  The culture has changed a lot since and judging actions from long ago against a different standard just isn't valid.
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: LevelWing on February 02, 2019, 01:05:35 AM
Whoa. K. Harris says Northam should step down.

https://mobile.twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1091495852865134592
Good for her. I'm glad to see a Democrat, a prominent one at that, saying this. I'm sure she's looking for some sort of moral high ground since she's running for president, but asking him to step down is asking him to step down.
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Anthony on February 02, 2019, 04:23:00 AM
Good for her. I'm glad to see a Democrat, a prominent one at that, saying this. I'm sure she's looking for some sort of moral high ground since she's running for president, but asking him to step down is asking him to step down.

Absolutely.  I think she is the ONLY Democrat saying that.  However, look for her position to "evolve". 
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Little Joe on February 02, 2019, 05:02:29 AM
Is CNN even called a "News" outlet any more?

https://www.newsweek.com/twitter-scorns-cnn-false-republican-label-virginia-gov-ralph-northam-1315621
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: bflynn on February 02, 2019, 05:54:05 AM
His political career is getting a post birth abortion.

I suspect that his abortion comments prompted someone to look a little deeper.
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Little Joe on February 02, 2019, 06:13:49 AM
Absolutely.  I think she is the ONLY Democrat saying that.  However, look for her position to "evolve".
She probably saw that CNN called him a Republican, and believed it.  How else could you logically explain her call for him to resign.
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Anthony on February 02, 2019, 06:28:59 AM
She probably saw that CNN called him a Republican, and believed it.  How else could you logically explain her call for him to resign.

Possibly.  CNN is the Pravda of the U.S.
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on February 02, 2019, 06:55:44 AM
Isn't there whiff of Kavanaugh in this?

Plus, to me, Harris’s tweet asking him to step down seems like a tired, overplayed whine designed to make us all think racism is everywhere.

Move on with the racism crap!
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 02, 2019, 07:16:29 AM
Just curious, do we believe people can't or don't change over time?
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Rush on February 02, 2019, 07:34:44 AM
Just curious, do we believe people can't or don't change over time?

People can change over time but only if they were predestined to do so in the first place so they actually don't change because they had the potential in them all along.
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Lucifer on February 02, 2019, 07:54:30 AM
The progressive playbook is to dig into an opponent's past for any dirt they can find, then, with the help of their MSM, go apocalyptic with demands of resignation and withdrawal.   

 When they can't find dirt, the next move is to manufacture the dirt, then, once again with the MSM help, go for blood.

 And when it happens to one of their own,  especially when the evidence is true, the real fun begins to watch how the MSM soft pedals the news and the progressives try to tell us "no big deal, he's changed" or some bullshit along those lines.

 The female Barrack will of course use this to promote herself as will several other progressives (sacrifices must be made for the good of the party ya know).

 Bottom line:  Everybody has done some stupid crap in their youth, it's just part of growing up.   The progressives start this crap and have used it effectively, never thinking it could happen to them.   What's that saying about glass houses?

 Northam's political career is now toast.  Go back and watch what he did to Gillespie during the race for Governor.  He ran ads and constantly (projection) commented about how racist Gillespie was supposedly. 

 This will be interesting to watch over the next few days.
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Rush on February 02, 2019, 08:11:06 AM
The progressive playbook is to dig into an opponent's past for any dirt they can find, then, with the help of their MSM, go apocalyptic with demands of resignation and withdrawal.   

 When they can't find dirt, the next move is to manufacture the dirt, then, once again with the MSM help, go for blood.

 And when it happens to one of their own,  especially when the evidence is true, the real fun begins to watch how the MSM soft pedals the news and the progressives try to tell us "no big deal, he's changed" or some bullshit along those lines.

 The female Barrack will of course use this to promote herself as will several other progressives (sacrifices must be made for the good of the party ya know).

 Bottom line:  Everybody has done some stupid crap in their youth, it's just part of growing up.   The progressives start this crap and have used it effectively, never thinking it could happen to them.   What's that saying about glass houses?

 Northam's political career is now toast.  Go back and watch what he did to Gillespie during the race for Governor.  He ran ads and constantly (projection) commented about how racist Gillespie was supposedly. 

 This will be interesting to watch over the next few days.

You're absolutely right. The Dems and the media have totally corrupted the process. They don't play fair with elections anymore with their targeted ruination of any viable opposition. We might as well stop pretending we are a representative republic and trying to elect our leaders. Soon this country will be single party and voting will be merely a formality, choosing between communists.
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: LevelWing on February 02, 2019, 09:33:12 AM
So... the bitch Kamala thinks tha the Governor of Virginia should step down so that the ENTIRE state can heal???

Does the entire state have the flu?

What utter liberal bullshit.
It's never good enough for you. You took issue with something that isn't even the point of her tweet (which was calling for the resignation of the governor).
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Anthony on February 02, 2019, 09:35:51 AM
It's never good enough for you. You took issue with something that isn't even the point of her tweet (which was calling for the resignation of the governor).

I think the point is that Kamala Harris ASSUMES that everyone is outraged over this crap from the distant past.  Many, if not most people don't give a flying f*ck yet the Media wants you to think everyone is offended, and outraged. 

Oh, sorry for the caps.  :)
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: LevelWing on February 02, 2019, 09:35:54 AM
Just curious, do we believe people can't or don't change over time?
I think people can and do change over time. I also think that when Democrats come out and take issue with Justice Kavanaugh because of unfounded allegations from 35 years ago, and point to his yearbook, that it's fair and proper to point out the same when it comes to them. Double standards are not acceptable. There should be one standard that we hold everyone to.
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Lucifer on February 02, 2019, 10:07:47 AM
I think people can and do change over time. I also think that when Democrats come out and take issue with Justice Kavanaugh because of unfounded allegations from 35 years ago, and point to his yearbook, that it's fair and proper to point out the same when it comes to them. Double standards are not acceptable. There should be one standard that we hold everyone to.

You forgot to add “except for Judge Roy Moore”.   ::)
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Number7 on February 02, 2019, 12:33:37 PM
It's never good enough for you. You took issue with something that isn't even the point of her tweet (which was calling for the resignation of the governor).

Feeling triggered are you?
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Little Joe on February 02, 2019, 01:20:18 PM
People can change over time but only if they were predestined to do so in the first place so they actually don't change because they had the potential in them all along.
I believe this.  I for one am not the same person I was a a young man.  At least, not outwardly.  When I was young, I fell in with a bad crowd, and like a weakling, I followed the crowd and did things I am not proud of.  Fortunately, I survived without major damage to my health or reputation.  Over time, I "grew up" and am embarrassed at some of those things. 

Did I change?  Yes.  Very much so.  But honestly, I am now my own person whereas before, I belonged to the crowd and the temptations.  But I suspect it is a good thing I never ran for high office.

Oh, I was also a screaming liberal back then, which I attribute purely to ignorance.
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: nddons on February 02, 2019, 01:33:55 PM
I find it sad and pathetic that the push for this guy’s resignation is coming from a decades old yearbook picture, and not of his endorsement of a law permitting infanticide. 

This is what my country has become.
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Anthony on February 02, 2019, 01:37:07 PM
I find it sad and pathetic that the push for this guy’s resignation is coming from a decades old yearbook picture, and not of his endorsement of a law permitting infanticide. 

This is what my country has become.

It is because the LEFT controls the narrative, the Media, and Education, and has at least since the 1970's for the most part.  We are being conditioned to all these PC idiosyncricies where statues over 100 years old can come to life and harm us, and harmless pranks, or costumes can control us. 
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 02, 2019, 03:23:47 PM
 Now he claims he is not in that picture. That must mean the other person and whoever took the picture are dead and thus can not verify he was in the picture.
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Number7 on February 02, 2019, 05:35:42 PM
Now he claims he is not in that picture. That must mean the other person and whoever took the picture are dead and this can not verify he was in the picture.


Hmmmm..... Yesterday he was very sorry. Today it wasn't even him. By tomorrow we will be told it was all Donald Trump's fault.
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on February 02, 2019, 07:00:11 PM
The Black vote is essential for Dems to win. Therefore everything must be about racism. Racism front and center, 24/7. Preferably by Republicans, even if you have to make up a hoax.

I thought the person who posted earlier that CNN showed Northam as being a Republican was joking. But they really did. And ABC did, too.

Northam’s press conference is painful to watch.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/02/northam-the-video.php
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: LevelWing on February 03, 2019, 01:33:45 AM
You forgot to add “except for Judge Roy Moore”.   ::)
I'm not sure what you mean by this. Roy Moore was credibly accused of sexual misconduct and he was unfit to hold office. I know you disagree with that, though, and that's fine. I don't think that renders what I said irrelevant or untrue.
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: LevelWing on February 03, 2019, 01:35:09 AM
I find it sad and pathetic that the push for this guy’s resignation is coming from a decades old yearbook picture, and not of his endorsement of a law permitting infanticide. 

This is what my country has become.
This is a great point and absolutely true. The debate around Northam should be about this ridiculous law Virginia wants to pass. That has fallen to the back burner as the controversy around Northam picks up.

Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Lucifer on February 03, 2019, 08:00:46 AM
I'm not sure what you mean by this. Roy Moore was credibly accused of sexual misconduct and he was unfit to hold office. I know you disagree with that, though, and that's fine. I don't think that renders what I said irrelevant or untrue.

 What you said was:

I think people can and do change over time.

 So let's take Judge Moore.  You said he was "credibly accused", which on it's face is laughable since all of the accusations were without evidence and from years ago.  The only evidence produced was later found to have been altered, and not credible.   And once he lost the election, the accusers folded up shop and left town.   

 And Judge Moore had no accusations in his legal career and while he held elected office.  None.

 So, let's take your point here.  You just stated  "I think people can and do change over time". If Judge Moore had dated younger women in his youth, then married, had an admirable private life and a elected service free from such accusations, would he not fit your category?  Or is it simply you disagree with him politically, so this one can be tossed to the dogs?

I also think that when Democrats come out and take issue with Justice Kavanaugh because of unfounded allegations from 35 years ago, and point to his yearbook, that it's fair and proper to point out the same when it comes to them. Double standards are not acceptable. There should be one standard that we hold everyone to.

 Agreed!

 Kavanaugh was falsely accused of some very vile stuff from earlier in his life using unverifiable accusers.  So was Judge Moore.  Kavanaugh had his yearbook dug up as "evidence", flimsy at best and taken out of context.  Judge Moore had a yearbook used against him, again, flimsy allegation that was doctored by the submitter.

 Kavanaugh's accusers never uttered a word until he was chosen to the SC.  Moore's accusers never uttered a word until he was running for the Senate.

 Kavanaugh's accusers packed up and went away once he was confirmed (and some are facing perjury charges).  Moore's accusers packed up and left once he was defeated in his senate run.

Double standards are not acceptable. There should be one standard that we hold everyone to.

 It's shear hypocrisy to make that statement, then look the other way when someone you disagree with is having it done to them, and it's blatant what's taking place.

 
 
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on February 03, 2019, 08:19:48 AM
Two of Kavanaugh’s accusers admitted to making up their stories.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-03/kavanaugh-rape-accuser-admits-she-lied-referred-criminal-prosecution-kamalas-office
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Lucifer on February 03, 2019, 08:25:48 AM
Two of Kavanaugh’s accusers admitted to making up their stories.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-03/kavanaugh-rape-accuser-admits-she-lied-referred-criminal-prosecution-kamalas-office

 And that is truly a crime, and they should face the law and the consequences.

 This nasty chapter of the democrat playbook needs to go away as it will only get worse. We can only begin to imagine what the next SC nomination is going to look like, and what the nominee will be subjected to. 
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: bflynn on February 03, 2019, 08:51:55 AM
And that is truly a crime, and they should face the law and the consequences.

Legitimate question - crime of what?  Crime of lying to the press?  Crime of triggering a police investigation that you didn't want to press charges on? 

What's the crime that says it's illegal to lie to the public?  They didn't go to court.  They didn't testify to Congress.  Libel is a civil matter, not criminal...so what is the crime?

Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Lucifer on February 03, 2019, 09:06:46 AM
Legitimate question - crime of what?  Crime of lying to the press?  Crime of triggering a police investigation that you didn't want to press charges on? 

What's the crime that says it's illegal to lie to the public?  They didn't go to court.  They didn't testify to Congress.  Libel is a civil matter, not criminal...so what is the crime?

 They lied to a senate committee.  Chuck Grassely referred those to the DOJ for prosecution. 
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: nddons on February 03, 2019, 09:37:31 AM
Now he claims he is not in that picture. That must mean the other person and whoever took the picture are dead and thus can not verify he was in the picture.
So the photographer knew Hillary Clinton?  ;)
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 03, 2019, 09:44:49 AM
So the photographer knew Hillary Clinton?  ;)
Might have. Has anyone else seen the picture that is supposed to be Hillary (in black face) and Bill on bib overalls with the straw hit?  Is that a real pic or someone that looks a lot like Bill?
Not them from what I can tell.
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: bflynn on February 03, 2019, 11:53:39 AM
They lied to a senate committee.  Chuck Grassely referred those to the DOJ for prosecution.

I believe they were referred for investigation.  Single word change, big difference. 

Example - Munro-Leighton allegedly sent a letter, then allegedly sent an email which claimed sending the letter.  But when later interviewed by investigators she said didn't write the letter.  The part that is factually known is that she told investigators that it wasn't her.  It is unknown whether someone else sent the initial letter or forged an email.

That same story repeats for everyone else except Dr Ford.  I'm aware of of a lot of lies told in public, but nobody except Ford ever testified to the Senate.  I'm inclined to believe that something happened, probably viewed differently by each side.  Everyone else denied the stories to official investigators. 
Title: Re: Ralph Northam yearbook page shows men in blackface and KKK robe
Post by: Anthony on February 04, 2019, 08:23:14 AM
I believe they were referred for investigation.  Single word change, big difference. 

Example - Munro-Leighton allegedly sent a letter, then allegedly sent an email which claimed sending the letter.  But when later interviewed by investigators she said didn't write the letter.  The part that is factually known is that she told investigators that it wasn't her.  It is unknown whether someone else sent the initial letter or forged an email.

That same story repeats for everyone else except Dr Ford.  I'm aware of of a lot of lies told in public, but nobody except Ford ever testified to the Senate.  I'm inclined to believe that something happened, probably viewed differently by each side.  Everyone else denied the stories to official investigators.

Dr. Ford?  Please.  The fact that you show her that much respect speaks volumes.  She was a PAID pawn of the Democrats, supported by the anti Male Media.  Paid to derail a legitimate Supreme Court appointment.  Just like Russia, Russia, Russia, more lies only to derail Trump.