PILOT SPIN

Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Old Crow on January 17, 2023, 01:35:53 PM

Title: Wonder if there is any truth to this
Post by: Old Crow on January 17, 2023, 01:35:53 PM
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/the-faa-has-very-quietly-tacitly?publication_id=548354&post_id=97001835&triggerShare=true&isFreemail=true
Title: Re: Wonder if there is any truth to this
Post by: Username on January 17, 2023, 02:11:33 PM
Hm... Are EKGs required for a Class I medical?  The employer may require it but I think it's not the regular part of the Class I.  At any rate, is there any other set of people that regularly get EKGs?  It would be great to follow a set of subjects for years before and after the COVID vaccine and see if there is suddenly a change in the heart.  Of course something like that would never get published.
Title: Re: Wonder if there is any truth to this
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on January 17, 2023, 03:04:47 PM
https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-14/chapter-I/subchapter-D/part-67/subpart-B

(b) A person applying for first-class medical certification must demonstrate an absence of myocardial infarction and other clinically significant abnormality on electrocardiographic examination:

(1) At the first application after reaching the 35th birthday; and

(2) On an annual basis after reaching the 40th birthday.

(c) An electrocardiogram will satisfy a requirement of paragraph (b) of this section if it is dated no earlier than 60 days before the date of the application it is to accompany and was performed and transmitted according to acceptable standards and techniques.
Title: Re: Wonder if there is any truth to this
Post by: Lucifer on January 17, 2023, 05:12:03 PM
Hm... Are EKGs required for a Class I medical? 

Yes.
Title: Re: Wonder if there is any truth to this
Post by: Username on January 18, 2023, 05:45:25 AM
Yes.
Excellent!  Now we have a population of otherwise healthy individuals who have yearly medical examinations and EKGs.  That looks like the perfect set up for a great before / after study of the effect of the COVID shot on the heart.  (Thanks for finding the reference.)
Title: Re: Wonder if there is any truth to this
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 18, 2023, 08:13:55 AM
Excellent!  Now we have a population of otherwise healthy individuals who have yearly medical examinations and EKGs.  That looks like the perfect set up for a great before / after study of the effect of the COVID shot on the heart.  (Thanks for finding the reference.)

True! And I believe ATP pilots are checked every six months. I look forward to the study you propose that we all know is forthcoming within the next 75 years.
Title: Re: Wonder if there is any truth to this
Post by: Rush on January 18, 2023, 09:40:44 AM
Excellent!  Now we have a population of otherwise healthy individuals who have yearly medical examinations and EKGs.  That looks like the perfect set up for a great before / after study of the effect of the COVID shot on the heart.  (Thanks for finding the reference.)

Good.  We need somebody to collect that data and analyze it. Unfortunately that would be very difficult. The EKG results aren’t sent to the FAA unless it’s deferred, and there are logistical and privacy challenges trying to get the data out of myriad practitioners or patients records.  It’ll never happen.

I have many problems with the article that I don’t have time to get into, but I don’t think we can jump to the conclusion that the FAA made this change because it thinks the vaccine has caused an increase in heart damage.  It is very possible that the rate of applicants with the PR interval between 200 and 300 ms has always been the same, but there are fewer applicants!  So the FAA is loosening the requirement to fill the pilot shortage.

Ironically the FAA itself helped create this shortage with their onerous requirements in other areas. If you took ADHD meds for 5 minutes as a kid you now need to spend $10 AUs in psychological testing. 
Title: Re: Wonder if there is any truth to this
Post by: Lucifer on January 18, 2023, 01:17:25 PM
ATP pilots holding a first class medical over 40 have an EKG once a year