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Spin Zone / Re: Why I’m not getting the vaccine
« on: September 09, 2021, 02:41:08 PM »
How many were tested in Phase 3 trials? Would you have said that was too few?
43,000 were in the test.  YES that was too few.  If there were nearly 600,000 adverse reactions and 13,000 hospitalizations due to the COVID vaccine compared to 800,000 adverse reactions and 13,000 hospitalizations for ALL vaccines since 1990, YES there are too many adverse reactions and hospitalizations.  All for something that gives 95% protection to something that has a 5% chance of making you sick.  YES there should have been more testing to develop something safer.

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Spin Zone / Re: Afghanistan defeat
« on: September 09, 2021, 09:58:37 AM »
My in-laws thing Biden is doing a wonderful job.

They think banning the pipeline in the US will help stop global warming.
They are glad he is restricting oil and gas exploration on Federal land
They think we should be helping the poor and taxing the rich.
They think we should be out of Afghanistan.

But they don't care about Biden pushing other countries to pump more oil or subsidizing pipelines in other countries that benefit our enemies.
They don't believe that it is the middle class, and their kids and grand kids that are going to be taxed the hardest.
They are convinced that the fucked up Afgthanistan withdrawal was inevitable and Trumps fault. (They actually think both those things are true.

I"m with you guys on almost everything, but I disagree with you all on the Covid vaccine, so you can all go ahead and keep on being pissed at me.

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Spin Zone / Re: New Covid Surge
« on: September 09, 2021, 07:25:49 AM »
Spinning.    Also, now the CDC doesn't consider anyone as "vaccinated" within the first 14 days of getting the shot.

 The goalpost is in constant motion.

Well I would intuitively expect that it takes time for the antibodies (or in this case, gene therapy, to build up to a useful point.

The goalpost has been on wheels since Day One.

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Spin Zone / Re: New Covid Surge
« on: September 08, 2021, 07:22:24 AM »
Many of the studies showing their efficacy aren’t even on people diagnosed with covid. In other words, it works as a preventative. If you have a large population, half gets ivermectin for parasites and the other half doesn’t, control for exposure opportunity, and the group being treated ends up getting covid significantly less than the untreated group, then that is evidence ivermectin can prevent getting it in the first place. This is EXACTLY what they are finding in third world countries with a lot of parasites being treated.

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Spin Zone / Re: New Covid Surge
« on: September 07, 2021, 06:49:47 AM »
But Pfizer is developing their own version.  And that will be required twice a day for LIFE...........at a 1000% markup.   :o
Yeah, I saw that in the other thread.  I think you're exactly right.  Modify it just enough to be patentable, and do everything possible to discount and discredit the original medicine.  Follow the money indeed.

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Spin Zone / Re: New Covid Surge
« on: September 07, 2021, 04:13:51 AM »
The section under therapeutic advances gives lots of examples saying it’s not certain.  The conclusion uses words like could and suggests and “are possible”, which denote uncertainty.

There should be more studies since the therapy hasn’t been vetted. Or, are you guys in favor of large scale testing of drugs on the population now?  Isn’t that your complaint about the vaccines?  They aren’t proven, so we should be testing them out in controlled circumstances?

Apples and oranges!  Ivermectin has already been tested large scale!  Just not for this particular disease. The vaccine had never been tested on humans before the rushed initial mass testing just last year. No history of safe use. Ivermectin has been widely used for decades.

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Spin Zone / Re: Why I’m not getting the vaccine
« on: September 07, 2021, 04:07:27 AM »
The meme implies that the vaccinated are afraid they themselves will get sick from the unvaccinated. But that isn’t necessarily true. They don’t like that the unvaccinated are getting sick and forcing continued lockdowns, social distancing, etc. as well as hospitals filled with covid patients so that when they have their heart attack they can’t get a bed.

That being said, I’m sure there is a subset, probably a large one, that irrationally fears getting covid even if they are vaccinated. The meme applies to them exactly.

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Spin Zone / Re: Why I’m not getting the vaccine
« on: September 07, 2021, 01:47:55 AM »


The Leftist narrative in the Media and from Democrats is that the plethora of unvaccinated are causing an overwhelming level of the virus for the vaccinated which is IDIOTIC, but the useful idiots are buying it.

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Spin Zone / Re: New Covid Surge
« on: September 06, 2021, 03:57:32 PM »
Studies have already been done.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/

Conclusion - there is weak evidence that it does anything, but it’s well tolerated and had few side effects, so there appears to be no harm.

So of course, that means they’ll jump right on it since that’s essentially the same thing Fauci said about masks.

Agree with Rush. I’m unable to reconcile your summary with the conclusion in the abstract, particularly their use of “significant impact”:

“Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.”

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Spin Zone / Re: New Covid Surge
« on: September 06, 2021, 01:59:38 PM »
Studies have already been done.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/

Conclusion - there is weak evidence that it does anything, but it’s well tolerated and had few side effects, so there appears to be no harm.

So of course, that means they’ll jump right on it since that’s essentially the same thing Fauci said about masks.

Not sure what you mean by weak evidence that it does anything. That article seems to be saying there is strong evidence that it is a good treatment as long as it’s used early.

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Spin Zone / Re: How’s Florida doing?
« on: September 05, 2021, 07:40:51 AM »
About the only place masks are required are doctors offices and hospitals.  For a while the masks almost disappeared, but they do seem to be coming back, but on a voluntary basis.  I'm still curious why people choose to wear a mask when they don't have to, then wear it under their nose or as a chin strap.  In a lot of smaller stores the only people wearing masks are a few customers.  Most staff doesn't wear them.

Security blanket and conformity.

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Spin Zone / Re: New Covid Surge
« on: September 03, 2021, 11:44:03 AM »
The wonky testing is keeping fear and uncertainty alive.

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Spin Zone / Re: New Covid Surge
« on: September 03, 2021, 11:35:19 AM »
Regadless of whether they give her Ivermectin or Hydrxychloroquine or not, she needs to go to the hospital.  My brother just got out of the hospital.  He was on Pred, Zith and zinc, and IV fluids instead of I or H, but he recovered.  He resisted going to the hospital until he almost couldn't stand up or breath.  I believe if he stayed home any longer he would have died.

What does it say about the official medical arm of the cabal (let’s just call it what it is) that people are afraid to go to the hospital in AMERICA because they see it as a death sentence?

“If this were a true pandemic, people would be killing each other to get the vaccine, not giving up their livelihoods to avoid it.”


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Spin Zone / Re: mu variant - who could have seen this coming (no pun)
« on: September 03, 2021, 06:52:01 AM »
Just saw a report claiming monoclonal vaccines against its fusogenic protein completely blocked infection.
That's impossible.  Governor DeSantis was promoting monoclonal infusions and the liberal press had a fit that he was politicizing medicine.

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Spin Zone / Re: New Covid Surge
« on: September 02, 2021, 02:15:55 PM »
I know a couple of people that said they tested positive.  But on further investigation, they were given antibody tests instead of antigen tests.  If you had Covid previously, you will test positive on an antibody test.  But I doubt a college would make that mistake.

Nope, no mistake.  She also had the antibody test and was indeed positive for that, proving she is immune.

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