PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: invflatspin on July 18, 2018, 11:24:40 AM
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I cannot wrap my head around how people think this way. It's all "me, me, I, I, myself, me, I, I, me". What a bunch of crap. Just GTFO. I don't give a wet dribbly shit if you can't fit in where you were born. Not - our - problem!
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44732337
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Therefore, I've had to prepare myself in case I'm deported. So I've been planning to move to Germany if it happens. I've been learning German without my family knowing because I know if my parents find out now they'll try to talk me out of it.
How does she expect to get to Germany? Walk across the border?
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El Paso has immigration checkpoints surrounding the city? Seriously? Like actual road block where you have to stop and show your papers?
Why do I find that so hard to believe?
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El Paso has immigration checkpoints surrounding the city? Seriously? Like actual road block where you have to stop and show your papers?
Why do I find that so hard to believe?
Well, it's a gross exaggeration put forth for those who've never been within 300 miles of El Paso. Sometimes, but very rarely there is a border check setup on I25 just north of Las Cruces. When it is active, the entire world knows about it within 20 minutes of it being setup. So, they only catch aliens who are already enroute on I10 or 25. Sometimes, but rarely there is a temp border check setup on I10 near Lordsburg, and also near Van Horn going east. But it's extremely rare. I have heard the ICE are checking buses quite often, and I have no problem with that. There used to be a perm check point on 54 going north out of El Paso, but I haven't been up that way much, and my bet is that it's rarely manned anymore. The fact is - fixed stations, or temp setups on highways are so inefficient that the BP has gotten away from doing them. They also cause a lot of grief for the locals who drive those roads every day, and complain about the time wasting.
If she wants to get out of town without documents, the smartest thing to do is to have daddy buy her a 125-250cc used motorcycle, helmet, and cut her hair short. Hop on, and head right up 213, directly towards White Sands. No one will stop someone on a bike going toward White Sands. When she gets there, pick either left or right, and it's a free shot all the way to either coast.
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El Paso has immigration checkpoints surrounding the city? Seriously? Like actual road block where you have to stop and show your papers?
Why do I find that so hard to believe?
Last time I drove from Laredo, McAllen and Eagle Pass, on the highway northbound about 50 miles in, there were roadblocks set up with Customs and Border Agents checking cars.
That was in the past 18 months BTW.
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This girl's parents really screwed her over. Brought her here illegally when she was too young to know any better, then they get residency and leave her without it? How do you do that to a child? This is all on the parents, they were the adults that put her in this pickle.
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Oh, woe is me.
I'm an illegal alien and I have to be careful not to get caught while I get a University degree.
Why doesn't UT check them thar papers.
She's probably getting a scholarship and/or tuition assistance too.
We should build a wall.
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Oh, woe is me.
I'm an illegal alien and I have to be careful not to get caught while I get a University degree.
Why doesn't UT check them thar papers.
She's probably getting a scholarship and/or tuition assistance too.
We should build a wall.
I know I don't get that either. How the hell do illegals enroll in a university?
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I know I don't get that either. How the hell do illegals enroll in a university?
Um - why should a university be in the business of hunting out illegal immigrants?
Fortunately most businesses in the U.S. don’t demand proof of our citizenship before doing busines with us. The grocery store doesn’t demand I prove I’m not legal before they sell me a loaf of bread - thankfully.
Obviously government backed loans or grants are another story - available only to citizens or legal immigrants meeting appropriate criteria.
But if the loans and grants are from private entities - well, it’s their money and can set whatever policy they want IMHO.
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Um - why should a university be in the business of hunting out illegal immigrants?
This might be a good question to ask every university outside the US. I had the great good fortune to be able to take one semester at Cambridge in the UK. I can't begin to describe the amount and tonnage of paperwork needed to get enrolled as a US citizen. Once enrolled, I had a proctor who checked with me several times each month. Had I gone off the rails, or done something not on my visa, I would have been denied access to the campus, removed from the roll, and probably deported within a matter of days.
The US is the only nation which does not carefully check visitor status for higher education. Hmmmm
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Um - why should a university be in the business of hunting out illegal immigrants?
Fortunately most businesses in the U.S. don’t demand proof of our citizenship before doing busines with us. The grocery store doesn’t demand I prove I’m not legal before they sell me a loaf of bread - thankfully.
Obviously government backed loans or grants are another story - available only to citizens or legal immigrants meeting appropriate criteria.
But if the loans and grants are from private entities - well, it’s their money and can set whatever policy they want IMHO.
That's just the point. It (UTEP) is supported in part by government (taxpayers) money. I have no problem letting foreign nationals get an education in the U.S. if they do it legally and above board. Don't you need a student visa to do it legally? How is she attending school without a student visa? She doesn't even have a driver's license. Did she just make up a name and start attending classes? Or does she have some kind of forged documents?
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That's just the point. It (UTEP) is supported in part by government (taxpayers) money. I have no problem letting foreign nationals get an education in the U.S. if they do it legally and above board. Don't you need a student visa to do it legally? How is she attending school without a student visa? She doesn't even have a driver's license. Did she just make up a name and start attending classes? Or does she have some kind of forged documents?
Also, she says she isn't a "criminal". What does she thing "Illegal" means?\\
AND, she says she is trapped in an American City. Yet she acknowledges that if she is caught, she will be returned to her home country. Therefore, she is not trapped.
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That's just the point. It (UTEP) is supported in part by government (taxpayers) money. I have no problem letting foreign nationals get an education in the U.S. if they do it legally and above board. Don't you need a student visa to do it legally? How is she attending school without a student visa? She doesn't even have a driver's license. Did she just make up a name and start attending classes? Or does she have some kind of forged documents?
She may simply have lied about being a citizen. I did not have a driver license when I entered college, nor do I recall having to present any other ID such birth certificate to prove my citizenship (that was ~44 years ago, though, so my memory may be wrong.) Also, she may have honestly answered "no" to the required question "Are you a citizen?" yet simply did not supply visa information and UTEP disregarded that missing info. From the ApplyTexas "International Undergraduate Admission Application" web site help https://www.applytexas.org/adappc/html/intl_ugrad18_help.html (https://www.applytexas.org/adappc/html/intl_ugrad18_help.html):
Answer the questions regarding your citizenship status. If you have one, be sure to include with your application a copy of your permanent resident card and/or notice of action from the USCIS.
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Preliminary Visa Information: If you are already in the United States, please indicate your type of visa and its expiration date, and if you plan to leave the US before enrolling. If you are not already in the United States, please indicate the type of visa desired.
Please enter your expected source(s) of financial support. Please indicate your marital status. List the information for all dependents who will require immigration documents to accompany you to the U.S.
Application link: https://www.applytexas.org/adappc/gen/c_start.WBX (https://www.applytexas.org/adappc/gen/c_start.WBX)
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She may simply have lied about being a citizen. I did not have a driver license when I entered college, nor do I recall having to present any other ID such birth certificate to prove my citizenship (that was ~44 years ago,
I remember being required to supply my social security number. The university used that as your student ID. They have since changed that practice because apparently it makes you vulnerable to fraud. Like, illegal aliens using your SS number maybe?
I just heard on the news that San Fransisco is going to allow illegals to vote. What is the point of having a country?
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I just heard on the news that San Fransisco is going to allow illegals to vote. What is the point of having a country?
That's exactly the goal.
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I just heard on the news that San Fransisco is going to allow illegals to vote. What is the point of having a country?
So why not allow anyone who wants to fly out to San Francisco to vote? Or allow anyone who request an absentee ballot in SF to vote as well?
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So why not allow anyone who wants to fly out to San Francisco to vote? Or allow anyone who request an absentee ballot in SF to vote as well?
I think they would be ok with that as long as you are a Democrat.
Then the question is: can that person voting in SF still vote in their home elections? How will that be enforced if IDs aren't required?
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I think they would be ok with that as long as you are a Democrat.
Then the question is: can that person voting in SF still vote in their home elections? How will that be enforced if IDs aren't required?
The alt left progressives are telling us borders aren't needed, and that borders are repressive. So if there is no need in borders, there is no need for voter ID, correct?
SF is essentially saying anyone and everyone can vote in their elections. SF should remove all signs along the roads and highways that identify it's borders with neighboring cities.
It's going to be a utopia I tell ya!
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I think they would be ok with that as long as you are a Democrat.
Then the question is: can that person voting in SF still vote in their home elections? How will that be enforced if IDs aren't required?
It's kinda tricky. One could say they 'moved' to SF, set up a domicile, voted, then changed their mind, moved somewhere else and vote where there new domicile has been established. If one want's to vote in the SF election, it would be a requirement that they meet whatever the residency req is for that state/county. Apparently SF has decided that voter participation is more important than lawful representation of the community in which one lives.
We could load up a bus or 20 full of conservatives, move into a hotel for a day, get a driver license, vote, then move back where we came from and I guess technically it would be legal.
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We could load up a bus or 20 full of conservatives, move into a hotel for a day, get a driver license, vote, then move back where we came from and I guess technically it would be legal.
I’ve always wanted to see San Francisco! I’m in! Sourdough bread ... great restaurants ... the Presidio ...
Wait ... I hear there’s poop on the streets there. Does anyone know if the tourist experience is still good?
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I’ve always wanted to see San Francisco! I’m in! Sourdough bread ... great restaurants ... the Presidio ...
Wait ... I hear there’s poop on the streets there. Does anyone know if the tourist experience is still good?
My buddy just visited there, and he says it is not a good trip anymore. The city is trying to keep the tourist areas cleaned up, but he says it's still pretty disgusting. The wharf is going to be ok, and a few of the trolly lines are ok, but the majority of the 'nice' parts of SF are now bad. He's 6'3" 260Lbs, and says he would not go around the town after 9pm without being armed.
If you like wine, I might suggest Napa, Sonoma, Mendocino tour, and maybe take a one day in SF by bus that stops at the big pier, Coit Tower, and through the Presidio. Would not recommend staying there.
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I remember being required to supply my social security number. The university used that as your student ID. They have since changed that practice because apparently it makes you vulnerable to fraud. Like, illegal aliens using your SS number maybe?
I just heard on the news that San Fransisco is going to allow illegals to vote. What is the point of having a country?
Local elections...but gosh, it would be lawful if San Fran's entire vote count was nullified because this was viewed as fraud when they cannot prove the controls to prevent illegal aliens were properly in place.
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Local elections...but gosh, it would be lawful if San Fran's entire vote count was nullified because this was viewed as fraud when they cannot prove the controls to prevent illegal aliens were properly in place.
This may be the perfect test case to take to trial. Obviously, it would sail easily through the county, state, and 9th circus without any objection. But - upon reaching SCOTUS, things would be put to right. It will take more than a year to wend through, but eventually, we would have new activist law on the books for certification of votes, and eligibility.
If I were a wealthy conservative living in the district, this would be my pet project for the next 3 years. Happily, I'm not in SF.
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I just heard on the news that San Fransisco is going to allow illegals to vote. What is the point of having a country?
As the moonbattery ramps up, as with this SF voting thing, the abolish ICE thing, and so on, it strikes me that we are seeing a last, desperate attempt to survive, if not the very death throes of the socialist movement in the Democratic Party.
They see that Trump isn’t going to let up until the republic is restored to the Constitution and the people. So they’re unleashing everything they’ve got to regain the great losses from what they see as their base.
The flak is always heaviest over the target, and Trump is definitely over his target.
Or am I being too optimistic?
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Yes, you are being too optimistic. The Left is not dead now any more than the Right was 10 years ago. They will be back and smarter for having been out of power.
What you are seeing is not the Left struggling for survival, but rather the hyper left struggling to control the Democrat party. After decades and decades of waiting, they finally get some movement and now they are desperate to “close”. But they can’t win. Either the Democrats reject the socialists now or else America will reject them in the general election.