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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: nddons on March 15, 2022, 09:40:19 AM
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Matt Walsh nails it in an irrefutable manner. 36 minutes long, but worth it.
https://youtu.be/oReo2f_1P2I
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The fact that they are born with a cock and balls should be enough of a reason for any normal person.
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The dude beat an Olympic silver medalist in the 500 free at the NCAA championships. Silence from the feminist crowd. Disgusting.
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The dude beat an Olympic silver medalist in the 500 free at the NCAA championships. Silence from the feminist crowd. Disgusting.
They are still waiting for the media to tell them who to be mad at. But when they do, It will be Trump.
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That's a MAN, man!
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I'm sure he's so proud to be beating up on women.
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That's a MAN, man!
male, yes.
But a man, a real man? not so much...
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I can understand their dilemma. Say you love swimming, or whatever sport. It’s your whole life, you’re obsessed with it. But you’re also trans, so you transition. But when you block testosterone in your body, you really are not on equal footing with men anymore. Muscle mass shrinks when you suppress testosterone. So that puts you at a disadvantage if you compete in men’s sports.
But your muscle loss does not bring you down to equal footing with women either. You still have bigger bones, more muscle, longer limbs, and generally a height and weight advantage.
The claim that trans women are equivalent to XX women is false. I don’t know how they can say that with a straight face. At the same time, they’re no longer up to optimum male strength so you can’t say they should compete as a man. Their male competition now has ten times their level of testosterone. That’s not fair either.
My opinion is they need to decide what’s more important and choose one. Often in life you can’t have your cake and eat it too. Either be an athlete, or transition, but stop trying to do both. Either way it’s unfair. Either to you, or to your competitors. If being the opposite sex to which you were born is so important you can’t live otherwise, then find some other hobby or profession. People have to give up what they love all the time. Your selfishness, or addiction to your sport, is ruining women’s athletics.
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The claim that trans women are equivalent to XX women is false. I don’t know how they can say that with a straight face.
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"straight face" .... er....
At the same time, they’re no longer up to optimum male strength so you can’t say they should compete as a man. Their male competition now has ten times their level of testosterone. That’s not fair either.
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Someone screws up his body with drugs and still want to be "fair"? I don't think so Tim...
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"straight face" .... er....
Someone screws up his body with drugs and still want to be "fair"? I don't think so Tim...
The sad truth is, you can’t transition. No matter what you do with hormones and surgery, you were born with either male or female chromosomes and nothing can change that. Every cell in your body has either XX or XY and will for your whole life.
I sympathize with those who have gender identity issues, it’s a real thing. And I have no problem with them doing whatever they can to feel better about themselves, hormones, clothes, surgery, whatever. Go for it. But that doesn’t give them the right to force others to accommodate them in ways that hurt others. M to F transgender athletes hurt the prospects of genetic females, period, end of story. To compete in women’s sports you should be required to have XX chromosomes.
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One solution is to create two more competing groups: trans-men and trans-women. So, for example, trans-men would compete with other trans-men.
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The vast majority of the modern trannies are full of shit.
They are attention whores riding the bullshit being shoveled by the
bullshit liberals.
Their agenda is political not medical. It’s no different than how the
queer mafia politicized aids.
That ducking swimmer is so full of shit his breath stinks.
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The vast majority of the modern trannies are full of shit.
They are attention whores riding the bullshit being shoveled by the
bullshit liberals.
Their agenda is political not medical. It’s no different than how the
queer mafia politicized aids.
That ducking swimmer is so full of shit his breath stinks.
Making it political has been a disaster. They were making good medical progress addressing it as a rare but real condition. Then the left took it up as a cause and has made a circus out of it all, and in the process convinced a bunch of impressionable kids they’re trans when they aren’t, creating a massive problem that didn’t exist before.
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I understand he/she finished fifth in the 200M event.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/golf/trans-swimmer-lia-thomas-finishes-fifth-in-bid-for-second-ncaa-championship/ar-AAVfqSa
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I understand he/she finished fifth in the 200M event.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/golf/trans-swimmer-lia-thomas-finishes-fifth-in-bid-for-second-ncaa-championship/ar-AAVfqSa
He/she? Racist! Transphobic! Don’t you know “they” is the preferred term?
Wait, if “he” wants to be a woman then “he” wants to be “she”, but if he is a she then that means there is such a thing as he and she which means gender is binary but we have been told gender isn’t binary and it is racist to believe it is so to call “them” either a he or a she is wrong but he wants to be a she so we have to do it so as not to hurt his/her/their feelings but then we are affirming the binary nature of gender and that is racist so it is wrong to do as “she” asks but if we don’t do as “she” asks then we are racist so no matter what we are screwed… which is exactly the goal of the left.
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Liberals are stupid.
Liberal politicians are corrupt and stupid…
Girls are girls.
Boys are boys.
Trans are mental.
Liberals are stupid.
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One solution is to create two more competing groups: trans-men and trans-women. So, for example, trans-men would compete with other trans-men.
I feel like that is the obvious solution. But it may come with other problems. What if people then want to split off and subdivide based on other parameters? What if people claim redheads are on average better or worse than brunettes and blondes in sports? Where does it end?
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Caitlyn Jenner has an interesting take on this. It’s not so much Lia Thomas doing anything wrong, because she (he,they) is abiding by the rules. The problem is the rules. And she (Caitlyn) is exactly right, as long as the sports committees who make the rules allow this, it will continue.
She (Caitlyn) is trashed and hated by the left as an apostate even though she was a trail blazer for trans rights. She doesn’t follow the “woke” agenda, she refuses the left’s groupthink, so they now consider her “anti-trans” which is ludicrous as she is the iconic example of a genuine and successful trans, before all the woke brainwashing causing naive kids to turn themselves into fake attention seeking pseudo trans.
This proves that the left doesn’t actually give a shit about transgenders. All they care about is you submit to them and their ever changing, illogical, and destructive rules.
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I can understand their dilemma. Say you love swimming, or whatever sport. It’s your whole life, you’re obsessed with it. But you’re also trans, so you transition. But when you block testosterone in your body, you really are not on equal footing with men anymore. Muscle mass shrinks when you suppress testosterone. So that puts you at a disadvantage if you compete in men’s sports.
But your muscle loss does not bring you down to equal footing with women either. You still have bigger bones, more muscle, longer limbs, and generally a height and weight advantage.
The claim that trans women are equivalent to XX women is false. I don’t know how they can say that with a straight face. At the same time, they’re no longer up to optimum male strength so you can’t say they should compete as a man. Their male competition now has ten times their level of testosterone. That’s not fair either.
My opinion is they need to decide what’s more important and choose one. Often in life you can’t have your cake and eat it too. Either be an athlete, or transition, but stop trying to do both. Either way it’s unfair. Either to you, or to your competitors. If being the opposite sex to which you were born is so important you can’t live otherwise, then find some other hobby or profession. People have to give up what they love all the time. Your selfishness, or addiction to your sport, is ruining women’s athletics.
I agree with your points, except for the “dilemma” of not being able to complete with men. BS. They are men, and if they want to compete, that’s how they should compete. Doing whatever they do to “transition” is 100% elective. It’s not medically necessary. It is a synonym to athletes taking testosterone and HGH to compete at a higher level than their God-given body allows them to compete naturally. That’s cheating, and why it is usually not permitted in athletics.
As the dad of a former DI collegiate swimmer and beneficiary of Title IX, making the finals in a championship means everything. I saw a video this AM of a swimmer who’s teammate came in 17th place in an event at the NCAA championships. The top 16 went to the finals. She was devastated. Thomas came in first in the Semifinals, eliminating that swimmer’s chance to advance. That’s fucking wrong, and hideously wrong.
And this is allowed to persist because the fucking cowards at the NCAA and in academia are ignoring science and using some arbitrary measure of testosterone to permit Thomas to compete. They completely ignore that this person went through puberty as a male with all the resulting increased bone and muscle mass, and height and weight.
Even more hideous is the widespread acceptance of this cheating and beating up on girls. The other female competitors feel they will be ostracized if they don’t “support” this fiction, which is destroying their sport and their chances to win.
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I agree with your points, except for the “dilemma” of not being able to complete with men. BS. They are men, and if they want to compete, that’s how they should compete. Doing whatever they do to “transition” is 100% elective. It’s not medically necessary. It is a synonym to athletes taking testosterone and HGH to compete at a higher level than their God-given body allows them to compete naturally. That’s cheating, and why it is usually not permitted in athletics.
As the dad of a former DI collegiate swimmer and beneficiary of Title IX, making the finals in a championship means everything. I saw a video this AM of a swimmer who’s teammate came in 17th place in an event at the NCAA championships. The top 16 went to the finals. She was devastated. Thomas came in first in the Semifinals, eliminating that swimmer’s chance to advance. That’s fucking wrong, and hideously wrong.
And this is allowed to persist because the fucking cowards at the NCAA and in academia are ignoring science and using some arbitrary measure of testosterone to permit Thomas to compete. They completely ignore that this person went through puberty as a male with all the resulting increased bone and muscle mass, and height and weight.
Even more hideous is the widespread acceptance of this cheating and beating up on girls. The other female competitors feel they will be ostracized if they don’t “support” this fiction, which is destroying their sport and their chances to win.
I don’t think we disagree at all. It’s only a dilemma if they feel they must do the transition hormones and then to compete as men they would be reverse cheating by lowering their testosterone. If they want to compete they should compete as men without transitioning and keep their natural levels of testosterone.
We still haven’t gotten to the bottom of why they exist in the first place. They seem to have a self loathing on account of their biological sex. At least all the ones I was close to did. Any other condition involving self loathing is considered pathological. Yet the politicization of this issue now requires we treat it as a normal variation. There are theories that it is a normal variation, like the evolutionary benefit of a “gay uncle” but those theories work the same on “straight up” homosexuals, who are comfortable with their chromosomal sex, they just are sexually attracted to their own sex. It doesn’t explain what benefit there is to the species to have transgenders.
We simply don’t know. To reform society and language as broadly as we are for the sake of such a tiny percent of people without even having any idea why they exist in the first place is concerning. I thought the left was all about following the science. Where is the science showing it’s a good thing to replace singular gender pronouns with plural? Where is the science that shows it’s a good thing to encourage preschoolers to consider whether they want to be the other gender or no gender at all?
There is no logic or science. It’s being used by the left for power, to make anyone who disagrees with them into pariahs, more hateful labels to heap on the political opposition for no purpose except to marginalize them and gain control of allowed thought.
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Dude is just ugly.
Being a pretend girl doesn't help at all.
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Dude is just ugly.
Being a pretend girl doesn't help at all.
I don’t think he’s bad looking as a male. Terrible as a female.
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I think the Thomas guy is trolling the world. It’s too obvious, and what a hoot to get people arguing about it.
I have a dear young friend who decided five years ago to be female instead of male. No surgery, but hormones. Weirdly, his wife is fine with whole charade and refers to them as a lesbian couple. Ha ha and all that.
Sadly, their 12-year-old daughter is confused as hell and proudly proclaims she is pansexual. So, the evil practices of bringing sexuality AND promoting pretending to be the opposite gender, have probably robbed her of the joys of womanhood, wifehood, and possibly motherhood.
Oh, and they live in Seattle. I call Seattle the flyover city. We don’t go near it anymore.
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I think the Thomas guy is trolling the world. It’s too obvious, and what a hoot to get people arguing about it.
I have a dear young friend who decided five years ago to be female instead of male. No surgery, but hormones. Weirdly, his wife is fine with whole charade and refers to them as a lesbian couple. Ha ha and all that.
Sadly, their 12-year-old daughter is confused as hell and proudly proclaims she is pansexual. So, the evil practices of bringing sexuality AND promoting pretending to be the opposite gender, have probably robbed her of the joys of womanhood, wifehood, and possibly motherhood.
Oh, and they live in Seattle. I call Seattle the flyover city. We don’t go near it anymore.
Heartbreaking.
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I think the Thomas guy is trolling the world. It’s too obvious, and what a hoot to get people arguing about it.
I have a dear young friend who decided five years ago to be female instead of male. No surgery, but hormones. Weirdly, his wife is fine with whole charade and refers to them as a lesbian couple. Ha ha and all that.
Sadly, their 12-year-old daughter is confused as hell and proudly proclaims she is pansexual. So, the evil practices of bringing sexuality AND promoting pretending to be the opposite gender, have probably robbed her of the joys of womanhood, wifehood, and possibly motherhood.
Oh, and they live in Seattle. I call Seattle the flyover city. We don’t go near it anymore.
I agree Becky. That's child abuse and CRIMINAL.
Stan and Rush nailed it. Great insight guys (gals). Lol!
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Lets just do away with male/female or man/women and go with Outy and Inny.
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I thought about going with got a dick/don't got a dick, but I don't want anyone to feel bad cause they don't have one.
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https://youtu.be/BEnKLhi83J8
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Lets just do away with male/female or man/women and go with Outy and Inny.
That’s what we always have gone with, but some outies wanted to be innies and vice versa. There is, it seems, no escaping this insanity.
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I thought about going with got a dick/don't got a dick, but I don't want anyone to feel bad cause they don't have one.
By that, Lori Lightfoot is male. She claims to have the biggest dick in Chicago. But I thought she identified as a black gay woman.
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By that, Lori Lightfoot is male. She claims to have the biggest dick in Chicago. But I thought she identified as a black gay woman.
anyone can CLAIM anything thing they like, doesn't make it so.
I can claim to be a 6' 5" adonis, but, sadly, I'm not.
and, being a dick doesn't make someone a man.
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https://townhall.com/columnists/derekhunter/2022/03/20/to-hell-with-these-leftists-n2604762
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BTW, He finished 8th in the 100M race.
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BTW, He finished 8th in the 100M race.
Part of me wonders if he threw the races on purpose.
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Part of me wonders if he threw the races on purpose.
Anybody willing to pretend to be a broad just to feel special enough by beating a girl is far too egotistical to throw a race to make people stop
pointing out that he's a fraud.
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https://townhall.com/columnists/derekhunter/2022/03/20/to-hell-with-these-leftists-n2604762
Nailed it.
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Part of me wonders if he threw the races on purpose.
I was thinking the exact same thing. “See, see, I don’t always have the advantage.”
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Part of me wonders if he threw the races on purpose.
That’s what Jenner said about the one he won, because he won by only a small amount. She (Caitlyn) said she thought he/she (Thomas) deliberately didn’t win by as much as he was actually capable of which was several times more than what he did win by.
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anyone can CLAIM anything thing they like, doesn't make it so.
I can claim to be a 6' 5" adonis, but, sadly, I'm not.
and, being a dick doesn't make someone a man.
I’m sure her claim is true, she does have the biggest dick in Chicago… it’s in her nightstand.
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This belongs here.
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The emperor has no clothes.
He nails it. I agree with every word.
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The only thing that dude needs is a psychiatrist.
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The only thing that dude needs is a psychiatrist.
Or even an old fashioned ass kicking.
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Or even an old fashioned ass kicking.
Nah, I draw the line at violence. I don’t approve of literal “gay bashing” but then I’m biased on that subject.
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Nah, I draw the line at violence. I don’t approve of literal “gay bashing” but then I’m biased on that subject.
OK, I'll agree with not literal gay bashing, but is this guy really gay? Or is he just scamming the system?
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OK, I'll agree with not literal gay bashing, but is this guy really gay? Or is he just scamming the system?
Try to keep up. He’s trans, not gay. ;D
Edit: Whoops, she’s trans. Now I’m not keeping up. And it was me that said “gay bashing” so mea culpa.
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Try to keep up. He’s trans, not gay. ;D
Edit: Whoops, she’s trans. Now I’m not keeping up. And it was me that said “gay bashing” so mea culpa.
no, you had it right the first time
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If he digs chicks and transforms to a "she" and still digs chicks is "she" now gay?
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If he digs chicks and transforms to a "she" and still digs chicks is "she" now gay?
Good point. So you can be both trans and gay. I understand this is the case with Bruce (Caitlyn) Jenner. He/she always liked women and still is only attracted to women. She has fathered several children. So if “she” is now a woman, but still only likes women I guess “she” is now a lesbian.
I don’t understand that. There are men who are sexually attracted to only women, but want to also be a woman. Surgically? Wouldn’t that make it a whole lot less fun to have sex? Would you now use a strap on? What’s the point of cutting off your dick?
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Craziness. A clinical term.
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I always thought it would be great to be a lesbian...
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A guy dressed up like a sheila! Look at that!
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A parent is pissed off when a teacher led a class of pre-schoolers in a chant of getting Joe Biden out:
https://nypost.com/2022/03/22/video-shows-preschoolers-chanting-they-want-joe-biden-out-during-class/
The clip showed the unnamed educator at the Turning Point Christian School in Norco asking the 4- and 5-year-old students, “Who’s our president?” The kids shout in unison, “Biden!” “What do we want to do with him?” the teacher asks: “We want him out!” her students yell back on Presidents’ Day.
“The teacher is indoctrinating her students,” the mother told the news outlet. McFadden said she has since pulled her daughter out of the school.
And yet it's perfectly OK to teach K through 3rd graders all about gay sex and tranny-ism. It's a "human right" to indoctrinate kids.
The world is insane.
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A parent is pissed off when a teacher led a class of pre-schoolers in a chant of getting Joe Biden out:
https://nypost.com/2022/03/22/video-shows-preschoolers-chanting-they-want-joe-biden-out-during-class/And yet it's perfectly OK to teach K through 3rd graders all about gay sex and tranny-ism. It's a "human right" to indoctrinate kids.
The world is insane.
So as long as their point of view is forced on others it's all good. But when the opposing point of view is brought out, now they get mad? Fuck them.
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So as long as their point of view is forced on others it's all good. But when the opposing point of view is brought out, now they get mad? Fuck them.
This is exactly what the left has done with censorship. They were opposed to censorship when it was leftist viewpoints being censored. But when it’s the right being censored they are all for it. With some few exceptions such as Brand or Maher who are staying with the anti-censorship liberal principle. They are being traditionally liberal, not like today’s so called “liberals” who are actually Orwellian totalitarians.
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This is exactly what the left has done with censorship. They were opposed to censorship when it was leftist viewpoints being censored. But when it’s the right being censored they are all for it. With some few exceptions such as Brand or Maher who are staying with the anti-censorship liberal principle. They are being traditionally liberal, not like today’s so called “liberals” who are actually Orwellian totalitarians.
I’m trying to remember a time when the left’s viewpoints were being censored by the right. I can’t come up with anything.
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I’m trying to remember a time when the left’s viewpoints were being censored by the right. I can’t come up with anything.
The whole red scare thing in the late 40s and 50s?
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The whole red scare thing in the late 40s and 50s?
I wasn’t alive then, but I see what you’re saying. I don’t think it was censorship from a media perspective as much as criminalizing freedom of thought and speech for communists or people alleged to be subversive.
In fact I think we are living through a brand new McCarthyism, but the tables have been turned.
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The whole red scare thing in the late 40s and 50s?
It was largely true but they reacted wrongly. Communist thought and actions are legal. They've now infiltrated every facet of society and have taken over. Great, huh?
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I wasn’t alive then, but I see what you’re saying. I don’t think it was censorship from a media perspective as much as criminalizing freedom of thought and speech for communists or people alleged to be subversive.
I wasn't alive either so I don't really know what the media allowed to print but anything regarded as communist was banned in some places so I imagine there probably was media censorship. It may have been more at state and local levels, or "privately owned" newspapers.
I was alive in the 60s and 70s and at that time I was aware that liberals, the hippy types, were against censorship on social matters such as sex, drugs, and new versions of spirituality.
Everyone was much more squeamish about personal bodily matters. You NEVER saw a tampon commercial on TV for example. But I don't think that was the right censoring the left so much as social convention in general. I can remember being appalled the first time I saw a tampon soaking up blue tinted water on TV. There was one commercial where some people were in a boat that sprang a leak. What to do? The lady pulled out a tampon and plugged the leak with it. TV in the middle of the day!
And then came erectile dysfunction commercials. Wasn't that Bob Dole doing some of those? But nothing could have prepared me for an ad I saw just last week on regular YouTube, not the kind you have to sign in to confirm your age... lube specifically for "back door" sex! Is nothing sacred anymore? Some things really ought to be kept behind closed doors. Not openly paraded where kids can see it. But even so I'm against laws on the matter. I oppose ALL forms of forced censorship. But certain things should be voluntarily policed by a polite society. But this should NEVER apply to politics, because politics is the discussion of power over our very lives, and that should always be fully open and free for discussion.
In fact I think we are living through a brand new McCarthyism, but the tables have been turned.
Absolutely we are!!
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Nothing brings the family together like a douche during your beloved TV show. Oh those Summer's Eve memories!
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I’m trying to remember a time when the left’s viewpoints were being censored by the right. I can’t come up with anything.
https://w12.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/290/pierce-v-united-states (https://w12.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/290/pierce-v-united-states)
The Supreme Court decision in Pierce v. United States, 252 U.S. 239 (1920), upheld the convictions of four socialists under the Espionage Act of 1917. Pierce, the last ruling regarding the criminal sections of the Espionage Act, represented another setback for civil liberties in the World War I era.
Socialists arrested for distributing pamphlet
On August 26, 1917, police in Albany, New York, arrested four socialists following their distribution of a four-page pamphlet entitled “The Price We Pay.” Written by Episcopal clergyman Irwin St. John Tucker, it argued that the war was the price paid for rejecting socialism and asserted that capitalists were responsible for U.S. entry into war. At a meeting of the Albany branch of the Socialist Party on July 11, 1917, members had initially voted not to circulate the pamphlet pending a decision by the U.S. district court in Maryland. When that court upheld the legality of the pamphlet, members distributed 7,000 copies over five weeks before their arrest.
Supreme Court upheld conviction
The Supreme Court heard oral argument on November 18 and 19, 1919, and ruled on March 8, 1920. Six of the Court’s members joined Justice Mahlon Pitney’s majority opinion, in which he condemned the “highly colored and sensational document.” The case turned on the jury’s authority to determine the danger posed by wartime speech. “What interpretations ought to be placed upon the pamphlet,” wrote Pitney, were “for the jury, not the court, to decide.” Pitney also insisted that “common knowledge” and President Woodrow Wilson’s statement justifying U.S. entry into war sufficed as evidence of the war’s meaning; thus, the pamphlet’s assertions of capitalist conspiracy were willfully “false statements” meant to hinder the war effort.
Dissenters rejected falsity of pamphlet
Justice Louis D. Brandeis dissented, joined by Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. Brandeis rejected the falsity of the pamphlet, insisting that it presented “opinion and judgment, not matters of fact.” Brandeis also thought the idea of allowing juries to distinguish interpretations from facts would “deny members of small political parties freedom of criticism and discussion,” particularly in wartime, “when feelings run high and the questions involved are deemed fundamental.”
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And then came erectile dysfunction commercials. Wasn't that Bob Dole doing some of those? But nothing could have prepared me for an ad I saw just last week on regular YouTube, not the kind you have to sign in to confirm your age... lube specifically for "back door" sex! Is nothing sacred anymore? Some things really ought to be kept behind closed doors. Not openly paraded where kids can see it.
That may be the plan. Commercials like that right where kids can see them. Then the kids ask questions. See! This stuff has to be taught to preschoolers!
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Well.....
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I'm actually OK with this. I think it will be cool when there are no more men's, women's, and whatever's divisions, and there's just a swim team, a basketball team, a football team, etc. If you qualify and make the team, then you get to compete. Far and away, the biggest advocates for this woke garbage have been white, gen XYZ, liberal women, and I find it so ironic that they are slitting their own throats. It's fascinating to watch the hypocrisy.