PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Anthony on April 26, 2017, 07:52:58 AM
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My, my. So, in general I have noticed that not only the media in general, but also the SPORTS MEDIA is consistently Liberal/Progressive. Even my local sports radio stations (one a CBS affiliate, the other an ABC/Disney/ESPN affiliate) have leftist leanings, and statements they make are clearly political and with a leftist bias. Lots of Trump, and Republican bashing, and pushing issues like MMGW, and others when they are able. I listen less, and less although I do follow some sports.
Here is the fallout.
It’s a dark day at ESPN.
The sports broadcasting network sent a memo to employees early Wednesday, informing them that a series of previously announced layoffs would take place today. The number of employees cut will be around 100, Fox News has learned.
The memo, from ESPN President John Skipper, noted that the network’s new talent lineup will be announced soon. The layoffs are expected to impact some of the network’s popular on-air personalities.
“Dynamic change demands an increased focus on versatility and value, and as a result, we have been engaged in the challenging process of determining the talent—anchors, analysts, reporters, writers and those who handle play-by-play—necessary to meet those demands,” Skipper wrote to employees. “We will implement changes in our talent lineup this week. A limited number of other positions will also be affected and a handful of new jobs will be posted to fill various needs.
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/04/26/espn-to-lay-off-about-100-employees-today-including-on-air-talent.html
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My, my. So, in general I have noticed that not only the media in general, but also the SPORTS MEDIA is consistently Liberal/Progressive. Even my local sports radio stations (one a CBS affiliate, the other an ABC/Disney/ESPN affiliate) have leftist leanings, and statements they make are clearly political and with a leftist bias. Lots of Trump, and Republican bashing, and pushing issues like MMGW, and others when they are able. I listen less, and less although I do follow some sports.
Here is the fallout.
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/04/26/espn-to-lay-off-about-100-employees-today-including-on-air-talent.html
The ones that are being layed off were probably not left-leaning enough.
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My, my. So, in general I have noticed that not only the media in general, but also the SPORTS MEDIA is consistently Liberal/Progressive. Even my local sports radio stations (one a CBS affiliate, the other an ABC/Disney/ESPN affiliate) have leftist leanings, and statements they make are clearly political and with a leftist bias. Lots of Trump, and Republican bashing, and pushing issues like MMGW, and others when they are able. I listen less, and less although I do follow some sports.
Not surprising, ESPN is owned by ABC, and thus must adhere to the corporate agenda.
It really comes from all sides, just about every network (besides Fox) leans left to some degree.
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Not surprising, ESPN is owned by ABC, and thus must adhere to the corporate agenda.
It really comes from all sides, just about every network (besides Fox) leans left to some degree.
All true, but I am tired of having my "entertainment time" politicized with any political views, but especially ones in which I disagree. Remember Bob Costas's rant against legally owned guns, and for MORE gun control during Sunday Night Football. Thanks NBC! I am there to watch and hear about football, not politics!
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What I don't understand is why a sports-oriented media outlet would purposely alienate half their audience with a political agenda. They would have many more viewers if they stayed out of politics entirely. Pushing an agenda doesn't increase their audience of the same mindset and won't change the minds of those with a different mindset. It just doesn't make economic sense to lean one way or the other in what should be a fairly neutral subject.
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What I don't understand is why a sports-oriented media outlet would purposely alienate half their audience with a political agenda. They would have many more viewers if they stayed out of politics entirely. Pushing an agenda doesn't increase their audience of the same mindset and won't change the minds of those with a different mindset. It just doesn't make economic sense to lean one way or the other in what should be a fairly neutral subject.
Maybe it has to do with ESPN's declining subscriptions and the large payments for coverage? Not an ESPN subscriber, so can't comment on their politics.
http://www.businessinsider.com/espn-mistakes-led-to-layoffs-2015-10
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Maybe it has to do with ESPN's declining subscriptions and the large payments for coverage? Not an ESPN subscriber, so can't comment on their politics.
The declining subscriptions may be partially that time has passed them by, but also may be people are tired of their politics. I am sure a number of things contribute to their current hardship, but forcing politics on sports cannot help.
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Maybe it has to do with ESPN's declining subscriptions and the large payments for coverage? Not an ESPN subscriber, so can't comment on their politics.
http://www.businessinsider.com/espn-mistakes-led-to-layoffs-2015-10
Gary, you forget where you are. Has to be leftist leanings, the root cause of everything bad in the world. Has to be.
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Remember Bob Costas's rant against legally owned guns, and for MORE gun control during Sunday Night Football. Thanks NBC! I am there to watch and hear about football, not politics!
I grew up a rabid fan of my local NFL team, and still watch them when I can, but I'm really about to give the NFL the boot. Hispanic heritage month, pink titties month, black heritage month, ENOUGH. I just want to watch a blessed football game and not be preached at. I hope all these special interest groups are going to carry the NFL forward, because we normal beer drinking traditional NFL fans are about to head for the exits.
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Gary, you forget where you are. Has to be leftist leanings, the root cause of everything bad in the world. Has to be.
<slaps forehead> Duh! Must have gone off on a tangent of logical thinking!! ;D
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I grew up a rabid fan of my local NFL team, and still watch them when I can, but I'm really about to give the NFL the boot. Hispanic heritage month, pink titties month, black heritage month, ENOUGH. I just want to watch a blessed football game and not be preached at. I hope all these special interest groups are going to carry the NFL forward, because we normal beer drinking traditional NFL fans are about to head for the exits.
When Colin Kaepernick pulled his stunt of refusing to stand for the National Anthem and the NFL supported it, their ratings tanked. Also that season was the ambush of the Dallas police officers in which 5 officers were killed. Some players on the Dallas Cowboys decided to wear #5 decals to honor the fallen officers and the NFL told them they couldn't. The NFL is becoming more and more political and they're losing ratings as a result. People just want to watch the game.
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ESPN has a dearth of talent which results in declining support.
Their never ending pandering to progressive ideology, including firing talented sportscasters for saying something privately that wasn't liberal enough has turned off lots of people.
Steingar is upset because people noticed and he thinks that should be illegal, obviously. The university model of supporting the progressive agenda by denying free speech, unless you say what you're told by progressive morons and pathetic excuse for university educators, is another factor in play.
The worse the network aligns itself with fascist policies embraced by people like steingar, the more and more intelligent people will turn their backs.
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<slaps forehead> Duh! Must have gone off on a tangent of logical thinking!! ;D
I don't care if it is left leaning or right leaning, I just don't want to see, and hear politics when watching/listening to sports. It is an escape, that's all, and to be bombarded with anything political isn't relaxing. Just like when Bruce Springsteen gets political at his concerts. It isn't necessary.
It just happens it is well known that ESPN, and sports media in general has a liberal/progressive bias, as do many if not most Pro sports leagues.
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When Colin Kaepernick pulled his stunt of refusing to stand for the National Anthem and the NFL supported it, their ratings tanked. Also that season was the ambush of the Dallas police officers in which 5 officers were killed. Some players on the Dallas Cowboys decided to wear #5 decals to honor the fallen officers and the NFL told them they couldn't. The NFL is becoming more and more political and they're losing ratings as a result. People just want to watch the game.
What the hell are you babbling about? The NFL didn't "support" Kaepernick, they just didn't punish him because he hadn't violated any specific bylaws in kneeling during the National Anthem. The only thing that probably shouldn't have been done is focusing on Colin during the anthem, kneeling or not. The uniform code has been enforced pretty consistently, and the Dallas Police incident was no exception. Could they have done an NFL-wide gesture instead? Sure. However, it doesn't make what they did left-leaning or even political. I'm no fan of the NFL (or ESPN because they've become the MTV of sports) and their haphazard management, but the examples you listed don't hold water.
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You might remember when they hired Limbaugh to be part of the pre-game show and he told the truth about Donovan McNabb and got fired for it.
In its early days ESPN showed a lot of NASCAR and other motorsports and used that audience and money to grow, grow to the point of casting of those sports that helped them get there.
Their audience is shrinking, certainly due in part to the Fox Sports Network and others. They get somewhere around $7.00 a subscriber plus advertising revenues.
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Kaepernik is a symptom of what is wrong with ESPN, not the illness.
They USED to have a lot of talent and creativity.
Now they rely on stunts and silly shows because they really ran off their best talent.
Now they are facing budget problems and like all poorly managed businesses , their cuts are going to make things worse, not better, because they focus in the wrong things, which got then I. Trouble to begin with.
Monday night football got so bad I stopped watching the day they got rid of Hank Junior. It was deteriorating for years but that was the last straw for every.
Pandering to the lefties is so typical of espn that a lot of folks stopped noticing but more and more people simply refuse to tune in.
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What I don't understand is why a sports-oriented media outlet would purposely alienate half their audience with a political agenda. They would have many more viewers if they stayed out of politics entirely. Pushing an agenda doesn't increase their audience of the same mindset and won't change the minds of those with a different mindset. It just doesn't make economic sense to lean one way or the other in what should be a fairly neutral subject.
Musicians and comedians do it all the time. It's taken the enjoyment out of going out for some entertainment.
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Musicians and comedians do it all the time. It's taken the enjoyment out of going out for some entertainment.
As far as I'm concerned comedians have destroyed their art with their constant left leaning blather. I don't watch them anymore. With a new comedy routine you can almost bet money it's going to bash Trump/Republicans/Conservatives and/or be heavily focused on feminism/racism etc. etc. I open a new Netflix comedian and hear this crap within the first few lines and I just shut it down, I'm not listening anymore. Even the TV trailers for late night acts like Samantha Bee and Conan usually have an anti-right cut in their 30 second ad. I'm sick of it. It's driving me away from TV in general.
It's creeping into movies and miniseries, even historical ones. Some female heroine in the supposed 1700's going around spouting feminist nonsense. You cannot have a black character without hyper focus on racism. The whole entertainment industry (except a few independent filmmakers) cannot tell a story without it being through a 2017 leftist lens.
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What the hell are you babbling about? The NFL didn't "support" Kaepernick, they just didn't punish him because he hadn't violated any specific bylaws in kneeling during the National Anthem. The only thing that probably shouldn't have been done is focusing on Colin during the anthem, kneeling or not. The uniform code has been enforced pretty consistently, and the Dallas Police incident was no exception. Could they have done an NFL-wide gesture instead? Sure. However, it doesn't make what they did left-leaning or even political. I'm no fan of the NFL (or ESPN because they've become the MTV of sports) and their haphazard management, but the examples you listed don't hold water.
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Fair enough with regards to the uniform standards, however perception is reality. ESPN and sports leagues in general tend to be left leaning and by injecting politics into their sports analysis and shows, they've alienated 50% of their audience from the start. Sports media made a big deal over the Kaepernick issue and NFL viewers responded by not watching.
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Beyond politics, I think that the "culture of me" has infested professional sports. Football and basketball used to be team sports. Now it's a bunch of individuals kind of working together. A guy getting paid millions of dollars a year does a "look at me" dance after making a tackle. Hey -- you're doing what you're being paid to do! Get on with the game. And how about those other 10 players that made what you did possible? And you -- why do you have to dangle from the basket after putting the ball through? Enough! Kaepernick is simply an extension of the look at me, I'm special mentality infesting pretty much everything and is making sports unwatchable. The commentators adding their political views makes it very much worse.
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As far as I'm concerned comedians have destroyed their art with their constant left leaning blather. I don't watch them anymore. With a new comedy routine you can almost bet money it's going to bash Trump/Republicans/Conservatives and/or be heavily focused on feminism/racism etc. etc. I open a new Netflix comedian and hear this crap within the first few lines and I just shut it down, I'm not listening anymore. Even the TV trailers for late night acts like Samantha Bee and Conan usually have an anti-right cut in their 30 second ad. I'm sick of it. It's driving me away from TV in general.
It's creeping into movies and miniseries, even historical ones. Some female heroine in the supposed 1700's going around spouting feminist nonsense. You cannot have a black character without hyper focus on racism. The whole entertainment industry (except a few independent filmmakers) cannot tell a story without it being through a 2017 leftist lens.
"John Quincy Adams, you are not my President!"
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Fair enough with regards to the uniform standards, however perception is reality. ESPN and sports leagues in general tend to be left leaning and by injecting politics into their sports analysis and shows, they've alienated 50% of their audience from the start. Sports media made a big deal over the Kaepernick issue and NFL viewers responded by not watching.
I can agree with that. Like I said, I don't like what ESPN has become. Commentators have to have something to say during every second of the broadcast. Statistics have been made for the most obtuse categorizations (QB XYZ has a .300 record when playing north of the 38th parallel after November 2nd). Doing PR pieces to show what a lineman does in his spare time, or the ESPYs. It's all just fluff to fill the airwaves.
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As far as I'm concerned comedians have destroyed their art with their constant left leaning blather.
My wife dragged me to see Dave Chappelle, it was abominable. Not funny, unless calling every man nigger, every woman a bitch, and left leaning/right bashing tickle your funny bone. I wasn't amused, but most in the house thought it great. *shrug*
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What I don't understand is why a sports-oriented media outlet would purposely alienate half their audience with a political agenda. They would have many more viewers if they stayed out of politics entirely. Pushing an agenda doesn't increase their audience of the same mindset and won't change the minds of those with a different mindset. It just doesn't make economic sense to lean one way or the other in what should be a fairly neutral subject.
I don't disagree with any of that, but I would take it one step further. I suspect it is more than half their audience being alienated. I'll admit this is a stereotype and generalization, and surely there are counter-examples, but on the main, I'd suspect the average NFL viewer is more likely to have been a Trump voter from "flyover country" than an urban effete sipping on their chardonnay during halftime who cried for Hillary on election night.
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My wife dragged me to see Dave Chappelle, it was abominable. Not funny, unless calling every man nigger, every woman a bitch, and left leaning/right bashing tickle your funny bone. I wasn't amused, but most in the house thought it great. *shrug*
I can watch very little mainstream TV, or movies these days. As Rush said, it is embedded with left wing bias, and everything becomes a push for racial, gender, gay/lesbian/transgender, economic, etc political discourse. Naturally, they push the left leaning side, with an occasional, token statement for the other viewpoint, but ultimately the liberal/progressive path is the obvious choice.
Hollywood, and much of the media, seems to be obsessed with politicizing everything to advance their agenda. It has become narcissistic, and not entertaining at all. Combine that with the blatant sexual vulgarity (I'm no prude btw) even on prime time shows, and it is unwatchable for me.
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My wife dragged me to see Dave Chappelle, it was abominable. Not funny, unless calling every man nigger, every woman a bitch, and left leaning/right bashing tickle your funny bone. I wasn't amused, but most in the house thought it great. *shrug*
Yep. Dave Chappelle was one of the Netflix shows I tried to watch. Couldn't make it past the first few minutes. I gave him a chance in the first place because he had said some sensible things when the recording of Trump's locker room talk came out. At least he sees some things realistically, but he still held his nose and voted for Hillary, according to this.
http://observer.com/2016/11/dave-chappelle-defends-trump-rips-clinton-shes-not-right-and-we-all-know-it/
I can't remember what turned me off to the show but I couldn't watch it. It may have been the N***** word. It offends me when whites use it to slur blacks but it also offends me when blacks use it all over the place in reference to themselves and then claim whites cannot do the same even in jest and friendship. It's a double standard and it's hypocritical.