PILOT SPIN
Pilot Zone => Accident Review/Never Again (I hope..) => Topic started by: Rush on March 18, 2023, 01:54:48 PM
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Wonder why the engine lost power?
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Good thing he was in a Bonanza.
I hope his Ruddervators are ok.
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Bent prop? Engine tear down? What do y’all think?
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Bent prop? Engine tear down? What do y’all think?
Toast. It now belongs to the insurance company.
Really hard landing (with gear extended???? WTF)
Severe wing damage.
Salt water immersion.
Apparently a very basic panel.
The Ruddervators may be the only salvageable part. Those, plus the potential cost of repair most likely add up to way more than the cost of replacement.
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Toast. It now belongs to the insurance company.
Really hard landing (with gear extended???? WTF)
Severe wing damage.
Salt water immersion.
Apparently a very basic panel.
The Ruddervators may be the only salvageable part. Those, plus the potential cost of repair most likely add up to way more than the cost of replacement.
Now I get your comment about the ruddervators, I forgot it ended up half in the water. Once again, pre-caffeinated. I should not be allowed to post until I’ve had at least two full mugs.
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Toast. It now belongs to the insurance company.
Really hard landing (with gear extended???? WTF)
Severe wing damage.
Salt water immersion.
Apparently a very basic panel.
The Ruddervators may be the only salvageable part. Those, plus the potential cost of repair most likely add up to way more than the cost of replacement.
That was a hard landing. Wow.
Joe, the T-34 apparently has a brass gear in the landing gear gearbox that costs something in the area of $40k if purchased from Textron. Does the Bonanza have that same thing?
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Add to it the cost of recovery and cleaning fuel / oil off every grain of sand (it's NY) and that gets very expensive very quickly.
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Wonder which wire he trapped?
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Wonder which wire he trapped?
Four.
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Got it down but he needed a bit more cowbell (flare). Shame, another one that’ll be totaled and parted out.
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Got it down but he needed a bit more cowbell (flare). Shame, another one that’ll be totaled and parted out.
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I think you nailed it. It’s been a long time but I’m trying to remember my soft field landing training, seem to recall, get as slow as possible before touchdown, flare and hold the nose up, up, up, up as long as possible. Is that right? Full flaps?
It does look like he kinda drove the nose straight in.
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I think you nailed it. It’s been a long time but I’m trying to remember my soft field landing training, seem to recall, get as slow as possible before touchdown, flare and hold the nose up, up, up, up as long as possible. Is that right? Full flaps?
It does look like he kinda drove the nose straight in.
Pretty much, with a variable amount of power to soften the landing. But in this case he may have been just trying to make a small landing area.
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Usually on a soft field you want to keep lots of engine power to keep the nose up, you ride the brakes to keep from rolling too fast. That said this isn't the first time I've seen an airplane nose down in the sand. It's far softer than most landing surfaces. Then again, anything happens in the air and the airplane belongs to the insurance company, my job is to get me and my pax on the ground in one undamaged piece. Looks like those guys did it very well indeed. Far easier to rebuild airplanes than people.
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Usually on a soft field you want to keep lots of engine power to keep the nose up, you ride the brakes to keep from rolling too fast. That said this isn't the first time I've seen an airplane nose down in the sand. It's far softer than most landing surfaces. Then again, anything happens in the air and the airplane belongs to the insurance company, my job is to get me and my pax on the ground in one undamaged piece. Looks like those guys did it very well indeed. Far easier to rebuild airplanes than people.
Uh, nope. You do NOT use brakes on a soft field landing, because you don’t want to get stuck in the soft field! In fact, in a normal soft field landing you keep engine power in to avoid getting stuck.
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Usually on a soft field you want to keep lots of engine power to keep the nose up, you ride the brakes to keep from rolling too fast. That said this isn't the first time I've seen an airplane nose down in the sand. It's far softer than most landing surfaces. Then again, anything happens in the air and the airplane belongs to the insurance company, my job is to get me and my pax on the ground in one undamaged piece. Looks like those guys did it very well indeed. Far easier to rebuild airplanes than people.
No, not lots of engine power to keep the nose up. Apply enough power as needed for a particular field you’re landing at. No braking is used either. One does keep the yoke in the nose high position to protect the nose gear.