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Only the correct political protests in school are allowed. All others not participating in the correct type of political protest get detention.

got it. 8)

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Spin Zone / Re: A Liberal's Concept of Free Speech
« on: March 16, 2018, 10:57:03 AM »
Stop: getting wrapped around the axle on arrest/no arrest.

Start: paying attention to equal treatment under the law.

We have a new thread here that a kid didn't want to go out and protest with his liberal goon admin, teachers and students. So what happens? He gets suspended for NOT following the prog lemmings.

jeealou, how can someone be so obtuse?

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Spin Zone / Hawking dead at 76.
« on: March 13, 2018, 09:14:16 PM »

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Spin Zone / Re: Bump stocks being banned
« on: March 13, 2018, 11:42:55 AM »
All this talk of compromise brings back fond memories of how the Dems pushed obamacare through the HR, senate, prez, SCOTUS. That-there was some real handshake, backslappin' give and take. I'll tell you, the nations law-makers really came together on that one, and reached across the aisle.  :o

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump meeting Kim mano-a-mano
« on: March 09, 2018, 11:00:51 AM »
I don't watch mad-cow but somehow I saw a blurb a few months ago with her ranting about Trump having his finger on the 'nuke button', and how Trump was gloating how is button was bigger than anyone else. She was all put-out that we might vanish in a cloud of radioactive dust because Trump was going to get us into a hot nuke exchange. Now - Trump agrees to sit down and de-escalate, and try to come to terms with a reduced nuclear threat to the US by negotiating, and she's spewing negativity again.

Trump can't win with the MSM. They are on a hate crusade WRT Trump and nothing will sway that. He could fund a cure for cancer and the left would complain about the cost and how long it took to get here. What a fem hygiene product, and the container it was wrapped in. Glad I don't have to listen to that cnut.

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Spin Zone / Re: N. Korea denuclearization talks!
« on: March 06, 2018, 10:01:54 AM »
The Norks will never in a billion years allow US state dept in to validate anything, specifically nuclear weapons controls. I seriously doubt they would let the south Koreans in either, but maybe a very limited guided and restricted 'tour' which is useless. The Norks will use this weakness as a means to some financial gains, without any capitulation in their actual nuke weapons processes. All smoke and mirrors. Don't fall for it.

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Spin Zone / Re: Who will be the next President?
« on: February 28, 2018, 08:35:17 AM »
Newsweak is reporting this;

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-approval-rating-just-passed-230047719.html

Rather startling I would say. Both that in spite of the lame stream media(like Newsweak), and the fact that it was reported in Newsweak - it would appear that the smear campaign against Trump is rapidly losing steam in the greater part of the nation.

I'm not one to gush on an opinion poll, but anything which doesn't describe Trump as a puppet, cheeto, nazi, bone spur, lunatic is all good. Maybe he's gaining steam in the nation just by Trump being Trump? Trump 2020 may just be a reality. It appears that crow may be on my menu sometime late next year.

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Spin Zone / Re: Who will be the next President?
« on: February 27, 2018, 03:19:14 PM »
Can't disagree with most of that. The other issue I think the left will face is more fundamental. The 'we hate Trump' platform is going to be worn to a thread by early 2020. If the economy keeps on, and we don't get our military asses in a nasty crack, hating Trump is going to be worn out shoe.

I'm not much worried about the GOP or RNC backing. By 2020, they are going to be balls-out Trump supporters(barring disaster). If the left gets their head out of their collective ass and finds a middle road lib, it could be interesting. This still presumes Trump is the nominee.

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Spin Zone / Re: Russians Indicted
« on: February 16, 2018, 11:03:04 PM »
This is textbook lib deflection. Look! Over there - bad russians!!! (ignore those lib FBI crooks, and my useless investigation)

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Spin Zone / Re: The America we live in today
« on: February 12, 2018, 08:01:09 AM »
Oh snap.

The whole country has gone judgmental. It's down to who can express there outrage faster and better.

Having said that, as someone who is moderately overweight, I am outraged that the caricature was made with large, round torso.


I'm going to have a pizza and a pie. No, not a slice of pizza pie, I mean I'm going to have 'The Works' large pizza, followed by a double chocolate deep dish pie.

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Spin Zone / Re: The Memo
« on: February 09, 2018, 09:06:07 AM »
"A govt powerful enough to give you everything you want, is powerful enough to take everything you have." Which is precisely why I so hate the civil forfeiture laws. If the govt thinks one has accumulated wealth and property illegally, then take them to court and prove it. Otherwise - you can't touch that. Another of the 'you didn't build that' problems with authority. Taking credit by govt for private gains out of all proportion to their actual help.

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Spin Zone / US military parade: Yea or nay?
« on: February 09, 2018, 07:39:37 AM »
I'm a veteran, respect the chain of command, and yet, I vote nay. We know we can crush any armed uprising, they know we can crush any armed uprising, we haven't 'won' any great battle or fought any great foe, so what's the point of a parade of military equipment and armed forces personnel?

Patriotism is fine, and if the US wants to have a parade, I'm ok with that, but not with a military theme. Something I would expect from a nation which is itching for a fight somewhere. Not the kind of stuff I want the US to portray.

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Spin Zone / Re: The Memo
« on: February 07, 2018, 12:43:49 PM »
I'm looking a relevance and deciding what pieces fit where in the chronology.

Otherwise, STOP SPENDING MY DAMN TAX MONEY ON FOOLISHNESS.

Alrighty, here's a primer. In early 2016, one or more of the republican 12 candidates started to develop opo research on Trump. When the candidate failed to gain any traction, it's likely(unprovable without a warrant) they gave that opo-research to the Clinton campaign in a fit of spite. The Clinton campaign in mid-2016 took the scraps of the Trump dossier and hired a political hack ex-MI6 guy to punch it up. Over the next few months, he and some soon discovered political operatives on the left(Cory, Sid, Podesta group) planted some gossipy lies among several truthful negative pieces, and wound it all up in the current Trump dossier. Clinton - being the ex-sec of state, took the product of their collective imagination to the DOJ and said - 'hey, look at this nefarious stuff we found on Trump. You should present this to the FISA court, and get a warrant to snoop on the,,, ahem - Russian who are meeting with Trump campaign operatives'. In mid/late 2016, the DOJ not wanting to get spattered with shit advised top people in the FBI to vet this info from Clinton in the dossier. The FBI obliged, and likely(but not provable) endorsed most of it, or was neutral on some, and positive on other parts of the missive. DOJ then advise FBI it could/should present to the FISA court for an expansive warrant to gather up intel on the Trump campaign. The FISA court, based on this dossier, and maybe some other supporting intel from the BO CIA/FBI watching over some minor Russian lawyer decided to buy-in and granted the warrant. Strangely, all this take from the warrant authorized spying on the Trump campaign in fall 2016 made it into the main-stream media. Hmmmmm, isn't that convenient. It also made it somehow to the Clinton campaign, which started bandying the "Russian collusion" angle.

FF after the election, and the dems are hanging on by a thread. They decide to go bold, as they have nothing else to do after losing the election and start leaking all this Russian, 25th amendment, unfit for office, conspiracy, obstruction stuff before and after the inauguration. Heads start to roll in 2017 spring, and now we are getting some of the background on where this made-up dossier came from, the players behind it(Cory, Sid, Podesta group), and how and why the take from the FISA warrant seems to be splattered all over the news constantly. We KNOW some of it was released by Comey(FBI), because he admitted it under oath. We know also that Clinton had, and forwarded to the DOJ because the DOJ lawyers won't talk about how they got it(but the DOJ sure is a sieve when it comes to leaking Trump gossip). We think, with decent amount of surety that Mueller investigation was based on part of the dossier, because it was the DOJ which started the special prosecutor process, and they didn't do that with anything from Russia, or Trump campaign. Where did the origin of the SP get it's info? FISA court? Where did they get their info? Trump dossier. Who had the Trump dossier prepared? Clinton, and DNC campaign.

I hope this helped. The Nunes memo, and the next one coming out basically lay out the some of the players. Although more of them are dribbling out. It is a concerted effort on the part of the Dems to use every disgusting, dirty trick(ala Watergate) to discredit Trump. Which would be ok, if there was any facts about the Russia deal. Mueller is sweeping up every tweet, statement, document, and gossip he can to justify his existence. Which is what SPs do, just as with Slick Willy.

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Spin Zone / Re: B.I.E. Terrorist or Politital Dissident?
« on: February 07, 2018, 11:47:16 AM »
If one goes back far enough, the origins of the 2nd amendment have nothing to do with arms, weapons or otherwise. The right to bear arms devolves from before the English revolution in landed aristocracy, and the owning of land by the serfs. Finding history on the English revolution would lead to some interesting themes on defending ones property, land, and self(family). Before that, going back to Roman times, there is also the similar theme of Pax Romana. In that, a 'citizen' of Rome didn't have to live in Rome, just had to be a citizen by birth or by owning, managing, and controlling property under Roman control. These land-holders were given the original authority from the senate to not only carry arms(sword), but more important to raise an army(private) and equip it. the reasoning was that some remote Roman strongholds could not be defended by the Roman army in all situations, but if one were to provide proper tribute, and maintain the arms for the gain of private property under Roman control, then the landed gent could go about his business.

Although the Roman authority did not recognize kings, or satraps as such, they did recognize something very similar in the Roman aristocracy, which would be governors, or magistrates. Under them would be tax farmers, and procurators(land holders). The most interesting of Romans is Sulla. I would have to define him as the first great democrat. He truly was a man of the people, and a study of his history would provide examples of why he was no friend of the aristocracy(although he was from an aristocratic family), by tossing plenty of politicians from the Tarpian cliff. A strong ally of private holdings, and personal property comes from being destitute as a young man.

These then were the beginnings of the natural right to bear arms. Private property, and the ability to defend it(not self defense per-se) was the origin. The US framers took the theory even further and expanded to insure that the power of the nation would never be usurped by a Sulla(or Hitler, Pol Pot, Hadrian, etc). The framers were furiously against any dictator, king, satrap, nobleman, etc. The best way to control this was a well armed militia.

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Spin Zone / Re: The Memo
« on: February 03, 2018, 09:08:16 PM »
Memo or not, here's my take.

If there is no FISA court, there is no mechanism for a general warrant to be issued. The problem is far deeper than the deep state, or a political party behaving as they are wont to do. The problem is that we have been led piece, by piece down a dangerous trail. Starting long before the PATRIOT act, but having that as the fulcrum we have destroyed our limitations on govt spying. The Brits took this same road circa 1400s-1650. The Bolsheviks, Stazi, and plenty of others have trod this path, and it is insidious.

No player, no partisan, and surely no man who's purpose is power can be trusted with those keys. Sadly, that's just what we've allowed to happen with the expansion of the powers of authority in the fedguv. The genie can't be put back in the bottle without serious changes taking place in the beltway. We thought that Trump was an agent of change - but I'm seeing him slide into the same swamp-gas as every other scum pol. Dreamers staying in the US is now on the table. No new restrictions on IRS. Out of control FBI. Resurgence of civil forfeiture. Plenty more, without even mention of the FISA black hole. And just recently, I guess Guantanamo is going back in business for foreigners to be held without trial, indefinitely. Just what small step is left for someone in the US to be grabbed up, taken away in the night, and never heard from again - while they rot in a foreign country, which is a US military base. Heck - as far as I know, it's already happened.

I'm pretty pissed about the whole thing, and the memo is simply another small manifestation of the entire horror story.

Have a nice day.

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