PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Rush on November 04, 2019, 08:49:50 AM
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-pregnant-woman-ar-15-burglary
I'd like to send this to Beto "Hell yes we're gonna take your AR-15s"
To Beto and gun control liberals: FUCK YOU. Disarming pregnant females. FUCK YOU.
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-pregnant-woman-ar-15-burglary
I'd like to send this to Beto "Hell yes we're gonna take your AR-15s"
To Beto and gun control liberals: FUCK YOU. Disarming pregnant females. FUCK YOU.
Well now, I don't know Rush. Disarming pregnant females just may be a good thing. ;)
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Well now, I don't know Rush. Disarming pregnant females just may be a good thing. ;)
No need. My husband discovered that the way to handle hormonal females is to throw chocolate into the room and shut the door fast.
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No need. My husband discovered that the way to handle hormonal females is to throw chocolate into the room and shut the door fast.
Smart man!
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Something I've always been interested in is the rate at which folks use firearms to ward off intruders vs. the rate is which folks shoot eater other with said firearms. The latter is easy, numbers are available from a number of sources and roughly agree. The former...the whole issue is so politicized that I truly cannot say even within an order of magnitude how often someone uses a firearm to ward off a malefactor.
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A local sore clerk has been charged with murder for shooting and killing a customer that was said to be stealing. Customer was said to be unarmed.
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Something I've always been interested in is the rate at which folks use firearms to ward off intruders vs. the rate is which folks shoot eater other with said firearms. The latter is easy, numbers are available from a number of sources and roughly agree. The former...the whole issue is so politicized that I truly cannot say even within an order of magnitude how often someone uses a firearm to ward off a malefactor.
Well, go ahead and see if you can find an estimate of the number of times a firearm is used for selfdefense that is lower than 117,000 times annually. Caution: some of the lower estimates that are out there don't include all uses (e.g., when no shots are fired).
Bottomline: people use firearms for selfdefense more often than use firearms to commit homicide.
You've been told this multiple times.
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Something I've always been interested in is the rate at which folks use firearms to ward off intruders vs. the rate is which folks shoot eater other with said firearms. The latter is easy, numbers are available from a number of sources and roughly agree. The former...the whole issue is so politicized that I truly cannot say even within an order of magnitude how often someone uses a firearm to ward off a malefactor.
One of the problems getting that data is that shootings that don’t happen don’t get reported and if they do, it does not make it into the news, and if it does, it doesn’t make it to MSM. This story for example I cannot find on cnn.com. Someone correct me if it’s there. That one was a shooting, but for every actual discharge in defense against crime, there are many cases where simple showing a gun, or simply having guns or allowing guns, prevents crime. It is very hard to put a formal number on that.
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One of the problems getting that data is that shootings that don’t happen don’t get reported and if they do, it does not make it into the news, and if it does, it doesn’t make it to MSM. This story for example I cannot find on cnn.com. Someone correct me if it’s there. That one was a shooting, but for every actual discharge in defense against crime, there are many cases where simple showing a gun, or simply having guns or allowing guns, prevents crime. It is very hard to put a formal number on that.
The NRA's magazine, "American Rifleman" publishes verified incidents of self defense with a firearm every month. There are usually ten or twelve stories each month with links to the local news media and/or police agency in which they get the information. But, yes as you say, it often does not get reported as the perps flee at the sight of a gun which is the best outcome for everyone. I personally know people that have had this happen.
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But, yes as you say, it often does not get reported as the perps flee at the sight of a gun which is the best outcome for everyone.
I'm not so sure that is the best outcome. I believe that those perps that ran off at the sight of the gun will just be more careful choosing their victim next time. I DON'T believe they will change their ways because a victim had a gun, unless that "victim" makes absolutely sure of it.
Dead criminals pose no threat. They reduce court costs and the cost of incarceration.
The fact that a friend of mine was recently accosted by a "known" street thug may be clouding my judgement at the moment though.
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.... That one was a shooting, but for every actual discharge in defense against crime, there are many cases where simple showing a gun, or simply having guns or allowing guns, prevents crime. It is very hard to put a formal number on that.
There is at least some empirical evidence that guns don't cause crimes and in fact can be a deterrent.
When England eliminated most firearms possessed by civilians, violent home invasions increased. Who could have anticipated that?
How many times does a "mass shooting" occur in a gun-free zone? For example, that shooting in a gun-free movie theater in Colordao was committed by a guy that drove past other theaters showing the same movie but weren't gun-free zones.
While the police do appreciate it when criminals are stupid (makes it easier to catch the bad guys), criminal are not complete idiots. Criminals tend to attack unarmed people.
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It happened to my brother. I've told the story here recently but in case you missed it, he was approached by three men in a parking lot who left their car running, got out of their car and began to flank him. The wind started blowing his jacket open and he brushed his arm back, keeping the jacket behind his holstered gun so it stayed visible. Upon seeing the gun, they stopped moving toward him, got back in their car and left.
Is there absolute proof these three men were about to commit a crime? No. But it is highly likely. My brother didn't report it because there was nothing to report.
Maybe they did go find another target. But my brother was safe, and that's all I care about. The individual has a right to have a gun for their own defense, period, end of story. I don't even care if the numbers prove more people are hurt by accidental discharges of their own guns. That doesn't justify taking MY gun from me. I can choose to risk being an idiot and shooting myself. It's my choice.
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... I don't even care if the numbers prove more people are hurt by accidental discharges of their own guns.
the numbers most definietly won't prove that.
Fatalities from accidental discharges (or, if you prefer, negligent discharges) are rare, something like 750 per year, maybe less.
Compare that to car accident fatalities...
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the numbers most definietly won't prove that.
Fatalities from accidental discharges (or, if you prefer, negligent discharges) are rare, something like 750 per year, maybe less.
Compare that to car accident fatalities...
Or drunk driving! Something like 10,000 per year. Totally preventable. Totally ignored.
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Or drunk driving! Something like 10,000 per year. Totally preventable. Totally ignored.
ah, but higher than GA fatalities (386 fatalities in 2016)
https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/data/Pages/AviationDataStats2016.aspx
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Or drunk driving! Something like 10,000 per year. Totally preventable. Totally ignored.
Drunk driving is a problem. I totally agree.
But totally preventable? I don't think so. Maybe on an individual level. ie, I can stop my own drunk driving completely. But laws will never stop everyone.
Totally ignored? Not at all. Drunk driving is very much frowned on by almost all, as opposed to a few decades ago when it was accepted. And the punishment is quite high. But maybe not high enough.
But I agree that efforts to stop drunk driving and speeding will have MUCH larger payoffs than requiring additional training for IFR pilots.
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But still less than Autoerotic Asphyxiation. Nearly 1,000 people a year die from autoerotic asphyxiation.
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But still less than Autoerotic Asphyxiation. Nearly 1,000 people a year die from autoerotic asphyxiation.
Now THERE is a justification for additional training. You really have to know when to knock it off when playing that game.
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Now THERE is a justification for additional training. You really have to know when to knock it off when playing that game.
Oh boy! Edgeplay! I think. I might not be up on all the proper slang anymore.
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Pulse Oximeter during sex. Problem solved.
For the life of me, I don't understand why people would want to do anything approaching that.
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Pulse Oximeter during sex. Problem solved.
For the life of me, I don't understand why people would want to do anything approaching that.
Agreed. I might have some mild kinks here and there but being deprived of O2 is NOT one of them. I will never understand that. Maybe watching two people die from it turned me off. Natural disease, not erotic asphyxiation, but the result is the same. It didn’t look like fun.
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Choot em.