PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 07, 2023, 06:38:23 AM
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https://news.yahoo.com/sirens-warning-incoming-rockets-sound-040207072.html?guccounter=1
JERUSALEM/GAZA (Reuters) -Palestinian Islamist group Hamas launched the biggest attack on Israel in years on Saturday, killing at least 40 people and wounding hundreds in a surprise assault that combined gunmen crossing into Israel with a barrage of rockets fired from Gaza.
Israel said the Iran-backed group had declared war as its army confirmed fighting with militants in several Israeli towns and military bases near Gaza, and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowed to retaliate.
"Our enemy will pay a price the type of which it has never known," he said. "We are in a war and we will win it."
Israel's ambulance service said at least 40 Israelis were killed and hundreds wounded in the Hamas attack but the total appeared likely to rise. A Reuters photographer saw multiple bodies lying in streets of the southern town of Sderot.
The Israeli military said it had responded with air strikes into Gaza, where witnesses reported hearing heavy explosions and multiple dead and wounded being carried into hospitals.
Palestinian health officials said dozens of people had been killed as bombardments hit deep into Gaza City, sending clouds of black smoke spiralling into the sky.
Hamas said the attack was driven by what it said were Israel's escalated attacks on Palestinians in the West Bank, Jerusalem and against Palestinians in Israeli prisons.
Hamas military commander Mohammad Deif announced the start of the operation in a broadcast on Hamas media, calling on Palestinians everywhere to fight.
"This is the day of the greatest battle to end the last occupation on earth," he said, adding that 5,000 rockets had been launched. Hamas advocates Israel's destruction.
Remember, that fool, Biden gave Iran $6B so Iran could fund Hamas.
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https://news.yahoo.com/sirens-warning-incoming-rockets-sound-040207072.html?guccounter=1Remember, that fool, Biden gave Iran $6B so Iran could fund Hamas.
And the FJB Regime knew exactly where this would go. They are beyond evil.
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Trump was right, again.
(http://www.pilotspin.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7247.0;attach=3771)
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1710629162698850427
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Do not forget the age of the illegals we've seen crossing the border of late. They are all young males coming across.
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Do not forget the age of the illegals we've seen crossing the border of late. They are all young males coming across.
With terrorists, cartel types and criminals in general.
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When people start calling the pedophile biden a TRAITOR, there might be enough anger in decent Americans to force the useless clown car government to act.
That fuckbag hilary clinton thinks we should all be forced into mental hospitals to be 'cured' of supporting President Trump. I think hilary should be prison awaiting sentencing for treason, alongside joe biden, nancy pelosi, chuck schumer and mitch mcconnell.
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Do not forget the age of the illegals we've seen crossing the border of late. They are all young males coming across.
Yep. And our government does nothing.
Victor Davis Hanson has stated the next 12 to 18 months will be the most explosive time in our history. We have an entire Army (not ours) already in place inside our borders. Sleeper cells everywhere. The FJB Regime gifted the Taliban with $80billion in weapons and ammunition, and much of it has found it's way onto the black market.
The democrat communist are losing control, and the desperation is setting in. Desperate people do really stupid shit.
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Yep. And our government does nothing.
Victor Davis Hanson has stated the next 12 to 18 months will be the most explosive time in our history. We have an entire Army (not ours) already in place inside our borders. Sleeper cells everywhere. The FJB Regime gifted the Taliban with $80billion in weapons and ammunition, and much of it has found it's way onto the black market.
The democrat communist are losing control, and the desperation is setting in. Desperate people do really stupid shit.
They are doing nothing on purpose. They want it to happen to create their new world order. Their is a very good chance WW3 started today in Israel. And Biden funded and equipped the bad guys.
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And the FJB Regime knew exactly where this would go. They are beyond evil.
Yep. And the equipment left in Afghanistan. It was all planned.
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https://thepostmillennial.com/bidens-office-of-palestinian-affairs-urges-israel-not-to-defend-itself-against-hamas-attack-then-deletes-post?cfp
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The pedophile traitor singing the song of cowardly, traitors everywhere...
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They are doing nothing on purpose. They want it to happen to create their new world order. Their is a very good chance WW3 started today in Israel. And Biden funded and equipped the bad guys.
Martial law and gun confiscation would be next. Only of the law abiding gun owners of course.
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I’m going to Israel in February. This will be interesting.
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I’m going to Israel in February. This will be interesting.
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My prayers are not only for Israel but also for Hamas. May they and those who support them be erased from this earth by God’s righteous anger.
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My prayers are not only for Israel but also for Hamas. May they and those who support them be erased from this earth by God’s righteous anger.
They'll probably stop this shit when they run out of that $6Billion.
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https://twitter.com/VDHanson/status/1710741034320417027
A 50th Anniversary War?
Why did Hamas stage a long-planned, carefully executed and multifaceted attack on Israeli towns, soldiers, and civilians—one designed to instill terror by executing noncombatants, taking hostages, and desecrating the bodies of the dead?
And how were the killers able to enter Israeli proper in enough numbers to kill what could be hundreds and perhaps eventually wound what could be thousands?
a) Ostensibly, radical Palestinians wanted to stop any rumored rapprochement between the Gulf monarchies—the traditional source of much of their cash—and Israel, by forcing the issue of Arab solidarity in times of “war”, especially through waging a gruesome attack aimed at civilians and encompassing executions and hostage taking. Iran likely was the driving force to prompt the war—given its greatest fear is a Sunni Arab-Israeli rapprochement.
b) Arab forces have had only success against Israel through surprise attacks during Israeli holidays, as in the Yom Kippur War (i.e., was it any accident that the present attack began 50-years almost to the day after the October 6, 1973 beginning of the Yom Kippur War?). And so they struck again this Saturday during Simchat Torah, coming at the end of a weeklong Jewish celebration of Sukkot—in hopes that others will join in as happened in 1973. (So much for the Arab warnings not for Westerners to conduct war during Ramadan).
c) Hamas may have reckoned that recent Israeli turmoil and mass leftist street protests over proposed reforms of the Israeli Supreme Court had led to permanent internal divisions and thus a climate of domestic distraction if not an erosion of deterrence.
But, more importantly, in a larger sense the Biden administration has contributed both to the notion that Hamas was a legitimate Middle East player, and to the perception that the U.S. was backing away from its traditional support for Israel—to the delight of Hamas—based on the following inexplicable policies:
1) In February Secretary of State Blinken had bragged that not only had the Biden administration resumed massive aid to the PLA cancelled by Trump, but cumulatively had transferred $1 billion—even as Palestinian authorities bragged that they would continue to pay bounties to the families of “martyrs” (i.e., those killed while conducting terrorists attacks against Israel).
And millions of American dollars also went into Gaza, run by Hamas—despite the Biden administration’s efforts to keep mostly quiet the resumption of such inexplicable support. In this regard, note the current shameful State-Department (“U.S. Office of Palestinian Affairs”) website news release that was posted after today’s attack. It ended with this quite embarrassing, morally equivalent admonition:
“We urged all sides to refrain from violence and retaliatory attacks. Terror and violence solve nothing.”
"All sides?" "Refrain from retaliatory attacks?”
So Israel is the moral equivalent of terrorists executing civilians and brutalizing their corpses? And the IDF then is not supposed to retaliate against these killers?
This Biden State Department insanity cannot stand. So expect some apparatchik to take down this Munich-like posting as soon as possible.
2) The Biden administration had recently released some $6 billion to Iran through a prison swap deal that saw South Korea hand over embargoed Iranian money to Qatar—despite Tehran’s increased anti-Israeli rhetoric and its loud brag about the escalation. We should assume money for rockets (Hamas claims they have launched 5,000, and have received 100,000 of them via the Damascus airport) and weapons in general for Hamas were supplied by Iran, which again is likely the chief catalyst for this surprise attack.
3) Almost immediately, after his inauguration Biden mobilized to resume the bankrupt Iran deal. And in unhinged fashion he appointed the anti-Israeli bigot, pro-Iranian journalist Robert Malley as America’s chief negotiator. Note that Malley is now under FBI investigation for security breaches, involving disclosing classified U.S. documents and also for allegedly helping pro-Iranian activists and propagandists land influential billets inside the U.S. government.
In short, there was a general Hamas and Iranian perception that the Biden administration had resumed the discredited Obama madness of empowering Iran, Hezbollah, and Hamas. This discredited agenda was to “balance” the power of Israel and the moderate Arab Gulf governments to achieve “creative tension”, exacerbated by Biden’s loathing of the government of Benjamín Netanyahu (who has been snubbed by Biden and never invited for an official visit).
Note as well that the Biden administration has siphoned off key weapons and munitions from stockpiles inside Israel to transfer them to Ukraine. The so-called “War Reserve Ammunition—Israel" is all but depleted of just the sorts of weapons needed in the present crisis.
In this regard is there not a pattern here?
Upon the ascension of Biden and his woke military agendas, we saw the following: the complete humiliation of the U.S. in Kabul in its most shameful flight in 50 years and greatest abandonment of equipment in its history; followed by Vladimir Putin’s opportunistic invasion of Ukraine; followed by China’s new belligerence and escalating threats to Taiwan; followed by Turkey’s new de facto alliance with Russia and recent drone encounter with the U.S. air force in Syria; followed by the Hamas/Iranian inspired attack on Israel—with more to come unfortunately.
And will Biden finally get the message from the attacks on the Ukraine and Israeli borders, that borders matter and we too are being invaded, with the encouragement of the Mexican government and to the advantage of the cartels whose fentanyl exports kills 100,000 Americans a year?
What to expect in Israel?
Expect the following: the usual Hamas/terrorist selling and/or execution of Israeli hostages, the use of Israeli hostages as “human shields” in Gaza, the bargaining/sale of the remains of Israeli dead, occasional killings of Jews inside Israel by Arabs who falsely believe there will be a winning Middle East-wide existential war against Israel. And finally, a devastating Israeli counter-response that will eventually earn a U.S. rebuke.
What should the U.S. instead do?
It should quit talking to Iran and restore full sanctions against it. It should cut off all aid immediately to all the Palestinians. It should undertake a 1973-like massive arms lift of key munitions to Israel and warn Iran, Syria, Hezbollah and others in the Middle East not to intervene or else, given that Israel will need several weeks to deal with Hamas and Gaza. And if it shows any hesitation or weakness, other terrorist groups will opportunistically jump in.
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I have a FB friend that says the $6B is being held in a bank in Qatar and has not made it to Iran. Anyone know the actual facts?
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyHYXBfRQlQ/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D
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I’m going to Israel in February. This will be interesting.
I hope what's going on there won't last until February. Israel declared war on Hamas today. I would NOT want to be on the other end of a bunch of pissed off Israelis. When they want to do something, they do it and fuck the rest of the world.
Meanwhile FJB will write a sternly worded email to Hamas warning them that we might eventually think of maybe perhaps saying something mean about them.
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Dictator Zelensky must be pissed right now. This is going to cut into his money train.
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Dictator Zelensky must be pissed right now. This is going to cut into his money train.
ZDS.
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ZDS.
DLS
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https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25?st=czoauzwctgjsz5p&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink (https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25?st=czoauzwctgjsz5p&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink)
Iran Helped Plot Attack on Israel Over Several Weeks
The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps gave the final go-ahead last Monday in Beirut
DUBAI—Iranian security officials helped plan Hamas’s Saturday surprise attack on Israel and gave the green light for the assault at a meeting in Beirut last Monday, according to senior members of Hamas and Hezbollah, another Iran-backed militant group.
Officers of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps had worked with Hamas since August to devise the air, land and sea incursions—the most significant breach of Israel’s borders since the 1973 Yom Kippur War—those people said.
Details of the operation were refined during several meetings in Beirut attended by IRGC officers and representatives of four Iran-backed militant groups, including Hamas, which holds power in Gaza, and Hezbollah, a Shiite militant group and political faction in Lebanon, they said.
U.S. officials say they haven’t seen evidence of Tehran’s involvement. In an interview with CNN that aired Sunday, Secretary of State Antony Blinken said: “We have not yet seen evidence that Iran directed or was behind this particular attack, but there is certainly a long relationship.”
“We don’t have any information at this time to corroborate this account,” said a U.S. official of the meetings.
A European official and an adviser to the Syrian government, however, gave the same account of Iran’s involvement in the lead-up to the attack as the senior Hamas and Hezbollah members.
Asked about the meetings, Mahmoud Mirdawi, a senior Hamas official, said the group planned the attacks on its own. “This is a Palestinian and Hamas decision,” he said.
The Iranian delegation at the United Nations in New York didn’t respond to a request for comment. Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, has praised the attacks, saying in a post on X, formerly known as Twitter, that the “Zionist regime will be eradicated at the hands of the Palestinian people and the Resistance forces throughout the region.”
A direct Iranian role would take Tehran’s long-running conflict with Israel out of the shadows, raising the risk of broader conflict in the Middle East. Senior Israeli security officials have pledged to strike at Iran’s leadership if Tehran is found responsible for killing Israelis.
The IRGC’s broader plan is to create a multi-front threat that can strangle Israel from all sides—Hezbollah and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine in the north and Palestinian Islamic Jihad and Hamas in Gaza and the West Bank, according to the senior Hamas and Hezbollah members and an Iranian official.
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See article for further details.
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The moronic dyke will be at her podium telling everyone nothing but lies about this report, because lying is all she does.
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Uh, sorry. Which moronic dyke? There are so many to choose from.
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Uh, sorry. Which moronic dyke? There are so many to choose from.
Exactly. Could be Hillary, Michelle O, but she's a Tranny, Biden's mouthpiece liar dyke.....
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I’m going to Israel in February. This will be interesting.
I was on a long weekend this weekend up near the Apostle Islands in Lake Superior so I’ve been out of touch and am just catching up.
Yea, fuck this. I’m canceling our Israel trip. My wife has really been getting into the scriptures, and she really wanted to walk where Jesus walked. Our church has a trip scheduled. We paid our deposits 2 months ago, and the first meeting is on Wednesday.
This is horrific, and I sense it’s going to get much, much worse.
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https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1710759811720311107?t=VgOnttN-9zDy0hWonKaNaQ&s=07
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This is horrific, and I sense it’s going to get much, much worse.
That's an understatement.
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I was on a long weekend this weekend up near the Apostle Islands in Lake Superior so I’ve been out of touch and am just catching up.
Yea, fuck this. I’m canceling our Israel trip. My wife has really been getting into the scriptures, and she really wanted to walk where Jesus walked. Our church has a trip scheduled. We paid our deposits 2 months ago, and the first meeting is on Wednesday.
This is horrific, and I sense it’s going to get much, much worse.
I sense the same thing.
I’d cancel too, I think you’re doing the right thing. I’m sorry your wife won’t get to walk where Jesus walked. I have a feeling this isn’t going to end any time soon.
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I sense the same thing.
I’d cancel too, I think you’re doing the right thing. I’m sorry your wife won’t get to walk where Jesus walked. I have a feeling this isn’t going to end any time soon.
We have the wrong people running the government. Total incompetent fools.
This will escalate.
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We have the wrong people running the government. Total incompetent fools.
This will escalate.
None of this would be happening if Trump were in office.
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None of this would be happening if Trump were in office.
Elections have consequences. Stolen elections have dire consequences.
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We have the wrong people running the government. Total incompetent fools.
This will escalate.
US military to move a carrier strike group in support of Israel (https://www.defensenews.com/news/pentagon-congress/2023/10/08/us-military-to-move-a-carrier-strike-group-in-support-of-israel/)
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Uh, sorry. Which moronic dyke? There are so many to choose from.
The spokes dyke for the senile imposter.
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They have been fighting over there for millennia.
I always say - if you want to go over there to fight personally because you think one side or the other is so righteous, go ahead. If you want to give money to one side or the other, go ahead.
But don’t forcibly take money from me to pay for it. And don’t enslave my children to fight for the side you favor.
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None of this would be happening if Trump were in office.
Bingo. The Russians, China, Iran, terror groups FEARED US. They know we are a Woke Joke now. Not a rudderless ship but one with the rudder turned hard to Port and purposely towards Skull Island.
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US military to move a carrier strike group in support of Israel (https://www.defensenews.com/news/pentagon-congress/2023/10/08/us-military-to-move-a-carrier-strike-group-in-support-of-israel/)
This is how shit starts. Ukraine, now this and the countless wars in Africa we don't hear about.
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I'm sure the FBI will now turn their attention toward potential terror suspects that crossed the border.
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This is how shit starts. Ukraine, now this and the countless wars in Africa we don't hear about.
You may be right. I hope not but the US government does not have a good history of staying out of other people’s wars.
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You may be right. I hope not but the US government does not have a good history of staying out of other people’s wars.
According to the WSJ:
"Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said this morning that the Pentagon would "work to ensure that Israel has what it needs to defend itself.
Israel, a major non-NATO ally, is the largest cumulative recipient of overall U.S. aid since World War II, including billions for missile defense and purchases of U.S. military equipment. Over the past few years, the U.S. has sold Israel heavy-lift helicopters, aerial-refueling tankers, naval guns and much more. Israel was the first foreign country to fly the advanced F-35 jet fighter."
It seems unlikely that a Trump (or most post-WWII) administration would have responded any differently:
100 times President Trump supported Israel (https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/100-times-president-trump-supported-israel/)
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This is how shit starts. Ukraine, now this and the countless wars in Africa we don't hear about.
Did I hear someone mention China/Taiwan?
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They have been fighting over there for millennia.
I always say - if you want to go over there to fight personally because you think one side or the other is so righteous, go ahead. If you want to give money to one side or the other, go ahead.
But don’t forcibly take money from me to pay for it. And don’t enslave my children to fight for the side you favor.
The best thing we could do to limit the violence over there is to stop spending Trillions on Middle East Oil. If we have to continue using fossil fuels, then spend the money we give to Israel on exploiting our own resources while we build up our Nuclear, solar and wind resources.
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The best thing we could do to limit the violence over there is to stop spending Trillions on Middle East Oil. If we have to continue using fossil fuels, then spend the money we give to Israel on exploiting our own resources while we build up our Nuclear, solar and wind resources.
I like the part about exploiting our own fossil resources. It’s too late for nuclear, (way too long start up time) and solar and wind are not there yet. We need energy agility. That means get up and running quickly and can quickly respond to load demands. Only fossil gives us that. And forget anything but oil for transportation. We are heading for extremely bad times: war, domestic economic collapse, likely more 9/11 style attacks, not from the air but from suitcase nukes or raids from sleeper cells already here. If you think the pandemic supply chain failure was bad wait til port cities are bombed by Islamic extremists. We are very badly prepared for what’s coming. I hope I’m wrong.
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I’m sitting on a cruise ship in Cyprus right now.
Was supposed to be day two of three in Israel, obviously the cruise line has been scrambling to make changes.
They have now cancelled Egypt as well. According to the captain an Israeli tourist was shot by an Egyptian cop. Haven’t found anything in the next about that, but haven’t look too hard.
Really sad to be missing both countries, but that is nothing compared to the Israeli’s Had to cancel our tours, and the responses from the tour guides was heart breaking….
-Dan
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I’m sitting on a cruise ship in Cyprus right now.
Was supposed to be day two of three in Israel, obviously the cruise line has been scrambling to make changes.
They have now cancelled Egypt as well. According to the captain an Israeli tourist was shot by an Egyptian cop. Haven’t found anything in the next about that, but haven’t look too hard.
Really sad to be missing both countries, but that is nothing compared to the Israeli’s Had to cancel our tours, and the responses from the tour guides was heart breaking….
-Dan
I saw something about that incident in Egypt. Sounds like the Captain and cruise line are making good decisions. Stay safe.
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According to the WSJ:
"Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said this morning that the Pentagon would "work to ensure that Israel has what it needs to defend itself.
Israel, a major non-NATO ally, is the largest cumulative recipient of overall U.S. aid since World War II, including billions for missile defense and purchases of U.S. military equipment. Over the past few years, the U.S. has sold Israel heavy-lift helicopters, aerial-refueling tankers, naval guns and much more. Israel was the first foreign country to fly the advanced F-35 jet fighter."
It seems unlikely that a Trump (or most post-WWII) administration would have responded any differently:
100 times President Trump supported Israel (https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/100-times-president-trump-supported-israel/)
I think, the point is, would Trump have let it get to this point?
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I like the part about exploiting our own fossil resources. It’s too late for nuclear, (way too long start up time) and solar and wind are not there yet. We need energy agility. That means get up and running quickly and can quickly respond to load demands. Only fossil gives us that. And forget anything but oil for transportation. We are heading for extremely bad times: war, domestic economic collapse, likely more 9/11 style attacks, not from the air but from suitcase nukes or raids from sleeper cells already here. If you think the pandemic supply chain failure was bad wait til port cities are bombed by Islamic extremists. We are very badly prepared for what’s coming. I hope I’m wrong.
Maybe Biden could suspend the laws relating to building nuclear plants and we could get'r done. We once were a country that could make things happen in record time.
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Sorry your cruise got spoiled Dan.
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They have been fighting over there for millennia.
I always say - if you want to go over there to fight personally because you think one side or the other is so righteous, go ahead. If you want to give money to one side or the other, go ahead.
But don’t forcibly take money from me to pay for it. And don’t enslave my children to fight for the side you favor.
BULLSHIT.
Liberals only hate wars when they benefit the US. The rest of the time you fucking low information twits have to jump into any possible opportunity bomb someone and make sure your favored politicians collect bribes.
When it comes to Israel, they are our ONLY friend in the middle east, which is why asshole liberals and traitors like obama/biden hate them so much.
Israel is also where we park the sixth fleet giving us a base near enough to matter when shit like this happens, but, asshole liberals (there I go repeating myself) wouldn't understand that, would you?
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Sorry your cruise got spoiled Dan.
Thanks, we are obviously disappointed, but absolutely nothing compared to the Israelis. Feels way more personal being this close. Plus I’ve been talking with our guides for several months getting things setup. We feel like we have friends that are involved. Quote from one of our guides, after we cancelled and told him we would be praying for him and Israel. Got to admire the determination:
“It is what is is
We are counting casualties
No much options. Harsh Times.
The next few days Hell will be largely provided.”
-Dan
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I like the part about exploiting our own fossil resources. It’s too late for nuclear, (way too long start up time) and solar and wind are not there yet.
You just agreed to disagree with what you just agreed with. :o
It is not too late for nuclear. It won't happen soon, but it will never happen if we don't start. And remember the part about exploiting our own fossil fuels while we develop those alternatives, like nuclear. I keep hearing we have hundreds of years worth of fossil fuels right here in the USA. Surely you don't think it will take us hundreds of years to develop nuclear.
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BULLSHIT.
Liberals only hate wars when they benefit the US. The rest of the time you fucking low information twits have to jump into any possible opportunity bomb someone and make sure your favored politicians collect bribes.
When it comes to Israel, they are our ONLY friend in the middle east, which is why asshole liberals and traitors like obama/biden hate them so much.
Israel is also where we park the sixth fleet giving us a base near enough to matter when shit like this happens, but, asshole liberals (there I go repeating myself) wouldn't understand that, would you?
I don’t think Peter is a liberal, or at least not today’s leftist Democrat “liberal” which is actually a fascistcommunistauthoritarian. But you make a great point about Israel being a vitally important ally in the area. My problem is if we get directly involved in this war with the current questionable state of our woke military and historically weak leadership while also becoming more entangled in Ukraine, with China watching and getting ready to initiate something against Taiwan, do we still have the might to back up a military defense of Israel? Not to mention the crisis on our own border and looming fiscal bankruptcy. Are we getting ready to spread ourselves too thin?
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The best thing we could do to limit the violence over there is to stop spending Trillions on Middle East Oil. If we have to continue using fossil fuels, then spend the money we give to Israel on exploiting our own resources while we build up our Nuclear, solar and wind resources.
You’re kidding, right?
If the Palestinians were universally disarmed, there might be peace.
If Israel was disarmed, there WILL be genocide.
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You just agreed to disagree with what you just agreed with. :o
It is not too late for nuclear. It won't happen soon, but it will never happen if we don't start. And remember the part about exploiting our own fossil fuels while we develop those alternatives, like nuclear. I keep hearing we have hundreds of years worth of fossil fuels right here in the USA. Surely you don't think it will take us hundreds of years to develop nuclear.
I’m talking about a 20 to 30 year lead time from conception to startup and coming online. You have to jump through all kinds of regulatory hoops, get a federal license, choose a site, purchase land, deal with protests from environmentalists and NIMBYists, and once you get past that, the design, bid and construction process is slowed and obstructed every step of the way by bureaucrats. The reason we don’t have more nuke plants than we do is because it’s not worth the capital investment re: the costs associated with all that unnecessary crap.
We don’t have multiple decades to get new nuke plants up and running. The crisis is here now.
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I’m talking about a 20 to 30 year lead time from conception to startup and coming online. You have to jump through all kinds of regulatory hoops, get a federal license, choose a site, purchase land, deal with protests from environmentalists and NIMBYists, and once you get past that, the design, bid and construction process is slowed and obstructed every step of the way by bureaucrats. The reason we don’t have more nuke plants than we do is because it’s not worth the capital investment re: the costs associated with all that unnecessary crap.
We don’t have multiple decades to get new nuke plants up and running. The crisis is here now.
So what are you saying? Should we just give up on nuclear?
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You’re kidding, right?
If the Palestinians were universally disarmed, there might be peace.
If Israel was disarmed, there WILL be genocide.
Ok, maybe taking the money away from Israel is not the right thing to do. But if we do choke off the Arab oil pipelines, AND THEIR REVENUE, then as time goes on, Israel will not need our huge defense support. They are actually quite capable without us as it is.
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Ok, maybe taking the money away from Israel is not the right thing to do. But if we do choke off the Arab oil pipelines, AND THEIR REVENUE, then as time goes on, Israel will not need our huge defense support. They are actually quite capable without us as it is.
Not to totally disagree but I suspect their ability to take care of things themselves was because we were (not are because obama/biden are traitors) always standing in the back holding a big stick and shaking our military head.
The traitors obama and biden hate Israel and their antipathy empowers America's enemies to attack our strategic partners and weaken our national defense. democrat communists like the traitors obama and biden love the idea of weakening us by empowering china and islam, but their ignorance and treason always ends up costing American lives as it did this weekend.
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So what are you saying? Should we just give up on nuclear?
No!!! We need to ramp up nuclear but we obstruct it with government interference. Government needs to overhaul its regulatory grip on it and just let the marketplace do its thing but good luck with that.
In the meantime we need to open up fossil fuel again. Quit with the war against coal and oil. Stop shutting down coal plants. Increase the use of natural gas. Opening up our own fossil industry will bring prices back down and we need to resupply the strategic oil reserves. Depleting that is one of more egregious things that old man did. All of that can be done in a year or two if we get DJT back in the White House. God, we desperately need him.
And our grid needs to be secured much better, it's too vulnerable.
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And our grid needs to be secured much better, it's too vulnerable.
And it'll be much more secure once everyone is using electricity from the grid for everything.
(who thinks the above shouldn't be in green font?)
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It is not too late for nuclear. It won't happen soon, but it will never happen if we don't start.
Yes. It's never too late to start doing the right thing.
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We have a nuclear power plant about 30 minutes west of me. We don't get our power from them. And they don't supply any local communities power. It's a joke.
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No!!! We need to ramp up nuclear but we obstruct it with government interference. Government needs to overhaul its regulatory grip on it and just let the marketplace do its thing but good luck with that.
In the meantime we need to open up fossil fuel again. Quit with the war against coal and oil. Stop shutting down coal plants. Increase the use of natural gas. Opening up our own fossil industry will bring prices back down and we need to resupply the strategic oil reserves. Depleting that is one of more egregious things that old man did. All of that can be done in a year or two if we get DJT back in the White House. God, we desperately need him.
And our grid needs to be secured much better, it's too vulnerable.
It seems like you are agreeing with everything I said, yet it sounded like you were arguing with me.
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It seems like you are agreeing with everything I said, yet it sounded like you were arguing with me.
That sounds like something my husband would say. Do I come across as grouchy? ;D
It seems we’re confused. Here’s your original statement:
The best thing we could do to limit the violence over there is to stop spending Trillions on Middle East Oil. If we have to continue using fossil fuels, then spend the money we give to Israel on exploiting our own resources while we build up our Nuclear, solar and wind resources.
Let me parse it out:
“The best thing we could do to limit the violence over there is to stop spending Trillions on Middle East Oil.”
Agree! Well, I don’t know if it will limit the violence, but we don’t need to be buying oil from the Mideast when we have plenty underfoot here.
“If we have to continue using fossil fuels, then spend the money we give to Israel on exploiting our own resources”
Agree! About exploiting our own resources. But the government doesn’t need to spend money doing that, they just need to get the hell out of the way. All they have to do is loosen regulations and investors will provide the money. Whether we give money to Israel as military aid is an unrelated matter. I don’t believe we buy oil from them. We buy from Canada mostly. Mexico is a distant second and Saudi Arabia an even more distant third.
“while we build up our Nuclear”
Agree we should however it won’t happen fast enough to meet what is going to be urgent need pretty soon.
“solar and wind resources.”
Pffft. They are not ready for prime time, if they ever will be. They have to be subsidized and hence cannot survive in a free market economy, at least at their present state of development. Something forced into the economy like that is a drain on taxpayers at a time we are already overburdened. And that’s just electric power. We need diesel. It’s the foundation of the entire economy. Ships, trains, trucks and heavy equipment for construction and farming. And no, these things will not become battery powered, in our lifetime, if ever.
Does that clear everything up?
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You must watch today’s Ben Shapiro show on The Daily Wire. Even if you aren’t a subscriber (I am) you should be able to see this. He is showing unaltered videos of what is happening in Israel, mostly from Hamas’ own videos. He wants Americans to see exactly what evil looks like. It will turn your stomach. But you must see it.
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Why we need a 2nd amendment,
and 30 round clips.
https://twitter.com/CovfefeKatie/status/1711107398428225754
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Does that clear everything up?
Yes, thank you.
The relevant point of yours that I missed was that we don't need to spend Federal dollars to exploit our own natural resources.
But the best way to allow private industry to invest in exploration is to reduce their burden on doing so. This includes reducing or eliminating burdensome regulations and excess taxation. Liberals consider tax deductions as government expenditures. I consider them (tax deductions) allowing people to keep their own money and figure out the best way to spend it.
And I don't see much real progress happening with nuclear without Federal support, again with reduced regulations and tax incentives, not to mention basic research (which would be justified as a national security concern).
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Yes, thank you.
The relevant point of yours that I missed was that we don't need to spend Federal dollars to exploit our own natural resources.
But the best way to allow private industry to invest in exploration is to reduce their burden on doing so. This includes reducing or eliminating burdensome regulations and excess taxation. Liberals consider tax deductions as government expenditures. I consider them (tax deductions) allowing people to keep their own money and figure out the best way to spend it.
And I don't see much real progress happening with nuclear without Federal support, again with reduced regulations and tax incentives, not to mention basic research (which would be justified as a national security concern).
Exactly times three.
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1711749131709071496
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1711572486834540807
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https://twitter.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1711411914629079463
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https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/10/10/cnns-tapper-last-few-days-really-eye-opening-to-antisemitism-on-the-left/
CNN’s Tapper: Last Few Days Really Eye-Opening to ‘Antisemitism on the Left’
CNN anchor Jake Tapper said Tuesday on his show “The Lead” that after the Hamas terror attacks in Israel, the last few days have been a real eye-opening period “in terms of antisemitism on the left.”
Tapper said, “So you have a Democratic colleague from Michigan, Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib, the first Palestinian American to serve in Congress, and she released a statement. ‘I grieve the Palestinian and Israeli lives lost. The path to peace must include lifting the blockade and, ending the occupation and dismantling the apartheid system that creates the suffocating, dehumanizing conditions that could lead to resistance. As longs our country provides billions in unconditional funding to support the apartheid government, this heartbreaking cycle of violence will continue.’ What was your reaction when you heard Congresswoman Tlaib’s statement?”
Rep. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI) said, “To me, I think the hardest part, not just about that statement but a number of statements that have come out from organizations and individuals, I don’t question whether someone has the right to be angry at the Israeli government, I question their inability to condemn grievous, grievous violence and that is what has been difficult.”
Tapper said, “There does seem to be, look, we spent a lot of time during the Trump years looking at antisemitism on the right. This does. These last few days have been a real eye-opening period for a lot of people, a lot of Democrats and a lot progressives in terms of antisemitism on the left. A lot of people who seemed more shocks at dehumanizing language to describe Hamas than what Hamas actually perpetrated on Saturday.”
Slotkin said, “Yeah, I mean, look, antisemitism should be stamped out wherever it is on the right, or on the left.”
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https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/10/10/cnns-tapper-last-few-days-really-eye-opening-to-antisemitism-on-the-left/
CNN’s Tapper: Last Few Days Really Eye-Opening to ‘Antisemitism on the Left’
Yep. Astounding, isn’t it. Yet one more way the left has become all that they claim to hate. Like literal Nazis.
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https://x.com/VDHanson/status/1711878944683958319?s=20v
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Yep. Astounding, isn’t it. Yet one more way the left has become all that they claim to hate. Like literal Nazis.
Exactly. They projected themselves right into what they said they hated. They've become the new Nazi party and the Republicans are their bitches.
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Yep. Astounding, isn’t it. Yet one more way the left has become all that they claim to hate. Like literal Nazis.
How does the left justify their belief in "equal rights" for women, LGBTQR and all others while supporting Arabs over Israel.
How do they think Arabs treat their women and gays and (shudder) trannys?
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How does the left justify their belief in "equal rights" for women, LGBTQR and all others while supporting Arabs over Israel.
How do they think Arabs treat their women and gays and (shudder) trannys?
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Who’s going to tell them?
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(https://i.imgur.com/nei1QJd.gif)
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(https://i.imgur.com/nei1QJd.gif)
I don't believe we have a right to demand a ceasefire in either case. All we have is the right to send them various forms of assistance, or not.
Who do you think poses the greatest danger to the US? Russia or Hamas?
(Being a man, I sometimes think Sharia law might not be so bad).
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(https://i.imgur.com/nei1QJd.gif)
Did he? I thought we were supposed to be all pro whatever Israel is doing to Hamas. I'm so confused.
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Did he? I thought we were supposed to be all pro whatever Israel is doing to Hamas. I'm so confused.
They did initially, then took down the post.
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(https://i.imgur.com/nei1QJd.gif)
The Big Guy isn't getting a kickback from Israel? Only reason I can think.
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The Big Guy isn't getting a kickback from Israel? Only reason I can think.
^^^^^This, and Netanyahu hates him, for good reasons.
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U.S., Qatar agree to stop Iran from tapping $6 billion fund after Hamas attack
IOW, we fucked up.
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This really looks bad. First, Trump had it under control. Then Biden releases the funds. Then, Iran may or may not have directed and funded Hamas, so Biden re-freezes the funds meaning a.) he’s doing what Trump did but you’ll never hear him give Trump the credit and b.) he is making the U.S. look like we are going back on our word.
Biden is exuding weakness, wishy-washy-ness and dishonorableness while Trump exuded strength and a bit of crazy - a great deterrence.
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IOW, we fucked up.
"we"???
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"we"???
The collective "we".
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Well, here we are 5 days later and I'm in the same place.
1 Sam 15:3 - "Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys." I've been hearing that idea referred to a lot on twitter over the past week - to the last camel and donkey.
May God curse Hamas and all those that support them for seven times seven times seven generations.
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This really looks bad. First, Trump had it under control. Then Biden releases the funds. Then, Iran may or may not have directed and funded Hamas, so Biden re-freezes the funds meaning a.) he’s doing what Trump did but you’ll never hear him give Trump the credit and b.) he is making the U.S. look like we are going back on our word.
Biden is exuding weakness, wishy-washy-ness and dishonorableness while Trump exuded strength and a bit of crazy - a great deterrence.
And Trump criticized Netanyahu days after the slaughter because he congratulated Biden. He’s a fucking child. It’s all about him.
https://youtu.be/cy8ZtI85N9M?si=OswMB3C8GtmYooXG
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And Trump criticized Netanyahu days after the slaughter because he congratulated Biden. He’s a fucking child. It’s all about him.
https://youtu.be/cy8ZtI85N9M?si=OswMB3C8GtmYooXG
I watched that whole thing and I don’t know what you’re talking about. What did he say that isn’t true?
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I watched that whole thing and I don’t know what you’re talking about. What did he say that isn’t true?
First of all, we don’t know if what Trump said about Netanyahu is true. The job got done so what’s the problem.
But he had to say this within days of Israel suffering something worse than our 9/11? While Netanyahu is formulating a battle plan against Hamas and probably plans against Hezbollah?
Did you not hear how this was all about him? At a time of major world crisis?
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First of all, we don’t know if what Trump said about Netanyahu is true. The job got done so what’s the problem.
But he had to say this within days of Israel suffering something worse than our 9/11? While Netanyahu is formulating a battle plan against Hamas and probably plans against Hezbollah?
Did you not hear how this was all about him? At a time of major world crisis?
No. He’s campaigning. He should be talking about himself. And a major world crisis is the biggest reason to highlight himself, being as he’s the only one who can save us from this mess. And before you talk about Ron, I mean the only one of the three who will actually be on the ballot.
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being as he’s the only one who can save us from this mess.
Hahaha.
But of those campaigning, you might be right. Maybe.
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Hahaha.
But of those campaigning, you might be right. Maybe.
Yeah maybe. It’s possible RFKJr could also keep us out of war, but it’s certain our chances are dismal with Biden.
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1712862214573404451
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I love being Texan.
https://babylonbee.com/cleanArticle/texans-strangely-unconcerned-about-global-day-of-jihad
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I love being Texan.
https://babylonbee.com/cleanArticle/texans-strangely-unconcerned-about-global-day-of-jihad
huh? the gun stores don't have bbq right there?
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The Governor signed an executive order on Thursday that enables the Florida Division of Emergency Management to bring Floridians home and transport supplies out to Israel. They. estimate some 20,000 U.S. citizens, including Floridians, are stranded in Israel.
The executive order directs the Flordia Division of Emergency Management to charter flights for Americans trying to get home. It also states, “There are more than 20,000 Americans, including Floridians in Israel who wish to return home but are unable to do so. The executive order allows the State of Floria to carry out logistical, rescue, and evacuation operations to keep its residents safe.”
https://www.wfla.com/news/hillsborough-county/live-desantis-greets-270-american-evacuees-from-israel-after-they-land-in-tampa/?fbclid=IwAR2FJhmO79NCFQXeQ3ijphNyoSabJSxbiED1HA7kw_4za0Ln3Ayg78795Rs_aem_AUi5o7WN-EivSmZTvY_tOa4prtqjc5PJJYT3flFPuPfJDR-LNvz2Z6YvrBK7sHIKKCM&mibextid=Zxz2cZ
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I understand that fjb and his band of faggots, tyrannies, and criminals are forcing American citizens to sign promissory notes guaranteeing payment for any assistance the US government gives them getting out of the war zone.
That should cover 10% for the big guy pretty well.
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I understand that fjb and his band of faggots, tyrannies, and criminals are forcing American citizens to sign promissory notes guaranteeing payment for any assistance the US government gives them getting out of the war zone.
That should cover 10% for the big guy pretty well.
I saw that too. Yet illegal aliens get the red carpet treatment. Fuck DC, FJB.
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Pentagon puts troops on notice to prepare to deploy to support Israel: reports (https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4259025-pentagon-puts-troops-on-notice-to-prepare-to-deploy-to-support-israel-reports/)
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Pentagon puts troops on notice to prepare to deploy to support Israel: reports (https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4259025-pentagon-puts-troops-on-notice-to-prepare-to-deploy-to-support-israel-reports/)
Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has ordered a select number of U.S. troops to prepare to deploy in support of Israel, multiple outlets have reported.
About 2,000 such troops were chosen this weekend to be ready to assist with advising and medical support, The Wall Street Journal first reported.
The forces will be pulled from across the U.S. armed services, with the troops currently stationed inside the Middle East and in nearby Europe. But officials have not said which units were chosen or the location they would deploy to, according to the Journal.
The outlet noted the troops wouldn’t serve in a combat role, and no infantry had been put on prepare-to-deploy order.
So just medical and advising, nothing more.
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Should that have been green font? ::)
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So just medical and advising, nothing more.
Additionally:
US Marine rapid response force moving toward Israel as Pentagon strengthens military posture in region (https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/16/politics/us-marines-pentagon-israel/index.html)
Yet "...the US has no plans to put American boots on the ground to fight in the war between Israel and Hamas...."
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I saw that too. Yet illegal aliens get the red carpet treatment. Fuck DC, FJB.
The Territory is at war with Citizens. It's as if we were the enemy. Domestic terrorists and all that.
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Additionally:
US Marine rapid response force moving toward Israel as Pentagon strengthens military posture in region (https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/16/politics/us-marines-pentagon-israel/index.html)
Yet "...the US has no plans to put American boots on the ground to fight in the war between Israel and Hamas...."
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The minute we put fighting men on the ground, we'll have WWIII.
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The minute we put fighting men on the ground, we'll have WWIII.
No no no......we were told that Trump would get us into WW3, and we needed a guy like Biden, who has extensive foreign diplomacy skills to keep the world at peace.
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Additionally:
US Marine rapid response force moving toward Israel as Pentagon strengthens military posture in region (https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/16/politics/us-marines-pentagon-israel/index.html)
Yet "...the US has no plans to put American boots on the ground to fight in the war between Israel and Hamas...."
I'll bet a dollar that the US military has contingency plans. Just no orders.
yet.
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If those orders come from the four star tranny and his woke gang, they will include free health care for hamas, and a bouquet of roses for iran.
The biden clown car is so embarrassing that calling them a clown car is an insult to clowns.
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I bet they deploy to Gaza as "peacekeeping" forces. Conveniently preventing Israel from cleaning the place out.
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I bet they deploy to Gaza as "peacekeeping" forces. Conveniently preventing Israel from cleaning the place out.
Amazing how Ukraine should wipe out the Russians (with our money, of course) but Israel should "show restraint". ::)
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Amazing how Ukraine should wipe out the Russians (with our money, of course) but Israel should "show restraint". ::)
When you compare the difference you instantly know who the real enemy is.
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Hezbollah is trying the fake punt play against Israel.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/israeli-ground-offensive-in-gaza-delayed-over-new-alleged-plot-report
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Well worth a listen. He hits the nail on the head who these people are.
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We haven’t even heard the worst about the barbarism of these fucking death cult muslim fuckers.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/israeli-official-hamas-raped-women-grandmothers-children-so-violently-they-broke-victims-pelvis
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Not only that, but an Hamas terrorist was killed and he had the plans on how to build chemical weapons on him.
We haven't even scratched the surface on how bad these sub humans are.
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Just remember....
If Hamas disarms there can be peace
If Israel disarms they will cease to exist.
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Just remember....
If Hamas disarms there can be peace
If Israel disarms they will cease to exist.
Just like Ukraine.
If Russia quits fighting there will be peace.
If Ukraine quits fighting, they will cease to exist as a country.
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Just like Ukraine.
If Russia quits fighting there will be peace.
If Ukraine quits fighting, they will cease to exist as a country.
It's nothing like Ukraine. Ukraine is a corrupt police state. People are not "free" there. ::)
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It's nothing like Ukraine. Ukraine is a corrupt police state. People are not "free" there. ::)
But they can carry guns.
And their women are better looking.
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This is a fantastic video where Mikhaila allows the two sides to present their point of view. I learned a lot. I know it’s long but worth it. I never sit and watch these things. I ,owed the grass, did laundry, did meal prep, worked at my job, etc.
But okay I’ll hit on a couple of points. The first one presents Israel’s side. The Jews are the indigenous people of the area (unless you can find a Canaanite). It gradually became populated with Arabs and Islam came along centuries after the Jews first inhabited it. Jews had dispersed all over the world but after being persecuted especially after WW2 many began moving back to their ancestral homeland after which the Jewish population increased again, and it was given official statehood. “Palestine” was never recognized as an autonomous state but the area had been under British rule, Ottoman rule, and of course Roman.
After the state of Israel was created many of the Arabs felt displaced and long story short revolted by terrorist means such as PLO suicide bombings. In response to this Israel walled off the source, such as Gaza, and stopped allowing Palestinians access into Israel. In the meantime the Palestinians had been offered formal statehood on several occasions but turned it down. So the situation with the Palestinians is their own fault as they repeatedly failed to accept a peaceable negotiation. When they attacked on Oct. 7 Israel now must pull out all the stops to eradicate Hamas while at the same time doing their best to avoid civilian casualties by issuing warnings through several different means prior to every strike.
The second portion presented the Palestinian point of view. Right off he says he will begin in 1948. So immediately I note that he evades entirely the issue of Jews being indigenous. But in 1948 Arabs were the main occupants, owned land, lived there, worked there, had been there for generations. When the Jews started returning, they were displacing “indigenous” Arabs! If memory serves he actually uses the word indigenous.
Here I digress and offer my opinion: They aren’t necessarily wrong. How would we in America react if Native Americans invaded our properties and tried to reclaim them because they were the first “indigenous” people there. Mankind has always conquered and displaced each other. The winners through superior technology, culture, economic systems, intelligence, or sheer numbers, are the new rightful owners. But by the same token, the returning Jews may have been of superior social or economic systems over the Arabs. Nevertheless the Arabs have a legitimate point.
In any event they reacted badly by targeting civilians via terrorism to make their point which modern civilization wholely rejects and, right or wrong, the international community had given the land back to the Jews as arbiters in this dispute. The losing party should step down, accept the loss and move on. But the Palestinians chose not to.
Back to the guy’s presentation: So he states the reason they didn’t accept the two state solutions was because they were offered a much small portion that their respective populations represented, and were offered inferior desert while Israel would keep the lush fertile areas. This was the first I’d heard of that and if true he has a point. I don’t recall if he gave any defense of the ongoing terrorist excursions into Israel other than he mentions “non-violent resistance” IIRC so it may be along the lines of “mostly peaceful protests a la BLM”.
In any case Israel’s eventual response to all this was to wall Gaza off completely, lane, sea and air, effective imprisoning the inhabitants. Emigration applications were difficult or impossible to get and supplies restricted. This was sometime around the turn of the century and has been ongoing since. In the meantime the inhabitants had babies.
Now, 20 years later we have a whole generation of youth who have never known anything other than life on that tiny patch of land, impoverished, with zero hope of ever leaving and seeing the rest of the world. (He fails to emphasize that they are meanwhile being indoctrinated with hatred toward the Jews). He does point out that while they voted in Hamas, this was engineered and supported by Western powers. (That wouldn’t surprise me, it wouldn’t be the first time the West supported a leader or group that turned out in the end to be evil.)
What happened on October 7 was these youths finally exploded and broke out (he doesn’t deny that it was an organized venture from the leaders of Hamas). Now, this part I believe. You take a kid who has never known anything but confinement in a hellhole similar to the slums of any Dem city, only with literal forcible confinement therein, and you expect him to not lash out and try to escape? You expect him not to hate the ones responsible for keeping him from going out into the world and finding a successful livelihood?
Now my opinion again: They didn’t see the innocent women and babies as innocents but lashed out in blind rage. I draw an analogy to a dog that has been abused since birth and as an adult is aggressive. I believe such dogs are mostly unsalvageable and should be euthanized. So the correct response to this is exactly what Israel is doing: going after them with the goal to kill Hamas. It’s unfortunate because these are human beings not dogs, but no matter the justification, Hamas initiated this by killing innocent civilians and it cannot be tolerated.
Having said that, Israel certainly contributed if not caused it, by expecting that tiny slice of land to be self sufficient and thrive when all trade and commerce with the outside world is cut off or at least greatly throttled. On the other hand, the inability of the residents to leave no doubt is due to their poverty, Hamas forcibly keeping them, and lack of other countries willing to accept them. (With good reason I might add.)
All of this was headed to much better resolution with the Abraham accords facilitated by Trump which would have smoothed the way for improvement in all Arab/Israel relations. But Iran doesn’t want that. Iran is threatened by any cooperation between the rest of the Islamic world and the west, so (my opinion) the minute WEAK Biden took office, Iran nudged Hamas to pull the pin on those disaffected youth and start this whole round.
My conclusion, I can see it from both sides. Bottom line is both sides feel their claim on Israeli land is more legitimate and I don’t take a stand one way or the other. In human history such land disputes are settled by war or by negotiation or by genocide. The latter, slaughtering civilians is NEVER justified by modern standards. Islamic jihad refuses to embrace modern moral standards and the rest of the world has every right to fight back with everything necessary to protect ourselves.
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We are supporting Ukraine against Russia, which I approve of.
We are supporting Israel against Hamas. And maybe Hesbollay, and probably Iran. Which I approve of.
We have always declared we would support Taiwan against China.
Now this:
MANILA, Philippines – The United States renewed a warning Monday that it would defend the Philippines in case of an armed attack under a 1951 treaty, after Chinese ships blocked and collided with two Filipino vessels off a contested shoal in the South China Sea.
What I want to know is when the heck are we going to attack someone and cut off the heads of the snakes?
It reminds me of me:
I have an airplane.
I want a boat.
I want a motorcycle.
I want a second home.
I want a lot of things.
And I can afford any ONE of them, but not all of them, unless I take some serious action.
Good thing our printing presses are working well. I wish I had one.
(Yeah, I know: "poor me").
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Problem is, FJB is also funding Hamas as well as Iran.
And in the case of Ukraine, the FJB placed sanctions on Russia which only improved their economy and helped them wage war. And we support Taiwan, while we trade with China, sell China our debt and also provide China with billions in foreign aid.
Throw in for good measure the $85 billion in military hardware and ammunition FJB left behind in Afghanistan, which is now being found being used by Hamas and Hezbollah as well as some other foreign actors.
Let's not forget that a lot of oil transits through the Strait of Hormuz each day, and once a hot war kicks off we will face an immediate oil shortage, and our petroleum stockpile is only at 17 days now.
The Ukraine clusterfuck has depleted our munitions stockpiles.
BTW, when the fuck did we elect Lyndsey Graham as President? All of his talk about bombing Iran oil fields and such is not helping and only fanning the flames of war.
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And for those wondering what the communist were going to do to screw with the 2024 elections, you're watching it unfold now.
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Problem is, FJB is also funding Hamas as well as Iran.
And in the case of Ukraine, the FJB placed sanctions on Russia which only improved their economy and helped them wage war. And we support Taiwan, while we trade with China, sell China our debt and also provide China with billions in foreign aid.
Throw in for good measure the $85 billion in military hardware and ammunition FJB left behind in Afghanistan, which is now being found being used by Hamas and Hezbollah as well as some other foreign actors.
Let's not forget that a lot of oil transits through the Strait of Hormuz each day, and once a hot war kicks off we will face an immediate oil shortage, and our petroleum stockpile is only at 17 days now.
The Ukraine clusterfuck has depleted our munitions stockpiles.
BTW, when the fuck did we elect Lyndsey Graham as President? All of his talk about bombing Iran oil fields and such is not helping and only fanning the flames of war.
Lindsey Graham must have a micro-dick to be such a war monger.
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Lindsey Graham must have a micro-dick to be such a war monger.
I dunno. Maybe someone who visits gay bath houses can confirm? ;)
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It wants me to login. I don't have an instagram account.
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It wants me to login. I don't have an instagram account.
Sorry. Here’s a screen shot.
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Sorry. Here’s a screen shot.
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Thanks!
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I fully support the proposed swap, but wish to include several additional unhappy, harpy, lefties.
The only condition is they must keep them once they arrive.
Who knows, they might be useful to clean the toilets.
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I fully support the proposed swap, but wish to include several additional unhappy, harpy, lefties.
The only condition is they must keep them once they arrive.
Who knows, they might be useful to clean the toilets.
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It looks like this guy, David D. is posting knowledgeable updates on the IDF invasion of Gaza.
https://twitter.com/secretsqrl123/status/1719109025546027030
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Johnson is proposing $14.3B for Israel and will offset with a $14.3B cut to the IRS.
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It looks like this guy, David D. is posting knowledgeable updates on the IDF invasion of Gaza.
https://twitter.com/secretsqrl123/status/1719109025546027030
I wonder if invasion is really the right word. Technically, it is since IDF is entering what could be considered another country. But when an army goes into a region to take out terrorists and rocket launcher sites and rescue hostages, is it really an invasion? If Ukraine were to push Russia out of their territory and then go a little further, is that an invasion? Perhaps it's simply a mostly peaceful protest against the terrorists? Seriously, I'm curious if there's a better word. But I didn't get much sleep and I haven't had any caffeine yet so my mind wanders.
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I wonder if invasion is really the right word. Technically, it is since IDF is entering what could be considered another country. But when an army goes into a region to take out terrorists and rocket launcher sites and rescue hostages, is it really an invasion? If Ukraine were to push Russia out of their territory and then go a little further, is that an invasion? Perhaps it's simply a mostly peaceful protest against the terrorists? Seriously, I'm curious if there's a better word. But I didn't get much sleep and I haven't had any caffeine yet so my mind wanders.
Just for fun I went to google maps and used street view to explore both Israel and Gaza. All the navigation in or near Gaza is disabled but there are still 360 deg photos available. It was very enlightening.
There is a stark difference between them. Israel for all intents is similar to any western civilization, with good infrastructure (roads) and cultural centers like museums, historical sites. Things are in good repair. The people are dressed in western clothes and there appears to be a good standard of living.
Gaza is a few notches down in standard of living. Many photos show poverty. The women are covered in Muslim fashion and many men are in Arab dress. Open air markets have impoverished looking proprietors. Areas are in disrepair and these photos are taken before the current invasion.
The cultures are completely different. When you watch the video of the girls dancing at the festival that was attacked, half naked, dancing in what to my generation are slutty gyrations, (and mine is the Woodstock generation so that’s saying something), you can picture radical fundamentalist Muslims viewing them as extreme degenerates. But the Israelis have merely kept up with western culture, for good or bad, the Palestinians have not.
My theory is that there is also a large genetic difference including general intelligence. Everyone knows the Israelis are smart. Jews in fact score higher in IQ than average. I don’t know what Palestinians score but I’ll wager it’s not higher than average. Intelligence is positively correlated with success in life and the acquisition of wealth. So the Jews have a thriving civilization which if you live (in relative poverty) right next to it and you feel like they have absconded with “your” land, that must cause jealousy and resentment.
This occurs anywhere you have genetic disparities. (Low IQ trailer trash do not recognize IQ difference being the cause of their poverty but instead blame “greed” of rich people for keeping them poor.)
Having said that, a free society will lift everyone’s standard of living. The less intellectually gifted will have a niche in the market and thrive, relatively speaking. So that brings me to the question: Is Gaza poverty due to, or exacerbated by, Israel blockades? No matter your talents you can’t thrive if imprisoned on a tiny plot of land. And the answer to that is surely in large part due to Hamas taking all humanitarian aid and internal productivity for themselves and their “holy war”.
And the blockade and imprisonment is due to the past Palestinian terror attacks on Israel so it’s not like Israel had a choice. Kids were being blown up in grocery stores by suicide bombers.
Anyway the point is, these are two totally different cultures and peoples, and it seems to me irreconcilable.
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I checked on Google Maps and saw what you did. Israel has a lot of green space and what appears to be fairly nice housing. Gaza is mostly a shithole of dust and bland. Kind of like East / West Germany.
Let's say that Gaza catches a clue and opens up. What do they offer to the world? There are prosperous Muslim countries, but they also tend to be oil rich. What can Gaza trade? I don't see any deep water ports. Does Gaza even have an airport? No money, no goods, nothing but poverty. What can they trade to get the goods needed to lift their standard of living? I'm not excusing their behavior. They want what Israel has because they can't do it on their own.
The best thing for the population of Gaza is for Israel to take over and lift it up. Much like East Germany. But that's only if Gaza leaders care about their people. They clearly don't.
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How you kick off WWIII....
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Yep.
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https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1720967888075416062
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https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1720967888075416062
BUT… it’s not an insurrection.
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BUT… it’s not an insurrection.
It's an invasion.
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Hamas is beyond evil.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/hamas-terrorists-committing-war-crimes-by-using-ambulances-in-gaza
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Hamas is beyond evil.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/hamas-terrorists-committing-war-crimes-by-using-ambulances-in-gaza
Agreed.
But over 100,000 protested in DC in SUPPORT of Hamas. Think about that for a moment.
The democrats have ripped the final part of their mask off now. In addition to being racist, Marxist and socialist demanding a totalitarian regime replace our government, they are now anti-Semitic, which places them squarely in the NAZI ideology.
We have 14 more months to endure this regime. Look at the destruction it's created in 3 years. And failing regimes are very dangerous as the desperation grows to retain power.
Buckle up folks.
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Off the subject a little. In 1978 I was an ATC instructor working at Keesler AFB in Biloxi, MS. At this time we usually had 3 o4 Iranian students in every class. I also did some flight instructing at the base aero club and sometimes flew a Cessna 206 for some shrimp boats chasing parts and whatever else they needed. One Friday night I got a call from the boat scheduler asking if I would be interested in a flight to an airport near Atlanta that night. When I arrived at Gulfport airport I found 3 Irainian female students that had been in my class a few months before. They remembered me and we had a good talk. They had just graduated and wanted to defect to America. During the flight they told me that things were going to hell in a handbasket back in Iran and they knew it would not be good for women and minorities. About 6 months later the Shah abducted and we know what happened next. I dropped them off at a small airport southwest of Atlanta, there were people there to meet them, gave them a good welcome. One lady sat up front with me very interested in the instruments, communications and navigation. I often wondered what has happened to them.
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Off the subject a little. In 1978 I was an ATC instructor working at Keesler AFB in Biloxi, MS. At this time we usually had 3 o4 Iranian students in every class. I also did some flight instructing at the base aero club and sometimes flew a Cessna 206 for some shrimp boats chasing parts and whatever else they needed. One Friday night I got a call from the boat scheduler asking if I would be interested in a flight to an airport near Atlanta that night. When I arrived at Gulfport airport I found 3 Irainian female students that had been in my class a few months before. They remembered me and we had a good talk. They had just graduated and wanted to defect to America. During the flight they told me that things were going to hell in a handbasket back in Iran and they knew it would not be good for women and minorities. About 6 months later the Shah abducted and we know what happened next. I dropped them off at a small airport southwest of Atlanta, there were people there to meet them, gave them a good welcome. One lady sat up front with me very interested in the instruments, communications and navigation. I often wondered what has happened to them.
I knew an Iranian man whose father snuck him out to America when he was 16 with a tape of what the revolutionaries were doing to dissidents. (Extremely gory.) He started a small business in America and did well. He had fallen in love with America as a child watching spaghetti westerns. The spirit of freedom and individualism called to him. I have lost touch with him and wonder what he thinks of how things are going here today.
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I had a few kids in my school that their parents escaped from Iran in the 70's. They talked about family in Iran getting locked up for not being in lock step with the regime. Needless to say they assimilated 100% into America. All became successful and I have never seen or heard of them posting anything online degrading our country. Hell, I never heard them speak anything other than English, and none of them had any accents (except Midwest Ohio) at all.
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I had a few kids in my school that their parents escaped from Iran in the 70's. They talked about family in Iran getting locked up for not being in lock step with the regime. Needless to say they assimilated 100% into America. All became successful and I have never seen or heard of them posting anything online degrading our country. Hell, I never heard them speak anything other than English, and none of them had any accents (except Midwest Ohio) at all.
My friend said they were required to have Khomeini's picture on their wall, it was by the door and soldiers would come house to house to make sure you had one and to order you out to the streets to protest against the West. His dad would spit on the picture. So when you saw all the “Death to America” Iranian demonstrations you can’t be sure a lot of them don’t actually mean it.
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Just remember that it may not be valid to judge the average Iranian (or anyone) by the ones that escape to America. Those that come here are likely a minuscule minority.
It would be sort of like judging the average American Democrat if you met a few Trump supporters that fled our failing government.
I also remember actually believing that the Iraqis would meet our troops in the streets with flowers and kisses when they liberated the country. How'd that work out? That sort of soured me on thinking the average Middle Easterner does, could or would love America.
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Just remember that it may not be valid to judge the average Iranian (or anyone) by the ones that escape to America. Those that come here are likely a minuscule minority.
It would be sort of like judging the average American Democrat if you met a few Trump supporters that fled our failing government.
I also remember actually believing that the Iraqis would meet our troops in the streets with flowers and kisses when they liberated the country. How'd that work out? That sort of soured me on thinking the average Middle Easterner does, could or would love America.
Also we are talking about a several generations ago. I can't believe anyone watching shows out of Hollywood today would love America.
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Also we are talking about a several generations ago. I can't believe anyone watching shows out of Hollywood today would love America.
Good point.