PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: azure on May 27, 2019, 06:21:15 PM
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A bit long, but very recent (May 20 I think), and well worth watching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJFgg0oK6Qk&feature=youtu.be
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That seemed a balanced outlook to me. My husband has had an interest in the climate models for years and repeatedly has mentioned that “they don’t work.” I like Curry’s admissions that we have a dynamic system and that it’s “overwrought hysteria” to blame everything that happens in the climate on C02 emissions.
And yet ... if I were a diehard liberal, I’d be lining up behind opportunistic quacks like this ...
https://mobile.twitter.com/ewarren/status/1133185531972673537
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And it only takes 30 seconds with a google search to find out that Burlington Iowa is on the Mississippi River. The information I just read says flooding is higher because of better flood control upstream, effectively forcing all the flood water to stay in the river rather than spreading out.
Progress continued to roll through Burlington, and not always for the better. Construction of the river levees began in the early 1900s, which caused persistent flooding in Burlington that continues to this day. The largest of the those floods —the Flood of 1993 and the Flood of 2008 — crippled Burlington's downtown for months and caused millions of dollars in damage.
http://gatehousenews.com/ariverrunsthroughus/#history
So...is Elizabeth Warren lying about this or is she just ignorant?
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Humans build stuff in areas that often things shouldn't be built, and if they do, then don't spend the money necessary to make it safe from flooding. Look at New Orleans, built below sea level, then the government entities did not maintain the levies, or construct levies to do what is required. Instead, I guarantee government let it go, and spent the money elsewhere on vote buying boondoggles.
Instead of cackling about man made climate change, maybe Warren should address the waste and over spending of government on NON ESSENTIAL ITEMS. She is an assclown of highest proportions.
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Libs like azure and stringer are always demanding we all bow down and embrace their hysterical bullshit because..... oh yeah... just because.
There is no there there and libs know it but keep pushing babbling and lying because it’s what they do.
There is no ‘balance.’ That’s lib speak for you must accept that we know better than you because ‘we’re so deserving.’
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Libs like azure and stringer are always demanding we all bow down and embrace their hysterical bullshit because..... oh yeah... just because.
There is no there there and libs know it but keep pushing babbling and lying because it’s what they do.
There is no ‘balance.’ That’s lib speak for you must accept that we know better than you because ‘we’re so deserving.’
Huh? ???
Might want to check who started this thread... ;)
And FWIW, I agree with Curry, and NOT with the climate doomsayers... and I've said so many times on this forum.
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And it only takes 30 seconds with a google search to find out that Burlington Iowa is on the Mississippi River. The information I just read says flooding is higher because of better flood control upstream, effectively forcing all the flood water to stay in the river rather than spreading out.
http://gatehousenews.com/ariverrunsthroughus/#history
So...is Elizabeth Warren lying about this or is she just ignorant?
I went to college in Rock Island, Illinois 1978-1982, and again lived in Davenport from 1992-2000. Both towns are river towns and are across the Mississippi River from each other in an area called the Quad Cities.
Flooding happened nearly every year out of the 12 years that I lived in the area. They had at least two “Hundred-year Floods” when I lived there. 1993 and one other year I believe.
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And it only takes 30 seconds with a google search to find out that Burlington Iowa is on the Mississippi River. The information I just read says flooding is higher because of better flood control upstream, effectively forcing all the flood water to stay in the river rather than spreading out.
http://gatehousenews.com/ariverrunsthroughus/#history
So...is Elizabeth Warren lying about this or is she just ignorant?
Isn't it quaint that Warren thinks climate change can so precisely target one city? Typical leftist myopic idiocy.
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Isn't it quaint that Warren thinks climate change can so precisely target one city? Typical leftist myopic idiocy.
It is obvious the Democrats want to use the Hoax of man made climate change (why did they change the name from global warming) to scam more tax dollars, fees, and energy surcharges. Cap and Trade will limit CO2 emissions to a finite level arbitrarily mandated by government then companies will have to BUY the required licensed amount of C02 "credits" in order to remain in operation. This will force MORE companies to go overseas, and it will raise the prices of ALL GOODS on American consumers. Electricity, oil, natural gas, and gasoline will all skyrocket in price, and be taxed even more than they already are.
The entire climate change fixes the Democrats want would be a Job and Economy killing measure.
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The entire climate change fixes the Democrats want would be a Job and Economy killing measure.
I agree. In fact, EVEN IF the worst case scenarios projected by the models are true, the Green New Deal fixes will not avert much of the coming disaster, and instead will leave us with less capital with which to build what we would need to adapt to climate change as it unfolds.
There are some "no regrets" steps we can take, things we should be doing for reasons unrelated to global warming. Alternative energy sources are a must because fossil fuels are a finite resource that we will almost certainly run out of within a few generations. We should not be shuttering nuclear plants, and we should be investing more in solving the problems of getting to and beyond break-even in nuclear fusion. I'm pessimistic about solar and wind ever being more than an extra source of "free" energy on the side, because of the intermittency problem and also because of the land area that has to be set aside for them. But by all means, let's keep working on them and deploying them where it's practical.
Whether we are the main driver of what's happening now or not, climate change is inevitable so let's work harder on strategies for adaptation. We don't know how much effect our GHG emissions will ultimately have but one thing is for certain, the climate will change in ways we can't imagine today, as it always has. Let's discourage further development along the coastlines - that will probably happen as a matter of course, as insurance on structures there will become more and more expensive. People who live in large coastal cities will have serious decisions to make in the next few decades. We can learn from past underestimates of the power of nature and design our buildings to withstand more powerful winds, earthquakes, etc. in areas that are vulnerable to those events.
The last thing we need is panicked, radical changes that are likely to leave us more vulnerable to what we fear most. Chicken Little is a shitty role model.
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I agree. In fact, EVEN IF the worst case scenarios projected by the models are true, the Green New Deal fixes will not avert much of the coming disaster, and instead will leave us with less capital with which to build what we would need to adapt to climate change as it unfolds.
There are some "no regrets" steps we can take, things we should be doing for reasons unrelated to global warming. Alternative energy sources are a must because fossil fuels are a finite resource that we will almost certainly run out of within a few generations. We should not be shuttering nuclear plants, and we should be investing more in solving the problems of getting to and beyond break-even in nuclear fusion. I'm pessimistic about solar and wind ever being more than an extra source of "free" energy on the side, because of the intermittency problem and also because of the land area that has to be set aside for them. But by all means, let's keep working on them and deploying them where it's practical.
Whether we are the main driver of what's happening now or not, climate change is inevitable so let's work harder on strategies for adaptation. We don't know how much effect our GHG emissions will ultimately have but one thing is for certain, the climate will change in ways we can't imagine today, as it always has. Let's discourage further development along the coastlines - that will probably happen as a matter of course, as insurance on structures there will become more and more expensive. People who live in large coastal cities will have serious decisions to make in the next few decades. We can learn from past underestimates of the power of nature and design our buildings to withstand more powerful winds, earthquakes, etc. in areas that are vulnerable to those events.
The last thing we need is panicked, radical changes that are likely to leave us more vulnerable to what we fear most. Chicken Little is a shitty role model.
I can not fathom how people can look at the "Green New Deal" as anyway workable, practical, doable, or reasonable. Many of the Democrat candidates have embraced it, or a variation of it. Weird.
Thanks, btw.