PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Username on February 21, 2020, 09:08:06 AM
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It looks like Democrats have given up on the election and Trump will be reelected in a landslide. The narrative is set that the whole thing is being rigged by Russia. They'll still carry on with their circus to please the masses, but expect lots of "He's an illegitimate president", lawsuits, and actions to overturn the election. Impeachment just gives the presidency to Pence. Disqualifying Trump may be a way to give it to the second-place finisher.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/20/politics/trump-russia-intelligence-2020/index.html
The intelligence community's top election security official delivered a briefing to lawmakers last week warning them that the intelligence community believes Russia is already taking steps to interfere in the 2020 election with the goal of helping President Donald Trump win, three sources familiar with the matter tell CNN.
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I don't understand how they can claim Russian interference when all the intelligence agencies are largely Democrat. FBI, CIA, NSA, etc. Also, if they are that certain it is happening, then they should know who, and where it is happening and then stop it.
Clearly, like in 2016, they are using it as a scapegoat. None of the candidates are any better than Hillary, and they actually may be worse, which I didn't think was possible.
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I’m offended by: “the” intelligence community believes....
Not all in the IC are insulated fanatics so out of touch with the American people that they cannot fathom voters legitimately electing Trump. Guess what? Vladimir Putin understands the American people much better than our own leftist elite within our own IC! He knows he has no need to interfere in the 2020, because Trump’s valid re-election is becoming more ensured by the minute.
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I’m offended by: “the” intelligence community believes....
Not all in the IC are insulated fanatics so out of touch with the American people that they cannot fathom voters legitimately electing Trump. Guess what? Vladimir Putin understands the American people much better than our own leftist elite within our own IC! He knows he has no need to interfere in the 2020, because Trump’s valid re-election is becoming more ensured by the minute.
Why would Putin want a strong, economic leader like Trump in office? Just his Energy Policy alone, which is diametrically opposed to Putin's is enough to show he's not "owned by Putin and Russia". Not to mention the other economic, military, trade policies that go against Russian interests, yet you hear none of this in the Media.
Hillary was a pushover, and Russia knew it. Remember the failed "Russian Re-Set"? They openly laughed at her. She was a joke.
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Why would Putin want a strong, economic leader like Trump in office?
Because he understands Democrats better than they understand themselves. He understands that the Dems hate Trump so much that they will do anything, even if it hurts our country, to resist Trump and make him look bad in the eyes of the world. So Putin isn't pulling for Trump. He is pulling for the Democrats to sabotage Trump AND our country.
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I’ve always been skeptical of the assumption Putin preferred Hillary and doesn’t like Trump. Or for that matter any of the current Dem candidates. Trump is an open, straightforward opponent. What you see is what you get. All of the Dems on the other hand, are capable of disingenuous machinations. We know this and Putin knows this because it is required in order to be an economic leftist. You must lie and cheat because no populous will voluntarily turn all their labor and money over to government. Why would Putin want to deal with that, when he can have an honest if wary relationship with Trump?
From what I understand, what real election influence the Russians have attempted, is not to favor one candidate over another, but to contribute to the general polarization among the people, to help promote the hatred and divide. They don’t care so much who wins the White House, if they can get us into a civil war with ourselves.
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I’ve always been skeptical of the assumption Putin preferred Hillary and doesn’t like Trump. Or for that matter any of the current Dem candidates. Trump is an open, straightforward opponent. What you see is what you get. All of the Dems on the other hand, are capable of disingenuous machinations. We know this and Putin knows this because it is required in order to be an economic leftist. You must lie and cheat because no populous will voluntarily turn all their labor and money over to government. Why would Putin want to deal with that, when he can have an honest if wary relationship with Trump?
From what I understand, what real election influence the Russians have attempted, is not to favor one candidate over another, but to contribute to the general polarization among the people, to help promote the hatred and divide. They don’t care so much who wins the White House, if they can get us into a civil war with ourselves.
So then I assume you agreed with my post?
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So then I assume you agreed with my post?
Possibly, but at this very second Rush (the other one) has a guy asserting that Russia WANTS the U.S. to be strong economically, because when we aren't, it hurts the whole world's economy, including them.
Rush comes back and nails it. They want us healthy and okay, but NOT stronger than them, that's all.
Not saying this is true, it's just what Rush just now said.
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Possibly, but at this very second Rush (the other one) has a guy asserting that Russia WANTS the U.S. to be strong economically, because when we aren't, it hurts the whole world's economy, including them.
Rush comes back and nails it. They want us healthy and okay, but NOT stronger than them, that's all.
Not saying this is true, it's just what Rush just now said.
Rush also asked yesterday (as I have been doing here many times) about any evidence of Russia actually interfering in our elections. So they allegedly broke into the DNC’s servers. Big deal. Companies get hacked every single day.
So they make posts on Social media? And that’s deemed “interfering in our elections?” What snowflake actually believes that?
Want to see what foreign interference own elections looks like? Go back to Obama, 2015.
https://nypost.com/2018/05/23/the-hypocrisy-of-american-election-investigations-into-israel/
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Turns out that the Russians are trying to help Bernie win. But nothing to see here. Please move along.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/bernie-sanders-briefed-by-us-officials-that-russia-is-trying-to-help-his-presidential-campaign/2020/02/21/5ad396a6-54bd-11ea-929a-64efa7482a77_story.html
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Turns out that the Russians are trying to help Bernie win. But nothing to see here. Please move along.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/bernie-sanders-briefed-by-us-officials-that-russia-is-trying-to-help-his-presidential-campaign/2020/02/21/5ad396a6-54bd-11ea-929a-64efa7482a77_story.html
It is not clear what form that Russian assistance has taken. U.S. prosecutors found a Russian effort in 2016 to use social media to boost Sanders’s campaign against Hillary Clinton, part of a broader effort to hurt Clinton, sow dissension in the American electorate and ultimately help elect Donald Trump.
Oh, so that’s how Russia got Trump elected! They backed the actual communist against Hillary. It had nothing to do with them just actually liking the actual communist.
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Turns out that the Russians are trying to help Bernie win. But nothing to see here. Please move along.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/bernie-sanders-briefed-by-us-officials-that-russia-is-trying-to-help-his-presidential-campaign/2020/02/21/5ad396a6-54bd-11ea-929a-64efa7482a77_story.html
What do you expect when the Dems don’t know how to make it so Bernie does not get nominated. Blame the Russians of course
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Wasn’t it hilary that traded a huge percentage of our strategic uranium to putin in return for over $100 million in “donations.”
I’m certain Donald Trump was not in any way involved in that little example of treason, but the lefties here will be whining about wanting to see links to that AGAIN!!
Won’t you?
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Wasn’t it hilary that traded a huge percentage of our strategic uranium to putin in return for over $100 million in “donations.”
I’m certain Donald Trump was not in any way involved in that little example of treason, but the lefties here will be whining about wanting to see links to that AGAIN!!
Won’t you?
But, but, but it was all Trump's fault!!!
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I have to say I'm genuinely worried about this election. Sanders just won Nevada, so he seems to be on a roll. I don't know what that means, and polls, as we saw in 2016, are utterly unreliable predictors of election outcomes. I can only hope that America (including even some democrats maybe) will realize that Sanders is a candidate even more repulsive than Hillary and will vote accordingly. When I was a kid, someone like Sanders would have been laughed off as a lunatic fringe candidate, if not actually a treasonous criminal. Now, evidently, he, and people like him, are seen as mainstream.
I find it unbelievable, perhaps even terrifying, that there are people in this country who truly have not yet decided how to vote in 2020.
Tim
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Democrats are getting what they wanted. They have worked long and hard to attract illegal aliens, welfare queens, 16 year olds, convicted felons and the homeless. These people are going to vote for whoever promises to make their life easy. That's what Sanders is promising. Now it has the mainstream Democrats in a panic.
We do indeed live in interesting times.
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I have to say I'm genuinely worried about this election. Sanders just won Nevada, so he seems to be on a roll. I don't know what that means, and polls, as we saw in 2016, are utterly unreliable predictors of election outcomes. I can only hope that America (including even some democrats maybe) will realize that Sanders is a candidate even more repulsive than Hillary and will vote accordingly. When I was a kid, someone like Sanders would have been laughed off as a lunatic fringe candidate, if not actually a treasonous criminal. Now, evidently, he, and people like him, are seen as mainstream.
I find it unbelievable, perhaps even terrifying, that there are people in this country who truly have not yet decided how to vote in 2020.
Tim
I find it absolutely terrifying that there are so many people in this country clueless about socialism and communism. Supporting Sanders they are walking right into the mouth of Hell. And they don’t even know it.
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I find it absolutely terrifying that there are so many people in this country clueless about socialism and communism. Supporting Sanders they are walking right into the mouth of Hell. And they don’t even know it.
They should talk to people that used to live in Communist countries. Former Soviet satellites, behind the Iron Curtain, Cuba, etc. These people are often hardcore conservatives, and Constitutionalists because they've lived through Government created socialist/communist HELL.
Once the Bernies, Bloombergs, Warrens, etc get in office, and have a Democrat Congress, we will find out what Hell feels like. Extreme gun control, higher taxes, Carbon taxes, energy prices through the roof. Remember "Stagflation"? Be prepared for it again.
My friends in southern VA said they and their neighbors, friends, etc. were NOT going to comply with recent gun ban and gun confiscation law that was just almost enacted. Civil disobedience.
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Sanders says, give me all your children for reeducation. Don't worry! It's free! (Cost: $1.5 trillion)
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/sanders-free-universal-child-care-plan_n_5e52f4aac5b629695f5c3e0f
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on Monday rolled out a plan under which the federal government would make child care and pre-kindergarten available to all American families, with no tuition or fees.
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Sanders says, give me all your children for reeducation. Don't worry! It's free! (Cost: $1.5 trillion)
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/sanders-free-universal-child-care-plan_n_5e52f4aac5b629695f5c3e0f
Free Avgas and aircraft purchases for active pilots and he’s got my vote! With only about 500,000 active pilots and maybe $60,000 for a plane, that’s only $30 billion - a rounding error on his proposal. Will no one think of the pilots?
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Free Avgas and aircraft purchases for active pilots and he’s got my vote! With only about 500,000 active pilots and maybe $60,000 for a plane, that’s only $30 billion - a rounding error on his proposal. Will no one think of the pilots?
Bernie is anti-Airmen. Boycott Bernie!
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Have you seen how the government runs the VA? People seriously want these people in charge of child care?