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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Number7 on August 12, 2017, 07:52:00 AM

Title: When Do Progressive Political Fantasies Threaten Freedom?
Post by: Number7 on August 12, 2017, 07:52:00 AM
So far this morning I have read of a congress woman's deluded ranting that the NRA is a national security threat, a hollyweird celebrity demanding that our generals overthrow the Trump administration and a judge ordering citizens speaking at a public hearing on the erection of a mosque that would violate city ordinances NOT to mention muslims, Islam, or use any reference about terrorism concerns on the threat of being jailed for contempt of court.

That's just in the last thirty minutes,

When does this insane ranting of liberal democrats and psychopathic progressives threaten liberty enough to justify forceful push back?

Here in Florida city officials are destroying civil war monuments, having children arrested for chewing pop tarts in unapproved designs and using red light cameras as revenue raising weapons, instead of public safety devices. These are all the brain children of liberalism gone wild.

I've always seen the escalation of idiocy as unavoidable but never dreamed mass psychosis would be so devoutly embraced as to create progressive echo chambers such our college campuses and places like google.

Unchecked something resembling the fourth reich will absolutely spread and become such an infection that only a devastating civil war will overcome it.
Title: Re: When Do Progressive Political Fantasies Threaten Freedom?
Post by: Lucifer on August 12, 2017, 08:32:30 AM
It's a mental disorder. 
Title: Re: When Do Progressive Political Fantasies Threaten Freedom?
Post by: Lucifer on August 12, 2017, 01:19:46 PM
When one realizes that the MSM has put more negative stories against Trump with regards to North Korea and barely puts out anything negative against Kim Jong Un, a dictator who is threatening the US, this should tell you everything.
Title: Re: When Do Progressive Political Fantasies Threaten Freedom?
Post by: bflynn on August 12, 2017, 05:29:12 PM
I ran across this gem today in a FB thread about the death penalty.  Here is a Progressive effectively arguing that if we had just exterminated all the Nazis before they had performed the Holocaust, then we would have prevented mass murder.

It is frankly scary knowing there are people like this out there ans scarier to think others might agree with them.

(http://www.pilotspin.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2293.0;attach=545)
Title: Re: When Do Progressive Political Fantasies Threaten Freedom?
Post by: Little Joe on August 13, 2017, 07:31:23 AM
I ran across this gem today in a FB thread about the death penalty.  Here is a Progressive effectively arguing that if we had just exterminated all the Nazis before they had performed the Holocaust, then we would have prevented mass murder.

It is frankly scary knowing there are people like this out there ans scarier to think others might agree with them.

(http://www.pilotspin.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2293.0;attach=545)
To be honest, I don't have a problem with what he wrote.  But maybe that is because I didn't see the part about exterminating Nazis BEFORE they performed the Holocaust.  We did kill a bunch of them later though.
Title: Re: When Do Progressive Political Fantasies Threaten Freedom?
Post by: bflynn on August 13, 2017, 11:28:10 AM
To be honest, I don't have a problem with what he wrote.  But maybe that is because I didn't see the part about exterminating Nazis BEFORE they performed the Holocaust.  We did kill a bunch of them later though.

So you would perform a mass murder of Nazis in order to stop them killing Jews? 

There were about 10 million Nazis.  Doesn't than make you the new mass murder?
Title: Re: When Do Progressive Political Fantasies Threaten Freedom?
Post by: Little Joe on August 13, 2017, 11:58:43 AM
So you would perform a mass murder of Nazis in order to stop them killing Jews? 

There were about 10 million Nazis.  Doesn't than make you the new mass murder?
I have no idea what you are talking about.  Show me where ANYBODY said anything about exterminating anyone before an event occurred.
Title: Re: When Do Progressive Political Fantasies Threaten Freedom?
Post by: Jim Logajan on August 13, 2017, 04:27:54 PM
I have no idea what you are talking about.  Show me where ANYBODY said anything about exterminating anyone before an event occurred.

Agreed - the quoted FB post doesn't seem to say what bflynn claims. Perhaps he quoted the wrong post or the thread context makes it clearer that was proposed. Otherwise the best I can make out is the person is proposing killing people because they are members of goups responsible for the deaths of others, even if they individually had no direct hand in any death. But that appears to be an after-the-fact penalty.
Title: Re: When Do Progressive Political Fantasies Threaten Freedom?
Post by: bflynn on August 13, 2017, 06:06:17 PM
Thread context - the post was about the death penalty and was talking about murdering people for the betterment of society. Because I read the post, the intent was very clear to me....not so much on only one post.

The "religious views" that this guy was complaining about was a belief that it is never just to kill a person for any reason.
Title: Re: When Do Progressive Political Fantasies Threaten Freedom?
Post by: Lucifer on August 13, 2017, 07:57:01 PM
Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.
Title: Re: When Do Progressive Political Fantasies Threaten Freedom?
Post by: bflynn on August 14, 2017, 03:25:55 PM
Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.

Again context is critical.  This is not a war.

Vengeance is mine sayeth the lord.  Not that you care....
Title: Re: When Do Progressive Political Fantasies Threaten Freedom?
Post by: Little Joe on August 14, 2017, 04:02:55 PM
Again context is critical.  This is not a war.

Vengeance is mine sayeth the lord.  Not that you care....
Maybe I'm dense, but I am still not quite sure what your point is.

For me, I have no problem killing certain people that need killing.  That guy up in Charlottesville for instance, needs killing.  But only for what he DID, not for what he might do.
Title: Re: When Do Progressive Political Fantasies Threaten Freedom?
Post by: asechrest on August 14, 2017, 09:21:15 PM
Maybe I'm dense, but I am still not quite sure what your point is.

For me, I have no problem killing certain people that need killing.  That guy up in Charlottesville for instance, needs killing.  But only for what he DID, not for what he might do.

I can no longer support the death penalty with the known and proven fallibility of our justice system.
Title: Re: When Do Progressive Political Fantasies Threaten Freedom?
Post by: Number7 on August 15, 2017, 07:30:56 AM
I can no longer support the death penalty with the known and proven fallibility of our justice system.

There are times I agree and times I do not.
Some people simply need killing. If that sounds mean, the so be it.
The people who throw gays off of roofs for being gay need killing as much as people who rape and murder children.
Dictators who gas their people need killing, not threatened, bribed, or extorted.
Title: Re: When Do Progressive Political Fantasies Threaten Freedom?
Post by: Anthony on August 15, 2017, 11:29:48 AM
Our Stukas will deal with them. 
Title: Re: When Do Progressive Political Fantasies Threaten Freedom?
Post by: invflatspin on August 15, 2017, 11:40:22 AM
There are times I agree and times I do not.
Some people simply need killing. If that sounds mean, the so be it.
The people who throw gays off of roofs for being gay need killing as much as people who rape and murder children.
Dictators who has their people need killing, not threatened, bribed, or extorted.

Vengeance is great, but it's too expensive. Cheaper to lock them up for +40 years with no medical services.
Title: Re: When Do Progressive Political Fantasies Threaten Freedom?
Post by: Little Joe on August 15, 2017, 11:55:27 AM
I can no longer support the death penalty with the known and proven fallibility of our justice system.
I don't recall you ever supporting the death penalty.
Or maybe that was just a bad assumption on my part due to your liberal leanings.
Title: Re: When Do Progressive Political Fantasies Threaten Freedom?
Post by: asechrest on August 15, 2017, 03:02:59 PM
I don't recall you ever supporting the death penalty.
Or maybe that was just a bad assumption on my part due to your liberal leanings.

It's been years but I did once support the death penalty.
Title: Re: When Do Progressive Political Fantasies Threaten Freedom?
Post by: Number7 on August 15, 2017, 03:30:15 PM
It's been years but I did once support the death penalty.

Far too often the death penalty is used to score political points, and /or pander.
Judges too often refuse to impose it based on factors that have no relationship to the crime and prosecutors seem to play the ame game when choosing to go for it, or not.

Casey Anthony comes to mind. What intelligent prosecutor puts a woman on trial for her life without a shred of serious evidence beyond the fact that the defendant was unlikable?

The TV has played a part in making the death penalty inconsistent and the activists tie carrying it out far too expensive.