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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 04, 2018, 08:45:30 AM

Title: Huge difference in blue v red
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 04, 2018, 08:45:30 AM
This just came clear to me after reading this #Walkaway testimonial. With Obama in 2008 and HRC in 2016, the DNC screwed their party members’ actual preferences, using Superdelegates and other strong arm tactics, and forced in the candidate the party preferred. Naturally, in 2008 and 2016, a lot of Dems were pissed. You see a lot of #WalkAway people leaving the party at those times, and hence voting for Trump.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/1945356878817544/permalink/2109742969045600/

Conversely, the RNC watched in horror as Trump rose through the ranks, and tried to redirect party members’ preferences, but as an organization the RNC eschewed using DNC shenanigans and let the Trump nomination occur and stand.

The RNC honored the people’s choice.  Says a lot, unless I’m missing something.
Title: Re: Huge difference in blue v red
Post by: Lucifer on September 04, 2018, 08:54:17 AM
This just came clear to me after reading this #Walkaway testimonial. With Obama in 2008 and HRC in 2016, the DNC screwed their party members’ actual preferences, using Superdelegates and other strong arm tactics, and forced in the candidate the party preferred. Naturally, in 2008 and 2016, a lot of Dems were pissed. You see a lot of #WalkAway people leaving the party at those times, and hence voting for Trump.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/1945356878817544/permalink/2109742969045600/

Conversely, the RNC watched in horror as Trump rose through the ranks, and tried to redirect party members’ preferences, but as an organization the RNC eschewed using DNC shenanigans and let the Trump nomination occur and stand.

The RNC honored the people’s choice.  Says a lot, unless I’m missing something.

 The RNC tried several underhanded attempts to thwart the Trump nomination.   The difference is the dems work closely in lockstep and will do anything the leadership wants, reasonable or unreasonable.

 The republicans are not lock step politicians, hence it's more difficult to try the cult follower actions the dems have perfected.
Title: Re: Huge difference in blue v red
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 05, 2018, 07:42:42 AM
I’ve also noticed that Republicans seem able to thrash around and disagree with each other, whereas Democrats seem more or less silent and lockstep within the ranks. Is there a Dem equivalent to the Tea Party?

I’ve observed over and over that Dems leave the room, literally, when difficult subjects come up. It’s like to hear another side of an issue is painful, like a high-pitched noise.

It’s worrisome that the far left has co-opted the Dems, and the whole middle/centrist bunch of Dems let it happen.

Yes, it’s just me STILL trying to figure out libs.  :(
Title: Re: Huge difference in blue v red
Post by: Lucifer on September 05, 2018, 07:47:51 AM
Just watch on this forum and others how the progressives won’t discuss anything, they resort to flame throwing and drive by’s.   It’s “their way or the highway” approach. 

They have let the alt left progressives (communist) seize control and apparently aren’t willing to cut the head off of the snake. 
Title: Re: Huge difference in blue v red
Post by: Anthony on September 05, 2018, 12:12:20 PM
Democrats do not tolerate anyone in the Party disagreeing with them on ANY issue.  They must be lock step.  Remember what happened when Cory Booker went off the reservation on ONE small item?  He was vilified, and ostracized, until he made an apology, and retraction.  He was told his career would turn to sh*t unless he did that, and he caved.  He wants party support for future office, including President.
Title: Re: Huge difference in blue v red
Post by: invflatspin on September 05, 2018, 01:34:48 PM
The left TALKS constantly about being 'inclusive' and welcoming all points of view. The right rarely if ever brings it up formally, but practices constantly. I'm the proof that on some subjects rabidly to the right and a few subjects rabidly to the left(abortion). The conservatives on the right let me hang around, and even break bread with me for the most part, and take my failings along with the rest. The right would never, ever accept my position on individual rights and capital markets being the best.

We are seeing it play out today in the SCOTUS hearings. A woman liberal sat down and unabashedly endorsed Kavanaugh, and by 2PM was being hounded by the entire left wing of the party for her 'betrayal'.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/05/lisa-blatt-kavanaugh/
Title: Re: Huge difference in blue v red
Post by: Lucifer on September 05, 2018, 02:47:21 PM
 'Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.'

-William F. Buckley
Title: Re: Huge difference in blue v red
Post by: azure on September 06, 2018, 02:05:56 PM
We are seeing it play out today in the SCOTUS hearings. A woman liberal sat down and unabashedly endorsed Kavanaugh, and by 2PM was being hounded by the entire left wing of the party for her 'betrayal'.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/05/lisa-blatt-kavanaugh/

Kudos to Ms. Blatt. I haven't heard any valid reason so far to vote against Kavanaugh (though I haven't yet heard any of what has happened today). He is completely qualified, believes in an independent judiciary, and has a coherent philosophy of law. I say confirm him - yes, I'm pro choice too so I am not looking forward to what will come of his tenure on the court. But POTUS gets to name the candidate, and I don't think the Senate should play politics with his choice.

Then again, I was against their decision not to hold hearings on Garland too.
Title: Re: Huge difference in blue v red
Post by: Little Joe on September 06, 2018, 02:27:20 PM
I was listening to a clip of the hearing on the radio.  I'm not sure who the Senator questioning him was, but he was probably a Republican who pitched a slow curve, and Kavanaugh hit it out of the park.

The question was regarding a decision for which Kavanaugh wrote the majority opinion.  It was the case of Osama Bin Laden's driver.  The evidence was submitted and the justices determined in the driver's favor.  The Senator asked "how could you do that considering WHO this person was and what he was part of".  He continued on talking about how horrible it was that Kavanaugh ruled in favor of this person that repulsed everyone.  Kavanaugh's answer was an unashamed statement that he followed the law as it was written.  Justice is equal for everyone and is not meted out based on how much we like the person.

The questioning Senator then praised him and asked a generic question of those against him.  If he (Kavanaugh) will follow the law, even when the accused is from Bin Laden's inner circle, then how can people say he will rule against poor minorities because he is a racist?

It all sounded better live than with my poor interpretation.
Title: Re: Huge difference in blue v red
Post by: invflatspin on September 06, 2018, 03:25:07 PM
Another notch in the 'win' column for those inclusive liberals.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/06/wyoming-gop-office-fire/

Title: Re: Huge difference in blue v red
Post by: Number7 on September 06, 2018, 08:18:27 PM
Another notch in the 'win' column for those inclusive liberals.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/06/wyoming-gop-office-fire/

The true indicator that your side lost is when your side decides to burn, beat, censor and attack the winning side an for no other reason than you think you are entitled to win. hilary's supporters proved that beginning late at night on election night and have hurried to remind us ever since.

The sheer hatred of the democrats against all the rest of us is unprecedented and belongs in a third world shit hole like California...