Post by: nddons on April 13, 2016, 08:44:32 AM
Yesterday I pulled up KLAS, and was struck by the volume of MOAs and especially restricted airspace. How in the hell do you guys fly around there? Do you see such air space expanding over the years? What a pain in the ass.
The massive space north of LAS for Nellis is interesting. The MOAs seem to generally go from 100' AGL to 18,000' MSL, SR to SS Mon-Sat. Geeze, that's quite a restriction to GA flight! (Yes, I know it's not always active, you can fly through an MOA, etc.).
Has anyone heard about what happens if someone accidentally wandered over to, say, Groom Lake?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 13, 2016, 08:50:15 AM
Saturday I went from KISM to KSGJ. That was fun.
Post by: nddons on April 13, 2016, 08:56:15 AM
Ever been down to Florida? ;DI've never flow there, but when I got my PP in North Carolina near Charlotte, I was totally intimidated about going to First Flight airport because of that massive system of restricted airspace, and thus never went there.
Saturday I went from KISM to KSGJ. That was fun.
Post by: Little Joe on April 13, 2016, 10:06:57 AM
Ever been down to Florida? ;DI fly that area all the time. With the exception of P50 restricted air space at the Sub base, I almost never have to detour around them. They are usually cold, and even if one or two areas are hot, that is still not a huge obstacle.
Saturday I went from KISM to KSGJ. That was fun.
Even when we flew FL to CA navigating the MOAs etc was generally easier than trying to fly around the mountains.
(edit to add the "0" to "P5" (ie: P50)
Post by: Mr Pou on April 13, 2016, 11:40:53 AM
Ever been down to Florida? ;D
Saturday I went from KISM to KSGJ. That was fun.
More interesting is flying in the panhandle of FL near DTS and Eglin. I just file to make it a whole lot easier.
Post by: Jaybird180 on April 13, 2016, 11:55:23 AM
I've never flow there, but when I got my PP in North Carolina near Charlotte, I was totally intimidated about going to First Flight airport because of that massive system of restricted airspace, and thus never went there.My first GA flight was as a left seat Pax to FFA. I flew most of the return trip.
Post by: nddons on April 13, 2016, 12:23:36 PM
My first GA flight was as a left seat Pax to FFL. I flew most of the return trip.Where did you fly from?
Edit: Oh, duh. Probably from the North.
From the South it makes it damned hard to fly the coast.
Post by: Jaybird180 on April 13, 2016, 01:46:03 PM
Where did you fly from?
Edit: Oh, duh. Probably from the North.
From the South it makes it damned hard to fly the coast.
Nope. And I need to make a correction. The trip was KOAJ-KFFA.
That was in 2000 or early 01. Ignorance was bliss.
Post by: nddons on April 13, 2016, 02:22:32 PM
I did my dual cross country to Wilmington KILM. I flew out of Monroe KEQY.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 13, 2016, 02:53:10 PM
Post by: Anthony on April 14, 2016, 04:21:55 AM