PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on June 09, 2017, 10:56:17 AM
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Of course we'll be told this (a) really didn't happen, (b) is an isolated case, makes no difference, or (c) "It's Trump's collusion with the Russians!!"
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/09/canvassers-for-dem-tied-group-charged-in-voter-registration-fraud-scheme.html
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But voter fraud doesn't exist!!! There is no need for voter I.D.!!!
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This is registration fraud. Happens a lot. Also another reason to go to an automatic system.
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But voter fraud doesn't exist!!! There is no need for voter I.D.!!!
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Voter ID does nothing for this.
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Voter ID does nothing for this.
Well when the "faux" voter shows up with the "faux" registration to vote, wouldn't a real I.D. stop that?
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Well when the "faux" voter shows up with the "faux" registration to vote, wouldn't a real I.D. stop that?
He is right, the second step of this would be to get an absentee ballot. No real person + absentee ballot= Democrat win
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It is so hard for libs to connect the dots, which is why liberals are so lost in And continue claiming our economy is a zero sum game.
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Well when the "faux" voter shows up with the "faux" registration to vote, wouldn't a real I.D. stop that?
No, because in-person voter impersonation is incredibly rare. Mail in and absentee ballot fraud should be much more concerning to you, and most (all?) voter ID laws do not address this.
PS - And it still doesn't address the issue of the bogus registration.
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No, because in-person voter impersonation is incredibly rare. Mail in and absentee ballot fraud should be much more concerning to you, and most (all?) voter ID laws do not address this.
PS - And it still doesn't address the issue of the bogus registration.
So let me see if I understand this. A person shows up at the polls to vote and has a voter registration card. We now ask for an ID (driver's license, state ID, military ID, passport) to verify this person is the one that is also on the voter registration card, and you have a problem with that?
To me that stops bogus registration in its tracks.
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So let me see if I understand this. A person shows up at the polls to vote and has a voter registration card. We now ask for an ID (driver's license, state ID, military ID, passport) to verify this person is the one that is also on the voter registration card, and you have a problem with that?
To me that stops bogus registration in its tracks.
You know my position on voter ID already.
And no, it doesn't stop bogus registration. Many of these arise out of quotas for canvassers or payment based on number of registrations. If a canvass company continues to use those dubious methods of payment, voter ID will not stop these instances from cropping up. They'll still submit the registrations. And since few if any turn into in-person voter impersonation -- rather, absentee and mail in voting is more rife for fraud -- we haven't really addressed the issue at all. We'd need to be talking about ID to register or absentee vote, and I don't know of any of the ID laws that do that.
Voter ID AND auto registration fixes all these things. That is exactly what I want.
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few if any turn into in-person voter impersonation
I don't think that can be stated one way or another. There is no system in place to detect in-person voter impersonation, so the quantity is unknown. It is incomprehensible to me for anyone to say that we know there are people who broke the law with false registrations, but none of them took it to the next step and voted. Why would anyone break the law for no gain?
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I don't think that can be stated one way or another. There is no system in place to detect in-person voter impersonation, so the quantity is unknown. It is incomprehensible to me for anyone to say that we know there are people who broke the law with false registrations, but none of them took it to the next step and voted. Why would anyone break the law for no gain?
As I said, most voter registration fraud arises because canvassers have quotas or are paid by number of registrations. And we do have an ability to detect in person impersonation. Granted, it's not robust, but is detectable.
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As I said, most voter registration fraud arises because canvassers have quotas or are paid by number of registrations. And we do have an ability to detect in person impersonation. Granted, it's not robust, but is detectable.
you will have to explain what you mean - there is no way to identify someone voting a false registration when identity is not established.