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Title: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Number7 on November 08, 2022, 06:20:44 PM
8:20 PM.

Going about like I expected.

In Florida DeSantis kicking charlie crist's ass.

Rubio doing a bit better than expected.

val demings is a piss poor candidate under the best of circumstances.

PA, AZ, WI, all magically having problems...

Fuck the communist party who call themselves democrats.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 08, 2022, 06:46:24 PM
DeSantis and Rubio called for Florida.

Sarah Huckabee Sanders called as AR Governor.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Number7 on November 08, 2022, 07:03:40 PM
demings got her head handed to her in a race she was supposed to be nearly tied.

Chameleon charlie crist is claiming the entire majority of is due to republican gerrymandering.
If that isn’t the pot calling the kettle black, I don’t know what is.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 08, 2022, 07:07:34 PM
demings got her head handed to her in a race she was supposed to be nearly tied.

Chameleon charlie crist is claiming the entire majority of is due to republican gerrymandering.
If that isn’t the pot calling the kettle black, I don’t know what is.
If you’re in the majority of the state legislature, it’s called redistricting. If you’re in the minority it’s called gerrymandering.

Fuck the democrats.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Number7 on November 08, 2022, 07:09:01 PM
The communist democrats are the kings of gerrymandering and the moment voters turn them out they blame republican gerrymandering. What projecting assholes.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: jb1842 on November 08, 2022, 07:14:07 PM
DeSantis is destroying the left in his victory speech. He's my vote in 2024.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 08, 2022, 07:16:05 PM
DeSantis is destroying the left in his victory speech. He's my vote in 2024.
1000%.

Kari Lake as VP.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: jb1842 on November 08, 2022, 07:20:19 PM
1000%.

Kari Lake as VP.

I agree.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 08, 2022, 07:51:25 PM
demings got her head handed to her in a race she was supposed to be nearly tied.

Chameleon charlie crist is claiming the entire majority of is due to republican gerrymandering.
If that isn’t the pot calling the kettle black, I don’t know what is.
I'm missing something here, Governor is a state wide race.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 08, 2022, 08:06:46 PM
I'm missing something here, Governor is a state wide race.
It’s democrat math.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 08, 2022, 08:07:41 PM
Over 1.1 MILLION Pennsylvanians have voted for brain dead Fetterman. What the fuck is wrong with those people?
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Number7 on November 08, 2022, 08:40:47 PM
Over 1.1 MILLION Pennsylvanians have voted for brain dead Fetterman. What the fuck is wrong with those people?

How many of those are legitimate votes cast by real voters?
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 08, 2022, 09:17:53 PM
Fox just called it for JD Vance. Ryan conceded. Pickup.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 08, 2022, 10:38:15 PM
Another brilliant move by libertarians. Chase Oliver got 2% of the GA vote, so neither Warnock or Walker  will get 50% thus forcing a runoff. Well done.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 08, 2022, 11:02:01 PM
Brain dead Fetterman defeated Oz. Way to go, Donald. Great pick. King maker my ass.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Jim Logajan on November 08, 2022, 11:51:57 PM
Brain dead Fetterman defeated Oz. Way to go, Donald. Great pick. King maker my ass.

You forgot to blame the Libertarians.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 09, 2022, 12:06:36 AM
You forgot to blame the Libertarians.
I only do that when they fuck up a race. They didn’t do that in PA. Oz did that all by himself.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Anthony on November 09, 2022, 03:34:22 AM
Brain dead Fetterman defeated Oz. Way to go, Donald. Great pick. King maker my ass.

PA is lost. It's now part of the Northeast Fasco-Communist block. The cities and burbs totally control the Commonwealth.  We have become NJ, MD. MA, CT ,NY, RI, etc.

The brainwashed Tesla drivers have taken over the affluent burbs, like my area.  You should see these self important fucks. What Woke assholes.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Lucifer on November 09, 2022, 06:04:43 AM
And as predicted, the states that didn't fix their election laws saw once again cheating and fraud.   

We now have a mentally impaired senator elect, and a incompetent governor in PA.   Michigan is yet another loss as one of the worst governors ever gets "re-elected".   NY keeps the shitshow alive with their governor race.

 And Arizona.  The RINOs fought hard with their democrat friends to keep election integrity out of their state, and we are seeing the results unfold.

  If you think the first two years under FJB were bad, you ain't seen nuthin' yet.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Rush on November 09, 2022, 06:11:34 AM
Election Day there was a blood moon eclipse, moon conjunct Uranus with a Saturn square and Mercury cazimi, and the U.S. is undergoing its Pluto return. 

Make of that what you will.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Lucifer on November 09, 2022, 06:19:43 AM
Florida led the way in showing the rest of the country how to run a statewide election.

The division now grows wider between the free states and the democrat shitholes.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Number7 on November 09, 2022, 07:28:25 AM
Everywhere that the Republican didn’t win but should have just happens to be a shit hole state that refuses to secure elections…
What a shock!
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Anthony on November 09, 2022, 07:38:44 AM
Florida led the way in showing the rest of the country how to run a statewide election.

The division now grows wider between the free states and the democrat shitholes.

That's why I need to get out of PA and head to SD or WY.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Rush on November 09, 2022, 07:52:38 AM
Everywhere that the Republican didn’t win but should have just happens to be a shot old state that refuses to secure elections…
What a shock!

Same states that “Biden won” in 2020 which everyone damn well knows he didn’t. 

There wasn’t enough republican turnout to overcome the cheating, or the cheaters have upped their game.  I’m not sure which, but I do know if not for the unconstitutional mail in ballots and the programmable vote machines and the corrupt as fuck election commissions these states wouldn’t get away with it.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Lucifer on November 09, 2022, 08:43:39 AM
Same states that “Biden won” in 2020 which everyone damn well knows he didn’t. 

There wasn’t enough republican turnout to overcome the cheating, or the cheaters have upped their game.  I’m not sure which, but I do know if not for the unconstitutional mail in ballots and the programmable vote machines and the corrupt as fuck election commissions these states wouldn’t get away with it.

 Each election cycle the democrat communist up their game, and refine it.   I mentioned earlier this year the dims weren't concerned about the midterms, and everyone had to wonder why?.   Here it is.

 They focus on the blue shitholes, and the RINO free states to manipulate bad voting laws.  By stretching out counting by days (or weeks) they can figure out where to harvest ballots to get their people elected.   Throw in ballot harvesting, corrupt voting machines and a few other tricks, they control the election.

  The republicans will hold congress, but with a weak McCarthy as Speaker.  The RINO's will control the agenda, and expect McCarthy to capitulate to the communist demands.

  IOW's, FJB's cabal retains control.

  If you think the previous two years were bad, you ain't seen nuthin' yet.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 09, 2022, 09:21:48 AM
When you can precision target precincts, delay results, and cheat in the hundreds of thousands, your opponent never can turn out in high enough numbers to defeat you.

The WEF is freely stealing elections worldwide.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Rush on November 09, 2022, 09:34:13 AM
AZ and PA are cheating and EVERYONE FUCKING KNOWS IT.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Lucifer on November 09, 2022, 09:43:44 AM
AZ and PA are cheating and EVERYONE FUCKING KNOWS IT.

  Problem is the UniParty in DC knows and approves it.   And the republicans are too weak to stop it.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 09, 2022, 09:56:59 AM
Everywhere that the Republican didn’t win but should have just happens to be a shit hole state that refuses to secure elections…
What a shock!
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221109/1932d13335753db94a9f30b4a764db0f.jpg)
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 09, 2022, 10:36:16 AM
An upbeat take.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/c-and-c-news-wednesday-november-9
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 09, 2022, 11:12:56 AM
all the alarmism about the red wave was kind of like the lead up to the debates between the clown and President Trump.

To beat expectations, all the clown had to do was not pee himself (noticably) and make it on and off stage without too much assistance.

Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Username on November 09, 2022, 11:22:25 AM
I checked the news too soon.  All the MSM is abuzzing with how HISTORIC this midterm election was.  That the democrats didn't lose by much more than they should have.  Massive wonderful referendum on FJB's policies.  I guess two weeks of this and then they kick off the president race for 2024.  Maybe he'll hide in his bunker for two years.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on November 09, 2022, 11:40:19 AM
Over 1.1 MILLION Pennsylvanians have voted for brain dead Fetterman. What the fuck is wrong with those people?

They are also brain dead
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Anthony on November 09, 2022, 12:15:01 PM
They are also brain dead

And drive Teslas. Don't ask me how I know.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Rush on November 09, 2022, 12:38:27 PM
An upbeat take.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/c-and-c-news-wednesday-november-9

Thanks that makes me feel better.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Number7 on November 09, 2022, 01:05:04 PM
It amazes me that no one is blaming mitch - fucking - mcconnell for actively undercutting Republican Senate Candidates in the weeks leading up to the mid term,
pretending that it is all Donal Trump's fault.

mitch the bitch, actively tried to cause republicans to lose because eh was afraid new senators wouldn't vote him back as majority leader, but it's all Trump's fault according to stupid people.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 09, 2022, 01:23:38 PM
It amazes me that no one is blaming mitch - fucking - mcconnell for actively undercutting Republican Senate Candidates in the weeks leading up to the mid term,
pretending that it is all Donal Trump's fault.

mitch the bitch, actively tried to cause republicans to lose because eh was afraid new senators wouldn't vote him back as majority leader, but it's all Trump's fault according to stupid people.
You look stupid when you use the word “all.”  McConnell and McCarthy have a shit ton of blame. They weren’t just awol, they were conspiracists in these defeats. 

My blame of Trump is specific, based on specific things he has said and done, or not done. He thought his endorsement alone was enough to secure victory for his chosen candidates, so didn’t fund their campaigns like the left wing billionaires did with their opponents. He may think he’s good, but he ain’t that good that he can overcome other power brokers on the other side.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Rush on November 09, 2022, 02:12:51 PM
The most succinct, accurate and cogent analysis of the midterms I’ve seen:

Quote
WASHINGTON, D.C. — Amid record discontent around the economy, inflation, and education, the Republican Party has narrowly managed to stave off what many thought would be a record-breaking red wave.

"This was a close call," said one Republican leader in Washington. "We were worried that we would achieve massive victories tonight, but we thankfully snatched defeat from the jaws of victory to achieve a much more proper and sensible red trickle, like the proper gentlemen we are."

Some Republicans achieved major victories, which were largely ignored by party leadership due to the fact that those Republicans were loud and icky "MEGA-MAGA" culture warriors. "Ron DeSantis won by double digits, and frankly, we find that quite uncouth," said a D.C. consultant while holding up a glass of red trickle victory champagne. "Everyone knows the key to being a good Republican is to muddle your message and make it really squishy so no one knows what you stand for and everyone will like you. Duh!"

Everyone in the room then golf-clapped politely.

At publishing time, Republican strategists were researching ways to keep their power in D.C. without achieving so much power that they'd actually have to become compelling leaders.



https://babylonbee.com/news/republican-party-staves-off-red-wave
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 09, 2022, 02:38:59 PM
"At publishing time, Republican strategists were researching ways to keep their power in D.C. without achieving so much power that they'd actually have to become compelling leaders."

that about sums it up...

Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 09, 2022, 02:40:22 PM
The most succinct, accurate and cogent analysis of the midterms I’ve seen:



https://babylonbee.com/news/republican-party-staves-off-red-wave
Almost not funny because it is so accurate.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 09, 2022, 02:47:53 PM
There was a point after the 2020 steal where Trump had the option of creating a new party. It would have been epic, I think, and would have brought real change. But he chose to stay with and support the Republican Party.

A mistake, IMHO.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Rush on November 09, 2022, 02:49:41 PM
Almost not funny because it is so accurate.

Exactly.  The only thing missing is the roll of Democrat cheaters but you can argue the Republicans could have done more to stop it, although maybe not.  Some tried, too many let it happen.  Anyone involved in Covid lockdowns and mail in ballots or Dominion machines is culpable.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 09, 2022, 04:51:51 PM
https://babylonbee.com/news/nation-unsure-whether-to-support-party-that-runs-brain-damaged-candidates-and-party-that-loses-to-brain-damaged-candidates
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: jb1842 on November 09, 2022, 05:00:43 PM
Trump needs to shut up and go away. He sounds nothing more than a bitter old man right now. He will do more harm than good in 24.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Little Joe on November 09, 2022, 05:22:08 PM
Trump needs to shut up and go away. He sounds nothing more than a bitter old man right now. He will do more harm than good in 24.
Do you mean like he kept Rs from gaining ground in Congress in both 2020 and 2022?
Dems hate Trump.
Independents hate Trump.
Rinos hate Trump.
Feminists hate Trump.
And they redirect all that hate against all conservatives.
Despite all of his good points, he is single handedly giving this country to the liberals because of his ego.  He needs to go away.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 09, 2022, 05:32:08 PM
Sometimes a person needs to realize when they are being net positive influence and when they are being a net negative influence.

Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 09, 2022, 05:35:45 PM
I love how AP called the Massachusetts Gov race with less than 5% of the vote counted...

Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 09, 2022, 05:41:32 PM
Do you mean like he kept Rs from gaining ground in Congress in both 2020 and 2022?
Dems hate Trump.
Independents hate Trump.
Rinos hate Trump.
Feminists hate Trump.
And they redirect all that hate against all conservatives.
Despite all of his good points, he is single handedly giving this country to the liberals because of his ego.  He needs to go away.

I see your point, but they’ll continue to redirect their hate against all true conservatives and Patriots no matter who steps up as a Republican. The brainwashing is that deep.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Rush on November 09, 2022, 05:49:41 PM
Trump might be losing his filter.  An old age thing.  If he keeps doing stuff like that I’ll switch to DeSantis too although I’m not yet convinced DeSantis is right either.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Lucifer on November 09, 2022, 05:53:48 PM
I see your point, but they’ll continue to redirect their hate against all true conservatives and Patriots no matter who steps up as a Republican. The brainwashing is that deep.

  Yep.

   And you think they went after Trump, just wait till they turn their anger towards DeSantis.

   DeSantis has the fortitude to stand up against the democrat communist, and has no problem calling them what they are, just like Trump.

  But DeSantis is a nice guy, and not a street fighter.  He's a skilled politician that attracts minorities and hispanics, thus the democrat communist will hate him even more, and with furor.

  DeSantis is a bigger threat to the DC's.   They will act accordingly.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Rush on November 09, 2022, 06:04:12 PM
  Yep.

   And you think they went after Trump, just wait till they turn their anger towards DeSantis.

   DeSantis has the fortitude to stand up against the democrat communist, and has no problem calling them what they are, just like Trump.

  But DeSantis is a nice guy, and not a street fighter.  He's a skilled politician that attracts minorities and hispanics, thus the democrat communist will hate him even more, and with furor.

  DeSantis is a bigger threat to the DC's.   They will act accordingly.

I worry about this too.  We think getting rid of Trump will get rid of the problem, but like Trump said, it isn’t him or DeSantis or any politician, it’s US they hate.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 09, 2022, 06:21:06 PM
I worry about this too.  We think getting rid of Trump will get rid of the problem, but like Trump said, it isn’t him or DeSantis or any politician, it’s US they hate.

I’m reading that candidates say the RINO swamp hates MAGA … and MAGA is the American people. RNC is RINO swamp … essentially just in league with Dems.

Look how the swamp has tried to demonize MAGA … what? The only reason they would not want to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN is if doing so disturbs their own agenda, when in fact they’re there to serve us.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Little Joe on November 09, 2022, 06:21:32 PM
I worry about this too.  We think getting rid of Trump will get rid of the problem, but like Trump said, it isn’t him or DeSantis or any politician, it’s US they hate.
That's an excuse.  Trump goes out of his way to make people hate him, and by proxy, us.  Yeah, hard core liberals are going to hate anyone that isn't hard core liberal, but there are a lot of people that would vote for a conservative if they didn't hate Trump so much.

I've had this opinion for a long time, but when he called Ron DeSantis "Ron De Sanctimonious, he absolutely proved that he only cares about himself.  Not the country.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 09, 2022, 06:44:13 PM
But look, it’s divide and conquer.

They’ve divided us, MAGA (swamp free and for the people) vs RNC (swamp controlled)

We need a new, true American party.

I’m still getting begging emails from RNC. It’s grift. RNC money doesn’t go to true Patriots.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Lucifer on November 09, 2022, 07:24:41 PM
But look, it’s divide and conquer.

They’ve divided us, MAGA (swamp free and for the people) vs RNC (swamp controlled)

We need a new, true American party.

I’m still getting begging emails from RNC. It’s grift. RNC money doesn’t go to true Patriots.

  But Becky, if we just run someone else, anybody, the dims will coalesce around us and the country will unite!!

  Kumbaya for everyone!!
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 09, 2022, 07:38:16 PM
I see your point, but they’ll continue to redirect their hate against all true conservatives and Patriots no matter who steps up as a Republican. The brainwashing is that deep.
This is true. They will assign all those traits to DeSantis. Unlike Trump, DeSantis has a thicker skin, and brings military precision to his work as Florida’s CEO.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Lucifer on November 09, 2022, 07:43:23 PM
This is true. They will assign all those traits to DeSantis. Unlike Trump, DeSantis has a thicker skin, and brings military precision to his work as Florida’s CEO.

  They haven't gone after DeSantis's family yet, nor have they started the bimbo parade.  They have kept their powder dry.

  They also haven't manufactured any scandals that he's supposedly involved in.   It's coming, and with a vengeance.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 09, 2022, 07:49:05 PM
  They haven't gone after DeSantis's family yet, nor have they started the bimbo parade.  They have kept their powder dry.

  They also haven't manufactured any scandals that he's supposedly involved in.   It's coming, and with a vengeance.
Actually, Trump started that ball rolling.  Their powder is in the flash pan.



https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-unflattering-information-florida-ron-desantis-2024-2022-11
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Lucifer on November 09, 2022, 08:14:42 PM
https://rumble.com/v1stpm0-midterm-results-day-two-various-takeaways.html
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Number7 on November 09, 2022, 08:29:29 PM
All the anger and bullshit being slung against Donald Trump is mostly because people are falling for the bullshit being fed to them by the nets and other forms of communists. When everything is filtered to the benefit of the queer mafia and foreign enemies, many fall for it and start blabbering like fucking magpies. It’s how lefties keep the rest of the country under their thumb,

I’m sick of fake republicans repeating the lefty bullshit, while pretending to be thinking freely.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 09, 2022, 08:35:16 PM
All the anger and bullshit being slung against Donald Trump is mostly because people are falling for the bullshit being fed to them by the nets and other forms of communists. When everything is filtered to the benefit of the queer mafia and foreign enemies, many fall for it and start blabbering like fucking magpies. It’s how lefties keep the rest of the country under their thumb,

I’m sick of fake republicans repeating the lefty bullshit, while pretending to be thinking freely.
Or, some of us don’t have hearing aids and we can hear Trump try to destroy Republicans with our own ears.

Some of us aren’t jock sniffers and can judge and critique people for ourselves. But sure, go ahead and think how we are being mislead by fake news if it helps you sleep better at night.  Enjoy the musty smell.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Number7 on November 09, 2022, 08:44:54 PM
Or, some of us don’t have hearing aids and we can hear Trump try to destroy Republicans with our own ears.

Some of us aren’t jock sniffers and can judge and critique people for ourselves. But sure, go ahead and think how we are being mislead by fake news if it helps you sleep better at night.  Enjoy the musty smell.

Go ahead.
Keep fucking lying and pretending you thought any of your shit show up by yourself.

You’re being managed by the same people that have the press writing the exact same talking points and pretending they’re valid.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Jim Logajan on November 09, 2022, 10:23:57 PM
Meanwhile...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/nov/09/pennsylvania-dead-democrat-tony-deluca-victory (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/nov/09/pennsylvania-dead-democrat-tony-deluca-victory)

Democrat re-elected by a landslide in Pennsylvania – even though he’s dead

A longtime Pennsylvania state representative was re-elected in a landslide – even though he died last month.

Democrat Anthony “Tony” DeLuca, Pennsylvania’s longest-serving state representative, was the choice in more than 85% of votes cast.

DeLuca, 85, died on 9 October from lymphoma, a disease he had twice previously fended off.

By the time of his death it was too late to change the ballot or put forth another candidate for his seat. While his opponent, Green candidate Queonia “Zarah” Livingston, accounted for more than 14% of the vote, DeLuca’s victory has triggered a special election that will be held on a later date.

“While we’re incredibly saddened by the loss of Representative Tony DeLuca, we are proud to see the voters continue to show their confidence in him and his commitment to Democratic values by re-electing him posthumously,” the Pennsylvania House Democratic campaign committee said in a tweet.


Personally I think it is a tragedy that there will be a special election because a dead unresponsive representative is a libertarian ideal.


Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Little Joe on November 10, 2022, 04:28:18 AM
Go ahead.
Keep fucking lying and pretending you thought any of your shit show up by yourself.

You’re being managed by the same people that have the press writing the exact same talking points and pretending they’re valid.
:D
And people wonder why so few people stick around this site.  Who wants to converse with idiots?
Stan is no more being managed by the press than I think that Hillary is a leader.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Rush on November 10, 2022, 04:41:47 AM
Actually, Trump started that ball rolling.  Their powder is in the flash pan.



https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-unflattering-information-florida-ron-desantis-2024-2022-11

I’d have to hear him say that with my own ears.  Not saying he didn’t say it, I’m saying I want to hear it myself to get the tone and context.  I don’t know why he would make preemptive attacks on DeSantis other than to intimidate him into not running in 2024, but DeSantis has made no signal he is going to run.  I want to know exactly why Trump thinks DeSantis is sanctimonious.  And why does he say such things if he says there is no tiff going on between them?  And he backed him and got him elected as governor of Florida unless I misremembered.  What did DeSantis do that made Trump turn on him?  None of this makes any sense unless I’m missing a critical piece of information.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Rush on November 10, 2022, 05:23:46 AM
https://rumble.com/v1stpm0-midterm-results-day-two-various-takeaways.html

And day three.  Why the red wave turned into a red trickle:

https://rumble.com/v1t5zci-midterm-results-day-three-epic-cope-ft.-gop-leaders-centrally-to-blame.html
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 10, 2022, 05:39:35 AM
:D
And people wonder why so few people stick around this site.  Who wants to converse with idiots?
Stan is no more being managed by the press than I think that Hillary is a leader.

well, some aren't here because they insist on being coddled and can't stand to hear any dissenting views... regardless of how eloquently or crassly expressed.


Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Number7 on November 10, 2022, 06:13:58 AM
The same people who whine like bitches because they hit their feelings hurt are being managed by the media like lemmings.
Every talking point is being repeated like the gospel as the fucking left manipulate the pussies to submarine Trump.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 10, 2022, 06:18:43 AM
Go ahead.
Keep fucking lying and pretending you thought any of your shit show up by yourself.

You’re being managed by the same people that have the press writing the exact same talking points and pretending they’re valid.
None are so blind as those who will not see.
Jeremiah 5:21
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 10, 2022, 06:28:04 AM
I’d have to hear him say that with my own ears.  Not saying he didn’t say it, I’m saying I want to hear it myself to get the tone and context.  I don’t know why he would make preemptive attacks on DeSantis other than to intimidate him into not running in 2024, but DeSantis has made no signal he is going to run.  I want to know exactly why Trump thinks DeSantis is sanctimonious.  And why does he say such things if he says there is no tiff going on between them?  And he backed him and got him elected as governor of Florida unless I misremembered.  What did DeSantis do that made Trump turn on him?  None of this makes any sense unless I’m missing a critical piece of information.
I think Trump believes that anyone that he endorsed must pay tribute to him for the rest of their lives.  Kind of like the mafia.

Add to that that Trump should know DeSantis would be the toughest challenger that Trump has ever seen, and it makes sense that he’s trying to cut him at the knees before he gets a full head of steam.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 10, 2022, 06:32:24 AM
I’m impressed that Marjorie Taylor Green won re-election with 66% of the vote.

I would vote for MTG as Speaker. Can you imagine the heads that would be splitting if that happened?
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Lucifer on November 10, 2022, 06:34:27 AM

And people wonder why so few people stick around this site.  Who wants to converse with idiots?


  Still butthurt I see.   ::)
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Anthony on November 10, 2022, 06:36:03 AM
You look stupid when you use the word “all.”  McConnell and McCarthy have a shit ton of blame. They weren’t just awol, they were conspiracists in these defeats. 

My blame of Trump is specific, based on specific things he has said and done, or not done. He thought his endorsement alone was enough to secure victory for his chosen candidates, so didn’t fund their campaigns like the left wing billionaires did with their opponents. He may think he’s good, but he ain’t that good that he can overcome other power brokers on the other side.

We're up against a Global cabal with limitless funding.  Trump can't do it all.  The fact that Fetterman won election is very telling.  Yes, it is probably due to election fraud and corruption but he's in.  A stroke, a horrible image, destructive policies in a time of extreme inflation, an energy crisis and a tanking economy never seen since the 70's or even 30's and he still won.  Think about that.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Anthony on November 10, 2022, 06:38:09 AM
:D
And people wonder why so few people stick around this site.  Who wants to converse with idiots?
Stan is no more being managed by the press than I think that Hillary is a leader.

All it takes is a LITTLE self-discipline to not react or ignore a post or poster.  But I hear you and it is what it is, either CHOOSE to be offended and leave or not.  It IS your choice.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Lucifer on November 10, 2022, 06:40:53 AM
We're up against a Global cabal with limitless funding.  Trump can't do it all.  The fact that Fetterman won election is very telling.  Yes, it is probably due to election fraud and corruption but he's in.  A stroke, a horrible image, destructive policies in a time of extreme inflation, an energy crisis and a tanking economy never seen since the 70's or even 30's and he still won.  Think about that.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/msnbc-host-floats-john-fetterman-presidential-candidate-yes-really/
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 10, 2022, 06:47:30 AM
I think Trump believes that anyone that he endorsed must pay tribute to him for the rest of their lives.  Kind of like the mafia.

Add to that that Trump should know DeSantis would be the toughest challenger that Trump has ever seen, and it makes sense that he’s trying to cut him at the knees before he gets a full head of steam.
Here’s som proof of this, Rush. This article has links of where Trump said some of these things.

Trump Attacks DeSantis: I Got More Votes Than Him, Needs To Be ‘More Gracious’ To Me. I Won His Primary.
 https://www.dailywire.com/news/trump-attacks-desantis-i-got-more-votes-than-him-needs-to-be-more-gracious-to-me-i-won-his-primary
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Bamaflyer on November 10, 2022, 07:00:18 AM
Here’s som proof of this, Rush. This article has links of where Trump said some of these things.

Trump Attacks DeSantis: I Got More Votes Than Him, Needs To Be ‘More Gracious’ To Me. I Won His Primary.
 https://www.dailywire.com/news/trump-attacks-desantis-i-got-more-votes-than-him-needs-to-be-more-gracious-to-me-i-won-his-primary

What is wrong with this guy! Man talk about an ego!
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Lucifer on November 10, 2022, 07:04:03 AM
Daily Wire is a Ben Shapiro outfit, so take it FWIW.

Just Saying.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Number7 on November 10, 2022, 07:05:22 AM
The uniparty is managing the narrative and the “Trump said mean things,” crowd is sucking it up like milk from mommy’s nipple.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 10, 2022, 08:26:35 AM
AZ counties holding off until they see Maricopa’s count. Election fraud is rare, but all the means to prevent it in Florida worked. Paul Ryan saying RNC should prevent Trump from running. MSNBC this morning talking about Fetterman for President.

Anyone seen the movie “Being There?”

Come on!!! Trump is toxic to the swamp goons because HE CALLS ALL THIS OUT!!!! It’s divide and conquer, an easy strategy to use on conservatives because we all stick to our individual fucking beliefs. We need to get Catholic about this and unite behind ONE PERSON who will DO WHAT TRUMP DID and who can stay standing when the swamp nukes him.

Goodness, truth, beauty and freedom, not to mention MERE SURVIVAL, are at stake!!!

Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 10, 2022, 08:34:02 AM
Daily Wire is a Ben Shapiro outfit, so take it FWIW.

Just Saying.
I’m well aware. It also has Matt Walsh, Michael Knowles, and Candace Owens. Not many people have been more openly pro Trump than Candace Owens, but that’s starting to change. Here’s the lineup, so you can listen and decide yourself.

The Daily Wire, particularly Matt Walsh, is fighting the culture wars while the rest of the conservative media generally has their thumbs up their ass.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221110/686d51fec39c03078e8cf265de8a551a.jpg)
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 10, 2022, 08:37:00 AM
The uniparty is managing the narrative and the “Trump said mean things,” crowd is sucking it up like milk from mommy’s nipple.
Grow the fuck up. Did you EVER play a team sport?  Apparently you just play with yourself.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 10, 2022, 08:49:31 AM
Grow the fuck up. Did you EVER play a team sport?  Apparently you just play with yourself.

Stan, the Uniparty IS managing the narrative!!! Paul Ryan is saying dump Trump. You think Paul Ryan or the RNC give a rat’s ass about American citizens or the constitution?
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Number7 on November 10, 2022, 08:51:45 AM
Grow the fuck up. Did you EVER play a team sport?  Apparently you just play with yourself.

Come back when you actually think for yourself instead of blabbering whatever the uniparty tells you to. It’s amazing fast every news source manages to present the I hate Trump narrative.

If you want to know who the fucking commie left is most afraid of, Watch who they trash and instead of falling for their bullshit like a coed, grow a set and man up.

But no.
My oh can’t help yourself because Trump said sonething mean.

What fucking nonsense.

No wonder people like you knee cap every real conservative. You’re so busy playing the feelings card.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 10, 2022, 09:02:16 AM
https://thefederalist.com/2022/11/09/republicans-dont-fall-for-the-lefts-post-midterms-trump-trap/

“It’s a false dilemma designed to frustrate Republicans into believing that the party has no good options to move forward — either declare now that Trump is dead weight or pledge undying loyalty to the former president.

Those are not the only two options and Republicans taking cues from the left would be like a gazelle taking directions from a lion.

Recent history is clear. Trump single-handedly revived and revolutionized an entire political party, turning an old country club into a shining Costco, a place where bikers, boaters, and business owners alike can all find the things they need at a good price. What he’s done and where he’s gone since, and in the future, won’t change it. For that, Republicans should be eternally grateful.

Why should there be any need for a messy and public divorce? Just the same, every election doesn’t need to be a competition for which GOP candidate can hug Trump the closest. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis rarely says a word about him, though when he does, it’s always with gratitude. And it works!

Choosing between a party with or without Trump is impossible. Entertaining the question is a trap. Don’t fall for it.”
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 10, 2022, 09:23:44 AM
Stan, the Uniparty IS managing the narrative!!! Paul Ryan is saying dump Trump. You think Paul Ryan or the RNC give a rat’s ass about American citizens or the constitution?
Et tu, Becky? 

I don’t give a fuck what Paul Ryan or the UNiParty is saying. I’m my own man and have come to this decision long before they’ve opened their mouths. At least grant me that courtesy that I can think on my own. I’ve been voting since 1978 and have seen things.

You have seen me support Trump since 2016 when he won the nomination. (I was a Cruz guy before that.)  I can see with my own eyes that he has turned from a pugilist successfully beating on the democrats and the swamp to a punk, insecure back stabber who can’t handle another man’s success.

The best thing Trump could do for the American people and the Republican Party would be to say he’s not running and put his support and money behind the only REPUBLICAN leader in the country, Ron DeSantis. Do you think he will do that?  Of course not. I see him trying to destroy DeSantis, which in turn is destroying the movement that he started. This movement, of which I’m a proud member, cannot be about one person. If it is, it will also die with that one person when he fails to be re-elected or dies. The movement has to live on beyond Trump, and not die a pathetic death like the Tea Party movement, of which I was a part.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: jb1842 on November 10, 2022, 09:55:28 AM
Et tu, Becky? 

I don’t give a fuck what Paul Ryan or the UNiParty is saying. I’m my own man and have come to this decision long before they’ve opened their mouths. At least grant me that courtesy that I can think on my own. I’ve been voting since 1978 and have seen things.

You have seen me support Trump since 2016 when he won the nomination. (I was a Cruz guy before that.)  I can see with my own eyes that he has turned from a pugilist successfully beating on the democrats and the swamp to a punk, insecure back stabber who can’t handle another man’s success.

The best thing Trump could do for the American people and the Republican Party would be to say he’s not running and put his support and money behind the only REPUBLICAN leader in the country, Ron DeSantis. Do you think he will do that?  Of course not. I see him trying to destroy DeSantis, which in turn is destroying the movement that he started. This movement, of which I’m a proud member, cannot be about one person. If it is, it will also die with that one person when he fails to be re-elected or dies. The movement has to live on beyond Trump, and not die a pathetic death like the Tea Party movement, of which I was a part.

I agree. Trump did many a good thing. But his time has passed. It is time to move on. No matter who the GOP puts up for 2024, the left will stop at nothing to lie, cheat, steal the election and to slander our nominee. Why make it easier and back Trump? Especially when he is now attacking our own side.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 10, 2022, 09:56:12 AM
If the Uniparty pushes something, I don’t want it. They’re overtly trying to weaken a movement whose SOLE goals are  to restore the government of America to Americans, clean up corruption, and disengage from the WEF cabal.

I’m for that movement. Whoever unflinchingly leads us there has my support.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Username on November 10, 2022, 10:09:42 AM
I agree. Trump did many a good thing. But his time has passed. It is time to move on. No matter who the GOP puts up for 2024, the left will stop at nothing to lie, cheat, steal the election and to slander our nominee. Why make it easier and back Trump? Especially when he is now attacking our own side.
I'm there as well.  Trump is an amazing man, and did a fantastic job of turning the country around.  Unfortunately he has the undivided attention of his adversaries and they will do everything legal and illegal to pull him down.  If Trump is the nominee in 2024 I feel that he will galvanize the opposition both within the Republican party and everywhere else and he will have no chance of winning.  And this will pull down everyone else down the ticket.

What we need is a charismatic leader (much like Obama and Clinton were for the democrats (not saying that they were that for me)) who can unite the Republican party and Conservatives, and not be a lightning rod for the opposition.  I'm not sure DeSantis can fulfill that role.  Trump can fall back and be a senior advisor.  Unfortunately I think that his personality will not allow him to take a back seat to someone else.  I do like Trump and everything he stands for.  I think, however, that he's done his job and should just step back.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 10, 2022, 10:40:32 AM
I'm there as well.  Trump is an amazing man, and did a fantastic job of turning the country around.  Unfortunately he has the undivided attention of his adversaries and they will do everything legal and illegal to pull him down.  If Trump is the nominee in 2024 I feel that he will galvanize the opposition both within the Republican party and everywhere else and he will have no chance of winning.  And this will pull down everyone else down the ticket.

What we need is a charismatic leader (much like Obama and Clinton were for the democrats (not saying that they were that for me)) who can unite the Republican party and Conservatives, and not be a lightning rod for the opposition.  I'm not sure DeSantis can fulfill that role.  Trump can fall back and be a senior advisor.  Unfortunately I think that his personality will not allow him to take a back seat to someone else.  I do like Trump and everything he stands for.  I think, however, that he's done his job and should just step back.

The instant that person appears they will be destroyed by the left, Uniparty, swamp, and cabal (but I repeat myself) with all the weaponized agencies and media and other means of control that they STILL ARE WIELDING as we speak.

And such a person never can be elected until ALL the states crack down on the cheating, and that’s too slow, if ever it actually happens, for us to survive the constant blows to American safety and prosperity.

My optimistic side hopes I am wrong. But I see on this thread, incredibly, that people are just thinking like things are normal and we just need to elect a DeSantis, or a Kari Lake. But things are not normal and elections are being stolen all over the world.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/nXEEuvjTnDCP/


Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Little Joe on November 10, 2022, 10:43:05 AM
Trump will be the ruin of the Republican party.

Quote
During the Republican primary season, Democrats took a big risk: They boosted Trumpist, election-denying candidates over their more moderate opponents. From the perspective of a coldly calculating Democratic strategist, this might have looked like a safe bet. These further-right candidates tended to be inexperienced and undisciplined, and their close association with former president Donald Trump’s various outrages would make them easier to beat outside of the Republican base.

Yeah, I know.  It is the Washington Post.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/11/09/democrats-cynical-primary-strategy-worked/

But it is true anyway.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Little Joe on November 10, 2022, 10:46:40 AM
  Still butthurt I see.   ::)
Not really,  I just tend to not spend too much time with people I don't like.
Sort of like the reason you and some others here don't spend time on POA or TPP.  Is that because you are butthurt over there?  Or just the butt.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 10, 2022, 10:49:45 AM
Trump will be the ruin of the Republican party.

Yeah, I know.  It is the Washington Post.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/11/09/democrats-cynical-primary-strategy-worked/

But it is true anyway.

See how easy it is? Just call people election deniers and dismiss them even though elections are being stolen everywhere. Lefties would rather feel like everything is fine now that Biden is in and Trump is out. Whoever doesn’t see the not-fineness of things are the true deniers.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 10, 2022, 10:50:23 AM
I agree. Trump did many a good thing. But his time has passed. It is time to move on. No matter who the GOP puts up for 2024, the left will stop at nothing to lie, cheat, steal the election and to slander our nominee. Why make it easier and back Trump? Especially when he is now attacking our own side.
Well exactly. Obviously must have been watching The View to repeat such information. Lol
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 10, 2022, 10:53:39 AM
If the Uniparty pushes something, I don’t want it. They’re overtly trying to weaken a movement whose SOLE goals are  to restore the government of America to Americans, clean up corruption, and disengage from the WEF cabal.

I’m for that movement. Whoever unflinchingly leads us there has my support.
Whoever can win should get our support. Trump won only one election. He lost his last election. His endorsed candidates generally underperformed compared to other candidates on Tuesday. For example, JD Vance’s margin was lower than DeWine.

I chose to follow a consistent proven winner who has the same drive and most as Trump, without baggage. That’s not Trump any longer.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 10, 2022, 11:04:18 AM
Whoever can win should get our support. Trump won only one election. He lost his last election. His endorsed candidates generally underperformed compared to other candidates on Tuesday. For example, JD Vance’s margin was lower than DeWine.

I chose to follow a consistent proven winner who has the same drive and most as Trump, without baggage. That’s not Trump any longer.

He did not lose. He overperformed so enormously that the cheat couldn’t keep up and their wee hour ballot dumps had to be so large as to be glaringly obvious to the world. Brazil is now in an uproar saying Bolsonaro was “Bidened.”

The world wants their countries and governments back.

If you think Biden won legitimately, you might as well switch to the Dems right now and not give a fig about politics at all.

About Trump’s endorsements.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/c-and-c-news-thursday-november-10

“This is a fake corporate media narrative, and not even a very good one. President Trump endorsed 183 candidates. Of those, 174 won. If, in order to get credit, Trump’s candidates had to perform better than THAT, I’d like to know who’s beaten that record.

Let’s see Biden’s record of endorsements and how THEY performed.”
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 10, 2022, 11:54:16 AM
The instant that person appears they will be destroyed by the left, Uniparty, swamp, and cabal (but I repeat myself) with all the weaponized agencies and media and other means of control that they STILL ARE WIELDING as we speak.

And such a person never can be elected until ALL the states crack down on the cheating, and that’s too slow, if ever it actually happens, for us to survive the constant blows to American safety and prosperity.

My optimistic side hopes I am wrong. But I see on this thread, incredibly, that people are just thinking like things are normal and we just need to elect a DeSantis, or a Kari Lake. But things are not normal and elections are being stolen all over the world.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/nXEEuvjTnDCP/
I am trying to find a winning solution to the presidency for 2024. What you said is true, but so what’s your solution?  Go with they guy who lost the last election? 

My solution picks a very tough guy who can weather the storm, is a proven leader, hands it back to the media, has defeated the culture war, destroys the left’s identity politics by winning by over minority groups, and is driven to do what’s right for his constituents.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Steingar on November 10, 2022, 11:56:16 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No red wave!  Trump keeps winning like this I could grow to like the guy.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Number7 on November 10, 2022, 11:57:04 AM
The uniparty adoration society don’t care about the overwhelming success of candidates receiving Trump’s endorsement.

Several weak candidates lost in states with no legitimate election security, so that obviously means Donald Trump is the enemy.
 
We the clear and undeniable logic at work here?

Donald Trump was accused of saying something mean. The hurt feelings cabal needs nothing more than that to justify their bullshit.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 10, 2022, 12:05:47 PM
...
No red wave!  Trump keeps winning like this I could grow to like the guy.

classy as always...you continue to live down to your reputation.

Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 10, 2022, 12:12:22 PM
Trump will be the ruin of the Republican party.

Yeah, I know.  It is the Washington Post.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/11/09/democrats-cynical-primary-strategy-worked/

But it is true anyway.
Don’t buy  into the democrats’ arguments about election “deniers.”  Look at Kari Lake for how you handle the media on that.

The left made “election deniers” appear like lepers. Utter bullshit.

They also change the language of a protest into “insurrection.”  Again, utter bullshit but now broadly used by everyone, which is a fraud.
 
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 10, 2022, 12:26:21 PM
Biden’s disastrous policies and actions, massive inflation, supply issues, untenable costs of fuel and groceries for the working poor, billions of American dollars pissed away into Ukraine, a massive spending bill laughably labeled the Inflation Reduction Act, Biden’s fascist-like speeches denigrating and lying about his opponents instead of offering anything real and beneficial to the American people … THOSE were the things that were supposed to generate unilateral response against the illegitimate regime and its party.

This shit and more like it will be our fate until election laws are enforced everywhere. American citizens did not vote for it. Even Dems aren’t that dumb.

Trump was not a significant expected red wave factor at all. His endorsement win record was 174 of 183, which is quite respectable. Everyone knew “red wave” was pie in the sky … we have cheating everywhere. They’re still counting in Maricopa County and other counties around AZ are stalling for that.

Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 10, 2022, 12:33:09 PM
He did not lose. He overperformed so enormously that the cheat couldn’t keep up and their wee hour ballot dumps had to be so large as to be glaringly obvious to the world. Brazil is now in an uproar saying Bolsonaro was “Bidened.”

The world wants their countries and governments back.

If you think Biden won legitimately, you might as well switch to the Dems right now and not give a fig about politics at all.

Im getting fairly sick of defending my conservative bonafides with such hyperbolic statements.

Biden didn’t win legitimately at all, but he’s the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, unless you have better information than me.

There is no movement to reverse the 2020 election.

There is no revolution to re-capture the White House.

Trump is not running a shadow government. 

Now let’s get to reality. Trump was the chemotherapy that the country needed to survive a terrible 30-year decline as a county. He single handedly brought forth America First and advanced our position on the world stage.  He advanced more conservative policies than any president in my lifetime.

But at some point if you don’t stop the chemotherapy, it will literally kill the patient. That’s where I am today wrt Trump.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Steingar on November 10, 2022, 12:34:14 PM
The uniparty adoration society don’t care about the overwhelming success of candidates receiving Trump’s endorsement.
(https://media.tenor.com/YjWNBpNd_ngAAAAC/laughing-hysterically-emoji.gif)
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 10, 2022, 12:42:22 PM
I see the child has returned. 
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Number7 on November 10, 2022, 12:50:42 PM
That’s not a child.

It’s a mental case.

He will start posting evil biden meme next.

The guy is a fucking troll.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Steingar on November 10, 2022, 12:53:06 PM
What Number 7 has in common with the GOP?  Both his IQ and GOP gains in the 2022 election are single digit numbers!
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: jb1842 on November 10, 2022, 02:07:59 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No red wave!  Trump keeps winning like this I could grow to like the guy.

Retards in your party voted in a dead guy. Stay classy.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Lucifer on November 10, 2022, 04:37:12 PM
Not really,  I just tend to not spend too much time with people I don't like.
Sort of like the reason you and some others here don't spend time on POA or TPP.  Is that because you are butthurt over there?  Or just the butt.


No, just find those places boring, and uninteresting conversation.

Maybe that’s why you like those places.  ;)
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Lucifer on November 10, 2022, 04:40:34 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No red wave!  Trump keeps winning like this I could grow to like the guy.

 President Trump endorsed 183 candidates. Of those, 174 won.

How many Biden endorsements won?
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Lucifer on November 10, 2022, 04:44:38 PM
What Number 7 has in common with the GOP?  Both his IQ and GOP gains in the 2022 election are single digit numbers!

  So the dims have lost the house, and probably the senate.   I’d say those are gains.

  So, once again, can you elaborate on why you still support a party that has aligned themselves with communism, is overtly racist and supports totalitarian principles?
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Number7 on November 10, 2022, 05:05:55 PM
The troll doesn’t think on his own.
He regurgitates the bullshit his owners tell him to think.
He shows up spews like a sewer, then trots out junior high insults and trolls off to wherever people like him go when their make believe vagina hurts.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 10, 2022, 05:22:34 PM
oh be kind to ol' POS.

It takes him time to find an "insult" to plagiarize, er, copy.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Number7 on November 10, 2022, 05:59:07 PM
oh be kind to ol' POS.

It takes him time to find an "insult" to plagiarize, er, copy.

Steal

Like every other blind progressive, he can’t think on his own so he steals other peoples words and pretends it gives him street cred.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Lucifer on November 10, 2022, 09:14:35 PM
https://raheemkassam.substack.com/p/blame-trump-for-the-red-trickle-nonsense
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Rush on November 11, 2022, 05:10:27 AM
https://raheemkassam.substack.com/p/blame-trump-for-the-red-trickle-nonsense

“People really are getting dumber and more pliant and there’s no ignoring that anymore, “

YES.

“Even those surrounding and supportive of the victorious Florida governor accept that DeSantis is closer to the GOP comfort zone – including the neoconservatives – than Trump is.”

THIS is my problem with DeSantis and those of you jumping from Trump to him.  He feels like a politician, not the outsider Trump is.  I don’t see him fired up to take apart the monolithic federal apparatus that now enslaves us the way Trump was.  It may be that he hasn’t had a chance to yet.  I’m reserving judgment.  I’ll not decide right now which I’ll support in 2024 if they both run.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Number7 on November 11, 2022, 05:34:44 AM
Like trained seals the mushy middle desperately abandon the only president since Reagan that actually governed for the people.

And why???

The fucking media told them to.

What pathetic pussies.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Username on November 11, 2022, 06:17:23 AM
“People really are getting dumber and more pliant and there’s no ignoring that anymore, “

YES.

“Even those surrounding and supportive of the victorious Florida governor accept that DeSantis is closer to the GOP comfort zone – including the neoconservatives – than Trump is.”

THIS is my problem with DeSantis and those of you jumping from Trump to him.  He feels like a politician, not the outsider Trump is.  I don’t see him fired up to take apart the monolithic federal apparatus that now enslaves us the way Trump was.  It may be that he hasn’t had a chance to yet.  I’m reserving judgment.  I’ll not decide right now which I’ll support in 2024 if they both run.
One of Trump's great failings is that he didn't really understand how brutally viscous politics can be.  Being an outsider is great and trying to run the US like a business is outstanding.  But he had no idea how to politically outmaneuver his opponents.  He tried reason and love for country.  The opposition have none of that... only ideology and hate for country and hate for Trump.  Trump should have, but didn't, do a great purge of everyone not aligned with the greatness of the USA.  Clinton and Obama did that, and purged everyone not aligned with the "greatness" of their ideology.  Biden, too.  Trump treated it like a business, keeping those who understood their jobs in place so the country didn't lose a good knowledge base.  Unfortunately they were also ideologues and actively worked against him as part of the deep state.

Yes, Trump selflessly worked for the US and for its people.  ALL its people.  But the political opposition was just too strong.  DeSantis may not have the strength of will and the outsiderism that Trump has, but I think he has the political tactical and strategic knowledge to fight on THAT battlefield.  If Trump could get the political skills needed for the fight ahead, that would be great.  That would be outstanding!!  But I don't see that yet.
Title: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 11, 2022, 06:22:45 AM
“People really are getting dumber and more pliant and there’s no ignoring that anymore, “

YES.

“Even those surrounding and supportive of the victorious Florida governor accept that DeSantis is closer to the GOP comfort zone – including the neoconservatives – than Trump is.”

THIS is my problem with DeSantis and those of you jumping from Trump to him.  He feels like a politician, not the outsider Trump is.  I don’t see him fired up to take apart the monolithic federal apparatus that now enslaves us the way Trump was.  It may be that he hasn’t had a chance to yet.  I’m reserving judgment.  I’ll not decide right now which I’ll support in 2024 if they both run.
My focus is selfish. I need a candidate who can give me 8 years, and who has the best chance of getting elected in the General election. Trump doesn’t check either box.

It’s foolish to think that the electorate would give one party back to back wins. It’s happened twice in the last 100 years.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Number7 on November 11, 2022, 07:02:07 AM
Well over 20 years ago Rush predicted that one day a president would get elected who would ignore the beltway whores, and govern only on what was best for the people.

He said that he would be the most popular politician in history with the people and the most hated by the establishment who would do anything to take him down.

’those rino twats attacking Donald Trump today are just as toxic as the queer mafia and civil rights whores.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Rush on November 11, 2022, 07:59:56 AM
One of Trump's great failings is that he didn't really understand how brutally viscous politics can be.  Being an outsider is great and trying to run the US like a business is outstanding.  But he had no idea how to politically outmaneuver his opponents.  He tried reason and love for country.  The opposition have none of that... only ideology and hate for country and hate for Trump.  Trump should have, but didn't, do a great purge of everyone not aligned with the greatness of the USA.  Clinton and Obama did that, and purged everyone not aligned with the "greatness" of their ideology.  Biden, too.  Trump treated it like a business, keeping those who understood their jobs in place so the country didn't lose a good knowledge base.  Unfortunately they were also ideologues and actively worked against him as part of the deep state.

Yes, Trump selflessly worked for the US and for its people.  ALL its people.  But the political opposition was just too strong.  DeSantis may not have the strength of will and the outsiderism that Trump has, but I think he has the political tactical and strategic knowledge to fight on THAT battlefield.  If Trump could get the political skills needed for the fight ahead, that would be great.  That would be outstanding!!  But I don't see that yet.

Totally agree with the first paragraph.  I am thinking he has learned a lot and theoretically will be more savvy in his next term.  But he is old.  I’m sorry to tell you old folks but it really is true that it’s harder to learn new tricks when you’re an old dog.  Yes, some oldsters remain mentally sharp and agile into their 80s but it’s a minority who have so little effects they can perform as well as a younger man.

You are right about the opposition.  Media, education, and a weaponized set of federal agencies make a formidable front and I’ve yet to see proof that DeSantis has the lion’s heart Trump does to oppose it.  It is a literal danger.  These people will imprison you and probably even kill you.  Trump laughs in the face of that.  I haven’t seen DeSantis face it yet and so don’t know that he has the same courage.  If he doesn’t, he will end up cucking to them like most other Republicans.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Little Joe on November 11, 2022, 08:01:04 AM
THIS is my problem with DeSantis and those of you jumping from Trump to him.  He feels like a politician, not the outsider Trump is.  I don’t see him fired up to take apart the monolithic federal apparatus that now enslaves us the way Trump was.  It may be that he hasn’t had a chance to yet.  I’m reserving judgment.  I’ll not decide right now which I’ll support in 2024 if they both run.
Perhaps if you knew a little more about DeSantis you would feel differently.  He served two terms in Congress where he earned his cred keeping his promises.  Then he was elected governor on that credibility.

He served in the Naval Jag corps, and while he was not a Navy Seal, he did serve as advisor and earned the Seals admiration and respect.

Here is a brief synopsis:

Quote
A native Floridian with blue-collar roots, Ron DeSantis worked his way through Yale University, where he graduated with honors and was the captain of the varsity baseball team. He also graduated with honors from Harvard Law School. While at Harvard, he earned a commission in the U.S. Navy as a JAG officer. During his active-duty service, he supported operations at the terrorist detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba and deployed to Iraq as an adviser to a U.S. Navy SEAL commander in support of the SEAL mission in Fallujah, Ramadi and the rest of Al Anbar province. His military decorations include the Bronze Star Medal for meritorious service and the Iraq Campaign Medal.

After active-duty service, Ron DeSantis served as a federal prosecutor, where he targeted and convicted child predators. He still serves in the U.S. Navy Reserve. He was first elected to Congress in 2012, as the U.S. Representative for Florida’s Sixth District, where he fought for term limits, the No Budget/No Pay Act, and to cut taxes. While serving in Congress, he refused his Congressional pension and health insurance plan because he is against special deals for politicians. He also sponsored legislation to make it easier for the military to prosecute sexual assault and authored the bill to end the secret taxpayer-funded slush fund for members of Congress to make hush payoffs for sexual harassment.

Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Number7 on November 11, 2022, 08:01:48 AM
Brain dead Fetterman defeated Oz. Way to go, Donald. Great pick. King maker my ass.

Brain dead also describes the never trumpers here fiddling the lame stream narrative about President atrium

If you hate him be a man and say so. Stop lying about his success rate and calling it truth.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Little Joe on November 11, 2022, 08:02:48 AM
To add to my previous post, DeSantis EARNED everything he has. Unlike President "Atrium".
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Rush on November 11, 2022, 08:12:44 AM
Perhaps if you knew a little more about DeSantis you would feel differently.  He served two terms in Congress where he earned his cred keeping his promises.  Then he was elected governor on that credibility.

He served in the Naval Jag corps, and while he was not a Navy Seal, he did serve as advisor and earned the Seals admiration and respect.

Here is a brief synopsis:

Not all of that makes me like him more.  Keep in mind, I am not a conservative.  Too busy now to elaborate.  Physical therapy person coming soon.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 11, 2022, 09:23:03 AM
An interesting strategy for Republicans. Hold off on dropping their ballots until near the end of counting.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/c-and-c-news-friday-november-10-2022
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 11, 2022, 11:46:39 AM
Like trained seals the mushy middle desperately abandon the only president since Reagan that actually governed for the people.

And why???

The fucking media told them to.

What pathetic pussies.
My God you are as childish and thin skinned as Trump. You can’t accept that other opinions might exist for the future of the country without Trump, and attack the messenger exactly like the leftists in government and media. Yet you don’t see the similarities between you and MSNBC.

You have to say that I’m a slave to the media, yet don’t see that you seem to be a slave to the Trump hero worship cult.

I went two Trump rallies.  Did you?

I campaigned for Trump in 2016 and 2020. Did you, or did you just shout from your Lazy Boy? 

I spoke at a Tea Party rally in Jefferson County Wisconsin in 2010. Did you?

I’ve come to the determination that Trump’s usefulness to me and to the Navion is waning, and could be dangerous or fatal to the movement that he started.

You are obviously incapable of coming up with your own independent thoughts on the matter. Kind of like Steingar. Pathetic.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 11, 2022, 11:48:43 AM
An interesting strategy for Republicans. Hold off on dropping their ballots until near the end of counting.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/c-and-c-news-friday-november-10-2022
I found that interesting myself. Last night Tucker had on some guy from Arizona who was very excited about the 3-400,000 same day drop offs on Election Day. My gut said “we’re screwed” but the guest proceeded to say that the vast majority of those were republicans. I was shocked.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Anthony on November 11, 2022, 11:51:07 AM
“People really are getting dumber and more pliant and there’s no ignoring that anymore, “

YES.

“Even those surrounding and supportive of the victorious Florida governor accept that DeSantis is closer to the GOP comfort zone – including the neoconservatives – than Trump is.”

THIS is my problem with DeSantis and those of you jumping from Trump to him.  He feels like a politician, not the outsider Trump is.  I don’t see him fired up to take apart the monolithic federal apparatus that now enslaves us the way Trump was.  It may be that he hasn’t had a chance to yet.  I’m reserving judgment.  I’ll not decide right now which I’ll support in 2024 if they both run.

But Desantis is the best that can get elected. Trump can't.  He's too far gone in the eyes of too much of the public.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Rush on November 11, 2022, 12:08:22 PM
But Desantis is the best that can get elected. Trump can't.  He's too far gone in the eyes of too much of the public.

Not true according to the polls.  He’d win against DeSantis in a primary and against any Democrat in 2024, not counting fraud of course. 

If Trump can’t get elected then it’s because the Dems will cheat like hell to prevent it just like they did in 2020.  What I don’t believe is that the Dems won’t do the same amount of cheating for any other Republican candidate.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Little Joe on November 11, 2022, 12:16:42 PM
Not true according to the polls.  He’d win against DeSantis in a primary and against any Democrat in 2024, not counting fraud of course. 

Can you site any polls since Trump began committing political suicide by childishly attacking DeSantis?  More than half the country already hated his guts before that, and now more than half of the rest hate his guts.  There is NO WAY he will ever win again.  Your post about 4-D chess was right on.  He has strengthened DeSantis' standing by shooting himself in the ass (which by the way is a huge target).
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Number7 on November 11, 2022, 12:41:59 PM
My God you are as childish and thin skinned as Trump. You can’t accept that other opinions might exist for the future of the country without Trump, and attack the messenger exactly like the leftists in government and media. Yet you don’t see the similarities between you and MSNBC.

You have to say that I’m a slave to the media, yet don’t see that you seem to be a slave to the Trump hero worship cult.

I went two Trump rallies.  Did you?

I campaigned for Trump in 2016 and 2020. Did you, or did you just shout from your Lazy Boy? 

I spoke at a Tea Party rally in Jefferson County Wisconsin in 2010. Did you?

I’ve come to the determination that Trump’s usefulness to me and to the Navion is waning, and could be dangerous or fatal to the movement that he started.

You are obviously incapable of coming up with your own independent thoughts on the matter. Kind of like Steingar. Pathetic.

Your bullshit aside....

Right now you are following the left media narrative to a T.

Pat yourself on the back all you want.

What you are doing is treasonous to the conservative movement.

But you know that and are enraged because of a mean tweet.

I hate to break it to you but I volunteered for the Florida Trump campaign.

Instead of attending a rally and sitting in my seat, I walked neighborhoods, spent hours on phone banks
waved signs along the highway, and handed out Trump flyers.

I did the same in 2012 for Connie Mack and in 2016 for Marco Rubio when he ran against that piece of shit, bill nelson.
handed out

I'm not bragging. You were.

I am not abandoning him because he said something mean and I'm not swallowing the bullshit narrative whole like you.
I'm glad he says mean things that pisses off the leftist and the squishy middlers like you.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Rush on November 11, 2022, 12:43:02 PM
Can you site any polls since Trump began committing political suicide by childishly attacking DeSantis?  More than half the country already hated his guts before that, and now more than half of the rest hate his guts.  There is NO WAY he will ever win again.  Your post about 4-D chess was right on.  He has strengthened DeSantis' standing by shooting himself in the ass (which by the way is a huge target).

You mean in the last 24 hours?  No.  And I’m not going to take a bunch of social media posts as any kind of signal.  You’re right there’s no way he will ever win again, because the Dems will CHEAT.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Little Joe on November 11, 2022, 12:46:41 PM
You mean in the last 24 hours?  No.  And I’m not going to take a bunch of social media posts as any kind of signal.  You’re right there’s no way he will ever win again, because the Dems will CHEAT.
True, it hasn't been long, but it has been more than 24 hours.  Trump first referred to "Ron De-Sanctimonious" on Nov 7.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 11, 2022, 12:52:23 PM
Not true according to the polls.  He’d win against DeSantis in a primary and against any Democrat in 2024, not counting fraud of course. 

If Trump can’t get elected then it’s because the Dems will cheat like hell to prevent it just like they did in 2020.  What I don’t believe is that the Dems won’t do the same amount of cheating for any other Republican candidate.
Not according to Las Vegas. While still not well known from a polling perspective, the betting odds moved DeSantis into first place to win the White House, with trump slipping to 2nd place.

I agree with Anthony. And at the end of the day, MAGA can’t be about a single man. 


"Incredible shift in the odds for President in 2024! @RonDeSantisFL overtook Trump for the first time," said Maxim Lott, co-founder of the website electionbettingodds.com.

Lott's website averages live odds pulled from numerous election betting markets. The website now gives DeSantis a 26.8% chance of winning the presidency in 2024, representing a 11.8% shift of the odds in his favor in just the last day. Trump slid out of first place, falling to 18.4% odds of retaking the White House.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/desantis-overtakes-trump-2024-betting-markets-midterm-election-results-pour-in
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Rush on November 11, 2022, 12:59:37 PM
True, it hasn't been long, but it has been more than 24 hours.  Trump first referred to "Ron De-Sanctimonious" on Nov 7.

I found it, the video clip.  Really?  This is what y’all are all upset about??  Wow.  I agree with American Thinker, it seems more like a joke and the fact that all of the media is making such a big deal about it tells me it’s nothing, because the media are fucking liars about everything.  I’m not buying it.  It didn’t make sense to me and now I understand why. 

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/11/trump_did_not_insult_ron_desantis_it_was_merely_a_joke.html

I will copy the text but not the videos they’re referencing, you have to go to the link to see them.

Trump did not insult Ron DeSantis, it was merely a joke

Since Donald Trump became a force to reckon with in the Republican Party there have been innumerable attempts by the Democrats and their propaganda wing,  i.e. the mainstream media,  to destroy him.

The narrative they tried to push was that Trump is a fraud, insane, senile, crazy, stupid, immoral, and traitorous.

They concocted and pushed the Trump-Russia collusion hoax. There were two baseless impeachments and myriad investigations into Trump's businesses.

At every point, the media amplified Democrat talking points or falsified claims of their own.

On occasions they resorted to petty ploys such as attempting to instigate a feud between their two primary adversaries President Donald Trump and Florida governor Ron DeSantis.


When Trump criticized politicians' reticence to admit they took the vaccine the media characterized this as a veiled attack on DeSantis.

When DeSantis expressed regret for not standing up to the federal COVID-19 lockdown in 2020, the media called it a veiled dig against Trump.

Media "sources" claimed President Trump had privately called DeSantis "dull" with no realistic chance of beating him in a potential 2024 showdown. 

The New York Times and the Daily Beast then declared war between Trump and DeSantis for the GOP nomination.

The Washington Post attempted to pit DeSantis against Trump in a piece replete with wishful thinking, conjecture, falsehoods, and obviously "sources."


Last month, DeSantis endorsed Colorado Senate Candidate Joe O'Dea and recorded an automated phone call for the campaign, saying "I've watched Joe from a distance. And I'm impressed." 

O’Dea is vehemently against Trump. He said that Trump should not run in 2024.

O'Dea engaged in false equivalence by going on CNN and saying “another Biden or  Trump election will tear this country apart." He supported DeSantis, Scott, Pompeo or Haley instead. O’Dea also told CNN that Trump should have done more to prevent the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol.

Yet DeSantis endorsed O’Dea and said he was ‘impressed’.

Was it because O’Dea is a Republican and every GOP senator is important if the GOP has to take back the Senate?

Was it because a Republican irrespective of being anti-Trump will always be better than a Democrat?

Was it DeSantis firing a shot towards Trump?

Trump called DeSantis's endorsement a mistake.

Saturday at a rally in Pennsylvania, Trump was reading out his poll numbers within the GOP and referred to DeSantis as DeSantimonious; he also mocked Mike Pence, but few caught that.

This media reacted with glee.

The NYT claimed that “Trump-DeSantis Rift Grows, With Dueling Rallies and Name-Calling,” CNN claimed, “Trump criticizes DeSantis with new nickname at rally,” Rolling Stone claimed, “Trump Mocks Ron DeSantis During Lie-Filled Pennsylvania Rally,” The Telegraph claimed, “Donald Trump opens new rift, calling 2024 Republican rival 'Ron DeSanctimonious.'”

Surprisingly even conservative media reacted similarly.

Fox News claimed that conservatives turned on Trump for attacking DeSantis.

Matt Walsh called it a public attack:



Ron Dreher called Trump an idiot, which was part of the headline of Fox News's piece:



AT’s Thomas Lifson called it a “mistake” to violate Reagan’s 11th commandment.

Many other influential conservatives also weighed in against Trump.

One among them wished Trump had waited till the mid-terms ended.



Another called it a case for Trump not being the nominee:



Another even compared Trump to Liz Cheney:



There was more outrage:



Some asked Trump to stop:



Chip Roy displayed his shortcomings in comedy:



So was this really an attack on DeSantis? Before we answer that, let’s look at Trump's record as a campaigner.

Trump has the instincts of a showman and is often more hilarious than professional comedians. This is one of the reasons that he rose so quickly in the polls -- his ability to connect to people via his humor.

Two years ago at CPAC, Trump made a demonstration of those comedic gifts. After mocking Bloomberg for spending hundreds of millions of dollars on his presidential run yielding nothing, Trump derided Bloomberg for looking helpless after being attacked by Senator Elizabeth Pocahontas Warren. The crowd applauded and cheered.

At that time Trump’s comedic instincts prompted him to take it one step further and crouched behind a podium to mock Michael Bloomberg’s diminutive stature. The reaction was stupendous.



Trump even joked while pardoning a turkey for Thanksgiving, comparing it to his phony impeachment:



Trump even joked at his own expense, referring to his bald spot:



There are copious other instances where Trump has joked at his own expense.

We know that liberals are sensitive snowflakes who often can’t take a joke and engage in overstatement.  But we expected more from conservatives.

Back to the question about if this was an attack on Ron DeSantis?

If Trump wanted to attack Ron DeSantis, he would have called him Non DeSantis for his lack of personal charisma or Yawn De Santis for being a not-so-lively public speaker, or Vain DeSantis for starring in a Top Gun-style campaign advert.

But this was just a joke, one that probably occurred to him on the spot while reading his glowing poll numbers.  The crowd seemed to understand that too; there were boos.

What about the claim that this is a needless attack just 3 days prior to the mid-terms?  DeSantis is leading his Democrat rival Charlie Crist by dual digits in almost every poll.  The Real Clear Politics average of all polls has DeSantis leading Crist by 11.5 points. If this were a very close race, perhaps a joke would have been considered unnecessary.  A little joke by Trump is not going to hurt his electoral prospects.

What about the argument that Trump’s “attack” provided the media with a distraction?  The media is always looking for a distraction, if it weren’t for this joke, it would have been about comparing the GOP with the Nazi party or calling MAGA Republicans extremists.

What about those saying that Trump should have waited till after the midterms?

The Democrats are responsible for high inflation, high fuel prices, open borders causing the drug crisis, high crime, demonizing the police, supporting foreign wars while people at home struggle, politicizing government agencies and so much more.

Does anybody really think that a Republican voter will change his vote after listening to a joke?

Was Trump pilot-testing his insult to see how the base reacts?

It is impossible to tell the motives behind what he says, but looking at his past, we can deduce that it was a joke, perhaps because there may be an element of truth in it.  DeSantis has been a very effective governor who has stood against the Democrat establishment.  But he does carry himself with an air of sanctimoniousness. This isn’t the blatant and revolting self-righteousness of the Democrats, but there is that slight smugness in his presentation. Some people do have that tendency for that, it doesn’t make them bad or less capable.

Let’s look beyond the joke.

Just nine days ago, Trump called DeSantis a “nice man.” Just yesterday, Trump endorsed DeSantis:



Hopefully, this should end all chatter about Trump insulting DeSantis.

Everyone, including some conservatives, needs to relax and treat a joke for what it is.

You either laugh or move on.


Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Little Joe on November 11, 2022, 01:04:25 PM
I found it, the video clip.  Really?  This is what y’all are all upset about??  Wow.
No, that's not all we are upset about.  That is just one salvo.  The threats and demands for subserviance add a lot more to the story than his childish name calling.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 11, 2022, 01:07:10 PM
You mean in the last 24 hours?  No.  And I’m not going to take a bunch of social media posts as any kind of signal.  You’re right there’s no way he will ever win again, because the Dems will CHEAT.

Exactly. Why does everyone keep ignoring this?

It astounds me that otherwise intelligent people will drone on about “electing” someone for president, and discuss their merits or shortcomings, when not only was 2020 NOT FIXED, but Dem cheating still is rampant in 2022. It’s endemic now, and all our energies should be directed to securing our sacred vote.

Otherwise nothing and no one matters. I'll discuss Trump v DeSantis when we have Election Day, not Election Month.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Number7 on November 11, 2022, 01:41:05 PM
No, that's not all we are upset about.  That is just one salvo.  The threats and demands for subserviance add a lot more to the story than his childish name calling.

Your devotion to the talking points is nothing short of treason.
Blabber all you want but wrapping your arms around the lane stream narrative and kissing it on the lips is blind betrayal, not thoughtful disagreement.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 11, 2022, 01:52:38 PM
Rush, it wasn’t a joke. That’s one man’s opinion.

And it wasn’t just a single comment about DeSantis. I’ve posted plenty more on my DeSantis thread. I didn’t address any other than DeSantis, but do you think telling the crowd at an Ohio rally that JD Vance has been kissing his ass to get Trump’s support, that’s merely a joke?  Was that designed to help or hurt JD Vance?

I’ve just completed 40+ years in business, and dealt with literally thousands of clients, up close and personal. I’m very familiar with the type of person that Trump is.  Some people have to diminish others any time they might outshine the person.  They say they don’t mean it, but they mean it, because such diminishment serves a purpose to eliminate competition (even if no such competition practically exists), and of course boost their ego.

Damaging people who I believe can lead the MAGA movement beyond Trump is an affront to me. I’m 62 years old. My finances and my retirement can’t withstand another 6 years of democrat control, and I think Trump is incapable of winning the general election. Period. And in the unlikely event he does win, the blow back will be so severe that the subsequent 4 year period will be a dem presidency.  I’m also getting fatigued with having to defend him when he becomes a little bitch. I’ve got too much on my plate.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 11, 2022, 02:07:49 PM
No, that's not all we are upset about.  That is just one salvo.  The threats and demands for subserviance add a lot more to the story than his childish name calling.
Well exactly. I think we’re a little more complex than that.
Title: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 11, 2022, 02:08:49 PM
Exactly. Why does everyone keep ignoring this?

It astounds me that otherwise intelligent people will drone on about “electing” someone for president, and discuss their merits or shortcomings, when not only was 2020 NOT FIXED, but Dem cheating still is rampant in 2022. It’s endemic now, and all our energies should be directed to securing our sacred vote.

Otherwise nothing and no one matters. I'll discuss Trump v DeSantis when we have Election Day, not Election Month.
Who’s ignoring this?  If you’re talking about GOP “leadership” (an oxymoron) then I totally agree with you.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 11, 2022, 02:12:25 PM
Your devotion to the talking points is nothing short of treason.
Blabber all you want but wrapping your arms around the lane stream narrative and kissing it on the lips is blind betrayal, not thoughtful disagreement.
Words matter. You’d better have a fucking good case to call someone a traitor.

It’s really pathetic if you mean to imply he’s a traitor to your hero worship of a politician. I movement can’t be about one man. It’s best you learn that now and not when your alone in the wilderness because one man lost. 
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Rush on November 11, 2022, 02:23:53 PM
Rush, it wasn’t a joke. That’s one man’s opinion.

And it wasn’t just a single comment about DeSantis. I’ve posted plenty more on my DeSantis thread. I didn’t address any other than DeSantis, but do you think telling the crowd at an Ohio rally that JD Vance has been kissing his ass to get Trump’s support, that’s merely a joke?  Was that designed to help or hurt JD Vance?

I’ve just completed 40+ years in business, and dealt with literally thousands of clients, up close and personal. I’m very familiar with the type of person that Trump is.  Some people have to diminish others any time they might outshine the person.  They say they don’t mean it, but they mean it, because such diminishment serves a purpose to eliminate competition (even if no such competition practically exists), and of course boost their ego.

Damaging people who I believe can lead the MAGA movement beyond Trump is an affront to me. I’m 62 years old. My finances and my retirement can’t withstand another 6 years of democrat control, and I think Trump is incapable of winning the general election. Period. And in the unlikely event he does win, the blow back will be so severe that the subsequent 4 year period will be a dem presidency.  I’m also getting fatigued with having to defend him when he becomes a little bitch. I’ve got too much on my plate.

I respect all that and agree completely about the finances and retirement, but explain to me how the Dems are going to allow anyone else to take up the MAGA movement?  I don’t think it matters who the Republican nominee is, they’ll cheat again and we will have another 6 years, or forever, of Dem control.  Becky is right, without addressing the cheating our arguing Trump vs DeSantis is pointless.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 11, 2022, 02:39:02 PM
I respect all that and agree completely about the finances and retirement, but explain to me how the Dems are going to allow anyone else to take up the MAGA movement?  I don’t think it matters who the Republican nominee is, they’ll cheat again and we will have another 6 years, or forever, of Dem control.  Becky is right, without addressing the cheating our arguing Trump vs DeSantis is pointless.
The MAGA movement rests with us. Not the democrats, not the msm, and frankly, not with a single person. It will only move on if we co to use to carry the flag.  Which means we’ve got to grow it, bring in leaders who can advance America First, and keep an eye to the future.

That’s separate from the cheating problem, and we need to hold our current lawmakers’ feet to the fire on that. Trump didn’t do anything to stop the cheating. He just highlighted it. Change happens on the state and local level. And that means us.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 11, 2022, 02:50:29 PM
Who’s ignoring this?  If you’re talking about GOP “leadership” (an oxymoron) then I totally agree with you.

Yes, recruiting good people is important but I don’t think it’s separate from the cheating by much. Good people are rare and many won’t sacrifice everything to run when they’re repeatedly squeaked out by fraud all over the country, which we see happening.

Any discussion of “electing” an R candidate for Congress or President is meaningless at this point. Hell, they’re stalling on a fucking school board election in my town. Conservative incumbent vs liberal CRT-spouting douche bag. It’s fucking FRIDAY, alright? Under 20,000 fucking votes total.

You’re in Wisconsin. There especially and across the country we need to bust into back rooms and investigate systems and grill county auditors and limit precinct sizes and force a one-day count … I’ve read of election shenanigans in our nation’s past where the people took swift and decisive action.

Fraud has to be stopped. Our vote is our voice.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 11, 2022, 03:42:11 PM
I think it's great how much debt Trump ran up while he was President including the stimulus. Apparently his veto pen didn't work. Do we want more of that?
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Rush on November 11, 2022, 05:25:33 PM
I think it's great how much debt Trump ran up while he was President including the stimulus. Apparently his veto pen didn't work. Do we want more of that?

That’s actually true and I was hoping he’d address that in his second term.  I believe his heart was in the right place with the first round of stimulus but the Democrats passing a blatant inflation increase bill, calling it “reduction” and killing energy to boot driving heights of inflation is pure deliberate evil.  Trump never set out to deliberately destroy the economy like the Dems.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 11, 2022, 05:29:04 PM
Yes, recruiting good people is important but I don’t think it’s separate from the cheating by much. Good people are rare and many won’t sacrifice everything to run when they’re repeatedly squeaked out by fraud all over the country, which we see happening.

Any discussion of “electing” an R candidate for Congress or President is meaningless at this point. Hell, they’re stalling on a fucking school board election in my town. Conservative incumbent vs liberal CRT-spouting douche bag. It’s fucking FRIDAY, alright? Under 20,000 fucking votes total.

You’re in Wisconsin. There especially and across the country we need to bust into back rooms and investigate systems and grill county auditors and limit precinct sizes and force a one-day count … I’ve read of election shenanigans in our nation’s past where the people took swift and decisive action.

Fraud has to be stopped. Our vote is our voice.
I’m on it and have been. I’ve challenged Chris Kapenga, my state Senator, about election integrity. In particular we have a 7 justice state Supreme Court, and justices are elected. I’ve called Kapenga, a fellow CPA by the way, about stopping fraud with this next SC election which happens in April I believe. His response was like kissing my sister. I was not happy and will continue to be his worst nightmare. 
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 11, 2022, 05:30:28 PM
I think it's great how much debt Trump ran up while he was President including the stimulus. Apparently his veto pen didn't work. Do we want more of that?
Trump was NOT a fiscal conservative, which damaged the concept of a business person being the best to run the government. 
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 11, 2022, 05:32:00 PM
That’s actually true and I was hoping he’d address that in his second term.  I believe his heart was in the right place with the first round of stimulus but the Democrats passing a blatant inflation increase bill, calling it “reduction” and killing energy to boot driving heights of inflation is pure deliberate evil.  Trump never set out to deliberately destroy the economy like the Dems.
Well, Trump bought into all the covid relief, which cost over $1 Trillion. He signed the legislation that included the PPP loan program.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Anthony on November 11, 2022, 05:51:58 PM
Your bullshit aside....

Right now you are following the left media narrative to a T.

Pat yourself on the back all you want.

What you are doing is treasonous to the conservative movement.

But you know that and are enraged because of a mean tweet.

I hate to break it to you but I volunteered for the Florida Trump campaign.

Instead of attending a rally and sitting in my seat, I walked neighborhoods, spent hours on phone banks
waved signs along the highway, and handed out Trump flyers.

I did the same in 2012 for Connie Mack and in 2016 for Marco Rubio when he ran against that piece of shit, bill nelson.
handed out

I'm not bragging. You were.

I am not abandoning him because he said something mean and I'm not swallowing the bullshit narrative whole like you.
I'm glad he says mean things that pisses off the leftist and the squishy middlers like you.

Stan is no squishy middler.  I may not totally agree with him here but let's get real.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Rush on November 11, 2022, 06:13:50 PM
Well, Trump bought into all the covid relief, which cost over $1 Trillion. He signed the legislation that included the PPP loan program.

He did and that’s one of the mistakes he made that I don’t like.  But he isn’t perfect.  He did it out of naïvety and, I believe, a genuine desire to help.  In retrospect it was all wrong.  The PPP program has a deplorable fraud rate and the whole Covid package should have been unnecessary as the whole Covid pandemic with its lockdowns was engineered by the left if not the actual Chinese.  But given the moment what would you have had Trump do?  If he had done the right thing and ignored Fauci et al, he would have been excoriated even worse than he is now.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Rush on November 11, 2022, 06:15:33 PM
Trump was NOT a fiscal conservative, which damaged the concept of a business person being the best to run the government.

He was still a damn sight better than any Democrat and many Republicans.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Lucifer on November 11, 2022, 09:22:10 PM
A lot can happen, and change, in the next two years.

We just witnessed yet another shit show of an election, and the democrat communist and their msm in conjunction with big tech has successfully turned the narrative away from the election to Trump.  And it’s working to their delight.

 
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Number7 on November 11, 2022, 09:40:05 PM
It is fucking amazing to me that the mushy middle, RINO republicans are so pathetic and willing to be led by the narrative created by the communist left, specifically to make sure that no matter who runs, nothing in DC changes.

The number of treasonous, faux conservatives running their mouths about President Trump is sickening.

Sheep is what they turned into overnight, right after their masters in the media told them to.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 11, 2022, 10:35:24 PM
He was still a damn sight better than any Democrat and many Republicans.
“Was” and I agree completely.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Lucifer on November 12, 2022, 10:43:56 AM
(http://www.pilotspin.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6674.0;attach=2990;image)
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Lucifer on November 12, 2022, 10:46:10 AM

  It's also this simple:

   McConnell

   McCarthy

   McDaniel


  McLOSERS
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 12, 2022, 10:59:43 AM
The bright new face of the Democratic Party. Hard to beat!

(http://)
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 12, 2022, 11:36:39 AM
https://www.uncoverdc.com/2022/11/10/maricopa-county-election-judge-speaks-out/
If she is correct the steal is in in Arizona
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 12, 2022, 05:24:41 PM
Yes, they’re dragging it out to try and cheat Hobbs in.

Kari Lake would slap up the wall, deport, investigate corruption, and tighten election security. Can’t have that!

It is possible they’re trying to prod Patriots into another J6 charade at that ballot counting center.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 12, 2022, 08:49:57 PM
So the news just popped up at 8:00 p.m. FIVE DAYS after Election Day that the Dems have “clinched control of the Senate.”

Nothing suspicious there.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 12, 2022, 11:25:32 PM
The bright new face of the Democratic Party. Hard to beat!

(http://)
Team Vegetable, sponsored by Campell’s chunky vegetable soup. 
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 13, 2022, 05:42:12 AM
So the news just popped up at 8:00 p.m. FIVE DAYS after Election Day that the Dems have “clinched control of the Senate.”

Nothing suspicious there.
Nevada created enough ballots to take out Laxalt.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 13, 2022, 05:42:43 AM
In a few more days Hobbs will have created enough ballots to take out Kari Lake.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 13, 2022, 05:43:44 AM
We've lost the country, time to admit that.  There is no way, with things as bad as they are, more Republicans weren't elected.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Number7 on November 13, 2022, 05:47:25 AM
I’ve noticed that every time it takes days and days to count votes hardly ever does a republican end up winning. only democrats seem to win.

I’m sure that’s just a coincidence.

Oddly republicans that would not support mcconnell and mccarthy neve seem to win.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Rush on November 13, 2022, 08:19:58 AM
https://www.creators.com/read/wayne-allyn-root/11/22/youve-been-gaslighted-its-clear-democrats-just-stole-another-election

Quote
You've Been Gaslighted: It's Clear Democrats Just Stole Another Election

When something is so obvious, if the outcome makes no sense, if the outcome is literally impossible, then it is what it is. Forget "proof." You know it. You saw it. You felt it. You experienced it. It happened. It's real.

It seems the 2022 midterm was just stolen. Just like 2020.

If you disagree, you're delusional, or terribly naive, or brain dead. Or you're in on the fix.

It's time to admit we're all part of a massive experiment in fraud, theft, brainwashing and gaslighting to a degree never seen in world history.

Think of all the times in just the past few years you've been gaslighted. I believe they lied to you about open borders...they lied about Hillary's 30,000 deleted emails... they lied about spying on former President Donald Trump... they lied about Russian collusion... they lied about a perfectly fine Ukrainian phone call... they lied about massive Biden corruption in Ukraine and China... they lied about the Hunter Biden laptop... they lied about the origins of COVID-19... they lied about the need for lockdowns and masks... they lied about the need for COVID-19 vaccines... they lied about the vaccines being "safe and effective"... they lied and covered up all the deaths and injuries from the vaccine... they lied about the success of miracle drugs hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin... they lied about the 2020 election...

You've been the victims of nonstop, severe gaslighting for a decade now. You're all part of a human psychology experiment in the limits that government and media can go in propaganda and brainwashing... while you can see they're lying right in front of your eyes.

And these are the exact same people now telling you Democrats just overperformed, and stopped a GOP red landslide, against all odds, without cheating and stealing the midterm election.

Historically, every president in history facing his first midterm experiences a tough day with automatically 20 to 30 House seats lost... and 4 or more Senate seats lost... and this terribly unpopular President Joe Biden appears brain-dead and with severe dementia and can't put three coherent sentences together. Yet Biden defied history?

While also facing the worst economy in modern history... and the worst inflation in America's history... and out-of-control crime... and open borders... and failing schools... and polls showing 75% of Americans believe the country is going in the wrong direction...Yet Biden beat all of that?

If you believe Democrats made a miracle happen, without cheating, rigging and stealing... I have a bridge to sell you, over the Atlantic Ocean, in the Vegas desert.

First, every poll in the country forecast a gigantic GOP landslide victory ranging from red wave to red tsunami. Polls even showed women moved 32 points from September to October in favor of the GOP.

But in the end, they all moved back to Biden and Democrats? Does that make sense to you?

Second, every poll in the country showed the top two issues, by a mile, were inflation and the economy. And crime was in second place, along with open borders.

And they all voted for Biden and the Democrats? Does that make sense to you?

CNN's own exit polls showed the GOP made massive gains among almost every voting group: men, women, white men, white women, black people, Hispanic people, young people. Everyone.

And they all voted for Biden and the Democrats? Does that make sense to you?

In this environment where Americans can't afford gas... or groceries... or rent... with the economy failing... inflation raging... scared to death of losing their jobs... living in cities plagued by violent crime, mass shoplifting, homelessness everywhere, streets lined with human waste and drug needles... and failing schools intent on teaching your children to become masked transgender people.

In this environment, they all voted for Biden and the Democrats? Does that make sense to you?

That they looked around at the disaster one man has created in only two years, and they defied a century of historic midterm defeats for the party in power... and voted for Democrats? Folks, you've been gaslighted.

But the real evidence the midterm was rigged and stolen is... FLORIDA.

In Florida the GOP won in a landslide. Gov. Ron DeSantis and Sen. Marco Rubio and everyone else in the Florida GOP won in a red tsunami — the same one the polls showed was happening in the entire country.

Guess what Florida has? Florida has strict voter ID requirements, strict laws against voter fraud, severe prison terms for anyone caught trying to commit voter fraud, no mail-in ballots sent to every voter, no ballot drop boxes, no ballot harvesting, no ballots accepted for days after Election Day and no counting for days until the desired result is achieved by the Democrat Party.

Isn't it a funny and strange coincidence that in that state, with all those strict rules against cheating, the GOP red tsunami happened as predicted? But everywhere else, where there are no strict laws against voter fraud and they allow cheating, the red tsunami fizzled.

And that underperformance is being blamed on Trump? And on conservative MAGA candidates?

Yet in Florida, DeSantis is the most Trumplike, MAGA, America First, anti-woke, anti-trans, in-your-face, ultraconservative politician in all of America. And with that ultra-MAGA message, plus strict voting fraud laws... the GOP swept to a landslide victory.

And in most other places, they didn't. Coincidence?

Folks, we've been robbed. Again. This was a repeat of 2020. I believe it's evident they've fixed, rigged and stolen the election. First, they robbed us of the presidency. Now they've robbed us of a red Republican landslide. And now they're trying to blame it on Trump.

This is gaslighting. And we've had our election stolen — again.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 15, 2022, 11:42:10 AM
I found a rare video of GOP leadership training exercises.

https://twitter.com/DarwinAwards_/status/1592282383226523648?s=20&t=9WoBG733FkqwiqGDyabIew
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Lucifer on November 17, 2022, 03:50:27 PM
November 14, 2022

How Wisconsin Streetfighters Disrupted a Democrat Ballot-Gathering System
By Jay Valentine

 
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/11/how_wisconsin_streetfighters_disrupted_a_democrat_ballotgathering_system.html
 
Ballots and votes.
 
These two words seem synonymous, yet they imply opposite ways to choose a government.
 
There is a big difference between "votes" and "ballots."  The Republicans focused on winning votes; the Democrats focused on gathering ballots.  The ballots won.
 
—Conservative Treehouse November 2022
 
When Election Day became Election Month, mail-in ballots replaced in-person voters, and the electoral world changed forever.  It is not changing back.
 
 
Democrats, expert in anything government-related, drove states to change laws, increase voting days, loosen voter standards.  Republican leadership dozed.
 
Democrats, leftist non-governmental organizations, Big Tech invented every conceivable way to manipulate the ballot process: collect ballots, drop into streetside bins, fill them out if the voter doesn't.
 
That is a ballot-gathering strategy.  It works!
 
Republicans remained stuck in the same "voter strategy" for the last decade: yard signs, fundraising, obscure websites, TV ads.
 
The raw material of the ballot-gathering strategy is the phantom voter or address.  Every ballot needs to tie to someone — even if only a name on a list.
 
Live, votable ballots accumulate at addresses where the indicated voter does not reside.  Those ballots, gathered, are the inventory of electoral victory.  He who gathers them can vote them.
 
The ballot-gathering system was frictionless until 2020.  Thousands of phantom addresses inhabited every state's voter list.
 
Clever leftists built a national system, ERIC, now used by about 30 states, to make sure voter rolls protected phantoms.  Using in-your-face messaging, ERIC claimed it was a resource to keep voter rolls clean.
 
No friction, no challenge.
 
After 2020, everything changed.
 
The once frictionless ballot-gathering apparatus was challenged in every state as voter integrity teams, citizens at kitchen tables, picked apart voter rolls.  They quickly found tens of thousands of dead or moved voters.  There were innumerable addresses where no voter could possibly live.
 
For the first time, there was pushback against ballot gathering.  Citizens demanded that voter rolls be cleaned, addresses be real.  In too many cases, affidavits with photographs of an empty lot where several voters claimed to live failed to convince a judge to action.
 
Not in Wisconsin.
 
Again, from the Conservative Treehouse:
 
Wisconsin tried essentially the same thing as PA and MI, except there was already residual election roll cleanup (hurts the ballot team) and strong election day turn out (helps vote team).
 
A Wisconsin voter integrity team found, after reviewing scores of counties and localities, that the number of ballots and votes cast lined up.
 
Democrats know how many votes they need and cast them during the forever campaign time in the name of phantoms.  Their ballot inventory comes from real ballots sent to fake addresses, then collected by someone — never a Republican — and voted.
 
When evaluating any system, one asks: is there an inherent contradiction?  Is there something in the system that, when pushed to scale, will make it fail or blow up or both?
 
Quiet, anonymous Wisconsin heroes — working in a small office, virtually unfunded — proved how to collapse the Democrat ballot-gathering apparatus.
 
For the ballot-gathering strategy to work, Democrats need tens of thousands of phantom addresses and voters.  A few is not enough.  Without thousands of loose ballots tied to phantoms, the edifice comes crashing down.
 
They also need Republicans to do nothing.
 
The Wisconsin team proved, in this election, that adding even a small amount of friction – removing thousands of phantom names and identifying several hundred thousand incorrect addresses — has a massive impact on the ballot-gathering system.
 
Our Wisconsin election heroes applied Fractal Programming technology, funded by Mike Lindell, at scale to find and challenge phantoms.  The process is explained at
www.Omega4America.com.
 
They went to scores of county registrars and challenged thousands of phantoms — proof in hand.  Quietly, below the radar, they showed registrars, whose job it is to deal with this sort of thing, that Bill Jones was not a real person.  They helped clean up addresses that were wrong — either typos or fake.
 
Any one of those addresses was a landing pad for a loose ballot.
 
On Election Day, the Wisconsin Democrats did not have enough phantoms or mail-in ballots to go around.  A Republican senator might have been saved by these actions.
 
The good news of the now permanent ballot-gathering strategy is that the Democrats need to keep voter rolls fat with the dead, people living in UPS boxes and R.V. parks.  They need to physically gather all those floating ballots and vote them.
 
Republicans have a different, less steep hill to climb: keep voter rolls as clean as possible.  Identify in advance where ballots will be mailed to addresses where nobody lives — and shut those ballots down.
 
For the Republicans, any friction injected into the ballot-gathering system has disproportionate benefits — so they have asymmetric advantages.
 
Votes require people, ballots require systems.  Republican officials, Republican politicians and the Republican voters need to switch the emphasis from people (votes and poll watchers) to systems in these states.
 
—Conservative Treehouse November 2022
 
Using Fractal Programming, the Wisconsin team showed the impact of introducing friction into the ballot-gathering system.  Even a little friction, and everything breaks down.  That is leverage, and that leverage is with the good guys.
 
The Fractal team is working in about twenty states, with a roll-out to all states for 2024.  Right now, Fractal analysis is provided by Mike Lindell and the Fractal team.  It needs to go national — injecting gravel into the Democrat ballot-gathering apparatus.
 
Organized voter ballot distribution, voter ballot delivery and ballot pickup systems need to be in place by the spring of 2023.  There should be no other priority for any Republican Party or politician in any state where ballot collection, mail-in ballots, ballot drop boxes, or ballot harvesting is permitted by law.
 
Stop campaigning for votes and immediately switch the entire political operation to electioneering for ballots.
 
—The Conservative Treehouse November 2022
 
Let us all how remember anonymous electoral streetfighters, with few resources, showed how even a little gravel tossed into the Democrats' ballot-gathering apparatus can disrupt a frictionless system in place for 30 years.
 
Let's go get more gravel.
 
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Rush on November 17, 2022, 05:07:27 PM
November 14, 2022

How Wisconsin Streetfighters Disrupted a Democrat Ballot-Gathering System
By Jay Valentine

 
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/11/how_wisconsin_streetfighters_disrupted_a_democrat_ballotgathering_system.html
 
Ballots and votes.
 
These two words seem synonymous, yet they imply opposite ways to choose a government.
 
There is a big difference between "votes" and "ballots."  The Republicans focused on winning votes; the Democrats focused on gathering ballots.  The ballots won.
 
—Conservative Treehouse November 2022
 
When Election Day became Election Month, mail-in ballots replaced in-person voters, and the electoral world changed forever.  It is not changing back.
 
 
Democrats, expert in anything government-related, drove states to change laws, increase voting days, loosen voter standards.  Republican leadership dozed.
 
Democrats, leftist non-governmental organizations, Big Tech invented every conceivable way to manipulate the ballot process: collect ballots, drop into streetside bins, fill them out if the voter doesn't.
 
That is a ballot-gathering strategy.  It works!
 
Republicans remained stuck in the same "voter strategy" for the last decade: yard signs, fundraising, obscure websites, TV ads.
 
The raw material of the ballot-gathering strategy is the phantom voter or address.  Every ballot needs to tie to someone — even if only a name on a list.
 
Live, votable ballots accumulate at addresses where the indicated voter does not reside.  Those ballots, gathered, are the inventory of electoral victory.  He who gathers them can vote them.
 
The ballot-gathering system was frictionless until 2020.  Thousands of phantom addresses inhabited every state's voter list.
 
Clever leftists built a national system, ERIC, now used by about 30 states, to make sure voter rolls protected phantoms.  Using in-your-face messaging, ERIC claimed it was a resource to keep voter rolls clean.
 
No friction, no challenge.
 
After 2020, everything changed.
 
The once frictionless ballot-gathering apparatus was challenged in every state as voter integrity teams, citizens at kitchen tables, picked apart voter rolls.  They quickly found tens of thousands of dead or moved voters.  There were innumerable addresses where no voter could possibly live.
 
For the first time, there was pushback against ballot gathering.  Citizens demanded that voter rolls be cleaned, addresses be real.  In too many cases, affidavits with photographs of an empty lot where several voters claimed to live failed to convince a judge to action.
 
Not in Wisconsin.
 
Again, from the Conservative Treehouse:
 
Wisconsin tried essentially the same thing as PA and MI, except there was already residual election roll cleanup (hurts the ballot team) and strong election day turn out (helps vote team).
 
A Wisconsin voter integrity team found, after reviewing scores of counties and localities, that the number of ballots and votes cast lined up.
 
Democrats know how many votes they need and cast them during the forever campaign time in the name of phantoms.  Their ballot inventory comes from real ballots sent to fake addresses, then collected by someone — never a Republican — and voted.
 
When evaluating any system, one asks: is there an inherent contradiction?  Is there something in the system that, when pushed to scale, will make it fail or blow up or both?
 
Quiet, anonymous Wisconsin heroes — working in a small office, virtually unfunded — proved how to collapse the Democrat ballot-gathering apparatus.
 
For the ballot-gathering strategy to work, Democrats need tens of thousands of phantom addresses and voters.  A few is not enough.  Without thousands of loose ballots tied to phantoms, the edifice comes crashing down.
 
They also need Republicans to do nothing.
 
The Wisconsin team proved, in this election, that adding even a small amount of friction – removing thousands of phantom names and identifying several hundred thousand incorrect addresses — has a massive impact on the ballot-gathering system.
 
Our Wisconsin election heroes applied Fractal Programming technology, funded by Mike Lindell, at scale to find and challenge phantoms.  The process is explained at
www.Omega4America.com.
 
They went to scores of county registrars and challenged thousands of phantoms — proof in hand.  Quietly, below the radar, they showed registrars, whose job it is to deal with this sort of thing, that Bill Jones was not a real person.  They helped clean up addresses that were wrong — either typos or fake.
 
Any one of those addresses was a landing pad for a loose ballot.
 
On Election Day, the Wisconsin Democrats did not have enough phantoms or mail-in ballots to go around.  A Republican senator might have been saved by these actions.
 
The good news of the now permanent ballot-gathering strategy is that the Democrats need to keep voter rolls fat with the dead, people living in UPS boxes and R.V. parks.  They need to physically gather all those floating ballots and vote them.
 
Republicans have a different, less steep hill to climb: keep voter rolls as clean as possible.  Identify in advance where ballots will be mailed to addresses where nobody lives — and shut those ballots down.
 
For the Republicans, any friction injected into the ballot-gathering system has disproportionate benefits — so they have asymmetric advantages.
 
Votes require people, ballots require systems.  Republican officials, Republican politicians and the Republican voters need to switch the emphasis from people (votes and poll watchers) to systems in these states.
 
—Conservative Treehouse November 2022
 
Using Fractal Programming, the Wisconsin team showed the impact of introducing friction into the ballot-gathering system.  Even a little friction, and everything breaks down.  That is leverage, and that leverage is with the good guys.
 
The Fractal team is working in about twenty states, with a roll-out to all states for 2024.  Right now, Fractal analysis is provided by Mike Lindell and the Fractal team.  It needs to go national — injecting gravel into the Democrat ballot-gathering apparatus.
 
Organized voter ballot distribution, voter ballot delivery and ballot pickup systems need to be in place by the spring of 2023.  There should be no other priority for any Republican Party or politician in any state where ballot collection, mail-in ballots, ballot drop boxes, or ballot harvesting is permitted by law.
 
Stop campaigning for votes and immediately switch the entire political operation to electioneering for ballots.
 
—The Conservative Treehouse November 2022
 
Let us all how remember anonymous electoral streetfighters, with few resources, showed how even a little gravel tossed into the Democrats' ballot-gathering apparatus can disrupt a frictionless system in place for 30 years.
 
Let's go get more gravel.

OMG YES.  Anybody still think the fucking Dems don’t cheat?
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on November 17, 2022, 06:04:58 PM
OMG YES.  Anybody still think the fucking Dems don’t cheat?

I will be having Thanksgiving dinner with my nephew and his new bride.

I'm sure we could get the conversation heated...

Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: nddons on November 17, 2022, 08:40:47 PM
November 14, 2022

How Wisconsin Streetfighters Disrupted a Democrat Ballot-Gathering System
By Jay Valentine

 
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/11/how_wisconsin_streetfighters_disrupted_a_democrat_ballotgathering_system.html
 
Ballots and votes.
 
These two words seem synonymous, yet they imply opposite ways to choose a government.
 
There is a big difference between "votes" and "ballots."  The Republicans focused on winning votes; the Democrats focused on gathering ballots.  The ballots won.
 
—Conservative Treehouse November 2022
 
When Election Day became Election Month, mail-in ballots replaced in-person voters, and the electoral world changed forever.  It is not changing back.
 
 
Democrats, expert in anything government-related, drove states to change laws, increase voting days, loosen voter standards.  Republican leadership dozed.
 
Democrats, leftist non-governmental organizations, Big Tech invented every conceivable way to manipulate the ballot process: collect ballots, drop into streetside bins, fill them out if the voter doesn't.
 
That is a ballot-gathering strategy.  It works!
 
Republicans remained stuck in the same "voter strategy" for the last decade: yard signs, fundraising, obscure websites, TV ads.
 
The raw material of the ballot-gathering strategy is the phantom voter or address.  Every ballot needs to tie to someone — even if only a name on a list.
 
Live, votable ballots accumulate at addresses where the indicated voter does not reside.  Those ballots, gathered, are the inventory of electoral victory.  He who gathers them can vote them.
 
The ballot-gathering system was frictionless until 2020.  Thousands of phantom addresses inhabited every state's voter list.
 
Clever leftists built a national system, ERIC, now used by about 30 states, to make sure voter rolls protected phantoms.  Using in-your-face messaging, ERIC claimed it was a resource to keep voter rolls clean.
 
No friction, no challenge.
 
After 2020, everything changed.
 
The once frictionless ballot-gathering apparatus was challenged in every state as voter integrity teams, citizens at kitchen tables, picked apart voter rolls.  They quickly found tens of thousands of dead or moved voters.  There were innumerable addresses where no voter could possibly live.
 
For the first time, there was pushback against ballot gathering.  Citizens demanded that voter rolls be cleaned, addresses be real.  In too many cases, affidavits with photographs of an empty lot where several voters claimed to live failed to convince a judge to action.
 
Not in Wisconsin.
 
Again, from the Conservative Treehouse:
 
Wisconsin tried essentially the same thing as PA and MI, except there was already residual election roll cleanup (hurts the ballot team) and strong election day turn out (helps vote team).
 
A Wisconsin voter integrity team found, after reviewing scores of counties and localities, that the number of ballots and votes cast lined up.
 
Democrats know how many votes they need and cast them during the forever campaign time in the name of phantoms.  Their ballot inventory comes from real ballots sent to fake addresses, then collected by someone — never a Republican — and voted.
 
When evaluating any system, one asks: is there an inherent contradiction?  Is there something in the system that, when pushed to scale, will make it fail or blow up or both?
 
Quiet, anonymous Wisconsin heroes — working in a small office, virtually unfunded — proved how to collapse the Democrat ballot-gathering apparatus.
 
For the ballot-gathering strategy to work, Democrats need tens of thousands of phantom addresses and voters.  A few is not enough.  Without thousands of loose ballots tied to phantoms, the edifice comes crashing down.
 
They also need Republicans to do nothing.
 
The Wisconsin team proved, in this election, that adding even a small amount of friction – removing thousands of phantom names and identifying several hundred thousand incorrect addresses — has a massive impact on the ballot-gathering system.
 
Our Wisconsin election heroes applied Fractal Programming technology, funded by Mike Lindell, at scale to find and challenge phantoms.  The process is explained at
www.Omega4America.com.
 
They went to scores of county registrars and challenged thousands of phantoms — proof in hand.  Quietly, below the radar, they showed registrars, whose job it is to deal with this sort of thing, that Bill Jones was not a real person.  They helped clean up addresses that were wrong — either typos or fake.
 
Any one of those addresses was a landing pad for a loose ballot.
 
On Election Day, the Wisconsin Democrats did not have enough phantoms or mail-in ballots to go around.  A Republican senator might have been saved by these actions.
 
The good news of the now permanent ballot-gathering strategy is that the Democrats need to keep voter rolls fat with the dead, people living in UPS boxes and R.V. parks.  They need to physically gather all those floating ballots and vote them.
 
Republicans have a different, less steep hill to climb: keep voter rolls as clean as possible.  Identify in advance where ballots will be mailed to addresses where nobody lives — and shut those ballots down.
 
For the Republicans, any friction injected into the ballot-gathering system has disproportionate benefits — so they have asymmetric advantages.
 
Votes require people, ballots require systems.  Republican officials, Republican politicians and the Republican voters need to switch the emphasis from people (votes and poll watchers) to systems in these states.
 
—Conservative Treehouse November 2022
 
Using Fractal Programming, the Wisconsin team showed the impact of introducing friction into the ballot-gathering system.  Even a little friction, and everything breaks down.  That is leverage, and that leverage is with the good guys.
 
The Fractal team is working in about twenty states, with a roll-out to all states for 2024.  Right now, Fractal analysis is provided by Mike Lindell and the Fractal team.  It needs to go national — injecting gravel into the Democrat ballot-gathering apparatus.
 
Organized voter ballot distribution, voter ballot delivery and ballot pickup systems need to be in place by the spring of 2023.  There should be no other priority for any Republican Party or politician in any state where ballot collection, mail-in ballots, ballot drop boxes, or ballot harvesting is permitted by law.
 
Stop campaigning for votes and immediately switch the entire political operation to electioneering for ballots.
 
—The Conservative Treehouse November 2022
 
Let us all how remember anonymous electoral streetfighters, with few resources, showed how even a little gravel tossed into the Democrats' ballot-gathering apparatus can disrupt a frictionless system in place for 30 years.
 
Let's go get more gravel.
I was literally not aware of this, in my home state. We have a problem with the Wisconsin Election Commission, which brilliantly has 3 Republicans and 3 democrats. So when the vote is even, the existing system stays in place, including some unlawful ones they occurred due to “Covid” in 2020.
Title: Re: MID TERM ELECTION RETURNS
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 19, 2022, 09:32:37 AM
I will be having Thanksgiving dinner with my nephew and his new bride.

I'm sure we could get the conversation heated...

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