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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Palmpilot on May 26, 2016, 12:35:06 AM

Title: "The Dangerous Acceptance of Donald Trump"
Post by: Palmpilot on May 26, 2016, 12:35:06 AM
Any merit to this?

http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump (http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump)
Title: Re: "The Dangerous Acceptance of Donald Trump"
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on May 26, 2016, 04:03:10 AM
how would this be different than the dangerous acceptance of the doormat?

Title: Re: "The Dangerous Acceptance of Donald Trump"
Post by: JeffDG on May 26, 2016, 06:12:47 AM
how would this be different than the dangerous acceptance of the doormat?
I see no particularly distinguishing features between them.
Title: Re: "The Dangerous Acceptance of Donald Trump"
Post by: asechrest on May 26, 2016, 06:42:45 AM
how would this be different than the dangerous acceptance of the doormat?

What a resounding endorsement of Mr. T.
Title: Re: "The Dangerous Acceptance of Donald Trump"
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on May 26, 2016, 08:25:57 AM
What a resounding endorsement of Mr. T.

don't expect me to be a cheerleader for the donald.

what a nightmare:  the donald vs the doormat.

Title: Re: "The Dangerous Acceptance of Donald Trump"
Post by: Dav8or on May 26, 2016, 09:10:16 AM
Any merit to this?

http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump (http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump)

Nice to see you Mr. Palm! Another Av board regular dipping their toes into the quagmire. Welcome.

There is some merit to what he writes with all his ivory tower prose, but it's mostly hyperbole. Trump is not Hitler, but he does seem to have a Hitleresque ability to make people blindly support him and he certainly has Hitler's belief in his own importance, but that's where the similarities end. Trump is closer to Saddam Hussein, or Mussolini than Hitler. Hitler was a modest man with a grand vision for his country's future, the later two were self aggrandizing egotists with grand visions for their personal futures. This describes Trump too.

IMO, Trump is a terrible choice for president and so is Clinton and so is Sanders. So far we are triple screwed. I will not be voting for any of them. How America can have lifted these three up as the best candidates for the highest office in the land is well beyond my comprehension.
Title: Re: "The Dangerous Acceptance of Donald Trump"
Post by: Little Joe on May 26, 2016, 05:52:39 PM
What a resounding endorsement of Mr. T.
Who says that a vote for Trump must be a resounding endorsement of him.  My vote for him is a resounding rejection of Hillary.
Title: Re: "The Dangerous Acceptance of Donald Trump"
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 26, 2016, 08:30:27 PM
Who says that a vote for Trump must be a resounding endorsement of him.  My vote for him is a resounding rejection of Hillary.

You see, the Cruzers want to have it both ways.  Their guy couldn't attract enough voters to beat Trump so by not backing him now and not voting they will be able to have it both ways.  If Hillary is elected and gets to appoint 2,3,4 SCOTUS judges and royally fucks up the country they can say it wasn't their fault because they didn't put her in office and if Trump gets elected and does poorly they'll also be able to say it wasn't their fault.  It's the easy way out.  It won't stop them from complaining about it all though and telling us how different things would have been with Cruz, who didn't stand a snow balls chance in hell of winning.  Hell he couldn't even get his own party to vote for him.
Title: Re: "The Dangerous Acceptance of Donald Trump"
Post by: bflynn on May 26, 2016, 08:41:12 PM
Any merit to this?

http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump (http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump)

An article from the New Yorker that presumes any acceptance of Trump must be dangerous?

Nope.  No merit at all. 
Title: Re: "The Dangerous Acceptance of Donald Trump"
Post by: Palmpilot on May 27, 2016, 07:50:32 AM
An article from the New Yorker that presumes any acceptance of Trump must be dangerous?

Nope.  No merit at all.

I was kind of wondering how many people would reject his concerns because of where they were published.  ;)
Title: Re: "The Dangerous Acceptance of Donald Trump"
Post by: Palmpilot on May 27, 2016, 07:58:10 AM
how would this be different than the dangerous acceptance of the doormat?

One of the leading candidates seems much more likely to trash the Constitution than the other. I suspect not everyone agrees on which one that is.  ;D
Title: Re: "The Dangerous Acceptance of Donald Trump"
Post by: Dav8or on May 27, 2016, 08:56:30 AM
One of the leading candidates seems much more likely to trash the Constitution than the other. I suspect not everyone agrees on which one that is.  ;D

They'll work it out together at Trump's next cocktail party.
Title: Re: "The Dangerous Acceptance of Donald Trump"
Post by: nddons on May 27, 2016, 09:02:01 AM
They'll work it out together at Trump's next WEDDING.
FTFY
Title: Re: "The Dangerous Acceptance of Donald Trump"
Post by: Anthony on May 28, 2016, 05:33:14 AM
New Yorker magazine?  Really?
Title: Re: "The Dangerous Acceptance of Donald Trump"
Post by: bflynn on May 28, 2016, 06:55:25 AM
I was kind of wondering how many people would reject his concerns because of where they were published.  ;)

I think it's more that I reject the premise of the question.  Acceptance of Donald Trump is not dangerous.

I'm still not voting for him for conscience reasons, but those who opposed him before and accept him now are not doing a dangerous thing.
Title: Re: "The Dangerous Acceptance of Donald Trump"
Post by: Palmpilot on May 28, 2016, 07:10:27 AM
I think it's more that I reject the premise of the question.  Acceptance of Donald Trump is not dangerous.

I'm still not voting for him for conscience reasons, but those who opposed him before and accept him now are not doing a dangerous thing.

I hope you're right.
Title: Re: "The Dangerous Acceptance of Donald Trump"
Post by: Little Joe on May 28, 2016, 05:09:10 PM
I think it's more that I reject the premise of the question.  Acceptance of Donald Trump is not dangerous.

I'm still not voting for him for conscience reasons, but those who opposed him before and accept him now are not doing a dangerous thing.
I'm voting for him because the 15 other Republicans that I would have preferred all dropped out.