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Title: Ante up
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 03, 2018, 04:29:16 PM
What’s your best prediction for Tuesday’s results?

I have no idea who this person is, but their numbers please me, so I’m going to be optimistic.

https://fleporeblog.wordpress.com

I’ll say the Republicans win bigly. No lost seats.  MAGA must go on; the universe will decree it, say I.

No matter what happens, the Dems will make life hell for us all. We must burn our light so brightly that they fade into media blackout.
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: Lucifer on November 03, 2018, 04:37:25 PM
Senate stays republican with a few seat pick ups.

House?  I think the republicans have the edge, but at this point it will be close.

Early voting has been huge for a mid term, and that's good for republicans.  Also the dims have no message, except for resist! and "Hate Trump".  Also the mobs and the liberal hate and violence has been full court, 24/7 in the media.

 Obama can't fill a high school gymnasium when he campaigns, and Trump is setting record level rallies.  Republicans are extremely motivated, and this is scaring the shit out of the liberals.

 I think Tuesday is setting itself up to be 2016 all over again.
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 03, 2018, 04:53:29 PM
I'm nervous
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: bflynn on November 03, 2018, 04:57:14 PM
House goes Democrat, but the Blue wave is more of a Blue ripple.  I think the Dems get 225 seats.

Senate goes 53-47. 
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: Rush on November 03, 2018, 05:05:26 PM
I'm too scared to even think about it. Might have to resort to alcohol.
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: Lucifer on November 03, 2018, 05:31:18 PM
One tell tale sign right now is the anger of the liberals.  For a party who is expecting a big win come Tuesday night, the angry rhetoric has been ratcheting up.  This is not the jubilation that they will soon control congress and get their chance to undo Trump.  This is anger, the anger of losing.

  I think the reality is beginning to set in.
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: azure on November 03, 2018, 06:12:45 PM
House goes Democrat, but the Blue wave is more of a Blue ripple.  I think the Dems get 225 seats.

Senate goes 53-47.

Agree. House gets a narrow Blue majority, Senate stays Red.
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 03, 2018, 06:44:13 PM
I'm too scared to even think about it. Might have to resort to alcohol.
I died a thousand deaths in the runup to the 2016 election. This one doesn’t seem as potentially bad as that.

But then, I read WalkAways every day, and see the Dems bleeding. Let’s hope the only alcohol needed will be to cleanse the Dems’ wounds from voter backlash. :)
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 04, 2018, 05:27:28 AM
Does this say anything about Tuesday........
pic.twitter.com/ghqxPXmsh6 (https://t.co/ghqxPXmsh6)
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: Anthony on November 04, 2018, 06:34:33 AM
House narrowly stays Republican.  Senate stays status quo.  The Democrats in my area on the state, and Fed level are all using the same four talking points in their ads.  Most of the candidates are female.  They are ALL trying to pass themselves off as "Independents".  In other words they are attempting to deceive (lie). 
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: Lucifer on November 04, 2018, 06:51:43 AM
Does this say anything about Tuesday........
pic.twitter.com/ghqxPXmsh6 (https://t.co/ghqxPXmsh6)

Very telling.  The republican base is very energized, and traditionally if the voter turn out is high in a midterm the republicans do very well.

BHO is out campaigning and he can't even fill a high school gymnasium.  Since he believes he was such a popular president, why isn't he attracting thousands to hear him speak about himself?

 The MSM was super careful to crop the video of BHO's self congratulatory tour to make it look like more people were there.
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: Lucifer on November 04, 2018, 06:52:01 AM
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Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: Lucifer on November 04, 2018, 07:05:57 AM
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Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: Lucifer on November 04, 2018, 07:06:49 AM
The gift that keeps giving:

Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 04, 2018, 07:53:18 AM
Wow, she is so very out of touch with reality. So much lying. Plus, that “mocked a disabled reporter” thing is so debunked as to be nonexistent. Good luck trying to keep hate alive when there’s nothing there.

In fact, the “mocked a disabled reporter” thing is what red pilled Brandon Straka, who went on to found WalkAway Campaign. If any of you have friends or relatives who are clinging to that accusation, there’s plenty of debunking video out there. It’s the same exact gesture President Trump makes when referring to people who lie or can’t remember something. He did it when talking about a general, and when talking about Ted Cruz. Trump didn’t know the reporter or that he was disabled. And even if he had, the disability involves stillness of the arm, not waving.
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 04, 2018, 07:57:06 AM
Very telling.  The republican base is very energized, and traditionally if the voter turn out is high in a midterm the republicans do very well.

BHO is out campaigning and he can't even fill a high school gymnasium.  Since he believes he was such a popular president, why isn't he attracting thousands to hear him speak about himself?

 The MSM was super careful to crop the video of BHO's self congratulatory tour to make it look like more people were there.
The video is most telling because there are former Democrats in that crowd. Romney had big crowds, but most of the Dems who walked away did so during Obama’s second term, when Hillary was nominated in 2016, and during the Kavanaugh hearings.
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: Number7 on November 04, 2018, 08:06:51 PM
I suspect we hold the house and expand by four our hold on the Senate.

Once the lunatics, whiners, criminals and communists get over the shock, they will quiet down and go back to obsessing on the Kardashians and how hard it is to do their own laundry and drive.
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: Jim Logajan on November 04, 2018, 11:05:00 PM
Democrats take the house and senate.
Trump and Pence are impeached and removed from office.
The speaker of the house, now a democrat, becomes president.
The new president nominates Hillary Clinton to her previous role as Secretary of State.
The president and vice president then step aside (or have an untimely accident) and Hillary becomes president per line of succession.

Meanwhile, Romulans in collusion with Russians cross the Rio Grande disguised as anchor babies....
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: bflynn on November 05, 2018, 05:51:58 AM
Yeah, I laugh every time I hear a Democrat say they are going to impeach Trump and remove him from office.  I’m thinking “ok, you might have a majority in the House to make the accusation, but where are you going to find 67 senators to agree?” 

A Blue Whimper.
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: Username on November 05, 2018, 07:34:13 AM
The good news is that we'll be done with all this madness Tuesday night.  The bad news is that Wednesday morning starts the 2020 presidential campaign.
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: Lucifer on November 05, 2018, 08:24:35 AM
Trump is impeached and removed, and Pense becomes president.
Pense pardons Trump and nominated him as VP.
Pense resigns as President and Trump becomes President.
Trump nominates Pense as VP. 

Liberal heads start exploding.
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: bflynn on November 05, 2018, 09:21:29 AM
Actually, some have already started 2020.
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 05, 2018, 09:46:39 AM
Someone attempted an air drop of pro-Republican pamphlets over Austin?

Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 05, 2018, 09:47:44 AM
Democrats take the house and senate.
Trump and Pence are impeached and removed from office.
The speaker of the house, now a democrat, becomes president.
The new president nominates Hillary Clinton to her previous role as Secretary of State.
The president and vice president then step aside (or have an untimely accident) and Hillary becomes president per line of succession.

Meanwhile, Romulans in collusion with Russians cross the Rio Grande disguised as anchor babies....
She is ready!

Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: Little Joe on November 05, 2018, 11:29:45 AM
I'm too scared to even think about it. Might have to resort to alcohol.
Same here, except that I will resort to alcohol, regardless of which way it goes.

But I too am worried.  I have been to the library twice this week where they are conducting early voting.  From my four observations (coming and going, twice) the vast majority of people in line were women or blacks.  Nothing wrong with that, except that women and blacks overwhelmingly vote D.
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 06, 2018, 09:05:28 AM
We are in a war to defend the greatest nation on earth from destruction from within, and to defend the freedoms granted by its worthy Constitution.

Today we are in a battle in that war. If we win this battle, we must not be complacent. If we lose this battle, we must not be discouraged.

Either way, we must continue to be vigilant and outspoken and actively fight. The left will not rest, nor can we.
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: Anthony on November 06, 2018, 09:13:45 AM
We are in a war to defend the greatest nation on earth from destruction from within, and to defend the freedoms granted by its worthy Constitution.

Today we are in a battle in that war. If we win this battle, we must not be complacent. If we lose this battle, we must not be discouraged.

Either way, we must continue to be vigilant and outspoken and actively fight. The left will not rest, nor can we.

America is deciding for, or against Fundamental Transformation.  We are pretty evenly split, so every vote counts. 
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: bflynn on November 06, 2018, 09:49:12 AM
I wonder if Rome was like this...that people knew what was happening, but those bent on selfishness didn't care.
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: acrogimp on November 06, 2018, 10:03:53 AM
I wonder if Rome was like this...that people knew what was happening, but those bent on selfishness didn't care.
funny you ask this, as I have been thinking on this subject a lot as we roll into today's midterms - overall, the Nation is substantially better off than it was 2 years ago, 6, 8, 10 even - yet there are a large number of people who will, for reasons good, bad or indifferent, choose to change the makeup of your government which can only result in a change in direction which will yield a slowing of this progress at best, a complete course reversal at worst.

I wonder how can anyone knowingly vote against their own interests, but then you look at the overwhelming presence of liberalism in pop-culture; primary, secondary and higher education; 90-ish percent of the media; and throughout the agencies and offices at a national state and local level and sometimes it is amazing anyone votes for conservatives at all.

To watch the lamestream media over the past month you would think anyone who does not want to see Trump ded is a full-on racist, misogynist, homophobic nazi bigot demon from the planet Antares here to give cigarettes to your babies - in the face of that constant vitriolic onslaught it is no wonder we see the actual political violence we are witnessing - I mean if a normal person had a chance to stop Hitler wouldn't they do it?

Of course Trump isn't Hitler, the half of the country that supported Trump are not nazi's or racists, but if people think that we are, what is to stop them from acting out?

I am cautiously optimistic for today but we will have to really turn out to overcome the margin of fraud.

'Gimp
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: Lucifer on November 06, 2018, 10:10:02 AM
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Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: invflatspin on November 06, 2018, 10:10:40 AM
Someone attempted an air drop of pro-Republican pamphlets over Austin?

You know the city slogan - right?

"Keep Austin weird".

Task - accomplished.
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: invflatspin on November 06, 2018, 10:28:11 AM
I wonder if Rome was like this...that people knew what was happening, but those bent on selfishness didn't care.

I'm a fan of all things Roman history. the saddest part is that the history of Rome has been written almost exclusively from the perspective of the landed aristocracy. If you want to know something about the true proletariat of Rome(including the vast vassal states under Rome), pickings are very thin.

Of course, Gibbon provides the best if only guide to the decline of the empire, but there are some other texts that provide help. Many of them are from Brit publishers. Also, "Rome" changed so significantly over the history of their empire that getting a clear picture of the time is very very hard. I will say this about it, as Rome aged - they moved from an almost pure Republic to something that had the appearance of Democracy, but was actually a Plutocracy where laws ran into even the most pedestrian of things, including laws like the days that people(prols) were allowed to shop in markets(not kidding), and that markets would sometimes be open only to the upper echelons of society. 

To answer your question, I would say that during the most critical of time in Rome from 33 BC to 326 AD that yes - most citizens of Rome realized they were in for a rough go. To find an interesting answer to your question, look at the population of the city from those dates, and you may find an enlightening answer. (326 AD, Constantine the Great moves the capital of the empire from the City of Rome to Byzantium and of course, renames it 'Constantinople'. lolz...
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: Lucifer on November 06, 2018, 01:56:17 PM
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Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: bflynn on November 06, 2018, 02:05:36 PM
A public service reminder for all Democrats - if you wait to vote until tomorrow, you can vote for all the winners.

That is all
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: asechrest on November 06, 2018, 03:49:51 PM

I voted a mixture of Democrats and Republicans. And for the constitutional amendments, for the first time, I read the opinions of the Libertarian Party of FL.
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: invflatspin on November 06, 2018, 04:26:42 PM
I love you, man!  8)

(no, not that way, snort)
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: bflynn on November 06, 2018, 08:09:26 PM
Just realized that I never posted my House prediction here.  I did it on another board at 13. I am thinking now that is a bit low, but too late to change.

I called 53 Senators, may be 54.
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: asechrest on November 06, 2018, 08:33:44 PM
I love you, man!  8)

(no, not that way, snort)

I voted DeSantis (R) for Gov. I voted Nelson (D) for Senator, which I was very much torn on, but I struggle greatly with Scott's history at Columbia/HCA. Moody (R) for Attorney General. Jeremy Ring (D) for CFO, primarily because I've met him in person and spent about two hours discussing the issues with him in my office. Bilirakis (R) for US House. (R) for Agriculture Commissioner. James Grant (R) for State House, who I've also met and discussed issues with.

No on all state const. amendments (https://www.lpf.org/2018-amendments/) except restoring felon voting rights and requiring supermajority vote for raising taxes.
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 06, 2018, 08:48:48 PM
I wish everyone voted as thoughtfully as you. And of course, me. 🙂

It’s a real problem when people treat politics and voting like sports teams. There’s so much at stake.
Title: Re: Ante up
Post by: azure on November 08, 2018, 09:46:21 AM
FWIW... I voted for Scott (R) for governor, Zupan (R) for Senate, and Welch (D) for House. Zupan was almost a no-brainer as I was not going to vote for Sanders, even though I knew he would win. But I was ready to sit the Senate race out until I heard Zupan debate Sanders... he was reasonable, consistent, and had good answers to all of Sanders's (well, he really only has one) points. On Welch vs. Tynio, I wanted to like Tynio but was not impressed with her in the debate. Welch, on the other hand, even though he is in favor of single-payer and most of the rest of the Dem agenda, seems to have a nuanced, well-thought-out understanding of both health care and energy economics.

On the local level I voted for a mixture of Ds and Rs, and one P, an incumbent who has done a generally good job in the state senate since 2011.