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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: PropWash on January 08, 2021, 02:44:47 PM

Title: This might not be over
Post by: PropWash on January 08, 2021, 02:44:47 PM
What if Trump has everything he needs to convict congress of treason via a military tribunal?  Something like this could very well go down prior to the 20th.  Regardless of what the MSM says, Trump has not conceded this election.  I think this has been in the works for years.  Trump has given everyone guilty an out and they continue to think they are above the law.  It's now time for him to throw down the gauntlet.  Lots going on right now behind the senes
Title: Re: This might not be over
Post by: Lucifer on January 08, 2021, 02:50:23 PM
Not gonna happen.
Title: Re: This might not be over
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 08, 2021, 02:59:10 PM
A bit far fetched I’d say.
Title: Re: This might not be over
Post by: elwood blues on January 08, 2021, 03:16:13 PM
I don't think that's gonna happen, but he could release some damning classified documents.
Title: Re: This might not be over
Post by: Jim Logajan on January 08, 2021, 03:22:15 PM
According to Wikipedia the U.S. Supreme court “unanimously ruled that military tribunals used to try civilians in any jurisdiction where the civil courts were functioning were unconstitutional, with its decision in Ex parte Milligan (1866).”
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_tribunals_in_the_United_States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_tribunals_in_the_United_States))

Further, nothing congress did fits the legal definition of treason.

Lastly - WTF??
Title: Re: This might not be over
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 08, 2021, 04:00:22 PM
According to Wikipedia the U.S. Supreme court “unanimously ruled that military tribunals used to try civilians in any jurisdiction where the civil courts were functioning were unconstitutional, with its decision in Ex parte Milligan (1866).”
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_tribunals_in_the_United_States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_tribunals_in_the_United_States))

Further, nothing congress did fits the legal definition of treason.

Lastly - WTF??


Trolled?
Title: Re: This might not be over
Post by: Lucifer on January 08, 2021, 04:06:25 PM

Trolled?

Don't think so.  The OP lurks here often and doesn't post much.  We still welcome his input and thoughts, and participation.
Title: Re: This might not be over
Post by: PropWash on January 08, 2021, 04:35:26 PM
Don't think so.  The OP lurks here often and doesn't post much.  We still welcome his input and thoughts, and participation.

Nope not a troll guys.  Not a big poster either.  I loathe liberals so much that my anger towards them clouds my ability to articulate anything intelligent and I always seem to resort to one way I want to deal with them hence the reason I don't post often.
Title: Re: This might not be over
Post by: Kristin on January 08, 2021, 04:42:03 PM
Nope not a troll guys.  Not a big poster either.  I loathe liberals so much that my anger towards them clouds my ability to articulate anything intelligent and I always seem to resort to one way I want to deal with them hence the reason I don't post often.

That is a stunning and revelatory comment.  Perhaps it is time for some therapy into the roots of you anger that by your own admission makes it impossible for you to deal intelligently.  Sadly, you are not remotely alone.
Title: Re: This might not be over
Post by: bflynn on January 08, 2021, 04:52:26 PM
Nope not a troll guys.  Not a big poster either.  I loathe liberals so much that my anger towards them clouds my ability to articulate anything intelligent and I always seem to resort to one way I want to deal with them hence the reason I don't post often.

Well, you should fit right in here.
Title: Re: This might not be over
Post by: Lucifer on January 08, 2021, 04:56:34 PM
Well, you should fit right in here.

Thought you were going to go heal your butthurt?
Title: Re: This might not be over
Post by: PropWash on January 08, 2021, 05:06:51 PM
That is a stunning and revelatory comment.  Perhaps it is time for some therapy into the roots of you anger that by your own admission makes it impossible for you to deal intelligently.  Sadly, you are not remotely alone.

No therapy needed here sweetheart.  Liberalism is a disgusting repulsive disease, and anyone who thinks the liberal agenda has anything to do with American values and principles is fucking clueless.  I wish more people would take the time to inform themselves.
Title: Re: This might not be over
Post by: Kristin on January 08, 2021, 05:11:50 PM
No therapy needed here sweetheart.  Liberalism is a disgusting repulsive disease, and anyone who thinks the liberal agenda has anything to do with American values and principles is fucking clueless.  I wish more people would take the time to inform themselves.

So you hate all these liberal programs:

Medicare
Social Security
Civil Rights Acts
Various welfare programs
Depression era work programs

Just to name a few big ones.

Perhaps you need to define what you think the "liberal agenda" is.
Title: Re: This might not be over
Post by: nddons on January 08, 2021, 05:20:59 PM
So you hate all these liberal programs:

Medicare
Social Security
Civil Rights Acts
Various welfare programs
Depression era work programs

Just to name a few big ones.

Perhaps you need to define what you think the "liberal agenda" is.
The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a liberal program?  You need to check your history.  Wikipedia works.
Title: Re: This might not be over
Post by: PropWash on January 08, 2021, 05:23:58 PM
So you hate all these liberal programs:

Medicare
Social Security
Civil Rights Acts
Various welfare programs
Depression era work programs

Just to name a few big ones.


Perhaps you need to define what you think the "liberal agenda" is.

Yes sweetheart I do take issue with some of those programs.  And no I am not going to waste my time defining to you what the liberal agenda is.  I've got much better things to do than engage in a trite back and forth with a liberal on the internet.

As for my original comment, I will expect beers from my conservative counterparts if there is a thread of truth to what I say......and I will seek you out!
Title: Re: This might not be over
Post by: nudnik on January 08, 2021, 05:40:37 PM
The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a liberal program?  You need to check your history.  Wikipedia works.

It was still a liberal program. It was opposed by Southern Democrats, but they weren't liberals at the time. It wasn't really until some time later that the parties got aligned so much on liberal/conservative boundaries.

Heck if Nixon were to run today, half of his policies would be considered far left.
Title: Re: This might not be over
Post by: nddons on January 08, 2021, 05:51:54 PM
No therapy needed here sweetheart.  Liberalism is a disgusting repulsive disease, and anyone who thinks the liberal agenda has anything to do with American values and principles is fucking clueless.  I wish more people would take the time to inform themselves.
You fit right in here sir. Cheers! 
Title: Re: This might not be over
Post by: nddons on January 08, 2021, 05:54:22 PM
It was still a liberal program. It was opposed by Southern Democrats, but they weren't liberals at the time. It wasn't really until some time later that the parties got aligned so much on liberal/conservative boundaries.

Heck if Nixon were to run today, half of his policies would be considered far left.
Oh, so you’re one of those “Republicans and Democrats changed jerseys during the civil right debate” guys.

How does that Kool-Aid taste?
Title: Re: This might not be over
Post by: bflynn on January 08, 2021, 06:24:57 PM
It was still a liberal program. It was opposed by Southern Democrats, but they weren't liberals at the time. It wasn't really until some time later that the parties got aligned so much on liberal/conservative boundaries.

Heck if Nixon were to run today, half of his policies would be considered far left.

And if Kennedy were to run today, he couldn’t win the Democrat primary for dog catcher.

The Civil Rights Act was championed by Republicans. It was filibustered by Democrats. The civil rights movement came out of the religious world, it was churches of all color that backed it.
Title: Re: This might not be over
Post by: Rush on January 08, 2021, 06:37:35 PM
Yes sweetheart I do take issue with some of those programs.  And no I am not going to waste my time defining to you what the liberal agenda is.  I've got much better things to do than engage in a trite back and forth with a liberal on the internet.

As for my original comment, I will expect beers from my conservative counterparts if there is a thread of truth to what I say......and I will seek you out!

I want beer! My only issue with what you’re saying is I’d prefer the term “progressive” or “leftist” over liberal, or even “fucking communist”. But other than that, carry on.

Title: Re: This might not be over
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 08, 2021, 07:16:07 PM
Social Security = forced savings with a shitty ROI.
Title: Re: This might not be over
Post by: Kristin on January 08, 2021, 08:24:01 PM
The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a liberal program?  You need to check your history.  Wikipedia works.

Yes, in the classic definition of liberal.  Probably not in your reimagining of its meaning.
Title: Re: This might not be over
Post by: Kristin on January 08, 2021, 08:27:40 PM
Yes sweetheart I do take issue with some of those programs.  And no I am not going to waste my time defining to you what the liberal agenda is.  I've got much better things to do than engage in a trite back and forth with a liberal on the internet.

As for my original comment, I will expect beers from my conservative counterparts if there is a thread of truth to what I say......and I will seek you out!

IOW, you have no coherent definition other than your mindless tribalism uses it to mean anyone who don't agree with your angry, narrow-mindedness.  Got it!
Title: Re: This might not be over
Post by: Lucifer on January 08, 2021, 08:29:02 PM
IOW, you have no coherent definition other than your mindless tribalism uses it to mean anyone who don't agree with your angry, narrow-mindedness.  Got it!

Projection in action.

Title: Re: This might not be over
Post by: Number7 on January 08, 2021, 08:34:32 PM
That is a stunning and revelatory comment.  Perhaps it is time for some therapy into the roots of you anger that by your own admission makes it impossible for you to deal intelligently.  Sadly, you are not remotely alone.

The asshole speaks but says nothing of substance,.... again.
Title: Re: This might not be over
Post by: Kristin on January 08, 2021, 08:39:18 PM
And if Kennedy were to run today, he couldn’t win the Democrat primary for dog catcher.

The Civil Rights Act was championed by Republicans. It was filibustered by Democrats. The civil rights movement came out of the religious world, it was churches of all color that backed it.

Very misleading and only partially true.  !  The bill was introduced in the house by a Democrat.  It was approved by the Democrat controlled House of Representatives.  In the Democrat controlled Senate, conservative, southern Democrats filibustered the bill.  The filibuster was broken by 27 Republicans and 44 Democrats.  It was signed into law by a Democrat.  It can not be said that the GOP was the "champion" of the legislation.  They did not write it and it wasn't GOP votes other than in the Senate to break the filibuster, that got it through.

https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/generic/CivilRightsAct1964.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964
Title: Re: This might not be over
Post by: Little Joe on January 09, 2021, 05:46:05 AM
That is a stunning and revelatory comment.  Perhaps it is time for some therapy into the roots of you anger that by your own admission makes it impossible for you to deal intelligently.  Sadly, you are not remotely alone.
No he's not.  My liberal wife and all of her liberal family is the same way.  That's why we never discuss politics with each other.
Title: Re: This might not be over
Post by: Anthony on January 09, 2021, 06:04:00 AM
Nope not a troll guys.  Not a big poster either.  I loathe liberals so much that my anger towards them clouds my ability to articulate anything intelligent and I always seem to resort to one way I want to deal with them hence the reason I don't post often.

It's getting to the point the only way to deal with them is with a barrel of a gun.  Legally, and just by the Police of course.     ::)
Title: Re: This might not be over
Post by: Anthony on January 09, 2021, 06:06:55 AM
I want beer! My only issue with what you’re saying is I’d prefer the term “progressive” or “leftist” over liberal, or even “fucking communist”. But other than that, carry on.

But, you will only get Government Legalized Pot to numb you and make you docile, dependent and easily controlled.