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Title: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Lucifer on September 12, 2023, 09:10:30 AM
https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1701625269738525137
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Lucifer on September 12, 2023, 09:12:18 AM
I guess we'll see another Trump indictment soon.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Lucifer on September 12, 2023, 08:37:29 PM


McCarthy Announces He Has Greenlit A Probe To Examine The Possibility Of Investigating Preliminary Meetings Into Whether Or Not They Should Begin To Consider The Future Likelihood Of Hypothetical Impeachment Hearings Sometime Later Down The Road



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WASHINGTON, D.C. — In what might be a stunning possibility of a development, House Speaker Kevin McCarthy finally announced he has greenlit a probe to determine whether or not there may be, at some point, the potential to investigate the possibility of considering having hypothetical meetings to maybe discuss having further discussions about perhaps thinking about launching impeachment proceedings against an alleged individual who may or may not be President Joe Biden at an undetermined date at some point in the future.

"I can confirm that it is a solid possibility," McCarthy said when making the announcement. "There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that we might do it. I am, without any hesitation, firmly committed to potentially following through with this. There is definitely a strong desire to maybe launch an impeachment probe to investigate the initial idea of doing something. Absolutely maybe."

The outcry from the American people and prominent conservative political pundits has only grown louder over the last several months as new allegations regarding President Biden's corruption have been brought to light. In response, McCarthy stressed the need for caution. "We simply cannot rush into this type of investigation without evidence," he said. "If we were to be presented with a seventh or eighth mountain of clear evidence, it may persuade us to tentatively schedule preliminary meetings to talk about a non-specific framework of a hypothetical probe."

At publishing time, rumors from Capitol Hill sources indicated McCarthy would be ready to move forward with impeachment proceedings as soon as he came up with the best way to obstruct it.





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Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Lucifer on September 13, 2023, 04:31:24 AM
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Username on September 13, 2023, 05:22:45 AM
Sitting in a hotel breakfast area on a road trip I actually watched a little CNN.  Yep, clearly FJB did nothing wrong.  The investigation is going forward on a whim.  There is no evidence or direct links.  One "anchor" said that his head is going to explode with all the nonsense from the extreme right wing of the GOP.  Totally unlike the hard evidence that Trump is a felon.  Nothing to see here.

It's very clear that CNN is circling the drain.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 13, 2023, 05:34:18 AM
The Bee has it right.  McCarthy is just trying to save his ass with an inquiry. Nothing will come of it.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Username on September 13, 2023, 05:39:23 AM
The Bee has it right.  McCarthy is just trying to save his ass with an inquiry. Nothing will come of it.
I'm really hoping that something actually will come of it.  But I'm afraid that you're right.  This is just political posturing.  The establishment state runs deep.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Username on September 13, 2023, 07:15:21 AM
Ah, he's just PROPOSING an inquiry. The Bee is great at reporting real news.
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/09/12/mccarthy-stops-short-of-calling-for-vote-on-impeachment-inquiry/

Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) announced the start of an impeachment inquiry Tuesday into President Joe Biden over his family’s businesses. But he stopped short of calling for a vote to authorize the inquiry.

It may be that McCarthy lacks the votes. Regardless, unless there is a formal vote to authorize an impeachment inquiry, Republicans will soon find themselves arguing, as Democrats tried in 2019, that they do not need such a vote before they begin. Meanwhile, the Biden White House can refuse to comply with congressional subpoenas, setting up court fights and dragging out the inquiry process for years, meaning there will be no real accountability.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 13, 2023, 07:42:35 AM
I remember a guy I once dated started talking about us getting married maybe. Shocked, as I didn’t feel that way at all at the time (later either, as it turned out), I asked what time line he was looking at.

His answer was pure McCarthy: “The long-term immediate near future.” 
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Anthony on September 13, 2023, 09:34:54 AM
I remember a guy I once dated started talking about us getting married maybe. Shocked, as I didn’t feel that way at all at the time (later either, as it turned out), I asked what time line he was looking at.

His answer was pure McCarthy: “The long-term immediate near future.”

That's just cause to dump him right there. Duh!
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Little Joe on September 13, 2023, 10:20:29 AM
That's just cause to dump him right there. Duh!
The guy was either a politician (most likely liberal), which is certainly just cause to dump him.

Or he was joking.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Rush on September 13, 2023, 10:37:29 AM
I remember a guy I once dated started talking about us getting married maybe. Shocked, as I didn’t feel that way at all at the time (later either, as it turned out), I asked what time line he was looking at.

His answer was pure McCarthy: “The long-term immediate near future.”

I dated a guy when I was 16 and he was 21 and he asked me to marry him and move to California right away because he had just gotten out of the military but didn’t like civilian life and was getting ready to rejoin.  I said “Are you crazy?” And that was the end of that.  And no, we did not sleep together so he didn’t do anything illegal.  If that even was illegal back then in the 70s.

Huh.  I just realized I got my first marriage proposal at 16. Had to wait til 28 for the next one. That one took.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: nddons on September 13, 2023, 12:06:15 PM
Ah, he's just PROPOSING an inquiry. The Bee is great at reporting real news.
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/09/12/mccarthy-stops-short-of-calling-for-vote-on-impeachment-inquiry/

Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) announced the start of an impeachment inquiry Tuesday into President Joe Biden over his family’s businesses. But he stopped short of calling for a vote to authorize the inquiry.

It may be that McCarthy lacks the votes. Regardless, unless there is a formal vote to authorize an impeachment inquiry, Republicans will soon find themselves arguing, as Democrats tried in 2019, that they do not need such a vote before they begin. Meanwhile, the Biden White House can refuse to comply with congressional subpoenas, setting up court fights and dragging out the inquiry process for years, meaning there will be no real accountability.
I support impeachment, but I understand the electoral concerns. I think Clinton’s impeachment handed him his second term, because democrats rallied around a failing presidency out of anger and spite.

Republicans don’t follow suit. We aren’t fungible, we usually don’t follow the mob, and we are more often than not independent thinkers. That’s why democrats win this impeachment game every. single. time.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Rush on September 13, 2023, 01:11:26 PM
I support impeachment, but I understand the electoral concerns. I think Clinton’s impeachment handed him his second term, because democrats rallied around a failing presidency out of anger and spite.

Republicans don’t follow suit. We aren’t fungible, we usually don’t follow the mob, and we are more often than not independent thinkers. That’s why democrats win this impeachment game every. single. time.

I kinda doubt people will rally to Biden the way they did Clinton. Biden is disliked. Clinton had charisma, and appeal, and good looks, etc.  I never saw it but they say he did.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Little Joe on September 13, 2023, 02:05:46 PM
I kinda doubt people will rally to Biden the way they did Clinton. Biden is disliked. Clinton had charisma, and appeal, and good looks, etc.  I never saw it but they say he did.
I agree with all of that, but WTF are the Dems still backing him?  Can they really not find anyone better.

On second thought, I guess "they" cannot find anyone else they can control as thoroughly.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Rush on September 13, 2023, 02:09:17 PM
I agree with all of that, but WTF are the Dems still backing him?  Can they really not find anyone better.

On second thought, I guess "they" cannot find anyone else they can control as thoroughly.

Good question. It’s a changing situation. Biden seems to be fading faster now and they’re starting to worry. Maybe the cabal is disagreeing amongst themselves who to install to replace him.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: nddons on September 13, 2023, 02:11:52 PM
I kinda doubt people will rally to Biden the way they did Clinton. Biden is disliked. Clinton had charisma, and appeal, and good looks, etc.  I never saw it but they say he did.
But democrats follow the jersey better than we do, regardless of who’s wearing it. That’s the only way Biden got elected, Kamie got VP (No Dem objection despite her getting zero percent of democrat primary votes), Fetterman got elected, etc.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Lucifer on September 13, 2023, 03:15:25 PM
But democrats follow the jersey better than we do, regardless of who’s wearing it. That’s the only way Biden got elected, Kamie got VP (No Dem objection despite her getting zero percent of democrat primary votes), Fetterman got elected, etc.

A few corrections.   Biden was not elected (81 million votes my ass), same goes for the bimbo VP. 

Fetterman got elected because the fucking feckless Republican Party wouldn’t get behind Oz.  Thanks Mitch!
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Lucifer on September 14, 2023, 05:50:05 AM
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Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Lucifer on September 14, 2023, 05:52:35 AM
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Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Number7 on September 14, 2023, 05:54:13 AM
Nothing says bullshit like a democrat attacking a republican.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Lucifer on September 14, 2023, 08:47:11 AM
Worth the listen

https://rumble.com/v3hn20e-be-a-man-bannon-calls-on-kevin-mccarthy-to-stop-posturing-and-end-the-biden.html
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: nddons on September 14, 2023, 10:28:00 AM
A few corrections.   Biden was not elected (81 million votes my ass), same goes for the bimbo VP. 

Fetterman got elected because the fucking feckless Republican Party wouldn’t get behind Oz.  Thanks Mitch!
You made my points.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Lucifer on September 17, 2023, 10:46:40 AM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/maria-bartiromo-blasts-speaker-mccarthy-after-he-says/
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Anthony on September 17, 2023, 02:27:29 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/maria-bartiromo-blasts-speaker-mccarthy-after-he-says/

I've always liked Maria Bartiromo. Great rack.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Lucifer on September 18, 2023, 05:20:40 AM
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Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 18, 2023, 06:02:10 AM
should use the three blind mice...
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Steingar on September 18, 2023, 11:44:22 AM
GOP Congresscritters holding hearings have so far come up with zip.  Funny thing is even if they do, it isn't high crimes and misdemeanors committed during office, which is what impeachment is for.  None of this will stop them of course.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 18, 2023, 11:56:54 AM
One of three blind mice ……
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Little Joe on September 18, 2023, 12:31:36 PM
GOP Congresscritters holding hearings have so far come up with zip.  Funny thing is even if they do, it isn't high crimes and misdemeanors committed during office, which is what impeachment is for.  None of this will stop them of course.
Just like it didn't stop the D's from impeaching Trump.

And just saying they haven't come up with zip doesn't make it true.  But if you say it often enough, some people will believe it.  Especially the people that want to believe it.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Lucifer on September 18, 2023, 12:39:55 PM
GOP Congresscritters holding hearings have so far come up with zip.  Funny thing is even if they do, it isn't high crimes and misdemeanors committed during office, which is what impeachment is for.  None of this will stop them of course.

  If you are saying over 150 bank reports of suspicious activity, 20 shell companies, $20+million paid through various Biden family members, video tape of Joe Biden admitting he used the threat of withholding government funds to get a prosecutor fired, removal of confidential records, several Biden business partners testimony, IRS whistleblowers testifying against the Bidens, payments made to the Bidens by Russian officials, no pay back "loans" made by the CCP officials, plus all of the substantiated emails and other data from his son's "laptop from hell" are "zip".   Seems to be a bit more than "zip".

BTW, many of the Biden Crime Family activity took place while Joe held elected office, and by law that can be used against him in impeachment hearings.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Steingar on September 18, 2023, 12:49:20 PM
  If you are saying over 150 bank reports of suspicious activity, 20 shell companies, $20+million paid through various Biden family members, video tape of Joe Biden admitting he used the threat of withholding government funds to get a prosecutor fired, removal of confidential records, several Biden business partners testimony, IRS whistleblowers testifying against the Bidens, payments made to the Bidens by Russian officials, no pay back "loans" made by the CCP officials, plus all of the substantiated emails and other data from his son's "laptop from hell" are "zip".   Seems to be a bit more than "zip".

BTW, many of the Biden Crime Family activity took place while Joe held elected office, and by law that can be used against him in impeachment hearings.

No, what I'm referring to are facts, and not dub shit reported by nameless right wing bloggers.  I saw the same tape of Joe Biden using the American power of the purse to remove from office a prosecutor known to part of the old apparatchiks and enormously corrupt.  He was carrying out the wish of his boss, the president, and did nothing at all illegal.  We are allowed to use our money to influence vents abroad, indeed we do it all the time. What you're not allowed to do when you're in public office is use the power of the purse to get foreigners to dig up dirt on your police rivals.

If any of this were real it'd have shown up in GOP-led Congressional hearings long ago.  This is the first impeachment in history to occur in the absence of any evidence of wrongdoing.  It is along the first impeachment in history to center around potential deeds that occurred years before the Presidency.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Mase on September 18, 2023, 12:55:16 PM
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 18, 2023, 01:03:09 PM
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but not their own facts

One of many things ol POS doesn't understand.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Lucifer on September 18, 2023, 01:32:20 PM
No, what I'm referring to are facts, and not dub shit reported by nameless right wing bloggers.

That's all from the Oversight committee in congress that's investigating Biden and his crime organization.   

I saw the same tape of Joe Biden using the American power of the purse to remove from office a prosecutor known to part of the old apparatchiks and enormously corrupt.

  That prosecutor was investigating Burisma, a company that hired Hunter Biden at an enormous salary, even though Hunter Biden had zero experience.   Burisma was a hotbed of corruption, and Hunter was hired to use for access to his father, who was running interference on behalf of Burisma.

  What Joe Biden did by threatening to withhold the loan guarantee was in fact illegal.

He was carrying out the wish of his boss, the president, and did nothing at all illegal.

  The law would disagree with that.  And BHO won't discuss it.

  We are allowed to use our money to influence vents abroad, indeed we do it all the time. What you're not allowed to do when you're in public office is use the power of the purse to get foreigners to dig up dirt on your police rivals.

  You need to look into the laws, which contradict what you are lamely attempting to justify.

If any of this were real it'd have shown up in GOP-led Congressional hearings long ago.

  It already has.  Your sources in the MSM choose to ignore facts.

  This is the first impeachment in history to occur in the absence of any evidence of wrongdoing.

  So what was the crime President Trump committed to be impeached over?   A phone call?

It is along the first impeachment in history to center around potential deeds that occurred years before the Presidency.

   Case law has that covered.  Biden committed crimes while he held public office as a Senator and VP.   And there is evidence after he became President of his son's business involvement which includes "The Big Guy".
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 18, 2023, 02:16:09 PM
https://empowr.us/timeline-of-hunter-biden-investigation/
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Timeline of Hunter Biden Investigation
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Number7 on September 18, 2023, 03:43:01 PM
Mikey LOVES his lies almost as much as the traitorous corrupt pedophile, joey - the big guy - Biden
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Steingar on September 19, 2023, 05:05:58 AM
As far as I've been able to tell the GOP have breathlessly dug up "whistleblowers" who've reported that nothing at all untoward happened. That Hunter Biden benefitted from being the son of a Vice-President is undoubtable.  That he was hired into a position for which he was unqualified for nepotistic reasoning is similarly undoubtable.  However, none of these things are in any way illegal, no more than tRump "hiring" his children, similarly and spectacularly unqualified, to work in his White House.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Number7 on September 19, 2023, 05:29:40 AM
miles LOVES to wrap his arms around whatever lies his communist masters order him to believe.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Anthony on September 19, 2023, 05:41:06 AM
As far as I've been able to tell the GOP have breathlessly dug up "whistleblowers" who've reported that nothing at all untoward happened. That Hunter Biden benefitted from being the son of a Vice-President is undoubtable.  That he was hired into a position for which he was unqualified for nepotistic reasoning is similarly undoubtable.  However, none of these things are in any way illegal, no more than tRump "hiring" his children, similarly and spectacularly unqualified, to work in his White House.

So, all the UNSUBSTANTIATED and now proven FALSE Russian collusion accusations for the Trump election was OK, but the now verifiable evidence Hunter colluded with his Dad with Burisma and others to make huge money and used his Dad's influence to get contracts is wrong? 

You are delusional, but we knew that.   ::)
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Number7 on September 19, 2023, 05:51:03 AM
So, all the UNSUBSTANTIATED and now proven FALSE Russian collusion accusations for the Trump election was OK, but the now verifiable evidence Hunter colluded with his Dad with Burisma and others to make huge money and used his Dad's influence to get contracts is wrong? 

You are delusional, but we knew that.   ::)

mikey is not delusional in the traditional sense of the word.

He is spectacularly brainwashed to the point that he actually believes the bullshit he is slinging.

It is an amazing thing to see a completely brainwashed useful idiot in action. The hard thing is understanding how he could be so slavishly devoted to the lies he tells, and not a bit aware of it.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Lucifer on September 19, 2023, 05:56:50 AM
As far as I've been able to tell the GOP have breathlessly dug up "whistleblowers" who've reported that nothing at all untoward happened.

Because you are getting your information from liberal controlled media, it may appear that way.   If you had actually been watching testimony, and reading what the oversight committee has been finding, it goes way deeper than whistleblowers.

BTW, notice how whistleblowers are exalted when it comes to the democrats, such as Vindman when he testified against Trump?   Even though he had zero evidence, and wasn't even present for the phone call, we were told his testimony was to be believed and he was "brave" for coming forward.

 Now we have multiple whistleblowers, with documented evidence.  Now we are being told they can't be believed, and their evidence is not really evidence.  ::)

That Hunter Biden benefitted from being the son of a Vice-President is undoubtable.  That he was hired into a position for which he was unqualified for nepotistic reasoning is similarly undoubtable.  However, none of these things are in any way illegal, no more than tRump "hiring" his children, similarly and spectacularly unqualified, to work in his White House.

  Except DJT didn't influence federal policy in order for his children to profit. 

  Bribery.   If a foreign official, let's say this official puts $3.5 million in Hunter's bank account for no reason, except the day before FJB alters a government policy that benefits that foreign official.   Because FJB's son benefited, this is bribery.   Go look it up.

 And bribery is one of three reasons the constitution gives as a reason for removing a president.

  FJB could clear all of this up tomorrow if he wanted.  The Oversight Committee has requested to see his banking records from the time he was VP until now.  FJB has refused.  If he truly has nothing to hide, why not just produce the bank records?

  Remember, FJB has spent his entire life working in government, on a government salary.  Yet he's now a multi millionaire.  He owns several mansions.  His family is also very wealthy.   Where is all that money coming from?   Why are the Russians and Chinese paying the Biden's millions through various shell companies?  What are they getting in return for all this money?
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Lucifer on September 19, 2023, 06:25:24 AM
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Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 19, 2023, 06:53:30 AM
Michael only knows that this is business as usual for most Democrats and some Republicans. It's why they run for office and stay there forever.  Can you blame him for believing nothing is wrong. Democrats revere these politicians for being able to do it and get away with it on an on-going basis. 
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 19, 2023, 08:18:12 AM
As far as I've been able to tell the ....

for once, be honest, it's as far as you are willing to admit.

Be honest.

for once

be honest
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Lucifer on September 20, 2023, 06:41:17 AM
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Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Lucifer on September 20, 2023, 06:46:56 AM
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Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Rush on September 20, 2023, 06:49:14 AM
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Leftists:  All that is okay, but question the 2020 election?  Racketeering!  Insurrection!  Treason!
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Steingar on September 22, 2023, 06:00:46 AM
If any of that were true the GOP wouldn't need to grill "whistleblowers" in their hearings.  They themselves have described their hearings as "investigative". They haven't got dick, they know it, and they're digging (which by the way is perfectly legal and they're right as elected representatives).  Who knows, maybe they'll find something?

Nepotism isn't illegal, nor is trying to do the right thing by your children.  Politicians and CEOs have access to avenues the rest of us don't, it's just part of the world. 
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Jim Logajan on September 22, 2023, 06:17:46 AM
Nepotism isn't illegal, nor is trying to do the right thing by your children.  Politicians and CEOs have access to avenues the rest of us don't, it's just part of the world.
The Federal Anti-nepotism law makes it illegal within the Federal government:
"A public official may not appoint, employ, promote, advance, or advocate for appointment, employment, promotion, or advancement, in or to a civilian position in the agency in which he is serving or over which he exercises jurisdiction or control any individual who is a relative of the public official."
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Lucifer on September 22, 2023, 06:27:16 AM
If any of that were true the GOP wouldn't need to grill "whistleblowers" in their hearings.

  It's called an "investigation". and they are uncovering "evidence".   The whistleblower testimony, along with documentation is evidence.

They themselves have described their hearings as "investigative". They haven't got dick, they know it, and they're digging (which by the way is perfectly legal and they're right as elected representatives).  Who knows, maybe they'll find something?

  So far they have witness testimony by not only whistleblowers but business partners of the Bidens.   They have over 170 bank suspicious activity reports on the Biden's shell companies.  They have emails from FJB and his son.   They have 4,000+ emails that FJB used aliases to communicate with his son and the business partners.

  They have testimony from foreign nationals that know about the bribery.  The laptop from hell also contains information.  They have the video tape of FJB himself bragging about getting the prosecutor fired.

 
Nepotism isn't illegal, nor is trying to do the right thing by your children.  Politicians and CEOs have access to avenues the rest of us don't, it's just part of the world.

   Go read about all the legal elements of bribery.    FJB fulfills those elements, and has committed Bribery, High Crimes and Misdemeanors.

  FJB has used public office to enrich himself and his family at the taxpayer expense.   Can you explain how a guy, who is considered to be one of the dumbest people ever elected to the senate, the VP and the presidency to become a multi millionaire on a government salary?    How about his crackhead son?   A total loser, drug addicted whore monger but yet he's now a multi millionaire?

  How about FJB's brother?   Another low life loser who has a history of grifting.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Number7 on September 22, 2023, 06:33:13 AM
mikey can't go and investigate the facts. That's heresy to a communist democrat academic, brainwashed to believe only what his betters tell him to believe.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Little Joe on September 22, 2023, 06:33:39 AM
The Federal Anti-nepotism law makes it illegal within the Federal government:
"A public official may not appoint, employ, promote, advance, or advocate for appointment, employment, promotion, or advancement, in or to a civilian position in the agency in which he is serving or over which he exercises jurisdiction or control any individual who is a relative of the public official."
Can anyone help me understand the legalese here?
Would any of this apply to Trump hiring/appointing his kids?  If so, I would have thought the Dems would have made a big deal over it.
Do they define "relative"?  How distant a relative excluded?  I suspect if we go back far enough, we would find that #7 is related to Steingar.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Number7 on September 22, 2023, 06:34:57 AM
Can anyone help me understand the legalese here?
Would any of this apply to Trump hiring his kids?  If so, I would have thought the Dems would have made a big deal over it.
Do they define "relative"?  How distant a relative excluded?  I suspect if we go back far enough, we would find that #7 is related to Steingar.

I think you will find that mikey is property of chairman xi, not a citizen like free people.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Jim Logajan on September 22, 2023, 07:03:12 AM
Can anyone help me understand the legalese here?
Would any of this apply to Trump hiring/appointing his kids?  If so, I would have thought the Dems would have made a big deal over it.
Do they define "relative"?  How distant a relative excluded?  I suspect if we go back far enough, we would find that #7 is related to Steingar.
"“relative” means, with respect to a public official, an individual who is related to the public official as father, mother, son, daughter, brother, sister, uncle, aunt, first cousin, nephew, niece, husband, wife, father-in-law, mother-in-law, son-in-law, daughter-in-law, brother-in-law, sister-in-law, stepfather, stepmother, stepson, stepdaughter, stepbrother, stepsister, half brother, or half sister"
Full law: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/3110 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/3110)

The law was passed several years after JFK appointed his brother Bobby Kennedy as AG.  The law came up when Hillary was appointed by her husband to a committee and also when Trump had his kids serve as advisors.  There are articles elsewhere discussing the application of the law.

Joe Biden would more appropriately be at risk due to bribery laws wherein Joe or his son gained something if Joe had acted in his official capacity in any way to secure that gain.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Little Joe on September 22, 2023, 07:35:47 AM

Joe Biden would more appropriately be at risk due to bribery laws wherein Joe or his son gained something if Joe had acted in his official capacity in any way to secure that gain.
Thanks Jim.

I think Trump would be prosecuted for buying his son dinner and putting it on his expense account before Biden would be prosecuted for taking a $5million Chinese bribe.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Username on September 22, 2023, 07:43:09 AM
Can anyone help me understand the legalese here?
Would any of this apply to Trump hiring/appointing his kids?  If so, I would have thought the Dems would have made a big deal over it.
I think that the key part of the law is "to a civilian position in the agency in which he is serving or over which he exercises jurisdiction or control'.  Trump didn't do that, and neither did FJB.  So the nepotism statute doesn't really apply.  But bribery sure does!
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Lucifer on September 22, 2023, 07:49:03 AM
The nepotism angle is a smokescreen from the regime media to deflect from FJB's bribery payoffs.

Hunter is the bagman of the Biden Crime Family.  FJB has been selling out our country for many years, and it really hasn't been a secret, just business as usual for the DC UniParty.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 22, 2023, 08:01:14 AM
President Trump would be (and has been) prosecuted for completely fictional crimes made up by people who hate all thingss Trump.

Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 22, 2023, 08:46:56 AM
The Federal Anti-nepotism law makes it illegal within the Federal government:
"A public official may not appoint, employ, promote, advance, or advocate for appointment, employment, promotion, or advancement, in or to a civilian position in the agency in which he is serving or over which he exercises jurisdiction or control any individual who is a relative of the public official."
Michael will be along soon to apologize for being wrong.   ::)
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Lucifer on September 22, 2023, 09:07:04 AM
Michael will be along soon to apologize for being wrong.   ::)

   Perfesser is a perfect example of a low information voter.    He puts little to no effort on making a fact based opinion, he relies on reading headlines of media sources that fit his narrative without even reading them. 

  I suspect his lack of reading comprehension comes into play.  Plus he's a die hard ideologue, so facts have no value to him.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 22, 2023, 10:01:42 AM
Hey Michael, why didn't this request go straight to V.P. Biden?


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Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Steingar on September 22, 2023, 12:04:42 PM
According to you all no matter what tRump does he hasn't done anything wrong, but whatever Biden does is illegal and he should be immediately impeached.  Enough is enough.  Peace out.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Lucifer on September 22, 2023, 12:07:41 PM
According to you all no matter what tRump does he hasn't done anything wrong, but whatever Biden does is illegal and he should be immediately impeached.  Enough is enough.  Peace out.

  Running away again?   Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

  In all fairness, with regards to the two Trump impeachments, what was the charges and what was the supporting evidence for each one?

  And what was the finding of each Impeachment Inquiry held before the Impeachment Vote was held?
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Number7 on September 22, 2023, 04:51:17 PM
According to you all no matter what tRump does he hasn't done anything wrong, but whatever Biden does is illegal and he should be immediately impeached.  Enough is enough.  Peace out.

mikey always outs himself when the facts fail to line up with his bullshit lies and progressive communist sound bites.

This is nothing new, or different. He is an intellectual coward.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: elwood blues on September 22, 2023, 08:01:40 PM
Steingar

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Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: nddons on September 27, 2023, 09:21:53 AM
GOP Congresscritters holding hearings have so far come up with zip.  Funny thing is even if they do, it isn't high crimes and misdemeanors committed during office, which is what impeachment is for.  None of this will stop them of course.
Impeachment is a remedy, not a punitive act, and is not limited to treason, bribery, and high crimes and misdemeanors performed only while in office.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: nddons on September 27, 2023, 09:37:25 AM
This is the first impeachment in history to occur in the absence of any evidence of wrongdoing.  It is along the first impeachment in history to center around potential deeds that occurred years before the Presidency.
Steingar, you really are full of shit and are trying to gaslight people who actually know what we are talking about.

Clinton’s impeachment stemmed from the Whitewater real estate development when he was governor of Arkansas.

It then progressed to Paula Jones civil suit that Clinton sexually harassed her in 1991.  Clinton took office in January 1993.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Number7 on September 27, 2023, 10:10:33 AM
Steingar, you really are full of shit and are trying to gaslight people who actually know what we are talking about.

Clinton’s impeachment stemmed from the Whitewater real estate development when he was governor of Arkansas.

It then progressed to Paula Jones civil suit that Clinton sexually harassed her in 1991.  Clinton took office in January 1993.

AND bill clinton perjured himself (imagine a clinton lying) in front of a sympathetic judge who still punished him to the tune of a $90,000 fine for it.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Lucifer on September 28, 2023, 08:23:28 AM
This is what the perfesser is so proud of, and can't wait to cast his vote for once again.

https://twitter.com/realstewpeters/status/1706654263068270629
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Lucifer on September 28, 2023, 11:21:48 AM
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Little Joe on September 28, 2023, 03:07:50 PM
 ;D
Damn.  It'll probably take a week to get that tune out of my head.
But then again, who cares.  It's a cool tune and better lyrics.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: bflynn on September 29, 2023, 04:39:29 AM
The basic accusations

Bribery
Obstruction
Corruption

The Democrats claim the charges are not serious enough to warrant an investigation.  That should say it all.  But just to reiterate, these charges are practically the definition of the constitutional meaning of "high crimes and misdemeanors", which was the phrase used for abuse of power by public officials.

Nobody wants Harris as president, not even Democrats.  But they can't remove her because they can't replace her.  They probably could not get a majority vote through either house, let alone both.  Remember, without a VP, there is no tie breaker vote in the Senate and therefore no majority there either.  So, now they're stuck defending indefensible charges.

Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Username on September 29, 2023, 06:10:38 AM
It looks like term limits have finally caught up with senator diane feinstein.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Lucifer on September 29, 2023, 06:50:59 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/l1k3vat.gif)
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Lucifer on October 21, 2023, 07:05:15 AM
According to you all no matter what tRump does he hasn't done anything wrong, but whatever Biden does is illegal and he should be immediately impeached.  Enough is enough.  Peace out.

  Maybe the perfesser would like to opine as to how a guy that's never had anything but a government job on a government salary can produce $2.75 million in cash to buy a beachfront home.

  Or perhaps why his brother James wrote him a check for $200,000 for a "loan repayment".
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Lucifer on October 21, 2023, 07:06:34 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12649277/Joe-Biden-paid-nearly-2-75million-CASH-Rehoboth-Beach-house-weeks-Hunter-sending-threatening-text-Chinese-business-partner-demanding-close-10million-deal.html
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 21, 2023, 07:13:48 AM
I'm having trouble understanding how receiving a check labeled "loan repayment' as a private citizen is illegal?  Is there a whole lot of information missing here? 

I think we can stipulate, one of the reasons for being a politician is to accumulate vast amounts of money that we allow them to do by voting them in again and again.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Lucifer on October 21, 2023, 07:19:19 AM
I'm having trouble understanding how receiving a check labeled "loan repayment' as a private citizen is illegal?  Is there a whole lot of information missing here? 

  Of course there is a lot more to the story, connecting the dots.

https://twitter.com/GOPoversight/status/1715435217115087020?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1715435217115087020%7Ctwgr%5E51e14be1388f4e27ff37038af889bf88b6592e80%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Frantingly.com%2F
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Number7 on October 21, 2023, 07:26:56 AM
  Maybe the perfesser would like to opine as to how a guy that's never had anything but a government job on a government salary can produce $2.75 million in cash to buy a beachfront home.

  Or perhaps why his brother James wrote him a check for $200,000 for a "loan repayment".

little mikey NEVER explains anything.

He just moves on to different lies given to him by his communist masters.
Title: Re: Impeachment Inquiry has Begun
Post by: Lucifer on October 21, 2023, 09:15:24 AM

Byron Donalds

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