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Spin Zone / Re: I Agree with Brian Urlacher: Cam Newton is a Douche
« on: February 01, 2016, 12:19:54 PM »In the NFC.In the NFL.
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Spin Zone / Re: I Agree with Brian Urlacher: Cam Newton is a Douche
« on: February 01, 2016, 11:53:54 AM »You've never played a collision sport, have you? It's fairly stupid to taunt your opponent when he can literally take you out on the next play.I didn't say it was smart. But he has survived so far.
You probably also love the guys that are down 28-3 in the 4th quarter and get a sack and do some kind of dance like they just won the game. They're all morons.Agreed. I regularly roll my eyes. But that's not the situation the Panthers find themselves in.
This is a team sport, not an individual sport. The "Look at me, look at me" crowd doesn't get that, and are usually a source of disunity in the locker room, especially when things go poorly.Looks to me like the team has the best record in football.
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Spin Zone / Re: I Agree with Brian Urlacher: Cam Newton is a Douche
« on: February 01, 2016, 07:59:10 AM »It's about class, and being like you have been there before. Not about taunting the other team, and over celebration like an idiot. I heard a local sports station saying Joe Namath did the same thing. No freaking way they are the same.
It's also not about his level of play, but he's black, so we can't comment, right? More censorship, but it's OK because the ends justify the means to you to make our society "better". Progressive, Orwellian thought again from you.
Thanks, Obama.
You can pick up your participation trophy by the ladies room.The NFL has penalties for excessive celebration, taunting, and unsportsmanlike conduct. Let the dude play, and let the rules be applied when necessary. He's young and having the time of his life. Not everyone is a regal, stuffy older man playing a gentleman's sport. Maybe his swagger comes back to bite him, maybe not. We'll see in a week!
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Spin Zone / Re: Twenty-Six states Remfuse Syrian"Refugees"
« on: January 31, 2016, 10:57:15 PM »Our governor says we will gladly receive the immigrants, AKA "refugees" after a "thorough vetting". How does one vet a refugee from a war torn country? How do we know who the hell these people really are? Hook up a lie detector machine, have them eat a pork sandwich, draw a cartoon of Mohammed, pee on the ISIS flag and their in.
Like this: https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2015/11/20/infographic-screening-process-refugee-entry-united-states
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Spin Zone / Re: I Agree with Brian Urlacher: Cam Newton is a Douche
« on: January 31, 2016, 10:49:31 PM »
It looks to me like he's a young dude having a blast playing a game he loves. And he happens to be able to back up his swagger. But I guess if we wanted to, we could tell him to shut up and hand everyone a participation trophy so they don't get their feelers hurt. 
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Spin Zone / Re: We need more Libs here
« on: January 25, 2016, 10:07:32 PM »I suppose "liberalism" is defined differently depending on viewpoint. That's part of its problem.This doesn't seem to follow with your earlier supposition that liberalism is indefensible. If we can't come to a common definition, why do you suppose the political persuasion has no defense? This is not to say that deciding on a definition is easy, but settling on a description that fits the hyperbole of the pejorative use of the term doesn't seem like a great start to the discussion. I, too, might consider the conservative position to be indefensible if I really believed they were all right-wing anarchist redneck uncharitable evangelical gun nuts.
Liberal: Liberalism is compassionate, promotes equality, helps the poor, spreads resources where they are most needed.
Conservative: Liberalism ignores human nature, promotes control by elites in government, creates more poor, and dumps resources into programs that bloat and create more dependency.
There has been plenty of high-profile defense of liberalism and liberal policy. You need look no further than the position of commander in chief, from Theodore Roosevelt and up through the present.
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Spin Zone / Re: Not Trump
« on: January 22, 2016, 09:38:14 PM »Jeb!I'll die if it's Trump v. Hillary.
What charity should we donate to in lieu of flowers?
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Spin Zone / Re: We need more Libs here
« on: January 22, 2016, 08:21:29 PM »
Don't choose the dumb ones as friends.
Thats one way to narrow the field down to a very small number of potential liberal friends....
Touché. You pluck the smart liberals from across your aisle, and I will pluck the literate conservatives from across mine. Then we'll make reservations for four and talk politics over dinner and beer.
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Spin Zone / Re: We need more Libs here
« on: January 22, 2016, 06:21:18 PM »A far-lefter who fears nothing! I salute you, and appreciate your presence here, even when we disagree. Perhaps especially when we disagree. EVERY SINGLE ONE of my far-left friends refuses to engage in a thoughtful discussion. Your willingness to do so is enormously refreshing and valuable.
Don't choose the dumb ones as friends.
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Spin Zone / Re: Not Trump
« on: January 22, 2016, 04:35:27 PM »
I'll die if it's Trump v. Hillary.
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Spin Zone / Re: I beat my wife - thanks, Obama
« on: January 22, 2016, 11:08:04 AM »I don't think it's the case that Obama has done nothing of substance re: the VA. Though we obviously have a long way to go.
I do admit to being anti-Palin, though.
Giving credit to Obama regarding VA issues is truly ridiculous and shameless partisanship. Finding a couple of very small victories in the face of the absolute disgraceful way his administration has treated, and continues to treat veterans is beyond the pale. Why do you believe his lies and obfuscations?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/21/obama-touts-progress-va-admits-still-not-satisfied/?page=all
It's not true that he's done nothing of substance, and we have a long way to go. That was my statement, and it is truthful.
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Spin Zone / Re: I beat my wife - thanks, Obama
« on: January 22, 2016, 10:43:02 AM »
I don't think it's the case that Obama has done nothing of substance re: the VA. Though we obviously have a long way to go.
I do admit to being anti-Palin, though.
I do admit to being anti-Palin, though.
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Spin Zone / Re: I beat my wife - thanks, Obama
« on: January 22, 2016, 09:25:21 AM »You can blame anyone for anything, but that neither makes it legitimate nor ok, whether it's Bush or Obama in office.I hope you weren't expecting an argument about this.QuoteSarah Palin is taking heat from veterans for seeming to point the finger at President Obama over mental issues her son may be dealing with following his Iraq war service.Story here.
Her son Track was arrested earlier this week on domestic violence charges, and Palin publicly addressed the case Wednesday during a post-endorsement appearance on the campaign trail for Donald Trump. She appeared to link his alleged behavior to post-traumatic stress disorder – and used it to criticize Obama’s veteran policies.
ODS alive and well!
But just in case you were, here is one counter point to your premise: ANY thing is a legitimate reason to blame or criticize Obama. Just picture it this way: Suppose the President was Bush instead of Obama. Then would it be ok for liberals to blame him for everything? (Hint: yes, it was).
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Spin Zone / Re: I beat my wife - thanks, Obama
« on: January 22, 2016, 09:23:05 AM »That's the kind of endorsement that Trump gets.It's a good fit. They are both purveyors of fine word salad.