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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: gerhardt on June 22, 2017, 08:37:50 AM

Title: Chief Thief
Post by: gerhardt on June 22, 2017, 08:37:50 AM
I read the other day where Trump is seeking to cut billions in housing welfare.  Except for the type that paid him $5M last year (direct payment to landlords).

And now he's requested a tax break on one of his golf courses.  I'd imagine the guy who wants to decline that request would be out of work by the end of the day. 

What a fucking thief.  And moron.
Title: Re: Chief Thief
Post by: Lucifer on June 22, 2017, 08:49:09 AM
Another drive by?
Title: Re: Chief Thief
Post by: Lucifer on June 22, 2017, 08:49:37 AM
I read the other day where Trump is seeking to cut billions in housing welfare.  Except for the type that paid him $5M last year (direct payment to landlords).

And now he's requested a tax break on one of his golf courses.  I'd imagine the guy who wants to decline that request would be out of work by the end of the day. 

What a fucking thief.  And moron.

 Link please?
Title: Re: Chief Thief
Post by: Anthony on June 22, 2017, 09:32:57 AM
What a fucking thief.  And moron.

Why the emotional, and bitter stance against the current President?  I despised Obama's politics, and policies, but never slandered him.  I thought he was the absolute worst, most divisive U.S. President in my lifetime.  Trump has a lot of flaws, but I doubt he needs the money to actually be a "thief". 
Title: Re: Chief Thief
Post by: Lucifer on June 22, 2017, 09:40:21 AM
Ah, more lashing out.   They can't win elections anymore, their MSM is being ignored for the lying pricks they are, their party is crumbling in front of them.

 Even their "Resist" movement is flailing.   


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Title: Re: Chief Thief
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on June 22, 2017, 09:46:03 AM
It strikes me that if you're going to go all out public, frothing at the mouth, obscenity-spewing and charge-levelling to resist something, you'd better be sure there's something really there to resist.  Otherwise you will look very foolish when the curtain is pulled aside at last, and reveals ... nothing.
Title: Re: Chief Thief
Post by: lowtimer on June 22, 2017, 09:52:50 AM
Trump would be slammed either way on this. Cancel the program and it's "Trump putting poor people out of their homes". Keep the program and it's "Trump lining his pockets at the expense of the poor" or "chief thief".
Title: Re: Chief Thief
Post by: invflatspin on June 22, 2017, 09:59:58 AM
I'd like to break the OPs rant down and deal with the several parts.

Cut welfare: Absolutely true. Comes in several flavors. 1. Eliminate the new immigrants from getting any fed/state subsidies for five years after they arrive(I think it should be 20 years, but hey - 5 is a good start). 2. Put a lifetime cap on direct welfare payments of 18 years(funny, that's the amount of time from birth to adulthood for a welfare queen), and some other caps for other programs, but all would have a lifetime cap for direct welfare payments. 3. Cut back welfare where the recipient has hidden assets from the feds(bad problem).

Trump's direct payments to landlords: Partly true, mostly false. This is called the Section 8 housing assistance program. Trump does not own any real estate that is directly tied to any Section 8 housing payments. He is a partner in a large real estate trust that owns some redevelopment property that accepts Section 8 payments. I don't know what his stake in it is exactly, but he(and I) are all minority ownership interest. Why does the trust own RE which would be covered by Section 8 payments? Because, the govt tells us that as part of any RE trust where the assets exceed about 5 mil, a certain percent of the holdings MUST be in low-income, or structured relief payment housing - i.e. must accept Section 8. It - is - the - law.

Tax break for one of his golf courses: True. One more more of his courses was converted from a kind of fescue which is high water use to a kind of grass that uses far less water to stay green. The congress(in their infinite wisdom) back in 2009(who was prez?) offered tax rebates for courses which changed grass type. The law is on the books, the golf course qualifies, and Trump is taking LEGAL advantage of the tax break, or dodge, or loophole. BTW, the golf course is part of a collection of assets that is once again publicly owned, and so for the administrators(it is NOT Trump, he's turned all that over to others to manage) to not take advantage of reducing tax liability would be a case of failure to properly reduce taxes and fees, and maximize profits for their shareholders.

Thief and moron. A 'thief' by definition is someone who takes from someone else, or a group of people by force. So - that one's a lie. The moron comment is not worth responding to. Meh - whatev.
Title: Re: Chief Thief
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on June 22, 2017, 01:26:20 PM
I read the other day where Trump is seeking to cut billions in housing welfare.  Except for the type that paid him $5M last year (direct payment to landlords).

And now he's requested a tax break on one of his golf courses.  I'd imagine the guy who wants to decline that request would be out of work by the end of the day. 

What a fucking thief.  And moron.

I'm starting to think you are a sock of steingar.
Title: Re: Chief Thief
Post by: bflynn on June 22, 2017, 04:07:24 PM
What a fucking thief.  And moron.

More of your high quality discussions.
Title: Re: Chief Thief
Post by: Number7 on June 22, 2017, 07:24:51 PM
Bullshit walks...
Title: Re: Chief Thief
Post by: Gary on June 24, 2017, 02:36:10 PM

What a fucking thief.  And moron.

The President is vain, vindictive, thin-skinned, has difficulty with facts and has an uncanny ability to make enemies... but a thief, no, think not.

A moron?  Again, think not.  He has been quite successful at fattening the profits of his family business through his position, but that is not exactly illegal, unethical perhaps.  I always smile when I hear the the phrase the President is going to "drain the swamp".  It's pretty clear he doesn't want to drain the swamp as much as install his own swamp creatures and "own the swamp".  Classic Donald from the old days.
Title: Re: Chief Thief
Post by: Number7 on June 24, 2017, 07:53:16 PM
Gerhardt is channeling his inner aunt Peggy