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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: bflynn on August 10, 2016, 05:46:02 AM

Title: Hillary's health
Post by: bflynn on August 10, 2016, 05:46:02 AM
There have been questions raised recently about Hillary's health.  There's something going on.

She stumbled and had to be caught. We know another time she was not caught and fell and hit her head causing vision problems. In stressful situations, she freezes and zones out. Now she reportedly has a neurological doctor following her around.

Does Hillary have multiple sclerosis?  Would she tell us if she did?  Serious questions...
Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: Lucifer on August 10, 2016, 05:49:05 AM
There have been questions raised recently about Hillary's health.  There's something going on.

She stumbled and had to be caught. We know another time she was not caught and fell and hit her head causing vision problems. In stressful situations, she freezes and zones out. Now she reportedly has a neurological doctor following her around.

Does Hillary have multiple sclerosis?  Would she tell us if she did?  Serious questions...

They will keep her closely guarded and controlled.

However if her opponent was to get a hang nail CNN, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, etc would be running 24/7 coverage and declaring he is "unfit" to serve as President.
Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on August 10, 2016, 06:11:11 AM
They will keep her closely guarded and controlled.

However if her opponent was to get a hang nail CNN, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, etc would be running 24/7 coverage and declaring he is "unfit" to serve as President.

But she's "fit" to be president.
Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: Lucifer on August 10, 2016, 06:16:06 AM
But she's "fit" to be president.

But of course!  Oh never mind the "pay for play" selling influence for the state department, Benghazi, email scandals, The Clinton Criminal Foundation, the health issues, etc, etc, etc.......
Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: bflynn on August 10, 2016, 06:45:03 AM
A more relevant question - if Hillary has MS, can she be president? 

The exact issue was explored on the TV series West Wing some years ago.  My inclination is No, then and now. There are situations, stressful situations, where only the president can give orders.  A MS attack in the middle of one of those situations could be disasterous for the country and for Americans in danger.

Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: Lucifer on August 10, 2016, 07:13:14 AM
A more relevant question - if Hillary has MS, can she be president? 

The exact issue was explored on the TV series West Wing some years ago.  My inclination is No, then and now. There are situations, stressful situations, where only the president can give orders.  A MS attack in the middle of one of those situations could be disasterous for the country and for Americans in danger.

Whatever she has it will be kept top secret and the media will make sure to divert all attention away from it.

 Now if Trump gets the sniffles.............
Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 10, 2016, 09:53:17 AM
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-seizure-video/

Snopes won't call it false, but calls it Unproven.
Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 10, 2016, 09:57:14 AM


This is interesting
Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: nddons on August 10, 2016, 12:34:38 PM
A more relevant question - if Hillary has MS, can she be president? 

The exact issue was explored on the TV series West Wing some years ago.  My inclination is No, then and now. There are situations, stressful situations, where only the president can give orders.  A MS attack in the middle of one of those situations could be disasterous for the country and for Americans in danger.
No worries. Bill will be in the next room banging the underage help, so he can jump in if necessary.
Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: Gary on August 10, 2016, 04:10:38 PM
There have been questions raised recently about Hillary's health.  There's something going on.

There sure is!!   Also heard a rumor that Hillary is a carrier for the Zinka virus, that Ebola was a product of research funded by the Clinton Foundation and she has a controlling intrest in most major health insurance companies.  Haven't heard a peep from the mainstream media on any of this.  ;)
Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on August 10, 2016, 05:05:54 PM
  Haven't heard a peep from the mainstream media on any of this.  ;)

Color me not surprised. MSM totally in tank for any D regardless of how repulsive.
Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: JeffDG on August 11, 2016, 04:35:32 AM
Color me not surprised. MSM totally in tank for any D regardless of how repulsive.
But, I was told during the primaries that Trump knew how to manage the media, and that's why he was the only one who could defeat Hillary.


I mean, I'm totally shocked that the media pushed forward the weakest possible opponent for Hillary then cut the legs out from under him.


Thanks, Trumpklins for buying his load of BS during the primaries.  It's you who are responsible for Pres Hillary.
Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 11, 2016, 04:41:26 AM
But, I was told during the primaries that Trump knew how to manage the media, and that's why he was the only one who could defeat Hillary.


I mean, I'm totally shocked that the media pushed forward the weakest possible opponent for Hillary then cut the legs out from under him.


Thanks, Trumpklins for buying his load of BS during the primaries.  It's you who are responsible for Pres Hillary.

No.  The responsibility for the election of the corrupt CAB doormat lives primarily (no pun) on the mindless morons that vote for her.

Voting for a republican candidate that can't beat the worst POS the DNC offered is a contributory factor, but the ultimate responsibility lies with the fools voting for the corrupt CAB doormat.

Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on August 11, 2016, 05:52:58 AM
No.  The responsibility for the election of the corrupt CAB doormat lives primarily (no pun) on the mindless morons that vote for her.

Voting for a republican candidate that can't beat the worst POS the DNC offered is a contributory factor, but the ultimate responsibility lies with the fools voting for the corrupt CAB doormat.

Obamacare's full impact will hit post-election.

Do you think that is an accident?
Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: Lucifer on August 11, 2016, 05:55:55 AM
Obamacare's full impact will hit post-election.

Do you think that is an accident?

 Yep, it was meticulously scheduled so that the biggest impacts would happen after elections.

And Hillary says she wants to carry on the legacy of BHO.
Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: bflynn on August 11, 2016, 06:36:18 AM
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-seizure-video/

Snopes won't call it false, but calls it Unproven.

That's normal.  Snopes won't agree that Target's revenue fall in April-May was actually related to the ~1.4 million people pledging not to spend money at Target. 

The analyst weren't fooled and promptly lowered EPS estimates for the stock.  TGT stock is still $20 below where it should be.  The CEO should be lynched for letting it happen.  He cost his shareholders more than 2.25 billion in lost value because he wanted to chime in.

And the more I read, the more I think Hillary might actually have MS. 

What do we know about her VP?
Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: asechrest on August 11, 2016, 06:39:53 AM
I dislike Hillary.

But I can't find any reputable source with information that would lead me to believe she has MS. And the so-called seizure video just looks like her being an idiot.
Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: Little Joe on August 11, 2016, 07:01:29 AM
I dislike Hillary.

But I can't find any reputable source with information that would lead me to believe she has MS. And the so-called seizure video just looks like her being an idiot.
Don't you read the magazine headlines while standing in line at the registers in the grocery store to check out?
Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: nddons on August 11, 2016, 07:11:24 AM
No.  The responsibility for the election of the corrupt CAB doormat lives primarily (no pun) on the mindless morons that vote for her.

Voting for a republican candidate that can't beat the worst POS the DNC offered is a contributory factor, but the ultimate responsibility lies with the fools voting for the corrupt CAB doormat.
When primary voters, angered by the "establishment", chose a liberal, insincere, thin-skinned, loud-mouthed, undisciplined celebrity instead of a strong conservative who can counterweight the establishment, they should bear the full responsibility for nominating someone who simply cannot win, doesn't appear that he wants to win, and who seems to be sabotaging his own campaign on a daily basis. 
Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: Lucifer on August 11, 2016, 07:17:30 AM
When primary voters, angered by the "establishment", chose a liberal, insincere, thin-skinned, loud-mouthed, undisciplined celebrity instead of a strong conservative who can counterweight the establishment, they should bear the full responsibility for nominating someone who simply cannot win, doesn't appear that he wants to win, and who seems to be sabotaging his own campaign on a daily basis.

So why didn't the establishment GOP put forth an effort in the past 12 years to put in a candidate that could actually win an election?

 You want to blame the voters for your continued butt hurt, but the reality is the GOP has failed miserably. 

Keep making excuses for them and blame everyone else rather than finding a solution.
Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 11, 2016, 07:45:20 AM
When primary voters, angered by the "establishment", chose a liberal, insincere, thin-skinned, loud-mouthed, undisciplined celebrity instead of a strong conservative who can counterweight the establishment, they should bear the full responsibility for nominating someone who simply cannot win, doesn't appear that he wants to win, and who seems to be sabotaging his own campaign on a daily basis.

They have responsibility for that.

But the morons who vote for the corrupt CAB doormat are the ones that bear primary responsibility.

Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: nddons on August 11, 2016, 07:53:40 AM
So why didn't the establishment GOP put forth an effort in the past 12 years to put in a candidate that could actually win an election?

 You want to blame the voters for your continued butt hurt, but the reality is the GOP has failed miserably. 

Keep making excuses for them and blame everyone else rather than finding a solution.
I'm starting to believe that you and your ilk have been RINOs from the very beginning, with faux anger towards the "establishment GOP" so that you can nominate a candidate who will do what you liberals have been unable to do - beat back every conservative movement possible, and advance a progressive agenda within the Republican Party.

Well played. But your over-the-top hatred of Ryan belies your love for a candidate who's conservative bonafides could fit in Paul Ryan's back pocket, they are so small.

I'll bet you disqualified Romney for not being "conservative enough" too, right? 
Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: bflynn on August 11, 2016, 01:52:24 PM
I'm starting to believe that you and your ilk have been RINOs from the very beginning, with faux anger towards the "establishment GOP" so that you can nominate a candidate who will do what you liberals have been unable to do - beat back every conservative movement possible, and advance a progressive agenda within the Republican Party.

Well played. But your over-the-top hatred of Ryan belies your love for a candidate who's conservative bonafides could fit in Paul Ryan's back pocket, they are so small.

I'll bet you disqualified Romney for not being "conservative enough" too, right?

You know I think what you need to do is wrench the Republican party further to the right.  Then it will cease to exist because nobody will want anything to do with them.

Hopefully you wouldn't call me a RINO.
Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: JeffDG on August 11, 2016, 02:49:59 PM
You know I think what you need to do is wrench the Republican party further to the right.  Then it will cease to exist because nobody will want anything to do with them.

Hopefully you wouldn't call me a RINO.
Move the Republican Party to the right, at least the Presidential campaign, and it'll run smack into Hillary.  Trump's more liberal than she is.
Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: Little Joe on August 11, 2016, 03:04:23 PM
Move the Republican Party to the right, at least the Presidential campaign, and it'll run smack into Hillary.  Trump's more liberal than she is.
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Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: Lucifer on August 11, 2016, 04:03:40 PM
I'm starting to believe that you and your ilk have been RINOs from the very beginning, with faux anger towards the "establishment GOP" so that you can nominate a candidate who will do what you liberals have been unable to do - beat back every conservative movement possible, and advance a progressive agenda within the Republican Party.

Well played. But your over-the-top hatred of Ryan belies your love for a candidate who's conservative bonafides could fit in Paul Ryan's back pocket, they are so small.

I'll bet you disqualified Romney for not being "conservative enough" too, right?

Believe what you want, but you "ilk" has what has resulted in this years election.  Too bad you are so blinded by your ideology that you can't see your chosen "conservative" candidates can't even come up with a message to excite or even a consensus among their own party.

 Had the republicans actual acted on their promises in the past 12 years today would have been different.

 Trying to blame voters just shows, again, how out of touch you and others are.
Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on August 11, 2016, 08:26:09 PM
Move the Republican Party to the right, at least the Presidential campaign, and it'll run smack into Hillary.  Trump's more liberal than she is.

Fucking ridiculous.
Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: nddons on August 11, 2016, 08:51:57 PM
Believe what you want, but you "ilk" has what has resulted in this years election.  Too bad you are so blinded by your ideology that you can't see your chosen "conservative" candidates can't even come up with a message to excite or even a consensus among their own party.

 Had the republicans actual acted on their promises in the past 12 years today would have been different.

 Trying to blame voters just shows, again, how out of touch you and others are.

You can't even see what you have wrought, can you?  Pathetic lack of vision.   
Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: Lucifer on August 12, 2016, 05:50:44 AM
You can't even see what you have wrought, can you?  Pathetic lack of vision.   

You're pathetic Stan.  When you were growing up every time you got a bad grade or lost at a baseball game I bet your standard response was "it's somebody else's fault!"

As for lack of vision, God talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

 Your beloved RNC couldn't produce a message, couldn't produce any unity much less a candidate people could get behind and endorse. 12 plus years of acting like a bunch of lying bumbling idiots pitching the same old tired mantra.

 Are you soooooo ignorant you can't see why people decided to bring in an outsider?  Lies Stan, lies!  People are sick and tired of career politicians making promises to get elected only to sit back on their asses and let the donors call the shots and let the executive branch run wild.

 Regardless of what you think of Trump, it's your "ilk" that produced this situation.  Stupidly trying to blame the voters is childish at best. And the Republicans working to sabotage the election are only driving more people away from the RNC. With these shenanigans going on what will the next election cycle look like for the Republicans?  The RNC is starting to resemble a third party (which may not be a bad thing). Get over your butt hurt.

 Like the famous movie line "Get busy living, or get busy dying".

 
Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: Mr Pou on August 12, 2016, 08:47:59 AM
Your beloved RNC couldn't produce a message, couldn't produce any unity much less a candidate people could get behind and endorse.

 And the Republicans working to sabotage the election are only driving more people away from the RNC. With these shenanigans going on what will the next election cycle look like for the Republicans?  The RNC is starting to resemble a third party

Out of ~320B people in this country, the GOP couldn't come up with someone more appealing that Trump? Seriously? And now they're kicking Donald to the curb, which basically amounts to broadcasting "Vote for Hillary" from every mountain top. The GOP is now dead to me.

 Done. Toast. Stick a fork in it. Dead.

I don't know who or what is going to stem the tide[1] at this point, welcome to the Socialist States of America.

[1] Short of revolution 2.0
Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: Dav8or on August 12, 2016, 11:32:34 AM
This makes our choice easy. Which do you want for president, a person with MS, or a person with Tourette's? Maybe instead of their tax returns, we should have full disclosure of their medical files!  ;D
Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 12, 2016, 12:52:11 PM
This makes our choice easy. Which do you want for president, a person corrupt CAB doormat with a MS, or a person with Tourette's? Maybe instead of their tax returns, we should have full disclosure of their medical files!  ;D

FTFY
Title: Re: Hillary's health
Post by: LevelWing on August 13, 2016, 02:35:54 PM
You're pathetic Stan.  When you were growing up every time you got a bad grade or lost at a baseball game I bet your standard response was "it's somebody else's fault!"

As for lack of vision, God talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

 Your beloved RNC couldn't produce a message, couldn't produce any unity much less a candidate people could get behind and endorse. 12 plus years of acting like a bunch of lying bumbling idiots pitching the same old tired mantra.

 Are you soooooo ignorant you can't see why people decided to bring in an outsider?  Lies Stan, lies!  People are sick and tired of career politicians making promises to get elected only to sit back on their asses and let the donors call the shots and let the executive branch run wild.

 Regardless of what you think of Trump, it's your "ilk" that produced this situation.  Stupidly trying to blame the voters is childish at best. And the Republicans working to sabotage the election are only driving more people away from the RNC. With these shenanigans going on what will the next election cycle look like for the Republicans?  The RNC is starting to resemble a third party (which may not be a bad thing). Get over your butt hurt.

 Like the famous movie line "Get busy living, or get busy dying".
As I've explained before, the problem is far more complex than simply "the voters" or "the RNC". There's cause and effect here and it has become a vicious cycle. The RNC has done no favors for themselves and they haven't done what they've said they were going to do. In large part, they are responsible for the rise of Donald Trump. The voters aren't blameless in this either, however. They've continued to vote for these politicians which has allowed the to continue down the wrong roads. Bad behavior was rewarded by re-electing them. Sure, we've had some people get tossed out (Eric Cantor, for example) but it hasn't been wide spread. We had a little bit of movement with the Tea Party, but again, it hasn't been wide spread.

As I've also said before, Donald Trump was the angry vote but he wasn't necessarily the right vote. I fully understand the desire to bring in an outsider, someone who was saying what the people wanted to hear and tapping into that anger. Donald Trump has certainly done that. However, the angry vote can only go so far. Trump has a lot of issues that don't fit in with conservative platforms (or even Republican platforms) such as the First, Second and Fifth Amendments but he's essentially given a pass because he's saying the things the voters like to hear. The Republicans were given a gift with Hillary Clinton and they chose the one person who could actually lose to her.

If you've voted for a Republican in the last 12 years, then you're part of the "ilk" you're trying to separate yourself from.