PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: nddons on December 24, 2015, 07:51:43 AM
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The Religion of Peace once again demonstrates peace and tolerance.
"MOGADISHU (Reuters) - The government of Somalia has issued a ban on Christmas and New Year's celebrations in the Muslim country, saying the festivities "have nothing to do with Islam."
"We warn against celebration of Christmas, which is only for Christians," Sheikh Mohamed Kheyrow, director of Somalia’s ministry of religion, said on state radio. "This is a matter of faith. The Christmas holiday and its drum beatings have nothing to with Islam."
"He said the ministry has sent letters to the police, national security intelligence and officials in the capital Mogadishu instructing them to "prevent Christmas celebrations."
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0U61NT20151223
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Brunei Too (https://ca.news.yahoo.com/bruneis-sultan-bans-christmas-in-hardline-shift-070933254.html)
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Yeah, really points up religious intolerance. That said, in Somalia they do have an active Islamist insurgency, so they could just be trying not to give them any easy targets.
Still a crying shame no matter how you look at it.
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Send the Rangers and D Boys back in!
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Send the Rangers and D Boys back in!
Why??! ???
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I am sure that pleases the lunatic progressives in the USA.
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Send the Rangers and D Boys back in!
Why??! ???
I agree.
Instead, I'd rather see us retaliate by requiring everyone to say "Merry Christmas" on all correspondence after Thanksgiving and requiring that every household have a Christmas Tree, fully adorned with an angel on top.
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Somalia is a hotbed for Islamic radicalism (al-Shabaab and ISIS are the big ones) and doesn't exactly have a strong government capable of dealing with it. That's something we can help with. However, if Somalia wants to ban Christmas, let them. It's their country. Freedom of religion may be a natural right, but the people have to fight for it. Besides, Somalia isn't exactly on most people's top vacation spots.
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Somalia is a hotbed for Islamic radicalism (al-Shabaab and ISIS are the big ones) and doesn't exactly have a strong government capable of dealing with it. That's something we can help with. However, if Somalia wants to ban Christmas, let them. It's their country. Freedom of religion may be a natural right, but the people have to fight for it. Besides, Somalia isn't exactly on most people's top vacation spots.
Exactly! It is not our country's job to defend the right to Christmas everywhere on the globe. If you are a Cristian in Somalia, get out and make your way to Europe. There they will give you money and set you up. They will even let you celebrate Christmas... for now any how.
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Somalia is a hotbed for Islamic radicalism (al-Shabaab and ISIS are the big ones) and doesn't exactly have a strong government capable of dealing with it. That's something we can help with. However, if Somalia wants to ban Christmas, let them. It's their country. Freedom of religion may be a natural right, but the people have to fight for it. Besides, Somalia isn't exactly on most people's top vacation spots.
Exactly! It is not our country's job to defend the right to Christmas everywhere on the globe. If you are a Cristian in Somalia, get out and make your way to Europe. There they will give you money and set you up. They will even let you celebrate Christmas... for now any how.
Did anyone say that? The point was to demonstrate the utter intolerance to human rights by the Religion of Peace.
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Did anyone say that? The point was to demonstrate the utter intolerance to human rights by the Religion of Peace.
Yeah, somebody suggested we "Send the Rangers and D Boys back in!" Anyhow, your "religion of peace" bit is hyperbole. There are dozens, in fact the majority of Muslim governed countries where Christmas is freely celebrated. You picked one of the most fucked up places on the planet where daily life is horrid an oppressive all the time and said "See! The religion of peace strikes again!" There appears to be more than one way to practice Muslim beliefs and so in my view it is ridiculous to condemn all Muslims.
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Anyhow, your "religion of peace" bit is hyperbole. There are dozens, in fact the majority of Muslim governed countries where Christmas is freely celebrated. You picked one of the most fucked up places on the planet where daily life is horrid an oppressive all the time and said "See! The religion of peace strikes again!" There appears to be more than one way to practice Muslim beliefs and so in my view it is ridiculous to condemn all Muslims.
Let's do a little word substitution shall we?
Anyhow, your mass shootings bit is hyperbole. There are millions, in fact the vast majority of guns where nobody is shot. You picked one of the most fucked up events on the planet where crazy people did something evil and said "See! The guns strike again!" There appears to be more than one way to practice gun ownership and so in my view it is ridiculous to condemn all guns.
And that's why I've started calling for "common sense" regulations on "assault style" religions.
The percentage of Muslims who kill people is orders of magnitude greater than the percentage of gun owners who do so, so if tragic events justify to regulation of the latter, then it most certainly justifies regulation of the former, much more deadly, threat.
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Let's do a little word substitution shall we?
Anyhow, your mass shootings bit is hyperbole. There are millions, in fact the vast majority of guns where nobody is shot. You picked one of the most fucked up events on the planet where crazy people did something evil and said "See! The guns strike again!" There appears to be more than one way to practice gun ownership and so in my view it is ridiculous to condemn all guns.
And that's why I've started calling for "common sense" regulations on "assault style" religions.
The percentage of Muslims who kill people is orders of magnitude greater than the percentage of gun owners who do so, so if tragic events justify to regulation of the latter, then it most certainly justifies regulation of the former, much more deadly, threat.
And what would these "common sense" regulations on "assault style religious" look like? Spell it out. What should we do about the evil practitioners of Islam here in this country?
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I think you are missing the point.
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Yeah, somebody suggested we "Send the Rangers and D Boys back in!"
I was being facetious when I said that. We don't need be anywhere near there.
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And what would these "common sense" regulations on "assault style religious" look like? Spell it out. What should we do about the evil practitioners of Islam here in this country?
That's rather Islamophobic of you. I said nothing about Islam being evil. Please explain why you think that.
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I hope the CIA (after that treasonous bastard Obama is gone) go back to helping various Islamic factions kill each other, again.
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I hope the CIA (after that treasonous bastard Obama is gone) go back to helping various Islamic factions kill each other, again.
When did they ever do that? You mean when Iraq decided to go to war with Iran? Boy that sure worked out well for us in the end. ::) Why can't we just stop meddling in other's affairs?
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When did they ever do that? You mean when Iraq decided to go to war with Iran? Boy that sure worked out well for us in the end. ::) Why can't we just stop meddling in other's affairs?
You need to look further into the past...
All of human history did not occur within your adult life.
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You need to look further into the past...
All of human history did not occur within your adult life.
Another liberal trait.
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Another liberal trait.
Same with the MMGW crowd.
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Same with the MMGW crowd.
It's cold today. Man's fault!!!
;D
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Same with the MMGW crowd.
It's cold today. Man's fault!!!
;D
We talk about BDS and ODS - Bush Derangement Syndrome and Obama Derangement Syndrome - and see them as disorders.
MMGW was just introduced into a thread on Somalia banning Christmas. Which provoked a snarky comment also unrelated to the thread topic.
MMGW was also recently inserted into a thread titled: "I beat my wife - thanks Obama!" which also had zero to do with the topic.
Is something similar going on here? Do we need another acronym to describe this particular fixation/obsession? I think we do.
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We talk about BDS and ODS - Bush Derangement Syndrome and Obama Derangement Syndrome - and see them as disorders.
MMGW was just introduced into a thread on Somalia banning Christmas.
MMGW was also recently inserted into a thread titled: "I beat my wife - thanks Obama!" which also had zero to do with the topic.
Is something similar going on here? Do we need another acronym to describe this particular fixation/obsession? I think we do.
ok, but ridiculing the MMGW crowd doesn't necessarily qualify as a derangement syndrom.
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Repeatedly pointing out the farcical claims of the mmgw crowd with regards to everyday life is not a form of derangement. It is reasonable and prudent, no matter what the farcical mmgw crowd claims.
This will become like the progressive behavior whenever someone makes a statement (humerus, or not) about o-blow-me and his make believe birth certificate(s). This is nothing but progressives trying to make the topic off limits, like properly comparing progressives to nazis.
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(humerus, or not)
Is that your funny bone?
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We talk about BDS and ODS - Bush Derangement Syndrome and Obama Derangement Syndrome - and see them as disorders.
MMGW was just introduced into a thread on Somalia banning Christmas. Which provoked a snarky comment also unrelated to the thread topic.
MMGW was also recently inserted into a thread titled: "I beat my wife - thanks Obama!" which also had zero to do with the topic.
Is something similar going on here? Do we need another acronym to describe this particular fixation/obsession? I think we do.
The common thread is Just Believing something small about a large and complex subject that obviously requires more research and thought. I predict that MMGW will become an internet idiom reflecting that, much like "Godwin" reflects a more sinister underpinning that we'd really prefer to ignore. Derangement syndromes abound on the left and the right.
One thing that should never be settled is science pertaining to a massive, squirrelly subject like climate science. Measurement is a key issue; look at the POA post about "Weather Measurement Concern."
Watts Up With That is the best climate site out there, I think. An interesting conversation in the comments on this post:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/01/23/saturday-silliness-wind-turbine-photo-of-the-year/ (http://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/01/23/saturday-silliness-wind-turbine-photo-of-the-year/)
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We talk about BDS and ODS - Bush Derangement Syndrome and Obama Derangement Syndrome - and see them as disorders.
MMGW was just introduced into a thread on Somalia banning Christmas. Which provoked a snarky comment also unrelated to the thread topic.
MMGW was also recently inserted into a thread titled: "I beat my wife - thanks Obama!" which also had zero to do with the topic.
Is something similar going on here? Do we need another acronym to describe this particular fixation/obsession? I think we do.
MMGW comes up because it is the poster child for liberal/progressive belief and the over reach of big government. It's the heart of the beast, so to speak.
As Arnold said in "Predator". "It bleeds, we can kill it".
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You need to look further into the past...
All of human history did not occur within your adult life.
OK Mr. Long View, let's turn the clock way back to 1900 and 47 when the CIA was founded and you tell me all good works they have done in the Middle East and how any of that really has benefited the USA in the along run. How the hell do you think we got into the mess we are into today in the Middle East? Why is it that the US government is hated nearly everywhere in that region of the world?
The plots, plans, gerrymandering and manipulations of organizations like the CIA is exactly why we have Jihadis running all over the globe trying to blow things up.
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Another liberal trait.
Typical right wing habit. ::)
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MMGW comes up because it is the poster child for liberal/progressive belief and the over reach of big government. It's the heart of the beast, so to speak.
As Arnold said in "Predator". "It bleeds, we can kill it".
What does that have to do with Christmas in Somalia? It seems the same guys that think our federal government has too much over reach, want them to be reaching out and meddling on other countries affairs all around the globe. Which is it, too much over reach, or not enough?
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Which is it, too much over reach, or not enough?
yes
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Which is it, too much over reach, or not enough?
No
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Which is it, too much over reach, or not enough?
Maybe.
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Which is it, too much over reach, or not enough?
Seems to be.